As the trade deadline creeps up and the recent acquisition of Nady and Marte, what are the biggest needs left to address? There are many rumors every hour. Post yours or links here.
I would look for a 4th or 5th starting pitcher but if not, I think we can live with what is in the organization. I also think you can never have enough catchers and if you can get a quality one then do it ( like Benjie Molina).
My opinion is that most rumors could use there own thread, as ITL II isn't really "that" structured. It seems that most of the players we are targeting deserve there own thread (or already have one), so I don't know what we can post in this thread.
If other people are for this, I think it could be a good idea though.
Yeah I think a solid rumor should have it own thread but there are a lot that come and go so maybe this is a good place to ferret them out.Originally Posted by YanksFan1992
I guess starting pitcher. I'm not crazy about the guys being rumored (Washburn, Bannister), but I'm also really not crazy about our current #4 and 5 starters. I'm hoping for Kennedy to have a successful return, but I guess that's not something to bank on.
Sounds like a plan.Yeah I think a solid rumor should have it own thread but there are a lot that come and go so maybe this is a good place to ferret them out.
I think if Cashman can get a solid 4th or 5th, then I'd give Kennedy another shot. I like that Ponson is riding some luck but for how long? Not real crazy about Bannister but I think Washburn would do.
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Have him throw like he did in his last start at SWB a few more times.
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Does anyone know how well Nady can play first base?
Also I would like another batter who can play all outfield positions. Ryan Spilborghs would be a good get.
I think the yankees will get Washburn.
Seattle is playing hardball but no one is giving them a real commodity and paying that deal. Once they realize the Yankees will take every dollar, they'll take a sack of old socks for him and we'll get that deal done..
Other than that, I think we are just about finished here..
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Abraham has some trade notes in here but nothing really new. Melky to KC for Bannister met with mild interest.
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A starting pitcher. We can not keep going like this with Rasner and Ponson.
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I think we're good to go. Once we get Hughes and Wang back, which should hopefully be in a 2-3 weeks, then we have this rotation:
Joba
Wang
Pettite
Mussina
Hughes
I voted for nothing since I am hoping the Yanks give Kennedy another shot and he performs well...then again, hope is not a strategy...On second thought, getting a starter would be a good move. Just don't get fleeced.
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I don't know I don't think Wang will be back till late August early September. By that time I don't know where we're gonna be if we keep trotting Rasner/Ponson out there. Maybe we should give Kennedy another shot isn't he doing well in the minors? I wouldn't mind a rotation of
Joba
Pettitte
Mussina
Hughes
Kennedy
just at least till Wang comes back. Rasner might be good in the bullpen or you can always DFA Ponson and Rasner.
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Why do people continue to think that Wang is going to be back any time soon? Wang's leg is still in a cast, and if/when it comes off in a week or so, he is going to need plenty of rehab. The question is whether we are going to see him again this year.
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I think he's got a decent chance to come back in September but you are right, he shouldn't be penciled in. Hughes could be back soon, but will be he effective? Kennedy has been doing well in the minors but that's not news and I don't think they'll end up giving him another shot until next year. Washburn will probably be on a plane to NY tonight.
You can never have enough starting pitching.
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Can you guess which i voted for?
The loser now will be later to win...
Latest in another thread is Maddux. Not crazy about him at this point but I think everyone puts the Yanks in any rumor to generate interest.
Scoring more runs than your opponents in the playoffs wins championships, regardless of how you accomplish. Once Wang gets back i like our 4 man rotation. This offense still has some holes however.
Not giving up any runs and having a shut down closer really helps that fact. Just ask yourself what is more valuable, a .300, 50 HR, 130 RBI guy or a dominant shutdown pitcher? Wang is not coming back till September at best and even then do you really think he will be sharp for the postseason?
The loser now will be later to win...
Who does Milwaukee have of interest? They need a reliever and we have some to trade.
Both of those are insanely valuable. Your starter giving up 2 runs over 9 doesnt help if you get shut out. Hitting helps just as much as starting, you need both.
Wang should end up getting about about 4 mlb starts before playoff time, that should be enough
How long before Aceves gets a start? Waiting for Sept. call ups?
where`s the "all the above" option?
Wang's cast came off today, but he's on crutches. September is the best we can hope for. Part of these arguments are purely ridiculous. You take the .300, 50 HR, 130 rbi guy for the regular season. For the playoffs you need at least 3 shut down starters. The reason we haven't won a WS since 2000? Pitching didn't get it done. We don't HAVE to get Washburn, but how many here are willing to blank out the beginning of the season and give the key to the rest of this season to IPK and Hughes. I like them both, and I think with time they will be good pitchers. But we're close enough to honestly think about the playoffs this year. A bat would be nice, but we need a starter.
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Not exactly a trade rumor- just something that was brought up on MLBTR:
Kennedy to Texas for Salty straight up?
Whoa. Interesting, but difficult to say who ends up on the short end of this deal...
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Also: To all the mediots who actually bought into the "we're into defensive metrics now" Sox meme? You're morons.
Interesting but I want more...How bout that Hamilton guy thrown in???
I would make that trade. I have a good feeling about Salty going forward, he's only 23.
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I think I would, too.
The good thing about this idea is that we could clear out even more $$ from the payroll. Giambi goes, Posada moves to 1B full time, less stress on the legs and shoulder for him (not to mention that great bat full time), removing the need to mess around with Tex in the offseason (and the $$$$$$ he'd command), so we can concentrate on the moves we need to make to set up our rotation. The more I think about this, the more I like it,...which means it's a BS rumor.
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Also: To all the mediots who actually bought into the "we're into defensive metrics now" Sox meme? You're morons.
Catcher of the future? hmmm I think I would pull the trigger on this too.
Did they mention that the reason why Texas is putting him on the block is because they view him as not being a good catcher and thus will be moving to either 1st or 3rd base within the next 2 years?
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That could be because they have other young catching options that can provide better defense and hit their weight. The Yankees don't.
It could also be that in his two years in the majors he's thrown out 17% of runners the same percentage as Posada in 2008. While the Texas pitching staff is terrible he also hasn't shown much yet in terms of calling games and managing pitchers.
Salty's defense is the one thing that really scares me about him. Otherwise I would do this deal in a heartbeat.
That IPK for Salty trade has been up brought up here for over a week now. I'd do it in a minute and throw in a reliever if necessary.
I agree. We are going to have a lot of young pitchers in the next few years, and it will be important to have a good catcher. It's also kind of scary that he is throwing out runners at Posada's 2008 rate...
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He has an .800 OPS vs RHP.
Have him split time down the middle with Molina.
I'd love to trade RHP for position players.
You're preaching to the choir, BOSS!!
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Also: To all the mediots who actually bought into the "we're into defensive metrics now" Sox meme? You're morons.
Especially mid to back end of rotation RHP and non-Melancon relievers.
Jerome was just on the fan with Chris Carlin screaming at the top of his lungs that the Yankees need to get either Padilla or Arroyo if the Washburn trade isn't happening.
Simply hysterical. He was more fired up than I've heard him in quite some time. I think he actually said something to the effect of "Ponson and Rasner are SH*T!" and then got cut off.
Oh dear god no, can we please stop putting a premium on proven middling right handed starters.
Honestly, Padilla, Arroyo, Rasner, Kennedy, Aceves, Giese. In my mind the difference over such a short time frame is going to be negligible.
Can anyone remember a bigger trading deadline than this one? I mean, look at the names: Sabathia, Harden, Nady, Marte, Teixeira, Pudge, and maybe even Manny all switching teams. And there's still time for more. If Manny did go, that would be two future Hall of Famers and the reigning AL Cy Young all being traded, along with a lot of other solid to very good players. I like this kind of stuff.
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Yeah, it has been kinda cool following it this year. Seems like a lot of early action this year. Wonder if tomorrow will be a flurry of activity of teams that missed the boat and feel they have to make some moves for their fans.
I think Cashman isn't done. There are a few extra parts to move around yet. Washburn or someone else?
You would think considering the way he's gone all out to improve the lineup and bullpen that he wouldn't stop there. This team does still have the need for another SP. Washburn could still happen if the Mariners back down. But given the fact that virtually no one saw the Nady/Marte or Pudge deals coming, who knows what else Cashman could put together before the deadline. I have a lot of faith in him.
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