Is the new yankee stadium a "launching pad?"

[jbauer2485]

I've heard it mentioned several times by announcers, ESPN, and now Pete Abe that the new stadium is a hitter's park because of all the homeruns we have seen thus far.

Considering it has the same dimensions and is walking distance away from the old stadium, could it have really changed the dynamics of the stadium that much? I don't think so, but I was curious to see what other thoughts were.

[gdn]

Can we wait a week or a season before we have to answer this?

[jbauer2485]

Oh look, the thread police. Do we need to make IL III now?

[gdn]

Oh look, the thread police. Do we need to make IL III now?

Uh. I didn't question your starting a thread. I actually responded. In other words, I said, it's too freakin' early to tell, so I don't know.

[JohnnyEllis]

No, but Damaso Marte is sometimes.

[1936-1939JoeNLou]

I've heard it mentioned several times by announcers, ESPN, and now Pete Abe that the new stadium is a hitter's park because of all the homeruns we have seen thus far.

Considering it has the same dimensions and is walking distance away from the old stadium, could it have really changed the dynamics of the stadium that much? I don't think so, but I was curious to see what other thoughts were.

Not the same.

The gaps are smaller. The 318, 399, 408, 314 markers are actually those distances. Just that in between them, it is smaller. The markers are conveniently placed in different areas, as to make it seem similar. Now, I read this on a respected message board so I really cant prove it. But it sure seems that way.

I haven't seen to many hit to left/left-center/center though. So it may just be right field.

[jbauer2485]

Uh. I didn't question your starting a thread. I actually responded. In other words, I said, it's too freakin' early to tell, so I don't know.

Ok, my apologies then.

Of course no one knows the answer yet, but would it really make that much of a difference?

[jbauer2485]

Not the same.

The gaps are smaller. The 318, 399, 408, 314 markers are actually those distances. Just that in between them, it is smaller. The markers are conveniently placed in different areas, as to make it seem similar. Now, I read this on a respected message board so I really cant prove it. But it sure seems that way.

I haven't seen to many hit to left/left-center/center though. So it may just be right field.

Hmm, interesting. I've heard many times already that the dimensions are exactly the same.

[gdn]

Ok, my apologies then.

Of course no one knows the answer yet, but would it really make that much of a difference?

It's hard to say without actually having played in both stadia, but it does seem to be slightly different. Again, it's too early to tell.

[PirateChief]

Pitchers with ................ location are launching pads. So we had:

Joba (no location)
Reyes (no location)
Relief pitching on the Indans (no location)

there you go

[Dr. Gonzo]

Hmm, interesting. I've heard many times already that the dimensions are exactly the same.

they are accept the curve of the old ballpark from foul pole to foul pole it is gone, it is more straight lines now to accomadate seating.

RAB showed it.

http://riveraveblues.com/2009/04/ant...rs-park-10299/

[DiMaggio5CF]

It sure seems like it.

[1936-1939JoeNLou]

they are accept the curve of the old ballpark from foul pole to foul pole it is gone, it is more straight lines now to accomadate seating.

RAB showed it.

http://riveraveblues.com/2009/04/ant...rs-park-10299/

Thanks!

This was exactly what I meant. The Yankees can shove this same dimension BS up theirs, cause they cant fool me.

Bandbox.

[THEBOSS84]

I think when you combine Anthony Reyes and good hitters, you get homers.

[cupcollector99]

Too early to tell

[gdn]

Too early to tell

THREAD NAZI!!!one1!!1

[Pinstripedbass]

I can't believe no one has picked up on this yet, but it could be that the wind currents have changed at the new stadium. The upper deck now has an open back covered by a screen instead of the wall at OYS. The concourses are now open as well. Wind blowing in off the river now gets into the stadium. That could be causing different wind patterns at NYS and helping the ball to travel.

I expect NYS to be a launching pad and wouldn't be surprised to see some more home runs flying out to left and left-center.

[teknetic]

18 homers in 4 games counting the two exhibition games against the Cubs.

[False1]

I can't believe no one has picked up on this yet, but it could be that the wind currents have changed at the new stadium. The upper deck now has an open back covered by a screen instead of the wall at OYS. The concourses are now open as well. Wind blowing in off the river now gets into the stadium. That could be causing different wind patterns at NYS and helping the ball to travel.

I expect NYS to be a launching pad and wouldn't be surprised to see some more home runs flying out to left and left-center.

Yep, and smaller gaps and less foul territory. Should be more HR this year. I could see A-Rod taking advantage of the fact that the gaps are in a few feet. I couldn't find his hit chart, but thought he had a bunch of near-misses caught between the markers against the wall last year.

[Soriambi]

Too early to say.

[yankeeman61]

No, but Damaso Marte is sometimes.

This made me LOL....out loud

[JL25and3]

I can't believe no one has picked up on this yet, but it could be that the wind currents have changed at the new stadium. The upper deck now has an open back covered by a screen instead of the wall at OYS. The concourses are now open as well. Wind blowing in off the river now gets into the stadium. That could be causing different wind patterns at NYS and helping the ball to travel.

I expect NYS to be a launching pad and wouldn't be surprised to see some more home runs flying out to left and left-center.

Absolutely right. Never mind the dimensions, the field is now open to the winds in a way it never was before.

When they tear down the old stadium, the difference might be even greater.

[Bub]

Absolutely right. Never mind the dimensions, the field is now open to the winds in a way it never was before.

When they tear down the old stadium, the difference might be even greater.

Yup. Surrounding buildings are different too, and we have no idea what the effect will be when real hot temps arrive. Bottom line is we won't know until probably the end of July exactly what we have here.

[b_joseph]

No..the guys who hit Home runs are guys that hit home runs to those areas in the other stadium.

When Gardner starts knocking them over the fence, then maybe we can start to wonder about that.

[bigjf]

I don't think it's any more a "launching pad" than the old stadium. All those homers today flew out to RF. That's by design. Balls to LF, on the other hand, still seem to stay in the park. Now, that's a very early estimation on my part, but those homers today were mostly legit (I didn't see Jeter's, but Cano's and Tex's certainly were).

[delv]

Absolutely right. Never mind the dimensions, the field is now open to the winds in a way it never was before.

When they tear down the old stadium, the difference might be even greater.

great point. this thread may be the most consistently intelligent conversation on this whole website.

[yankee82093]

I don't think it's any more a "launching pad" than the old stadium. All those homers today flew out to RF. That's by design. Balls to LF, on the other hand, still seem to stay in the park. Now, that's a very early estimation on my part, but those homers today were mostly legit (I didn't see Jeter's, but Cano's and Tex's certainly were).

Cano's, Tex's, and Melky's were all legit and made contact with the upper deck. Damon's was definitely a cheapie, and Jeter's I don't know. Jeter didn't exactly get all of it but it did land a couple rows back.

[mr.roy]

No, but Damaso Marte is sometimes.

That's cold blooded!

[ArodMVP217]

I can't believe no one has picked up on this yet, but it could be that the wind currents have changed at the new stadium. The upper deck now has an open back covered by a screen instead of the wall at OYS. The concourses are now open as well. Wind blowing in off the river now gets into the stadium. That could be causing different wind patterns at NYS and helping the ball to travel.

I expect NYS to be a launching pad and wouldn't be surprised to see some more home runs flying out to left and left-center.

and the oldYS was taller

[hongchihkuo]

too early to call. there's been some warmer weather recently. plenty of terrible pitching. let's see how wang does today. he usually doesn't give up HRs, but it really depends on having good control and keeping pitches down and working both sides of the plate. wang has to be able to pitch inside effectively.

[NYYDragoon]

I think when you combine Anthony Reyes and good hitters, you get homers.

Yup.

I see no reason why it would be a launching pad. Unless there's something going on with natural and/or induced air currents...

[BBombers85]

Um.... YES

[ThunderFan]

They have to do something about this. Every fly ball is a homer.

[dont_ya_know24]

1.3 billion? WTF are they gonna do?

[teknetic]

The timing of this is awesome.

[NYYDragoon]

My opinion as an aero guy:

There's no obvious reason why the new Stadium is doing anything funky with the air currents. For all we know it could be seasonal, not inherent in the design.

[Rocketbooster]

Were the HRs hit well struck or were they basically fly balls?

If the latter, the Yankees can not have this for a team that is built on pitching. I'm being serious - can they do anything to fix this?

[wall-e]

My opinion as an aero guy:

There's no obvious reason why the new Stadium is doing anything funky with the air currents. For all we know it could be seasonal, not inherent in the design.

Thursday- 3 HR
Friday- 6 HR
Saturday- 4 HR thus far

Exhibition:
Saturday- 6 HR

[wall-e]

Last four games at NYS total (still not finished on the fourth game): 19. Please. It's a bandbox. Seasonal wind currents? How about a strait, short porch wall that is 5-10 feet shorter than OYS.

[R.V.47]

Were the HRs hit well struck or were they basically fly balls?

If the latter, the Yankees can not have this for a team that is built on pitching. I'm being serious - can they do anything to fix this?

The Choo homer today didnt seem that well hit and there were some balls hit to the wall that didnt seem that well hit either.

No the yanks really cant do a lot about this. In right field they would have to take out a bunch of pretty good seats to push the wall back. I doubt they do that.

[R.V.47]

Last four games at NYS total (still not finished on the fourth game): 19. Please. It's a bandbox. Seasonal wind currents? How about a strait, short porch wall that is 5-10 feet shorter than OYS.

Thats the issue right there. At the old stadium it was 314 right down the line but it then curves out to 385. That wall is now straight probably because they wanted the manual scoreboard and seats in that area.

[Spiker101]

If you just saw Sizemore's double off the wall to left-center any doubt about this being an extreme hitters park would vanish. That was just ridiculous.

[NYYDragoon]

Thursday- 3 HR
Friday- 6 HR
Saturday- 4 HR thus far

Exhibition:
Saturday- 6 HR

Let's see what happens against pitchers who aren't throwing meatballs.

[jeterdaman]

I'm sure this stadium was built thinking how many homeruns we're going to hit in it. Unfortunately, they didn't realize we would be playing against an opponent.

[jeterdaman]

I think they need to be remeasured. Just because it says 400, are we to just assume it is that far?

[gdn]

I think maybe the next time the Yankees go on the road someone needs to move those fences back a bit.

[R.V.47]

I think maybe the next time the Yankees go on the road someone needs to move those fences back a bit.

The people who have those seats right on the right field wall will be disapointed but they will be taking one for the team.

[wall-e]

Let's see what happens against pitchers who aren't throwing meatballs.

You've seen these balls man. Fly outs have not only end up to be home runs, but also doubles. It's insane. This is the most hitter friendly park I've ever seen.

OYS was beloved for its pitcher friendly dimensions. RYS was satisfactory with neutral dimensions. NYS will be hated for cheap, unfair, hitter friendly dimensions. It takes away the mystique of a home run, and destroys 300 million dollars worth of pitching.

[jeterdaman]

I think maybe the next time the Yankees go on the road someone needs to move those fences back a bit.

But keep the measurements on the fences the same. If I remember correctly, there was an issue with that when the Nationals came back to Dc and were playing in RFK. Some walls said 415, but it was measured and it was closer to 435.

[NYYDragoon]

You've seen these balls man. Fly outs have not only end up to be home runs, but also doubles. It's insane. This is the most hitter friendly park I've ever seen.

Again, they've been hit off of hitter friendly pitchers. When Mo starts giving up HRs, then we'll know something's wrong. But until then, I don't think we've seen an accurate sample size to draw conclusions.