Who do you want/NOT want on the 2009 Yankees?

[yankeeman61]

Yeah, it's still early in 2008 but as Yogi says "It's getting late early". When it becomes Rasner to the rescue and Posada heading to the DL for the first time ever, you know things must be shaping up to be a true year of transition. While it doesn't appear to be a major rebuilding project changes will happen as they always do in Yankeeland. Here is what I would like to see:

Goodbye

Giambi
Farnsworth
Mussina
Damon - trade him while he is still worth something
Matsui - ditto - Torre would want him - get prospect(s)
Hawkins
Traber
Betemit

Hello, FA's

Texiera
Dunn

K-Rod - yeah I know it's a pipe dream but can you imagine him setting up for Mo? Give him lots of money and he'll be closing again by age 30. If they can't get him I would look at Lidge or Lyon

CCCC Sabathia - no I'm not concerned about his weight or what he's done so far this year; he can pitch and would be great in YS

I'm keeping Abreu - 2 years, team option for a 3rd - if he wants more then it's goodbye - AJax is hopefully ready


Cabrera CF
Jeter SS
Abreu RF / DH
ARod 3B
Texiera 1B
Dunn DH / RF
Cano 2B
Posada C
Gardner /Ajax LF - platoon

Starters

Wang
Pettitte
Sabathia
Chamberlain
Hughes

Mo
K-Rod , but Lidge or Lyon more realistic
Dorf
Patterson
Bruney ?
Albaladejo
Horne ?
Kennedy?

Bench

Molina
A Gonzo
Gardner or AJax

Fill in the blanks


Suggestions?

[YankeePride1967]

definite gones are Pavano, Giambi and Mussina. I would look for offers for Damon and Matsui but wouldn't look to unload them.

[YankeeZim]

Goodbye


Pavano (thank god)
Giambi
Traber
Betemit
Hawkins




Hello, FA's

Texiera
Pat Burrell
A. J. Burnett (if he opts out of final year of contract)
C. C. Sabathia (if A.J. doesnt)
Brad Lidge

I'd love K-Rod, but i dont believe there is any chance of him ever setting up for anyone.

If we dont re-sign one of Mussina/Pettitte then we're gonna need 2 FA pitchers if we have hopes of competing.

[Mark19]

I would throw a swimming pool full of cash at Teixeira but I'm not convinced we are the most desperate team out there. Same applies for Sabathia.

Better to go for value than the big name.

Assuming Hughes, Kennedy and Joba can all be no worse than league-average in 2009, I would bank on at least two of them taking up rotation spots.

I would offer Andy the same inflated salary to return but I wouldn't hold my breath.

I would test the market for high-risk guys like Burnett (if he opts out) and Sheets. If they can somehow be had for 3-4 year deals and are coming off of years with 25+ starts, I would pull the trigger.


I would strongly consider clearing out some AA-AAA pitching for positional prospects.

For the lineup, I would offer Abreu a two year deal to return but I wouldn't overpay to keep him long-term considering his age and the likelihood of decline. If he doesn't want to return, I would suggest making a play for Mark Teahen and platooning him with a cheap veteran like Juan Rivera.

The other option would be to bring up Gardner and move Melky to right.
This outfield would be awfully weak on offense though.

Giambi is gone and I'm not convinced blowing $200 million on Tex is the right way to go.
If Miranda has a nice season, I could see him being a part-timer, but I don't think we can rely on this happening.

Adam LaRoche has been underperforming massively with Pittsburgh and I suspect they would be anxious to move him. He is only 28, has a very good glove and would be a nice platoon partner with Shelley. We desperately need to inject some youth into this lineup and I imagine this would be a good start.
Also, I would give Jeter and Matsui three games a week at DH. I would be more than willing to put Molina behind the plate twice a week so we can preserve Posada. Alberto Gonzalez has already shown he can be our big glove man around the infield. Betemit is versatile but not excellent at any one position, therefore he needs to start hitting if he wants to stay on the team.

Bullpen:
Mo isn't going anywhere and you can put me in the camp of those who think Joba has to be a starter by the end of the summer.
The best relievers usually come out of nowhere and I see no reason why we can't give Ohlendorf, Albaldejo, Patterson, Bruney, Britton and Robertson/Cox opportunities to be set-up men next year. The only major acquisition I would consider would be Brian Fuentes as a LHRP -- all depends on whether he sticks at CL for the Rockies.


2009 Roster:

Rotation:

Wang
Chamberlain
Pettite/Wolf
Hughes
Sheets/Burnett OR Kennedy/Horne

Lineup:

Damon LF
Jeter SS/DH
Abreu RF
Rodriguez 3B
Matsui DH
Posada C
Duncan/LaRoche 1B
Cano 2B
Cabrera CF

Bench:

Molina C
Gonzalez INF
Betemit/Christian UTIL
Miranda 1B/DH

Bullpen:

Rivera CL
Bruney RHRP
Ohlendorf RHRP
Fuentes LHRP
Albaladejo/Britton RHRP
Rasner Long Relief/Swing Man

[NavyTim]

When is Igawa done on his contract ? - as he is one to go to the curb as well....

[BRNXBMRS]

Goodbye


Pavano (thank god)
Giambi
Traber
Betemit
Hawkins




Hello, FA's

Texiera
Pat Burrell
A. J. Burnett (if he opts out of final year of contract)
C. C. Sabathia (if A.J. doesnt)
Brad Lidge

I'd love K-Rod, but i dont believe there is any chance of him ever setting up for anyone.

If we dont re-sign one of Mussina/Pettitte then we're gonna need 2 FA pitchers if we have hopes of competing.

So basically sign every high price F/A out there and dont give Cashmans LTP another year. And run the payroll right back up to $200 mill.

[JavyVazquezIsSick]

I'm OK with all your goodbyes. I don't want any of the FAs. I'd like to see where Bobby is at by the end of the year, if its a good year, I'd offer him a 2 year extension at the max.

[yankeeman61]

Pavano hasn't been a part of this team so he didn't even warrant a goodbye

For those suggesting Melky move for Gardner or AJax I'm OK with that as long as either can handle CF. Melky has a plus arm and it would seem wasted in LF. Then again, absolutely no one would be running on him from LF

[BillBuckner]

Definite goodbyes to Giambi, Mussina, and Pavano. Get rid of Damon and Farnsworth only if we can find adequate replacements. Give Texeria and Sabathia blank checks and find out their hat sizes.

[BillBuckner]

When is Igawa done on his contract ? - as he is one to go to the curb as well....

Hmmm. I actually forgot he existed.

[Bologma!]

Goodbye
Giambi
Farnsworth
Mussina
Matsui - He can't play a position and has more trade value than Damon (hasn't hit in the playoffs)
Abreu - Worse defensively, wrong side of 30, has been inconsistent, get picks for letting him walk.
Hawkins

Hello
Texiera - If I'm paying for a player then I want someone who can actually field their position well. Sick and tired of management only paying attention to two facets of the game. Use the money saved on trading Matsui and not re-signing Abreu.

K-Rod - Blow him out of the water so he'll except set-up roll.

CC Sabathia - Drop Pettitte and use the saved on him.

EDIT: I like Burnett, but teams will way over pay for his 'stuff'.

2009 Roster:
Rotation:
Sabathia
Wang
Chamberlain (I assume entering camp we can expect him to be at least a little above average)
Hughes (If he doesn't show he can hold his own then he becomes #5 and we look elsewhere for a 4, maybe the proceeds from the Matsui trade)
McCutchen
(Ideally I'd like to go to camp with six guys fighting for five spots)

Lineup:
Cabrera CF
Jeter RF (NO MORE SS! Cashman and Girardi need to put an end to this)
Tex RF
Rodriguez 3B
Posada C
Cano 2B
DH (rolling spot to rest our starters especially Po, throw some sh!t at a wall, look at a temporary fix through trade if everyone bombs)
Damon LF
AG (Taking a digger on this one since his bat will be terrible, but he'll be providing excellent D at one of the most important defensive positions)

Bench:
Molina C (gives Po lots of rest)
Betemit UTIL
Gardner OF
XXXXX

Bullpen:
Mo CL
F-Rod Set-up
Bruney
Albaladejo
Ohlendorf
Britton
XXXXX

Summary:
Offense: It was nice going a long time with a name at every spot in the lineup but we'll still put up runs with the top teams. In fact, with the age regression of Matsui and Abreu there's a fair chance Tex' superior and sustained numbers and perhaps some growth by Melky and Cano that we'll be as good as if we had kept them. Gardner will provide excellent speed off the bench for the !Brian Roberts! moments.
Starters: Where the offense might fall off the pitching is better. Sabathia is considerably better than Pettitte and will provide more stability to the top of the rotation than the current combo. Joba > Mussina. Hughes 2009 > Hughes 2008. McCutch gets a shot to fill out the rotation, if he fails some there should be some guys moving up to replace him. Improved defense will help the staff, which brings us to...
Defense: SS and 1B vastly improved with SS providing providing an especially tremendous aid to our starters. I'm confident Jeter will be better than Bobby in RF but who knows.
Bullpen: F-Rod will help stabilize the pen like Joba did. Though Bruney's and Ohlendorf's raw stuff will be lights out on occasion I'm not expecting anyone to make a tremendous improvement, just serviceable relief pitching behind a staff that will be much better equipped to hide the pens flaws.

[BennyTheJetRodriguez]

Good Idea for a thread.

First and foremost I want Raphael Soriano, who I believe is a FA.

As far as OFers go, I love Dunn, but he may get the Giambi treatment from fans who love batting average and hate strikeouts. He'd be a nice consolation prize if the Yankees decided not to go after Tex or re-up Abreu.

I like Burrell more than most, in fact I suggested trading Pavano for him a year or two back and got laughed at for it (from the yankee fan standpoint, not the phillies fan standpoint), but he's having a big contract year so far and seems like the type of dude that would be a d:ck and ask for something unreasonable because of it.

Ibanez is always solid. He's also the nice, quiet, "lunchpale" type that many Yankee fans have become obsessed with.

Any of the guys I mentioned are also options at first base IMO. Other than Soriano obviously. Then again Posada should be seeing more time there.

[yankeeman61]

Good Idea for a thread.

First and foremost I want Raphael Soriano, who I believe is a FA.

As far as OFers go, I love Dunn, but he may get the Giambi treatment from fans who love batting average and hate strikeouts. He'd be a nice consolation prize if the Yankees decided not to go after Tex or re-up Abreu.

I like Burrell more than most, in fact I suggested trading Pavano for him a year or two back and got laughed at for it (from the yankee fan standpoint, not the phillies fan standpoint), but he's having a big contract year so far and seems like the type of dude that would be a d:ck and ask for something unreasonable because of it.

Ibanez is always solid. He's also the nice, quiet, "lunchpale" type that many Yankee fans have become obsessed with.

Any of the guys I mentioned are also options at first base IMO. Other than Soriano obviously. Then again Posada should be seeing more time there.

You know I forgot about Soriano. He would be a good option and maybe better than Lidge or Lyon. He is one of those under the radar guys.

I thought you might call me on Dunn after all of our Giambi discussions I don't like all of his K's either, but I would like to see one more booming RH bat in the lineup and he can play OF and is only 29. I would honestly spend the money (not the years!) to grab both Dunn and Tex. That lineup would be quite balanced. I do like Ibanez and wouldn't mind him if Abreu leaves. Burrell would be nice to have right now...oh if only Pavano could have been unloaded...GAH!

[fredgmuggs]

I wouldn't be surprised to see Abreu getting a nice 3 or 4 year contract from the Yankees.... and I think that would be a huge mistake.

[cupcollector99]

If the Yankees can convince someone to take Damon, Igawa and/or Matsui, I'd be happy.
Then the Yanks lose Giambi, Mussina, Abreu, Farnsworth and that Pavano guy I keep hearing about too. The Yankees need ballplayers not huge albatross contracts. Remember, the Yankees have the new stadium coming on line so they have assured themselves at least two seasons of people buying tickets just for the novelty of it so they have some wiggle room when it comes to developing players so they should take advantage of it. I don't see Cashman going back to the 200+ mil payroll unless the Steins get involved so some of the free agent dreams we have will probably remain just that.

[NYKforever]

Goodbye

Giambi
Abreu - get the picks
Farnsworth
Mussina
Hawkins
Traber
Betemit
Pavano (as if he was ever here in the first place)

On the Fence

Damon/Matsui- Would trade one of them if possible


Hello, FA's

Texiera
Lidge


Damon LF
Jeter SS
Cano 2B
ARod 3B
Texiera 1B
Matsui DH
Posada C
Melky CF
Jackson RF

Bench

Molina C
A Gonzo IF
Duncan 1B/RF
Gardner OF

Starters

Wang
Pettitte
Chamberlain
Hughes
Kennedy

Mo
Lidge
Bruney
Ohlendorf
Ramirez
Albaladejo
Horne

There are plenty of other options in the bullpen:

Cox
Rasner
Karstens
McCutchen
Robertson
Veras
Patterson
Sanchez (still recovering)

[montrealer]

Yeah, it's still early in 2008 but as Yogi says "It's getting late early". When it becomes Rasner to the rescue and Posada heading to the DL for the first time ever, you know things must be shaping up to be a true year of transition. While it doesn't appear to be a major rebuilding project changes will happen as they always do in Yankeeland. Here is what I would like to see:

Goodbye

Giambi
Farnsworth
Mussina
Damon - trade him while he is still worth something
Matsui - ditto - Torre would want him - get prospect(s)
Hawkins
Traber
Betemit

Hello, FA's

Texiera
Dunn

K-Rod - yeah I know it's a pipe dream but can you imagine him setting up for Mo? Give him lots of money and he'll be closing again by age 30. If they can't get him I would look at Lidge or Lyon

CCCC Sabathia - no I'm not concerned about his weight or what he's done so far this year; he can pitch and would be great in YS

I'm keeping Abreu - 2 years, team option for a 3rd - if he wants more then it's goodbye - AJax is hopefully ready


Cabrera CF
Jeter SS
Abreu RF / DH
ARod 3B
Texiera 1B
Dunn DH / RF
Cano 2B
Posada C
Gardner /Ajax LF - platoon

Starters

Wang
Pettitte
Sabathia
Chamberlain
Hughes

Mo
K-Rod , but Lidge or Lyon more realistic
Dorf
Patterson
Bruney ?
Albaladejo
Horne ?
Kennedy?

Bench

Molina
A Gonzo
Gardner or AJax

Fill in the blanks


Suggestions?

Put the Crack pipe down.

[BRNXBMRS]

Put the Crack pipe down.

No $hit, according to that guy no other MLB team is going to sign any F/A's

[Allan]

If the Yankees can convince someone to take Damon, Igawa and/or Matsui, I'd be happy.
Then the Yanks lose Giambi, Mussina, Abreu, Farnsworth and that Pavano guy I keep hearing about too. The Yankees need ballplayers not huge albatross contracts. Remember, the Yankees have the new stadium coming on line so they have assured themselves at least two seasons of people buying tickets just for the novelty of it so they have some wiggle room when it comes to developing players so they should take advantage of it. I don't see Cashman going back to the 200+ mil payroll unless the Steins get involved so some of the free agent dreams we have will probably remain just that.

It's going to difficult to avoid considering that just 4 players ( A-Rod, Jeter, Rivera, Posada) will command $ 78 M or so for each of the next several years.

[DaSh 1s]

Goodbye
Giambi
Farnsworth
Mussina
Matsui - He can't play a position and has more trade value than Damon (hasn't hit in the playoffs)
Abreu - Worse defensively, wrong side of 30, has been inconsistent, get picks for letting him walk.
Hawkins

If it wasn't for Abreu and Matsui I dont even think we would be above .500 this year

[teknetic]

Goodbye:
Giambi
Farnsworth
Mussina
Hawkins

FA's:
Abreu (I wouldn't go over 2 years, 3 might be pushing it)
Texiera (This has to be priority #1; switch-hitter with pop, still in prime, exceptional defensively; add to the fact we have NO ONE in the minors)

I wouldn't touch CC with a ten foot pole. K-Rod is gonna ask for a ton of dough and I'm not sure how he'll react to setting up. We have a ton of money being freed up, so more than one big fish isn't out of the realms of possibility.

[yankeeman61]

No $hit, according to that guy no other MLB team is going to sign any F/A's

I guess we shouldn't want what we want

[JohnnyDamonfan]

Good Bye

Pavano

Giambi

Mussina

Hawkins

Hello:

Mark T. (All though I do want CC if we could just get Mark T. I'd be happy.)


I think we might be able to get K-rod I wouldn't mind having him as the set up guy. But he would probably want to close and there are tons of teams that need a good closer. If we could find a way to get Tex. and CC that would be the best possible outcome.

[BRNXBMRS]

I guess we shouldn't want what we want

Thats fine, but you have the Yanks signing every available top tier free agent in 09.

[brosiusbuddy]

Seriously? This thread is started on May 2? Why is 2009 even a topic yet and why would you decide now who you want when you haven't even seen what all of your "goodbyes" have done in 2008?

[yankeeman61]

Thats fine, but you have the Yanks signing every available top tier free agent in 09.

And this would be a problem for the Yankees?

Seriously, it's a wish list. Do you get everything you want for Christmas? I don't, but I'm going to put some good stuff on the list. Why ask for Juan Rivera when you can ask for Adam Dunn?

[cupcollector99]

Thats fine, but you have the Yanks signing every available top tier free agent in 09.

How many complaints are we going to read about how "old" Tex will be after a five year contract?

[Ynkcpt23]

Yeah, it's still early in 2008 but as Yogi says "It's getting late early". When it becomes Rasner to the rescue and Posada heading to the DL for the first time ever, you know things must be shaping up to be a true year of transition. While it doesn't appear to be a major rebuilding project changes will happen as they always do in Yankeeland. Here is what I would like to see:

Goodbye

Giambi
Farnsworth
Mussina
Damon - trade him while he is still worth something
Matsui - ditto - Torre would want him - get prospect(s)
Hawkins
Traber
Betemit

Hello, FA's

Texiera
Dunn

K-Rod - yeah I know it's a pipe dream but can you imagine him setting up for Mo? Give him lots of money and he'll be closing again by age 30. If they can't get him I would look at Lidge or Lyon

CCCC Sabathia - no I'm not concerned about his weight or what he's done so far this year; he can pitch and would be great in YS

I'm keeping Abreu - 2 years, team option for a 3rd - if he wants more then it's goodbye - AJax is hopefully ready


Cabrera CF
Jeter SS
Abreu RF / DH
ARod 3B
Texiera 1B
Dunn DH / RF
Cano 2B
Posada C
Gardner /Ajax LF - platoon

Starters

Wang
Pettitte
Sabathia
Chamberlain
Hughes

Mo
K-Rod , but Lidge or Lyon more realistic
Dorf
Patterson
Bruney ?
Albaladejo
Horne ?
Kennedy?

Bench

Molina
A Gonzo
Gardner or AJax

Fill in the blanks


Suggestions?

Good luck getting value for Damon. Matsui could garner some interest.

I take it you're running under the assumption that Andy re-ups, which is possible, but can't be counted on.

K-Rod's never going to happen. They'd have to give him crazy $$ and convince him that setting up Mo, while temporary, is in his best interests.

I still don't see Patterson making the club unless he gets some time up here this season and performs well--more likely Rasner, unless IPK is pitching long relief. How many years does Hawkins have on his contract?

You have some interesting ideas--I still think the Sabathia thing is very unlikely as well. Concerns about his weight, overall health, and the mostly crap season he is having (before he pitched against us) + the $$$ he will command make it difficult.

[Dirty Coke]

Who would even take Damon?

[teknetic]

Seriously? This thread is started on May 2? Why is 2009 even a topic yet and why would you decide now who you want when you haven't even seen what all of your "goodbyes" have done in 2008?

Seriously? why do you care? It's May 2nd, what exactly is there to talk about?

[R.V.47]

Can we just rename this The Official 2009 Mark Texeira Performance Thread.

[CallOfTheCrow]

Gone:
Farnsworth
Pavano
Mussina
Giambi
Traber
Damon(only if we can get prospects or salary dump)
Betemit

Want:
Pettitte (if he will take a 2 year deal)
Sheets (if there would be an extensive injury clause in the contract)
AJ Burnett (See Ben Sheets)

[YankeeZim]

So basically sign every high price F/A out there and dont give Cashmans LTP another year. And run the payroll right back up to $200 mill.

Why not? They've been competitive and won 4 championships in the last 12 years using that formula.

[CT-Yankee]

GOODBYE
Mussina - OUR SECOND BEST PITCHER NOW!!
Giambi
Hawkins
Farnsworth
Cashman


HELLO
Texeira
Bronson Arroyo
Santana -Oops wait, we missed that - see Cashman above

[hongchihkuo]

hopefully mussina and pettitte will have good reasons to return.

definitely will pass on abreu. still can't believe his defense after watching some of those flyballs against kennedy. of course, clean out the lockers of pavano, farnsworth, hawkins, giambi as fast as possible.

unfortunately, damon and matsui appear untradeable.

absolute no to acquiring texeira or arroyo. bring up the prospects.

[THEBOSS84]

Gone:
Farnsworth
Pavano
Mussina
Giambi
Traber
Damon(only if we can get prospects or salary dump)
Betemit

Want:
Pettitte (if he will take a 2 year deal)
Sheets (if there would be an extensive injury clause in the contract)
AJ Burnett (See Ben Sheets)

I don't get your Pettitte condition. Why would we sign him to a 2 yr deal if he has showed he will go year to year with us?

[CallOfTheCrow]

I don't get your Pettitte condition. Why would we sign him to a 2 yr deal if he has showed he will go year to year with us?

Well if he wants to continue doing that, even better.

[THEBOSS84]

Well if he wants to continue doing that, even better.

I can totally see him doing it again. I believe he was quoted as saying that he wants to pitch in the new stadium.

[CallOfTheCrow]

I can totally see him doing it again. I believe he was quoted as saying that he wants to pitch in the new stadium.

Two enthusiastic thumbs up in support of that then.


I'm pretty sure I remember hearing him saying that as well.

[jbauer2485]

Didn't Tex say many times he didn't want to be a Yankee? I know you can't take that too seriously, but I'd hate to get my hopes up...

[THEBOSS84]

Didn't Tex say many times he didn't want to be a Yankee? I know you can't take that too seriously, but I'd hate to get my hopes up...

Where did you see this? Him saying that and eliminating the Yanks as a suitor is just dumb in so many ways.

[Yankees13]

I would sign Dunn instead of Tex. They're identical hitters, both career OPS+ of 130. Tex is better defensively, and has the benefit of being a switch hitter to add balance to our lineup, but Dunn will come at half the years, and less than half the price. As far as pitching, I wait to see what CC does this year, and how many years he demands. If he can be signed for something like 5/110, I do it. I would also re-sign Pettitte to create a rotation of: CC, Wang, Pettitte, Joba, and Hughes/Kennedy. I try to re-sign Abreu at a reasonable cost, and try to move Matsui.

[CallOfTheCrow]

Where did you see this? Him saying that and eliminating the Yanks as a suitor is just dumb in so many ways.

& his agent (isn't it Boras?) would be like "good f*cking job, slick."

[THEBOSS84]

I would sign Dunn instead of Tex. They're identical hitters, both career OPS+ of 130. Tex is better defensively, and has the benefit of being a switch hitter to add balance to our lineup, but Dunn will come at half the years, and less than half the price. As far as pitching, I wait to see what CC does this year, and how many years he demands. If he can be signed for something like 5/110, I do it. I would also re-sign Pettitte to create a rotation of: CC, Wang, Pettitte, Joba, and Hughes/Kennedy. I try to re-sign Abreu at a reasonable cost, and try to move Matsui.

Dude the reason that Dun will come at half the years and half the price is that he sucks on defense. Do we want another bad 1b/dh type who also is iffy in the OF? I want the two way player who can bat 3rd and not strike out 200 times a year.

I don't want to go near CC unless it's 4 years which basically means no deal.

[THEBOSS84]

& his agent (isn't it Boras?) would be like "good f*cking job, slick."

Yeah, it's Boras.... big no-no

[apalradio]

GOODBYE
Mussina - OUR SECOND BEST PITCHER NOW!!
Giambi
Hawkins
Farnsworth
Cashman


HELLO
Texeira
Bronson Arroyo
Santana -Oops wait, we missed that - see Cashman above

Interesting to see Arroyo on your list. I've been wondering if this isn't a good time to pick him up on the cheap. I'd like to see him shut down (and shut up) the Sox.

[cyhughes22]

Goodbye

Mussina
Giambi
Damon-I don't care if we give him away to homeless children in Sudan.
Hawkins: see Damon
Pavano

Hello

Big Tex
Burnett(If he stays healthy this year)
Brad Lidge
Pat Burrell

So my lineup is:

Cabrera CF
Jeter SS
Abreu RF
Rodriguez 3B
Teixeira 1B
Cano 2B
Matsui DH
Posada C
Burrell LF

Bench
Molina
Gonzalez
Ensberg
Gardner

Rotation
Wang
Burnett
Hughes
Pettitte/Kennedy
Chamberlain

Pen
Rasner/Kennedy
Ohlendorf
Farnsworth
Bruney
Lidge
Sanchez
Rivera

[Yankees13]

Dude the reason that Dun will come at half the years and half the price is that he sucks on defense. Do we want another bad 1b/dh type who also is iffy in the OF? I want the two way player who can bat 3rd and not strike out 200 times a year.

I don't want to go near CC unless it's 4 years which basically means no deal.

I probably seen him play 3 or 4 times in my life, so I'm clueless on his D, but is he really that bad at 1st? From what I've read he sucks in the OF, but I would sign him as a 1st baseman. I just think we would get similar production at a much cheaper price, since Teixeria has this great reputation and his agent is Boras. 8 years 180 million vs 5 years 80 million is a big price to pay for 1st base defense.

I would ideally only go to 4 on CC, but I would be willing to concede a 5th year, he is pretty young and has been completely healthy in his career. However, someone will give him more than 5 years so it's a moot point, we'll have to come up with a plan B most likely.

[jughead]

I don't know how some of you want to get rid of Matsui/Giambi and then bring in guys like Dunn. Makes absolutely no sense.

K-Rod and Lidge will not be setting up for the Yankees, so forget that too.

[Blazer]

Outgoing:

Giambi
Farnsworth
Mussina
Hawkins
Damon via trade
Betemit

Incoming:

Position Players:

1. Mark Teixeira
2. Pat Burrell
99. Adam Dunn


Starting Pitching:

1. CC Sabbathia
2. Ben Sheets
3. Paul Byrd
4. Derek Lowe
5. Jon Garland

Bullpen Help:

LH -
1. Brian Fuentes
1a. Hitoki Iwase
2. Damaso Marte

RH -
1.Brad Lidge
1a. Brandon Lyon
2.Kerry Wood
Long Shot - FRod