I didn't figure he had a chance to earn a 2009 thread, but he hasn't looked bad, so far. It would be great if he'd "find it" and stick as a middle/set-up guy - or at least pitch well enough to be acceptable as a trade inclusion.
I didn't figure he had a chance to earn a 2009 thread, but he hasn't looked bad, so far. It would be great if he'd "find it" and stick as a middle/set-up guy - or at least pitch well enough to be acceptable as a trade inclusion.
At this point, his best hope for success in the majors is to be traded to an NL team and latch on as a back of the rotation guy. However, with the economy as it is, the yanks would have to swallow a lot of his salary.
I feel bad for Igawa. His skill set just didn't translate into U.S. baseball (while a career mediocre pitcher like Okajima got himself a ring) and now he's toiling in the minors.
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I highly doubt his skill set translates into a backyard wiffle ball game....Originally Posted by delv
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Can Dr Useless play 3B? i didnt think so...back to the minors!
what a waste of bandwidth
If he'd "find it", I trade him for something valuable immediately.
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He's almost a dominant AAA pitcher. THat's an expensive player for S-WB
Don't blame Igawa, all he did was take the offer. What fat toad made him the offer?
totally agree...but I thought the thread is on "Kei Igawa performance"....not "Yankee mgmt high-priced pitcher contract performance".
Besides, you do realize I was comparing the situation to a repeat of Hideki Irabu, right?
I got the reference. But Irabu had the body of Wells and the temperament of Ed Whitson. Igawa doesn't seem to be a bad guy
The comparison to Irabu makes no sense.
1) Irabu was a heralded Japanese pitcher, Igawa wasn't
2) Irabu actually produced (a little) for us, Igawa hasn't
3) They look nothing alike so "Little Toad" makes as much sense as calling Irabu a "Fat Johnny Depp"
Irabu was actually good then he got fatter and bad.
Igawa never was good...
He's still leaving pitches up in the zone and his mechanics still suck.
Even if he looked awesome his next few times out, I would still not hold out that it will last a season. I am not sure what they saw in him.
possibly the most surprising thread i've seen so far.
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i think igawa was heralded in japan. there wasn't so much media attention on him because matsuzaka was the hot commidity that winter.
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Nah Cashman even came out & said not to expect a #1 starter out of Igawa. I believe he went so far as saying to expect a back of the rotation starter.
Right! I was looking for Chien Ming Wang's thread, but couldn't find it. Instead, I found this thread. I only came in out of curiosity.
i didn't say they thought he'd be a number 1. i just said that there wasn't much attention on igawa cos everyone was focused on matsuzaka. igawa was highly thought of in japan however.
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After I figured out how to throw what was effectively a backwards curveball, I was unhittable.
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don't you mean an upside down curve ball?
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Alright I'll say it ... Igawa looked sharp tonight (3/10/09).
Never left the Betances bandwagon.
Yeah, he looked good
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Igawa has a 0.00 ERA in ST so far.
Is he going to try and make the case to be the Long Reliever? It's not that either Giese or Aceves have looked that great.
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Geise has looked ok the last two times and Aceves was very good last out. Igawa has no prayer for a spot on this team.Igawa has a 0.00 ERA in ST so far
Is he going to try and make the case to be the Long Reliever? It's not that either Giese or Aceves have looked that great.
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Here's the bullpen options I see, with 7 spots open (in no particular order): Rivera, Bruney, Coke, Marte, Albaladejo, Giese, Ramirez, Veras, Robertson, Aceves, Melancon, Igawa.
There is basically no chance in hell Igawa scratches that 7. Even with his ST performance, which probably isn't too far off from his AAA performance, I think all 11 of the other guys are ahead of him on the depth chart.
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we will only see him in the majors this year if we have a worse injury list than we did last year.
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I can't say that I totally blame Igawa for his poor performance in the majors. If my memory is correct (and it's very possibly flawed), the Yankees signed Igawa as an answer to Boston acquiring Okajima. The Yanks felt that they needed to import an arm in order to stay competitive with Boston - and Igawa was essentially rushed through the system to get to the Bronx.
I bet that given enough time, he could be a solid arm for another ballclub (maybe not the Yankees though - a bad first impression is hard to erase.)
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Igawa was supposed to be major league ready middle/back of the rotation guy.
He left so many fastballs up in the zone he couldn't even stick around for mop up duty.
I'll always remember him for his relief apperance against Boston that one day.. For one day, he shone as a Yankee
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i was at that game. karstens' leg was shattered. i was literally waiting for igawa to implode against boston. to everyone's shock, he did not.
Probably right. I think his days in the bronx are done. But what can he do in ST/AAA where he might be attaractive to some other team, posibly in the NL, where the Yanks might get some minimal value in trade assuming they pay some or all of what Kei is owed?
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Igawa continues his domination
Igawa will never pitch in the majors for the Yankees again, I'd bet my house on it.
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I'll take that bet. Where do you live?
I wouldn't. I doubt he breaks camp with the team, but if he dominates at SWB the Yanks could bring him up if there were an injury or to try to showcase him against some lesser offensive-minded teams.
Seriously. The guy pitched a full season of solid ball for SWB last year, and he's been ridiculous so far this Spring (0.00 ERA). If he keeps it up and there's a need, we just might see him again. If not, I'd be surprised if we couldn't unload him on a pitching hungry NL club.
That's what we should be trying to do now. However I still think interest is minimal.
If room ever opens on the 40-man he might get a shot so that we could trade him, but it doesn't look like there will be many openings on the 40. Even a guy like Melancon will likely have a tough time cracking it right now which is why he is in minor league camp. Plus we need to make room for another INF while ARod is out, probably Berroa.
If I'm Igawa am I trying everything I can to make the team or just accepting the fact that I'm getting paid nicely for throwing batting practice.....BTW I was in camp last month and watched him throw live BP and his first pitch nailed Juan Miranda....I was like WTF!
If what he has accomplished this spring is without trying, let him continue without trying!!
I know this is ST and it's only 11 innings but his ERA is 000 and BB/SO is low. I think he will be in Scanton. I don't know what he is doing differently but it seems to be working. I know Brian is his biggest supprter. Still feel Brian will trade him if something comes along because he is a lefty.
I wish him luck and hope he makes the pen.
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Just the name Kei Igawa proves two true facts:
** The Yankees should have made sure the right scouts saw Igawa pitch enough in Japan before deciding to spend their money so unfortunately. I've never really heard anyone come out and say how he was scouted and for how long.
** Spring training statistics often mean nothing when looking at the big picture.
There are some who think the Yanks don't want to bite the bullet and trade Igawa+about $9M, just to be rid of him. There are some who think he should just pitch for Scranton until his contract runs out in two (or three?)years. Personally, I think keeping him in Scranton admits the mistake that was made. IMO, if he can be moved and perhaps a couple of million dollars are saved, it should be done. I mean, didn't they release Quantrill and Karsay one year, eating their million dollar + salaries? Igawa is just taking up space.
I'm glad he's been pitching well, but let's not kid ourselves...
Kei Igawa has a LONG way to go before he can be considered anything more than a sunk cost to the Yanks at this point in time.
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I'll get in my go back machine and make a bigger offer for Dice K. It was a mistake with our scouting and the majority want to trade him. After the first year we knew he needed the minors. We won the governor cup last year (I think we lost the championship to Durham) and Igawa got a AAA pitcher of the year award. Maybe he is getting better. I wish I knew if he changed something.
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