Suspension for Farnsworth??

[Zimmers' Helmet]

If true, then the anti-Yankee sentiment eminating from Bob Watson's office has now reached a new all-time high. This is ridiculous. Bob Watson should be terminated immediately. How does a player get a suspension when he wasn't even ejected from the game when this happened?

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/ba...or_thro-1.html

Farnsworth will be suspended three games and fined $2,000 for throwing behind Ramirez’s head in the seventh inning Thursday night in the Bronx, a source with knowledge of the situation told the Daily News on Saturday.
Farnsworth was not ejected from the game for the throw, which sailed behind Ramirez’s head. Instead, both teams were warned by home plate umpire Larry Vanover, though there were no further incidents in the game.

[JavyVazquezIsSick]

Wow, thats pathetic.

[R.V.47]

Pretty ridiculous. If this is the standard for suspensions then Cabrera shouldve gotten suspended for hitting Matsui twice.

[yankees101]

I hope Hank says something. This is just every year now like the Yankees are the Cincinnati Bengals of baseball. How can our star players get hit and nothing EVER happens and a ball comes close to hitting their guys and we get punished.

[Joba's Rings]

If that's true, that's incredible.

Aardsma won't get anything for actually hitting A-Rod - and that was intentional, no doubt about it. But Farnsworth will get suspended for not hitting Manny.

It's Bizarro World.

[NYYFAN]

Appeal to one game...next

[sahara]

I could understand a fine, but with something as uncertain as what happened, three games?

Ridiculous.

[Joba's Rings]

Next a Yankee will be suspended for sliding feet first.

Oops.

[In Mo I Trust]

Ridiculous.

[I Heart Jeter]

What a freaking joke

[GregPolo]

Wow! I am no Farnsworth supporter, but that is just wrong on every level. The punishment handed out of Watson's office is totally uneven and is completely biased!

[YanksFan1992]

Wow, that's ridiculous.

[JDPNYY]

This just in...


MLB has disbanded the Yankees for being bad.

[BonusCantos]

Not surprising. Watson is terrible.

[JeffWeaverFan]

Why isn't Aardsma suspended too then?

[Zimmers' Helmet]

Why isn't Aardsma suspended too then?

Apparently, it's because he's not wearing a Yankee uniform.

[moose antlers]

We can't have it both ways, and want Girardi to throw at peoples heads but not want the suspensions that come with it. Its the price we have to pay for knowing the Yankees will not be pushed around this year. The suspensions are just another way of spreading the word around the league... don't get too comfortable in the batters box or you might end up with a headache. Its a small price to pay really.

Pitcher suspensions dont really matter anyway. Just need to appeal it until Joba is back, and we won't even notice he's gone.

[False1]

Pitcher suspensions dont really matter anyway. Just need to appeal it until Joba is back, and we won't even notice he's gone.

That's not the point. I'm not one for conspiracy theories, but seriously. Someone needs to take a look at Watson's history with the Yankees. The guy just simply can't be impartial when it comes to this team.

[nhyankeefan]

Intentional or not, he threw behind Manny's head so I don't mind the suspension that much. He'll appeal and get it reduced to two games I'm sure. I just hope that "Yankee Bob" is consistent and suspends the next pitcher who throws behind someone's head.

[Joba's Rings]

We can't have it both ways, and want Girardi to throw at peoples heads but not want the suspensions that come with it. Its the price we have to pay for knowing the Yankees will not be pushed around this year. The suspensions are just another way of spreading the word around the league... don't get too comfortable in the batters box or you might end up with a headache. Its a small price to pay really.

Pitcher suspensions dont really matter anyway. Just need to appeal it until Joba is back, and we won't even notice he's gone.

Who really wants Girardi to have the pitchers throw at - or near - people's heads? Hopefully, no one.

This was a retaliation for an HBP. Manny himself even said so to the press. Why MLB feels the need to police this basic part of the game - and to do so unfairly - is ridiculous. Also, given how deep our SPs have been going into the game, missing a relief pitcher is a pretty big deal.

[Haywood2K6]

I don't understand the big deal, this seems like a fair punishment to me, he will probably get it reduced anyways. Maybe a game or so. He threw at Manny intentionally, and way too high, that is out of line. The suspension makes sense to me.

[yankeegeek]

Next time hit the guy, don't be nice and throw behind. Nice doesn't work, hit him.

[Jeter4President]

We can't have it both ways, and want Girardi to throw at peoples heads but not want the suspensions that come with it. Its the price we have to pay for knowing the Yankees will not be pushed around this year. The suspensions are just another way of spreading the word around the league... don't get too comfortable in the batters box or you might end up with a headache. Its a small price to pay really.

Pitcher suspensions dont really matter anyway. Just need to appeal it until Joba is back, and we won't even notice he's gone.

Regardless of whether the suspension is warranted or not, or what it will take to show that the Yankees won't be pushed around, it's never ok to throw at someone's head. I don't care who the batter is or what they've done. That goes beyond gamesmanship and trying to get an edge. You're putting players' careers and health at risk, and a team may retaliate and throw at a Yankee's head next time.

I'm not saying Farnsworth threw at his head on purpose or that he deserves to be suspended. I just don't like people advocating head hunting. Hit him in the ribs next time and it still sends a message.

[Joba's Rings]

I don't understand the big deal, this seems like a fair punishment to me, he will probably get it reduced anyways. Maybe a game or so. He threw at Manny intentionally, and way too high, that is out of line. The suspension makes sense to me.

Aardsma hit A-Rod just a few inches below where Farnsworth's pitch missed Manny. Where's Aardsma's suspension?

[NYYDragoon]

Yeah, this is a little sketchy being that he wasn't even ejected. When's the last time this has ever happened to anyone else?

[Skars]

OMG I CANT BELIEVE IT.


it will be appealed down to 1-2 games, and will be served right after he pitches a game and he wont even miss any time.

[stephsamps]

Yeah, this is a little sketchy being that he wasn't even ejected. When's the last time this has ever happened to anyone else?

Scott Proctor I think and when Joba was suspended did he actually hit the guy?

Did Bob Watson leave the Yanks on bad terms, because this kind of stuff is getting ridiculous (did we ever figure out what Melky did in the Rays game?). Our guy gets hit after hitting a home run, their guy doesn't get hit... what am I missing here?

[Matsui-San]

This is not surprising. Manny and Ortiz argued balls and strikes all series long and never got so much as a warning glance from the umpires.

[wang+cano=future]

Suspension? Before any warnings? After ARod was hit in a previous game? Uhhhh am I being a biased Yankee fan or is this just crazy?

[mgpenguin]

What a lovely double standard by Yankee fans. You WANTED Farnsworth to throw at Manny. You APPLAUDED it when he threw the ball behind his neck. Now you're upset that he's getting suspended. You can't have it both ways.

[JeffWeaverFan]

I don't understand the big deal, this seems like a fair punishment to me, he will probably get it reduced anyways. Maybe a game or so. He threw at Manny intentionally, and way too high, that is out of line. The suspension makes sense to me.

Which is the exact same thing that Aardsma did and he didn't get suspended.

[JeffWeaverFan]

What a lovely double standard by Yankee fans. You WANTED Farnsworth to throw at Manny. You APPLAUDED it when he threw the ball behind his neck. Now you're upset that he's getting suspended. You can't have it both ways.

1. When is there a suspension when there haven't been warnings and the pitcher wasn't ejected?

2. It's the exact same thing Aardsma did and he didn't get suspended.

[mgpenguin]

1. When is there a suspension when there haven't been warnings and the pitcher wasn't ejected?

When a guy is headhunting, I don't think it matters.

2. It's the exact same thing Aardsma did and he didn't get suspended.

Different situations. Aarsma hit him on the fifth pitch of an at-bat in the sixth inning when his team was trailing by two. It's annoying how Yankee fans assume that every HBP is intentional.

[mgpenguin]

Double post.

[JeffWeaverFan]

When a guy is headhunting, I don't think it matters.

Different situations. Aarsma hit him on the fifth pitch of an at-bat in the sixth inning when his team was trailing by two. It's annoying how Yankee fans assume that every HBP is intentional.

If he wanted to hit him in the head, he would have. And if the umpire was sure he was, he would have ejected him on the spot.

Yeah, with a 3-1 count and first base open. That one was obviously intentional.

[wang+cano=future]

What a lovely double standard by Yankee fans. You WANTED Farnsworth to throw at Manny. You APPLAUDED it when he threw the ball behind his neck. Now you're upset that he's getting suspended. You can't have it both ways.

I think most people think a suspension is unfair because Aardsma did the same thing to ARod a couple of games ago after he had hit a home run and nothing came of it...Now before any warnings were given Farnsworth threw at Manny after he had hit 2 home runs and wasn't ejected, and now is getting suspended.

It is the double standard of the whole situation that annoys me.

[yankeebot]

When a guy is headhunting, I don't think it matters.

Different situations. Aarsma hit him on the fifth pitch of an at-bat in the sixth inning when his team was trailing by two. It's annoying how Yankee fans assume that every HBP is intentional.

I don't see how you can detect intent by looking at film. If the umpire that is officiating the game doesn't see it, the league should respect his opinion. Since he didn't eject him, there was obviously doubt in his mind.

[puffyme]

What a lovely double standard by Yankee fans. You WANTED Farnsworth to throw at Manny. You APPLAUDED it when he threw the ball behind his neck. Now you're upset that he's getting suspended. You can't have it both ways.

Great point. I think if Farnsworth sticks Manny in the ribs or the butt nothing happens. I think it was the fact that he threw it up around the head. Just like nobody got suspended when Ellsbury got hit twice. Just part of the game. Farnsworth should have hit him no thrown at his head. Hitting Manny is baseball throwing at his head is bush.

[jimmyquickpitch]

Come on guys, I think we could all use a little reasoned thinking here. They are doing what we wanted them to do! We can't complain here. Also, is anyone worried about losing Farnsworth for a few games? Big deal, as far as I'm concerned he did exactly what he's out there to do. God knows he can't pitch, so we might as well use him as the enforcer as much as possible.

Also, throwing the ball inches from a batter's skull and hitting a batter in the body are two completely different situations.

[UconnYankeeFan]

I don't know that you can necessarily accuse Farnsworth of headhunting, since he isn't exactly a control pitcher. I'm not saying he definitely wasn't headhunting and in no way condone headhunting, just that he could have been trying to hit him lower and got a little excited and the pitch got away from him. I think the suspension's a little harsh, but I'm not surprised after the reactions by ESPN and the rest of the national media. Watson seems to be particularly reactive to the media, IMO.
(Does all that make sense?)

[ARoDfan4life]

When a guy is headhunting, I don't think it matters.

if that's the standard then why wasn't Aardasma suspended

Different situations. Aarsma hit him on the fifth pitch of an at-bat in the sixth inning when his team was trailing by two. It's annoying how Yankee fans assume that every HBP is intentional.

it's more annoying when the Yankees have to take the BS and you can't even support your own team for standing up for themselves.

During the Francona era here are the HBP stats. This isnt Bos-NY, this is in general

2004 HBP

Manny Ramirez 6
David Ortiz 4
Derek Jeter 14
Alex Rodriguez 10

2005 HBP

Manny Ramirez 10
David Ortiz 1
Derek Jeter 11
Alex Rodriguez 16

2006 HBP

Manny Ramirez 1
David Ortiz 4
Derek Jeter 12
Alex Rodriguez 8

2007 HBP

Manny Ramirez 7
David Ortiz 4
Derek Jeter 14
Alex Rodriguez 21

Ok lets Tally these up. Since Francona took over in 2004 (again these are NY-Bos games in general)

Manny Ramirez 2004-2007 24 HBP
David Ortiz 2004-2997 13 HBP
Derek Jeter 2004-2007 51 HBP
Alex Rodriguez 2004-2007 55

So add up the 2 superstars on each team

Manny and Ortiz 37
Alex and Jeter 106

I didn't see any suspensions for the Red Sox pitchers and one of them you blantantly could see on broad ESPN cameras was premeditated between Dice-K and Julian Tavaras. This is BS because the ball didn't even hit Manny, the stir is if it hit him !!! Alex took one between the 1 and 3 and nothing was done !! so you damn right we should be upset !, upset that Bob Watson chooses now to be a coward and a hypocrite behind the scenes ! Daniel Cabrera yesterday actually buzz Jetes back a few times and actually hit Hideki Matsui in the inner thigh bullsh.... !!!

[Byron]

Also, throwing the ball inches from a batter's skull and hitting a batter in the body are two completely different situations.

Arod was hit in the left should blade. How many inches is that from his head?

This is a ridiculous suspension that smells of double standard - no two ways about it.

[ARoDfan4life]

Arod was hit in the left should blade. How many inches is that from his head?

This is a ridiculous suspension that smells of double standard - no two ways about it.

it is a double standard, and next time we should actually hit Manny.

[Yankees1962]

OMG I CANT BELIEVE IT.


it will be appealed down to 1-2 games, and will be served right after he pitches a game and he wont even miss any time.

Yup, that is what's going to happen.

[montrealer]

This just in...


MLB has disbanded the Yankees for being bad.

Disbanded?.......and move them to Montreal..........

[njdhockey]

I thought this was going to be a joke thread, but I should have known better with how MLB treats the Yankees. Way to go Watson...

[PeteRFNY]

What a lovely double standard by Yankee fans. You WANTED Farnsworth to throw at Manny. You APPLAUDED it when he threw the ball behind his neck. Now you're upset that he's getting suspended. You can't have it both ways.

What a lovely broad-based assumption.

The problem isn't with the suspension...it's the idiotic over-policing of the game by Bob Watson's niceness Nazis. Guys get thrown at all the time. It used to be part of the game. Now you can't even look at a guy the worng way without getting a one-game suspension, and God forbid you are wearing a Yankee uniform - you'll get a THREE game suspension.

Michael Kay mentioned something last night about how Jeter said something along the lines of 'I don't understand what the big deal is - he didn't even get hit. How many times have I been hit?'. Derek is 100% correct, speaking as a player.

Tell you what. Let's get the old Flux Capacitor out and hop in the Delorean. Let's go back to the All-Star Game where Randy Johnson threw behind John Kruk twice and suspend him for a month. After all, he threw behind a guy twice - in an exhibition game.

The whole MLB front office is a joke, from the used car salesman on down. We're opening seasons in Japan and deciding World Series on a dopey All-Star Game. The Players Association leads Dollar-signs Selig around by the short hairs, leading to the steroid mess. Now they are getting into bed with Cansicko.

It's pathetic.

[Rice14]

it is a double standard, and next time we should actually hit Manny.

If he had just hit him in the back, maybe he wouldn't have been suspended.

I think they look at it differently when its around the head.

[Brooklyn Yankee Fan]

What a lovely double standard by Yankee fans. You WANTED Farnsworth to throw at Manny. You APPLAUDED it when he threw the ball behind his neck. Now you're upset that he's getting suspended. You can't have it both ways.

It's not even that, it's the fact that might get suspended, while Aardsma, who intentionally or not, hit A-Rod before Manny was thrown at, and will not get fined or suspended

This is pathetic.

[R.V.47]

It's not even that, it's the fact that might get suspended, while Aardsma, who intentionally or not, hit A-Rod before Manny was thrown at, and will not get fined or suspended

This is pathetic.

Michael Kay mentioned in last nights game that Manny even acknowledged the A-Rod beaning and said retribution should have been expected since he is our best hitter.