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    May 17, 2009 Home vs. Minnesota: Pregame/Lineups

    http://yankees.lhblogs.com/ says:

    "Jeter SS
    Damon LF
    Texeira 1B
    Rodriguez 3B
    Matsui DH
    Swisher RF
    Cabrera CF
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    Re: May 17, 2009 Home vs. Minnesota: Pregame/Lineups

    This not look good...
    On the other hand, you have different fingers.


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    why is cash getting the start? where is cisco?

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    Curious to see the reasoning behind Cano getting the day off and not Swish...
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    Re: May 17, 2009 Home vs. Minnesota: Pregame/Lineups

    Wow. I would have bet the farm Swish would have had the day off. I also expected Arod to DH and melky and Gardner to both play.

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    We will win today.

    I think Swisher should've gotten the day off before Cano, but both are struggling right now. I wonder why Cash is starting.

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    Re: May 17, 2009 Home vs. Minnesota: Pregame/Lineups

    Quote Originally Posted by dadrumma
    why is cash getting the start? where is cisco?
    I was wondering the same thing

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    Re: May 17, 2009 Home vs. Minnesota: Pregame/Lineups

    I knew Girardi was going to do this with Cervelli.
    Calmer than you are.

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    Re: May 17, 2009 Home vs. Minnesota: Pregame/Lineups

    wow...play Cervelli, play Cano, bench Swisher.

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    Re: May 17, 2009 Home vs. Minnesota: Pregame/Lineups

    Quote Originally Posted by Kathordine
    wow...play Cervelli, play Cano, bench Swisher.
    How do you know Cano doesn't need a day of? Swisher will get one in the next couple of days

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    let's win this series...
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    Total garbage lineup by Girardi......regardless of the outcome today. No, Cano doesn't need a rest at game 36. Cervelli is better than Cash and should be starting. Swisher needs to sit.

    Still lefties crush Slowey, so I am optimistic.

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    Re: May 17, 2009 Home vs. Minnesota: Pregame/Lineups

    Quote Originally Posted by Shanghai Bob
    Total garbage lineup by Girardi......regardless of the outcome today. No, Cano doesn't need a rest at game 36. Cervelli is better than Cash and should be starting. Swisher needs to sit.

    Still lefties crush Slowey, so I am optimistic.
    Seriously, howdo you know Cano doesn't need a day off? Oh yeah, you don't

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    It really cracks me up that people are clamoring for Gardner over Swisher. And Cervelli has filled in admirably since Molina went down but let's face it, he's not the second coming of Johnny Bench. If we're really that dependent on his 61 OPS+ then we're in big trouble.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hatfieldms
    Seriously, howdo you know Cano doesn't need a day off? Oh yeah, you don't
    I haven't missed a day at work for six months. Ripken played 2632 games in a row. Girardi said he isn't injured. Oh, that's right I do.

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    Re: May 17, 2009 Home vs. Minnesota: Pregame/Lineups

    Quote Originally Posted by hatfieldms
    Seriously, howdo you know Cano doesn't need a day off? Oh yeah, you don't
    Because he hasn't been completely horrendous like Swisher has? I don't get the need to alternate between sitting starters every other game when your team is playing well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NelsonMuntz
    It really cracks me up that people are clamoring for Gardner over Swisher. And Cervelli has filled in admirably since Molina went down but let's face it, he's not the second coming of Johnny Bench. If we're really that dependent on his 61 OPS+ then we're in big trouble.
    Nobody is saying to bench Swisher permanently in favor of Gardner. Everyone knows Cervelli and Cash are 3rd and 4th string starters.

    BUT that is not the point. The manager needs to show logic and consistency in his lineups. Girardi is not showing either.

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    Re: May 17, 2009 Home vs. Minnesota: Pregame/Lineups

    Quote Originally Posted by Shanghai Bob
    Nobody is saying to bench Swisher permanently in favor of Gardner. Everyone knows Cervelli and Cash are 3rd and 4th string starters.

    BUT that is not the point. The manager needs to show logic and consistency in his lineups. Girardi is not showing either.
    I'm not sure that "consistency" in a lineup really amounts to a hill of beans at the end of the day, but even if we accept the premise that it matters, how would benching the starting RF'er in favor of the 4th/5th outfielder show "logic and consistency"?
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    Re: May 17, 2009 Home vs. Minnesota: Pregame/Lineups

    Quote Originally Posted by Shanghai Bob
    I haven't missed a day at work for six months. Ripken played 2632 games in a row. Girardi said he isn't injured. Oh, that's right I do.
    Really? You have worked 7 days a week for the past six months? I doubt that. And since Ripken did it I guess everyone else should. With your logic shouldn't everybody be playing everyday? Even swisher?

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    Re: May 17, 2009 Home vs. Minnesota: Pregame/Lineups

    apparently girardi isn't allowed to keep his starters fresh with some days off here and there.

    CANO hasn't had a day off ALL YEAR people.

    And cervelli is a catcher, the most physically demanding position in baseball. he's going to need some days too...


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    Re: May 17, 2009 Home vs. Minnesota: Pregame/Lineups

    Quote Originally Posted by justinvarnes
    Curious to see the reasoning behind Cano getting the day off and not Swish...
    I don't think he's had a day off all year. And the Yanks are in the middle of there 45 games in 47 days stretch aren't they?

    I wouldn't be surprised to see A-rod get a day off or at least DH sometime this week as well as Tex & Swisher.
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    Re: May 17, 2009 Home vs. Minnesota: Pregame/Lineups

    Quote Originally Posted by JavyVazquezIsSick
    I knew Girardi was going to do this with Cervelli.
    what, sit a 23 year old AA catcher a day game after a night game? Guess what Russel Martin has the day off toady, may the Dodgers should fire Torre.
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    Re: May 17, 2009 Home vs. Minnesota: Pregame/Lineups

    Quote Originally Posted by hatfieldms
    Really? You have worked 7 days a week for the past six months? I doubt that.
    ya know, i never thought of this this way... Baseball players don't really have weekends.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NelsonMuntz
    I'm not sure that "consistency" in a lineup really amounts to a hill of beans at the end of the day, but even if we accept the premise that it matters, how would benching the starting RF'er in favor of the 4th/5th outfielder show "logic and consistency"?
    Consistency in the lineup means a whole lot. For much of this decade under Torre we had the most productive lineup in the Majors. And barring injuries it stayed the same most of the time. Under Girardi it pretty never stays the same regardless of injuries.

    I realize you REALLY like Swisher, but looking at him May numbers (.460 OPS, 1 hit in the last five games), do you not believe he needs just a day off? Again, nobody is saying he should cede the RF job to Gardner.

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    Re: May 17, 2009 Home vs. Minnesota: Pregame/Lineups

    Quote Originally Posted by delv
    ya know, i never thought of this this way... Baseball players don't really have weekends.
    But they do get a pretty long vacation from sometime in October to about mid-February. All in all, I'd give up my Spring/Summer weekends for that.
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    Re: May 17, 2009 Home vs. Minnesota: Pregame/Lineups

    Quote Originally Posted by Shanghai Bob
    Consistency in the lineup means a whole lot. For much of this decade under Torre we had the most productive lineup in the Majors. And barring injuries it stayed the same most of the time. Under Girardi it pretty never stays the same regardless of injuries.

    I realize you REALLY like Swisher, but looking at him May numbers (.460 OPS, 1 hit in the last five games), do you not believe he needs just a day off? Again, nobody is saying he should cede the RF job to Gardner.
    Sure Swisher could use a day off. Probably get one tomorrow or the next day.
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    Re: May 17, 2009 Home vs. Minnesota: Pregame/Lineups

    Quote Originally Posted by Yankee Tripper
    what, sit a 23 year old AA catcher a day game after a night game? Guess what Russel Martin has the day off toady, may the Dodgers should fire Torre.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yankee Tripper
    But they do get a pretty long vacation from sometime in October to about mid-February. All in all, I'd give up my Spring/Summer weekends for that.
    yeah, thought about that. but so do teachers.
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    Re: May 17, 2009 Home vs. Minnesota: Pregame/Lineups

    Quote Originally Posted by Shanghai Bob
    Consistency in the lineup means a whole lot. For much of this decade under Torre we had the most productive lineup in the Majors. And barring injuries it stayed the same most of the time. Under Girardi it pretty never stays the same regardless of injuries.

    I realize you REALLY like Swisher, but looking at him May numbers (.460 OPS, 1 hit in the last five games), do you not believe he needs just a day off? Again, nobody is saying he should cede the RF job to Gardner.
    You haven't had a day off in 6 months, why would Swisher need one off?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yankee Tripper
    what, sit a 23 year old AA catcher a day game after a night game? Guess what Russel Martin has the day off toady, may the Dodgers should fire Torre.
    What night game? Yesterday was a day game. Why would you start Cash today?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hatfieldms
    You haven't had a day off in 6 months, why would Swisher need one off?
    I think you need a day off...

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    Re: May 17, 2009 Home vs. Minnesota: Pregame/Lineups

    Quote Originally Posted by Shanghai Bob
    What night game? Yesterday was a day game. Why would you start Cash today?
    catchers can't play everyday. you make it sound like Cevelli had the offensive ability of a Jorge Posada... He doesn't, it's not as big of a deal as some people are making it out to be. The don't have many days off coming up, so it makes sense to rest guys so they can play over the long stretch.


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    Re: May 17, 2009 Home vs. Minnesota: Pregame/Lineups

    Quote Originally Posted by Shanghai Bob
    I think you need a day off...
    I'm just trying to follow your logic here. As ridiculous as it is

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    Re: May 17, 2009 Home vs. Minnesota: Pregame/Lineups

    Quote Originally Posted by Shanghai Bob
    What night game? Yesterday was a day game. Why would you start Cash today?
    Forgot yesterday was a day game. Anyway Cervelli & Cash are the Yanks #3, #4 catchers, I expect them to splitting time 60/40 until one of Po/Mo returns.
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    I just realized why Cano got the day off today. He's batting exactly .300. Joe doesn't want him to go below that for psychological reasons. IMO, completely justified. great decision.
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    I think Girardi is taking the Spring Training approach with these guys and givign them each a chance to battle for the 3rd string spot (the guy who stays up here when Jorge comes back but before Molina comes back). Makes sense to me. Split there appearances until one "wins" the spot.

    They could deal Molina if they know they have a solid backup.

    While it may seem obvious that Cervelli is that, it is an extremely SSS compared to his minor league #'s. Cash isn't much better #'s-wise, of course, but still. It's not like this approach is insane or even obtuse.
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    Re: May 17, 2009 Home vs. Minnesota: Pregame/Lineups

    Quote Originally Posted by hatfieldms
    I'm just trying to follow your logic here. As ridiculous as it is
    I doubt that you could follow my (or anyone's) logic. But no point in arguing. I just put you on ignore instead boring the board with the back and forth...

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    Re: May 17, 2009 Home vs. Minnesota: Pregame/Lineups

    Game is on TBS today.

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    I see they are grooming Pena to play 3rd and now 2nd.
    This means he is the Yankees UI for the foreseeable future.
    Making him more valuable to the team is a good move.

    Does this spell the end of Commander Cody?

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    Re: May 17, 2009 Home vs. Minnesota: Pregame/Lineups

    Quote Originally Posted by Shanghai Bob
    I doubt that you could follow my (or anyone's) logic. But no point in arguing. I just put you on ignore instead boring the board with the back and forth...
    So instead of trying to explain your logic you just put me on ignore? That sounds about right

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    My 2 cents, Girardi is an ape. Yes, I think Cervelli and Cano should be in the lineup, but this is just one of the millions of the reason that Joe sucks. The guys a f-cking dumbass, he brought our worst RP in in a one run game yesterday. I've seriously completely given up on him. I now always expect him to make the dumb decision, and he never lets me down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gotnoname19
    My 2 cents, Girardi is an ape. Yes, I think Cervelli and Cano should be in the lineup, but this is just one of the millions of the reason that Joe sucks. The guys a f-cking dumbass, he brought our worst RP in in a one run game yesterday. I've seriously completely given up on him. I now always expect him to make the dumb decision, and he never lets me down.

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    Re: May 17, 2009 Home vs. Minnesota: Pregame/Lineups

    Quote Originally Posted by gotnoname19
    My 2 cents, Girardi is an ape. Yes, I think Cervelli and Cano should be in the lineup, but this is just one of the millions of the reason that Joe sucks. The guys a f-cking dumbass, he brought our worst RP in in a one run game yesterday. I've seriously completely given up on him. I now always expect him to make the dumb decision, and he never lets me down.
    over/under on this poster's age? I'll set it at 17, make things interesting...


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    Re: May 17, 2009 Home vs. Minnesota: Pregame/Lineups

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Coffee
    How could Pena have had 3 at-bats against Slowey from 2004-2008 considering Pena wasn't in MLB then?

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    Re: May 17, 2009 Home vs. Minnesota: Pregame/Lineups

    Quote Originally Posted by gotnoname19
    My 2 cents, Girardi is an ape. Yes, I think Cervelli and Cano should be in the lineup, but this is just one of the millions of the reason that Joe sucks. The guys a f-cking dumbass, he brought our worst RP in in a one run game yesterday. I've seriously completely given up on him. I now always expect him to make the dumb decision, and he never lets me down.

    This oughta go over well....

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    Re: May 17, 2009 Home vs. Minnesota: Pregame/Lineups

    Quote Originally Posted by smckdwn989
    over/under on this poster's age? I'll set it at 17, make things interesting...
    29 year old Redsox fan who acts like 10 and will eventually move out of his parents house at 38.
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    What, are you not allowed to dislike the manager on this forum?

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    Quote Originally Posted by smckdwn989
    over/under on this poster's age? I'll set it at 17, make things interesting...
    28 Thanks.

    smckdwn989, is your name inspired by WWE wrestling? Who's 17?

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