Salty An Option For The Yanks ? [mod]

[ARoDfan4life]

Q: Are the Rangers concerned that Jarrod Saltalamacchia does not appear to be the top-flight prospect he was billed to be. Is he the catcher most likely to be traded?

GRANT: There is some concern at some levels of the organization that Saltalamacchia may be a better prospect than a player. And I've got to say his throwing and hitting haven't overwhelmed me yet, but his plate discipline gets overlooked and I've got to re-emphasize that he's only 23 years old. He is younger than Max Ramirez and Taylor Teagarden. There is plenty of time for him to learn.

But the Rangers have depth at catcher and catcher is a valuable trade commodity. They've suddenly got a logjam at the position with it looking like they have four major league-ready guys. It would be easy to say Gerald Laird is the most likely to be traded since he's the most accomplished in the majors, the closest to free agency and the oldest. But I've seen a lot of growth from Laird this season, and he'll only have about a week before the trade deadline to prove to a team that he's completely ready to help them in a stretch drive.

A team like the New York Yankees or Boston Red Sox is going to be looking for a catcher for the future as much as the present. With that in mind, I think Saltalamacchia has more value to those teams than Laird. The Yankees might have more interest in Laird than Saltalamacchia simply because they have a more pressing need with Jorge Posada once again hurt.

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[YanksFan1992]

I would love to get him, but with Montero only a few years away I'm not sure it would be worthwhile to give up as much as we would need to in order to acquire him.

[flymick24]

this title is VERY misleading... it needs to be changed to something like "Salty an option for the yanks?"

[ARoDfan4life]

this title is VERY misleading... it needs to be changed to something like "Salty an option for the yanks?"

Blame Rosenthal not me. This was the initial title.

Rangers Salty to Yanks or BoSox?

[Tyler Durden]

It sounds like Laird, not Salty, is more likely to come here at the trade deadline, if at all.

I would love to see someone like Salty develop in NY, but I think a Laird/Molina platoon would be an improvement over Molina/Moeller.

[ARoDfan4life]

I would love to get him, but with Montero only a few years away I'm not sure it would be worthwhile to give up as much as we would need to in order to acquire him.

His stock is down Texas wants pitching. I know they were very interested in Kennedy not too long ago I wonder if that's an option now.

[ARoDfan4life]

It sounds like Laird, not Salty, is more likely to come here at the trade deadline, if at all.

I would love to see someone like Salty develop in NY, but I think a Laird/Molina platoon would be an improvement over Molina/Moeller.

rumors are Florida will land Laird.

[THEBOSS84]

His stock is down Texas wants pitching. I know they were very interested in Kennedy not too long ago I wonder if that's an option now.

If Kennedy could land us Salty, I'd drive him to the airport.

Salty is one of the most uncommon commodities in the game today. A young cost controlled catcher who can supposedly hit (and supposedly stick at catcher). The cost will be quite high.

[JeterForPresident]

If Kennedy could land us Salty, I'd drive him to the airport.

Salty is one of the most uncommon commodities in the game today. A young cost controlled catcher who can supposedly hit (and supposedly stick at catcher). The cost will be quite high.

I agree, hell I'd mapquest some directions for ya.

[SoCal Pinstriper]

His numbers are not impressive, and, on observation, he is not a great defender. I understand that he is young, but how many 6'4" catchers have really panned out at that position?

[ARoDfan4life]

His numbers are not impressive, and, on observation, he is not a great defender. I understand that he is young, but how many 6'4" catchers have really panned out at that position?

Kennedy + Cox would you do it ?

[JeterForPresident]

He has to be a Yankee, Saltalamacchia looks ridiculous on the back of a jersey, being a Yankee solves that problem.

[ARoDfan4life]

He has to be a Yankee, Saltalamacchia looks ridiculous on the back of a jersey, being a Yankee solves that problem.

Almost like it's meant to be I agree that 24 letters on your back just doesn't look right.

[THEBOSS84]

Kennedy + Cox would you do it ?

In a NY minute. I'd give more if necessary.

We need to start converting our pitching depth into position players.

[dont_ya_know24]

it's complete speculation. if the yankees were going to make a trade like this it wouldn't help improve them this season. it might help in the future, but not now. that is why i can't see cashman making a deal like this.

would love to see salty in pinstripes though...

[ARoDfan4life]

it's complete speculation. if the yankees were going to make a trade like this it wouldn't help improve them this season. it might help in the future, but not now. that is why i can't see cashman making a deal like this.

would love to see salty in pinstripes though...

It's actually gaining steam in Texas, that's how I heard of the whispers thier fans want pitching depth. Teagarden is said to be the replacement if and when Salty is dealt. IDK but a little pitching for Salty (I'd sure as hell do it)

I'm going to see if I find out more about this.

[spyglass]

He has to be a Yankee, Saltalamacchia looks ridiculous on the back of a jersey, being a Yankee solves that problem.

This post made me LOL.



Sorry, now everyone else can go about their regularly scheduled posting

[dont_ya_know24]

It's actually gaining steam in Texas, that's how I heard of the whispers thier fans want pitching depth. Teagarden is said to be the replacement if and when Salty is dealt. IDK but a little pitching for Salty (I'd sure as hell do it)

I'm going to see if I find out more about this.

gaining steam as in talks have started or are about to?

[SoCal Pinstriper]

Kennedy + Cox would you do it ?

I confess ignorance on several counts.

1.) What else could we get for Kennedy and Cox (both of whom I consider expendable, but should command value as guys who have a cost-controlled ML future)?

2.) Did Salty play 1B (where he'll end up) in the minors? Was he OK? Can he hit if he doesn't have to focus on catching?

3.) What are the chances that Posada can come back from (admittedly uncertain) shoulder surgery and be effective enough defensively to catch reguarly?

4.) Does anybody remember a decent ML catcher beside http://www.baseball-reference.com/p/parrila02.shtml AND http://www.baseball-reference.com/p/parrila02.shtml who was close to this tall?

[THEBOSS84]

4.) Does anybody remember a decent ML catcher beside http://www.baseball-reference.com/p/parrila02.shtml AND http://www.baseball-reference.com/p/parrila02.shtml who was close to this tall?

Mauer is 6'5

Piazza 6'3

[dont_ya_know24]

Mauer is 6'5

Piazza 6'3

i'm a better catcher than piazza. enough said.

[Casius]

4.) Does anybody remember a decent ML catcher beside http://www.baseball-reference.com/p/parrila02.shtml AND http://www.baseball-reference.com/p/parrila02.shtml who was close to this tall?

Joe Mauer and A.J. Pierzynski

It would be a gamble, since Salty has been less-than-impressive this year, but it certainly is an interesting opportunity. Maybe I'm a homer, but I'm still not that keen on trading Kennedy. I think he was overvalued in the offseason (which is why I advocated trading him then), but now he's severely undervalued, and I don't want the Yankees to get shortchanged by trading him at the low-point in his stock. Plus I think he can possibly still help a lot in the second half.

[SoCal Pinstriper]

Mauer is 6'5

Piazza 6'3

Were it not for Morneau, Mauer would not be a catcher (he is adequate, but not great defensively)

Piazza, at no point in his career, was a good defensive catcher (EDIT- and I don't see Salty as a HOF slugger).

We are now experiencing the (almost 1 run per game) benefit that a great defensive catcher provides. I would hate to see us burn two quality prospects on a guy who ends up being below league average at catcher, and even worse at 1B.

Personally, I had Salty in the same category as Andy Marte, yet another highly touted prospect who will not pan out. Salty has a huge advantage in that the paucity of decent players at his position means that he'll get more opportunities, but I do not see him living up to his BA billing.

[SoCal Pinstriper]

Joe Mauer and A.J. Pierzynski

It would be a gamble, since Salty has been less-than-impressive this year, but it certainly is an interesting opportunity. Maybe I'm a homer, but I'm still not that keen on trading Kennedy. I think he was overvalued in the offseason (which is why I advocated trading him then), but now he's severely undervalued, and I don't want the Yankees to get shortchanged by trading him at the low-point in his stock. Plus I think he can possibly still help a lot in the second half.

I will concede you AJ. Good call.

[BRNXBMRS]

If the Yanks can get Satlksdfhaklshgoaig, for the right package than do it, catchers are at a premium.

[False1]

His numbers are not impressive, and, on observation, he is not a great defender. I understand that he is young, but how many 6'4" catchers have really panned out at that position?

This year he has caught 16.6% of SB attempts. Compare that to Posada - who earlier wasn't even making throws and lately has been throwring with the bum shoulder - at 17.0% this year. Yikes.

Also, Salty would be on pace to have about 16 passed balls if he caught 162 games at this rate.

So you have to be wary as Socal points out. He's young and had some very good results in 2 MiLB seasons, but if he's not going to be behind the plate do the Yankees need him, particularly if the cost is Kennedy+?

[yankeesrule2000]

i'm a better catcher than piazza. enough said.

Whats up with the Whopper in your sig? everytime i see it i get hungry..

[-tz]

No dice. Fans have enough trouble spelling "Pettitte."

[1936-1939JoeNLou]

Im going to give it a go without looking it up.

Saltalamachia?

[-tz]

Im going to give it a go without looking it up.

Saltalamachia?

FAIL!!!!

[ArodMVP217]

Ashley Saltalamacchia is hot

[metalboy15]

wilk75 (houston): Rangers-Yanks trade...Salty for Ian Kennedy?

Joe Sheehan: Saltalamacchia seems to be third on the list in Texas, so this deal might make sense for both teams, but I think Daniels would want more back. Would Kennedy and Edwar Ramirez be too much? Kennedy's value has plummeted this year. It'd work for the Yankees, who would have an offense/defense combination behind the plate, and a candidate for a job-share with Posada at C/DH for the next couple of seasons. I just don't know if it's enough to get him.

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/ch...php?chatId=499

[THEBOSS84]

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/ch...php?chatId=499

I'd throw in Texas boy Cox.

[dont_ya_know24]

Whats up with the Whopper in your sig? everytime i see it i get hungry..

at BK you got it.

[Hellsing]

Saltalamacchia throws worse than Posada WITH the shoulder injury.

[dont_ya_know24]

they should take a look at max ramirez.

kennedy/mccutchen and cox seems like a really fair trade.

[JL25and3]

Were it not for Morneau, Mauer would not be a catcher (he is adequate, but not great defensively)

Piazza, at no point in his career, was a good defensive catcher (EDIT- and I don't see Salty as a HOF slugger).

We are now experiencing the (almost 1 run per game) benefit that a great defensive catcher provides. I would hate to see us burn two quality prospects on a guy who ends up being below league average at catcher, and even worse at 1B.

Personally, I had Salty in the same category as Andy Marte, yet another highly touted prospect who will not pan out. Salty has a huge advantage in that the paucity of decent players at his position means that he'll get more opportunities, but I do not see him living up to his BA billing.

A run a game? No.

Edit: I did a little number crunching. Take a league-average offense - 4.01 R/G - and give them average pitching but a bad catcher, so they're giving up 4.51 R/G, an extra half-run a game. Then replace him with a catcher that gives a run-per-game advantage - 3.51 R/G.

The first team projects to a 72-win team. The second team wins 91. I don't care how good a catcher is, he can't make anything remotely like that kind of difference.

[JL25and3]

I would love to get him, but with Montero only a few years away I'm not sure it would be worthwhile to give up as much as we would need to in order to acquire him.

Most of what I've read says that Montero doesn't project as a catcher.

[metalboy15]

they should take a look at max ramirez.

kennedy/mccutchen and cox seems like a really fair trade.

Ramirez is not a catcher long term.

[False1]

I'd throw in Texas boy Cox.

Are you proposing adding Cox to Kennedy and Ramirez for Salty? I'd pass on that. See my post above... Unless something is easily fixed, he's not a catcher. And he's struggling with the bat. Where would we play him?

[THEBOSS84]

Are you proposing adding Cox to Kennedy and Ramirez for Salty? I'd pass on that. See my post above... Unless something is easily fixed, he's not a catcher. And he's struggling with the bat. Where would we play him?

No, only Kennedy and Cox

I'd have him split time (literally) with Molina.

[bmxstreetrider86]

No, only Kennedy and Cox

I'd have him split time (literally) with Molina.

if the yankees got salty, for a package like that, id probably be the happiest man in the world


kennedy+cox+someone else for Salty and a prospect? i mean we cant get just salty, who really hasnt done anything good in the majors (most of what he has shown is pretty bad actually)

[HughesIsNasty]

"On the catching front, the Yanks asked the Rangers about Gerald Laird and Jarrod Saltalamacchia but didn't get anywhere."

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/