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    What if A-Rod is our Manny?

    You know how in Boston it became"Manny being Manny" whenever he did something that made Boston fans scratch their heads. What it Yankee fans have that with A-Rod? I think that we can all agree that A-Rod has done many things that make us scratch their heads and say"huh" on more than once.

    Do we have our own case of "A-Rod Being A-Rod"?
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    afraid so and for several more years given his salary

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    Oh good, ANOTHER A-Rod thread.

    And no, we won't have A-Rod being A-Rod because A-Rod's head scratchers are never going to be as funny as Manny diving to cut off the throw from CF, wearing MP3 sunglasses and dropping easy flies, going into the scoreboard for no apparent reason, or using the term Mannywood.

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    Wouldn't we have won a few championships with him if he was OUR Manny?
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    Re: What if A-Rod is our Manny?

    Please, let the season begin so we can put an end to threads like this one.

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    Another day another A-Rod thread.
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    Re: What if A-Rod is our Manny?

    Quote Originally Posted by yankeegeek
    You know how in Boston it became"Manny being Manny" whenever he did something that made Boston fans scratch their heads. What it Yankee fans have that with A-Rod? I think that we can all agree that A-Rod has done many things that make us scratch their heads and say"huh" on more than once.

    Do we have our own case of "A-Rod Being A-Rod"?

    Doubt it.
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    Arod hasn't sat out on his team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NYYDragoon
    Arod hasn't sat out on his team.
    Exactly. Call me when he fakes an injury to force a trade so he can try and get himself a bigger contract.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ericns1
    afraid so and for several more years given his salary
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    Quote Originally Posted by bcom33
    Wouldn't we have won a few championships with him if he was OUR Manny?
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    Re: What if A-Rod is our Manny?

    That means we can have two WS titles in the next few years? I take it.

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    Please guys stop using the phrase A-Rod being A-rod its "Thats Alex" as the clubhouse says

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    If it means A-rod putting the fear of god into the opposing team everytime he steps into the batters box, I'll take it. Along with Mannys WSMVP.

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    jeez we got some clueless fans...
    Hope this is locked soon... Get over it ... this team is not the same without A-ROD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



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    Re: What if A-Rod is our Manny?

    Manny talked too much garbage, and didn't want to play. Alex is actually hurt and gets legitimately pissed when the Yankees lose. I don't think it's much of a comparable situation.

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    Re: What if A-Rod is our Manny?

    I don't think there's any "if" involved. Unfortunately, he is our Manny on the behavioral side of things and not performance-wise.


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    Re: What if A-Rod is our Manny?

    Quote Originally Posted by Retire21
    I don't think there's any "if" involved. Unfortunately, he is our Manny on the behavioral side of things and not performance-wise.
    I understand you don't love A-rod, but this is way off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeterForPresident
    Exactly. Call me when he fakes an injury to force a trade so he can try and get himself a bigger contract.
    agreed...i'm not a huge Alex fan, but i agree the comparison in the context of selfishness and teamsmanship is a bit of a stretch. Arod's not a cancer, maybe just a bad sunburn.
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    Re: What if A-Rod is our Manny?

    Quote Originally Posted by THEBOSS84
    I understand you don't love A-rod, but this is way off.
    Okay, to be fair: October performance.


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    Manny being Manny got Boston two World Series Championships. Sign me up!
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    Re: What if A-Rod is our Manny?

    As much I dislike them both, I can honestly say that- if I had to choose- I would rather have Manny on the team than Alex- both going forward as well as from 2004-2008. I think it is extremely likely this team would have won something other than 2004 infamy with Manny on the team. Granted, I am saying this with the results of October 2004-2007 in hindsight and that is probably not fair, but if you could go back and take Manny off irrevocable waivers in 2003 and pass on the Alex trade in Feb. 2004, would you do it?

    That is not to say I hold Alex solely responsible for the teams' failures in the playoffs from 2004-2007, but considering Alex's position in the batting order and his weak performances in that position, I think it is fairly reasonable to say that Manny would have performed better in those situations and maybe would have helped carry us to more titles. And I can't stand the guy (Manny)- but there you have it.


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    i woke up this morning and thought "i really hope someone opens another a-rod thread, i don't feel we have enough places to discuss our third baseman".
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    A-Rod is the perfect teammate that you don't want to go to the bar with.

    I don't even want Manny on the team.

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    Re: What if A-Rod is our Manny?

    Quote Originally Posted by Retire21
    As much I dislike them both, I can honestly say that- if I had to choose- I would rather have Manny on the team than Alex- both going forward as well as from 2004-2008. I think it is extremely likely this team would have won something other than 2004 infamy with Manny on the team. Granted, I am saying this with the results of October 2004-2007 in hindsight and that is probably not fair, but if you could go back and take Manny off irrevocable waivers in 2003 and pass on the Alex trade in Feb. 2004, would you do it?

    That is not to say I hold Alex solely responsible for the teams' failures in the playoffs from 2004-2007, but considering Alex's position in the batting order and his weak performances in that position, I think it is fairly reasonable to say that Manny would have performed better in those situations and maybe would have helped carry us to more titles. And I can't stand the guy (Manny)- but there you have it.

    Personally, I think we would have been better off with Tony Womack.


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    Quote Originally Posted by grizy
    A-Rod is the perfect teammate that you don't want to go to the bar with.

    I don't even want Manny on the team.
    Exactly. I'm happy the team has some chemistry with guys like CC, Joba, Swish and Bruney, but A-Rod is far from detrimental to the team. Anyone who compares him to Manny is delusional.
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    a-rod makes my balls hurt
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    Why is that everyone with a mildly amusing post think that it's worthy of a entirely new thread?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheffield
    Why is that everyone with a mildly amusing post think that it's worthy of a entirely new thread?
    Interesting question - probably should be a thread....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheffield
    Why is that everyone with a mildly amusing post think that it's worthy of a entirely new thread?
    Because all the A-Rod detractors feel that they're the brilliant mind that thinks scott brosius is better than alex rodriguez.
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    A-Rod hasn't taken a leak in the green monster yet...

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    Compared to this guy A-Rod might as well be Barack Obama... yet if this guy were ever to come back to life, there would be billions of people lining up to pick his brains.

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    Re: What if A-Rod is our Manny?

    What if their Manny is our A-rod?


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    What if Manny is A-Rod?
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    Another Manny thread! Joy.

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    Who calls their rod manny?!

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    Re: What if A-Rod is our Manny?

    Quote Originally Posted by grizy


    Compared to this guy A-Rod might as well be Barack Obama... yet if this guy were ever to come back to life, there would be billions of people lining up to pick his brains.
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    Re: What if A-Rod is our Manny?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Mxylsplk
    Interesting question - probably should be a thread....
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    Re: What if A-Rod is our Manny?

    Quote Originally Posted by grizy
    Compared to this guy A-Rod might as well be Barack Obama... yet if this guy were ever to come back to life, there would be billions of people lining up to pick his brains.
    I don't get it...

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    Re: What if A-Rod is our Manny?

    This thread strikes me as ultimately derived from a desire to have Manny-like nonsenes occur to the Yankees for publicity and comic-relief. Basically, the thread-maker is jealous of the attention that Manny got while w/ the Sox and wants that kind of thing for the Yankees.

    A suggestion: if you want drama and humor, watch a sitcom.

    The media has created this nonsensical equation of the baseball season with narrative. That "narrative" is not reflective of reality and is concocted to sell. Get over it and realize that these are actually just a bunch of real-life dudes playing a sport.
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    wow. got kinda riled up there. lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by BBombers85
    Who calls their rod manny?!
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    If only we had him back! With the pitching we've got this year ...

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    I don't think A-Rod and Manny have that much in common. I don't think there is any significant overlap between the specific list of negative attributes commonly associated with each of the two players. (For example, as has been said above, A-Rod has never quit on his team.)

    However, I do think there is a case to be made that "A-Rod is our Manny," in this respect. For both players, there is a sizeable portion of the fan base, along with key members of the organization and even teammates, who simply don't care for the player as an individual, but do their best to overlook everything they dislike about him because of the numbers he can put up on the field.

    My sense is that there is a much larger contingent in the New York fan base that's willing to say "screw it, even though he's a great player, I wish this guy wasn't on our team" than there was in Boston. And a much, MUCH smaller contingent in New York who are enthusiastic fans of A-Rod as an individual, as opposed to the huge following Manny had in Boston right up until the people who tell Red Sox Nation what to think changed their story about their star player. Also, it should be pointed out that the Boston media defended and coddled Manny until the last few months of his time in Boston, whereas the New York media has been carving A-Rod up since day one.

    But from an organizational perspective, I think the teams are in the same position. IMHO, the Yankees front office would jump if they had a chance to rid themselves of A-Rod and his contract at this point, just as the Red Sox tried to get rid of Manny just about every year since the new ownership came in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sweet_lou_14
    I don't think A-Rod and Manny have that much in common. I don't think there is any significant overlap between the specific list of negative attributes commonly associated with each of the two players. (For example, as has been said above, A-Rod has never quit on his team.)

    However, I do think there is a case to be made that "A-Rod is our Manny," in this respect. For both players, there is a sizeable portion of the fan base, along with key members of the organization and even teammates, who simply don't care for the player as an individual, but do their best to overlook everything they dislike about him because of the numbers he can put up on the field.

    My sense is that there is a much larger contingent in the New York fan base that's willing to say "screw it, even though he's a great player, I wish this guy wasn't on our team" than there was in Boston. And a much, MUCH smaller contingent in New York who are enthusiastic fans of A-Rod as an individual, as opposed to the huge following Manny had in Boston right up until the people who tell Red Sox Nation what to think changed their story about their star player. Also, it should be pointed out that the Boston media defended and coddled Manny until the last few months of his time in Boston, whereas the New York media has been carving A-Rod up since day one.

    But from an organizational perspective, I think the teams are in the same position. IMHO, the Yankees front office would jump if they had a chance to rid themselves of A-Rod and his contract at this point, just as the Red Sox tried to get rid of Manny just about every year since the new ownership came in.

    I really can't agree with the premise of the post. First, I think this is a little dramatic, at least for Alex. I don't believe anything I read in the media in regards to Alex and his relationship with his teammates because they simply have no motivation for revealing the truth - his teammates basically like him, as weird as they may think he is. Of course maybe a few people dislike Alex, but then, there is no person in the world that is liked by everyone. I won't get into the organization's feelings about Alex because, again,. we are getting our info from an unreliable media that has an agenda with regards to this player.

    there is a sizeable portion of the fan base, along with key members of the organization and even teammates, who simply don't care for the player as an individual, but do their best to overlook everything they dislike about him because of the numbers he can put up on the field.


    Also, if the Yankees would want to dump Alex, it would basically be because of the contract. The Red Sox wanted to dump Manny because he was truly becoming a problem ON the field - there is a big difference.
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    Re: What if A-Rod is our Manny?

    Quote Originally Posted by kan_t
    That means we can have two WS titles in the next few years?
    As a Sox fan, that was my first thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketbooster
    I really can't agree with the premise of the post. First, I think this is a little dramatic, at least for Alex. I don't believe anything I read in the media in regards to Alex and his relationship with his teammates because they simply have no motivation for revealing the truth - his teammates basically like him, as weird as they may think he is.
    Actually, I think the opposite is true. The players have no motivation to reveal the truth about any issues they have with Alex personally. They know they need his production, and I'm guessing they realize he's a great team player between the lines, so they are not going to stir up a storm if they can avoid it. This is precisely at the heart of the (small, thin) parallel to be drawn between A-Rod and Manny.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketbooster
    Of course maybe a few people dislike Alex, but then, there is no person in the world that is liked by everyone. I won't get into the organization's feelings about Alex because, again,. we are getting our info from an unreliable media that has an agenda with regards to this player.
    If you can honestly watch Brian Cashman talk about A-Rod without reading his personal opinion of A-Rod all over his face, I think you're intentionally choosing to overlook the obvious.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketbooster
    Also, if the Yankees would want to dump Alex, it would basically be because of the contract. The Red Sox wanted to dump Manny because he was truly becoming a problem ON the field - there is a big difference.
    I agree with all of this. However I think it's important to talk about what it means to say "it would basically be because of the contract." Part of it is the obvious stuff that no player should be given 10 years at $30M per year when there isn't even a second bidder, etc. But part of it is that the justification for the huge dollars was predicated on the marketing value of a "clean" player chasing down the home run record. If I were the Yankees I would be livid, absolutely rip-s**t livid to learn just one year later that the player's marketing value is now completely and permanently trashed. Compound that with the possibility that he's not going to be nearly as durable as they all thought, and it's pretty bad news.

    Everybody has nine more years to figure out how to try to make things work. But I would bet anything that at least right now, thinking about A-Rod makes the Yankees brass' collective stomachs turn.
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