2009-2010 NBA Thread

[S2]

The end to the 2007 NFL season was pretty sweet,

As were the few months before and after it.

As for the NBA, this series is as good as done if the refs continue to allow Howard to literally knock guys out with his elbows while not allowing the Celtics to defend him. They've made him into a monster. If the refs don't allow him to physically manhandle any and everyone, this doesn't get past Game 6.

[Snatch Catch]

I saw no issue at all with the elbow that knocked Davis out.

[b_joseph]

As were the few months before and after it.

As for the NBA, this series is as good as done if the refs continue to allow Howard to literally knock guys out with his elbows while not allowing the Celtics to defend him. They've made him into a monster. If the refs don't allow him to physically manhandle any and everyone, this doesn't get past Game 6.

To be fair, the Celtics usually get away with a lot of physical stuff also.

Its not like they are whiter than white in the paint. If we both manage to advance, you best believe your guys will try to smack Gasol around.

[Snatch Catch]

To be fair, the Celtics usually get away with a lot of physical stuff also.

I understand the griping from C's fans because it sucks when it happens to you.

At the same time, Pierce is one of the craftiest dirty players in the league (a la Ginobli), and Garnett is as chippy as they come.

All the talk about Wallace "getting in Howard's head" was centered around him physically messing with him - the mental edge people were talking about was born of him at times crossing the line physically (sometimes getting fouls called on him, sometimes not).

It doesn't make any of it right, but trying to look at this from an objective viewpoint I don't really feel like the Celtics are somehow being jobbed here - it's the game they play, too, and it just so happens they were on the wrong end of it last night.

[NyQuil]

ESPN2 is rocking a LeBron headline. That's one was to get him a lot of haters.

[dabomb2045]

Howard isnt dirty. Those elbows are unintentional. Its reminds of stuff people said about Shaq thru most of his career. Yet Howard (and Shaq) basically get molested in the paint everytime they touch the ball.

[pjfan]

I understand the griping from C's fans because it sucks when it happens to you.

At the same time, Pierce is one of the craftiest dirty players in the league (a la Ginobli), and Garnett is as chippy as they come.

All the talk about Wallace "getting in Howard's head" was centered around him physically messing with him - the mental edge people were talking about was born of him at times crossing the line physically (sometimes getting fouls called on him, sometimes not).

It doesn't make any of it right, but trying to look at this from an objective viewpoint I don't really feel like the Celtics are somehow being jobbed here - it's the game they play, too, and it just so happens they were on the wrong end of it last night.

I think that's a fair assessment.

The most disheartening thing is that now that Howard has upped his game physically, the C's seem to be shying away. Garnett looks totally drained and has been awful most of the series.

We need Pierce and Rondo to step up big time tomorrow night. If Davis is out (and I assume he will be) we not only need Wallace to contribute in a big way (and that includes staying out of any drama and avoiding T's)

[Snatch Catch]

So Perkins had one of his Ts taken back and will play in Friday's game.

Good to see for C's fans, and you better believe Friday is going to be a WAR.

[Yankees13]

So Perkins had one of his Ts taken back and will play in Friday's game.

Good to see for C's fans, and you better believe Friday is going to be a WAR.

The NBA must be getting nervous.

This should be a great series the rest of the way, no matter how long it goes.

On another note, the news about LeBron, Wade, Johnson, and Bosh meeting to discuss FA is fascinating. I have this mental image of them and their advisers meeting in some backroom carving up the future of the NBA. Obviously, it won't be anything that dramatic. I defintely think they're trying to get a package deal somewhere.

[DRobertsonNYY]

Guess that means no Perk in Game 7. Cause you know he can't go a game without a T.

[Yankees13]

Guess that means no Perk in Game 7. Cause you know he can't go a game without a T.

The Magic need to do whatever they can to get him a T in Game 6, especially if it looks like they're going to force a Game 7. With Davis out, and Sheed hurting, the Celtics will have massive issues with Howard if Perkins is suspended.

[kan_t]

The Magic need to do whatever they can to get him a T in Game 6, especially if it looks like they're going to force a Game 7. With Davis out, and Sheed hurting, the Celtics will have massive issues with Howard if Perkins is suspended.

The Magic should just focus on win the game first.

[dabomb2045]

I thought LA was gonna run away w/this game up 16....but nice job by the Suns to get it back to 8 at the half.

They need something from their bench if they are going to win this game. Its why they won Games 3-4. Btw please stop fouling Derek Fisher when he "drives" to the basket. The guy is looking to draw a foul...not to actually finish a play. K thnx.

[b_joseph]

Still struggling a ton offensively....first half of the 3rd quarter is gonna be huge.

[DRobertsonNYY]

Shocker that Bennett Salvatore and Bob Delaney are reffing this game and shocker that the Lakers have a ton of FTs. I'm utterly shocked.

[b_joseph]

17 fta to 14 fta

what? 3 whole free throw attempts more...Shame on the refs! 13 fouls each and all of our starters with at least 2 fouls.

[DRobertsonNYY]

If you don't think a tightly called game favors the Lakers, then uhh, I don't know what to tell you. This is the Stern MO, send out his jobbers to a crucial Game 5 to make sure his teams makes it to the Finals.

[cyhughes22]

Yeah I tend to agree. If the Suns are going to beat them they're going to have to beat all 13 Lakers including the 1 in black and white.

[b_joseph]

So what you are saying is that a game called tightly for both teams is wrong because it helps the Lakers?

So you dont want a game that is called fairly for both squads? Cool. Lets hope the refs root for PHX in the 2nd half to make sure that its fair and all.

[YanksFan1992]

Oh what I would give for the Celtics to blow this series.

[dabomb2045]

Phoenix has the get the ball out of Kobe's hands in the final 2:40 of this game....and make Ron Artest beat them from the perimeter. Dude is 1-6 w/2 points tonight...0-2 from 3-pt range.

Dont leave Fisher open though....he's been money tonight.

[dabomb2045]

And thats why you make Ron Artest beat you. Two bricks in a row there...the second being a TERRIBLE shot.

[dabomb2045]

J-Rich!!! OMG. 3 secs left though. Alot of time for Kobe. Again...force him to give it up.

[b_joseph]

Am I allowed to cry? I havent been able to sit down for an hour.

[b_joseph]

Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Hell To The Mutha Effing Yeah

[dabomb2045]

Typical Lakers bullsh*t. Team always gets the lucky bounce. Phoenix defends the play perfectly and still gets beat.

[Philip Hughes Fan]

................! Played great defense on Kobe and that happens.

[dabomb2045]

................! Played great defense on Kobe and that happens.

Seriously. Only the Lakers would get lucky on a play like that and win. Nobody else.

[DrNick]

Artest saves himself from a serious ass beating from Kobe

[Philip Hughes Fan]

Well at least the rapist didn't get the game winner, and the Suns have to feel good they were able to fight back from that deficit in LA.

[b_joseph]

Typical Lakers bullsh*t. Team always gets the lucky bounce. Phoenix defends the play perfectly and still gets beat.

Richardson didnt hit a lucky shot to tie it?? You telling me he called that banker that was missing left and long? Come on now.

[dabomb2045]

Well at least the rapist didn't get the game winner, and the Suns have to feel good they were able to fight back from that deficit in LA.

It doesnt matter now. This was their chance to steal a game in LA. Even if they do get this to Game 7 (which I dont think they will)....they are def not winning.

[dabomb2045]

Richardson didnt hit a lucky shot to tie it??

They had FOUR wide open looks in that sequence. One of them should have went down. It would have been crap if it didnt.

[YanksFan1992]

And thats why you make Ron Artest beat you. Two bricks in a row there...the second being a TERRIBLE shot.

[Philip Hughes Fan]

It doesnt matter now. This was their chance to steal a game in LA. Even if they do get this to Game 7 (which I dont think they will)....they are def not winning.

I'd be shocked if they win the series of course, but I feel like there's at least a slim chance now. And since Bynum looks worse and worse, I think the Celtics or Magic have a chance.

[b_joseph]

They had FOUR wide open looks in that sequence. One of them should have went down. It would have been crap if it didnt.

Come on now, I know you dont like us but a lucky shot is a lucky shot regardless of what transpires before it.

They hit a lucky shot there and then we got lucky on the other end/

[YanksFan1992]

One thing we can say though, is that Steve Nash is one heck of a basketball player.

[dabomb2045]

Come on now, I know you dont like us but a lucky shot is a lucky shot regardless of what transpires before it.

They hit a lucky shot there and then we got lucky on the other end/

No they deserved to get 3 points on that possession because they got a bunch of wide open looks. If LA defended the play well and the Suns hit some miracle 3....I'd admit it but thats not what happened. Kobe airballs a 3 (how often does this happen? once a season?) and Artest won the lottery and happened to be in the right spot at the right time. 100% luck.

[DRobertsonNYY]

4 wide open shots is lucky?

haha

more Lakers luck, their recent history is full of it.

[dabomb2045]

One thing we can say though, is that Steve Nash is one heck of a basketball player.

Sadly, he will probably end up joining the ranks of Ewing/Malone/Stockton/Barkley as great players that dont have a ring when they retire. He deserves one so badly too. I feel awful for him right now.

[b_joseph]

No they deserved to get 3 points on that possession because they got a bunch of wide open looks. If LA defended the play well and the Suns hit some miracle 3....I'd admit it but thats not what happened. Kobe airballs a 3 (how often does this happen? once a season?) and Artest won the lottery and happened to be in the right spot at the right time. 100% luck.

Well Artest had 2 wide open looks on the other end...bad shots mind you but wide open looks.

Does he deserve the luck then? And if you watch Artest, he didnt quit on that play, he took the ball away from Rich who actually had position.

[dabomb2045]

Well Artest had 2 wide open looks on the other end...bad shots mind you but wide open looks.

Does he deserve the luck then?

No...when you take awful shots like that you dont deserve anything. Phil Jackson should have strangled him after that 3 point attempt.

When you run the play correctly, and get 3 straight wide open looks on the same possession....one of them should go down. There was nothing lucky about how the Suns ran that possession.

[dabomb2045]

Whatever....dont expect me to sit here kissing Laker ass. Not doing it. Watch ESPN if you wanna see a Lakers lovefest.

[b_joseph]

I dont need no ass kissing but come on, the hatred is far too strong.

Late EDIT to continue my trend: 11 down and 5 to go

[dabomb2045]

The hatred is what it is....its never gonna change. In fact, it will only get more intense when they pull wins like this out of their ass.

I think this game might have just tilted me towards the Boston side for the Finals if it is Celtics-Lakers. Sigh.

[YanksFan1992]

I think this game might have just tilted me towards the Boston side for the Finals if it is Celtics-Lakers. Sigh.

Don't talk like that. Magic in 7.

[dabomb2045]

Don't talk like that. Magic in 7.

Of course this is what I'm hoping for

[BroadwayBomber55]

Oh come on.

Sure, the Phoenix Suns play perfect defense on that last play and still got beat.

BUT that wasn't the only thing that cost Steve Nash and the Suns the game: making free throws was another thing.

Both the Lakers and Suns made 20 FTs, but the Suns had six more attempts from the charity stripe than the Lakers 29-23. Those were six crucial misses.

Nash, normally a pretty good foul shooter, made 3 for 5.

[BroadwayBomber55]

One thing we can say though, is that Steve Nash is one heck of a basketball player.

Not only he can run and dish, he can shoot lights out.

Steve Nash's jumpers were lethal inside those two minutes.

However, his free throw shooting cost him tonight.

[cyhughes22]

Am I crazy or did Kobe have a foot out of bounds?