Updated stats.Originally Posted by 2/5 Augusta, Position: DH
Updated stats.
No double!? No hits!?
Cut him.
eh, he still scored. Give him another chance.
I'm surprised he hasn't cracked yet and given up, i mean he didn't get a hit last night. Should be ashamed.
The Southerners...
Kelvin DeLeon(RF), Abraham Almonte(CF), Jose Tabata(LF), Marcos Vechionacci(3B), Jose Pirela(SS), Prilys Cuello(2B), Raymond Nunez(1B), Jesus Montero(C), Carlos Urena(DH).
His first slump of the season. It's going to be interesting to see how he comes back from it.
Montero laughs at the suggestion of a slump.
On pace to hit about 15 homers this season.
"Owning the Yankees," Steinbrenner once said, "is like owning the Mona Lisa."
15 homers per game?
The Rajah of RehabŪ, The Sultan of Sitting, The Colossus of Cramps, The Behemoth of Butt bruises,
The Wali of Owies, The Maharajah of Massages...
Me likes.
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It would be ironic if the coaches have him "working on his walks", and he's not being as agressive now, getting into bad counts, and then swinging at bad pitches.
I know it's a real stretch, but the thought just crossed my mind.
We have enough youth.
How about a fountain of "smart"?
Positive that's not the case. At this age, at this high level for that age, if a kid is having some success they will absolutely not mess with him. In fact, if he is going to rake- and he is aggressive- they'll let that get him to the majors before even thinking about plate discipline outside of simple approach to at bats.
Yeah I'm sure you're right.
Like I said it was just a weird all of a sudden thought. What with all of the talk about him not taking pitches and such.
We have enough youth.
How about a fountain of "smart"?
Do you really think so? The major leagues is a hard schoolroom for hitters trying to learn to be more selective. Robby Cano is still having a tough time absorbing that lesson.
I think this is something that needs to happen on some scale before he reaches double-A ball. A hitter like Montero can be aggressive and patient, but it's not something that just happens. He has to learn it, and there'll be bumps on that road. If he reaches the major leagues without trying to work toward having a more disciplined approach, it's probably too late.
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They work on disc (as they call it) throughout the system. They also try to be patient while the players develop it. They actually have a rewards system.
That sounds like a solid general institutional policy of encouraging plate discipline. I'd expect individual players to get special attention and instruction on an as-needed basis from the coaching staff, and I'd expect that certain individualized, discipline-related performance goals are set for each as well.
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I think they also closely monitor the "quality" of K's. In other words are they falling for the same pitch every time (low and away Sori?) or are they taking lots of pitches and trying to both learn the strike zone and get the umps respect that they too know a strike from a ball.
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He starts walking. It may be a sign that pitchers are starting to pitch around him.
The injuries have taken some good bats out of the lineup, so pitching around him is a viable option now.
Now, whether he just takes his walks or tries to do too much by swinging at bad pitches will be interesting.
PP has added 12 new pics of Montero.
http://yankees.scout.com/a.z?s=303&p=8&c=1&nid=3681611
Montero walked plenty last year. Look at Ajax after his hot streak, the walks will come after he cools off a little.
Jesus = clutch
How about a 3-4 hitter combo one day of Eric Hosmer and Jesus in the middle of our lineup?
and how are the Yankees going to get Hosmer?
We do not see things as they are. We see them as we are.
It is never too late to be what you might have been.
Look at the difference in his arms between 06 07 and 08
Advantage Yankees
Mmmhhhmmmm... me likey.
32 - Cito Culver, SS, New York HS
82- Angelo Gumbs, CF, California HS
112- Rob Segedin, 3B, Tulane
145- Mason Williams, OF, Florida HS
175- Thomas Kahnle, RHP, Lynn University
He drops due to his 7-8M bonus demand?
32 - Cito Culver, SS, New York HS
82- Angelo Gumbs, CF, California HS
112- Rob Segedin, 3B, Tulane
145- Mason Williams, OF, Florida HS
175- Thomas Kahnle, RHP, Lynn University
Just over the past couple of years I thought that Andrew Miller, Rick Porcello, and Matt LaPorta would fall to the Yankees. I'm not getting my hopes up again.
He's a clown. Guy says he's from the 209, what the ................ is that?
-CC Sabathia on Dallas Braden
Since Montero had the day off, I'll just show his season stats head-to-head with Angel Villalona.
Montero: HR: 5, AVG: .326, OBP: .355, SLG: .514, OPS: .869
Villalona: HR: 2, AVG: .200, OBP: .270, SLG: .318, OPS: .589
Are you watching BA?
Here are also some pics of him this year:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2210/...08edb6fb_b.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2404/...aafe96ff_b.jpg
Honest question... not trying to troll... why are you guys so obsessed with Villalona? Because he was ranked higher than Montero? Or because they're always drawing comparisons? I mean, they're both teenagers, I wouldn't really make much of either of their statistics right now (especially since we're a month into the season). Montero's looking fearsome right now, but Villalona's what, 17? Montero's 18? Lay off a little...
Gotta admit, I'm a fan of the high socks, though.
Because Villalona's Baseball America's golden child, since he's a third baseman and Montero's gonna move to first anyway according to them (in actuality, that's not a given at this point). We're sick of them underrating Montero because they think he's a first baseman, while pumping up Villalona, who also has a chance of moving to first in the future.
Villalona's already moved to first.
They also called Montero lazy and a bust before he even played one professional game.
And just for the record; I wanted to sign Villalona badly and I hope he does make it, but right now Montero is clearly better than him. It's about time some woke up to it.
the reason we get on him is the lame answers we get when we ask for a comparison. it has nothing to do with villalona
even last year there is no reason to rank big-v over montero. even less so this year.
sitting there and telling someone that villalona is ~30 best prospect in baseball while montero misses the top 100 all together.
call it a hunch, but the analysts seem to underplay him due to the fact that they pretty much swept him under the rug after signing, and now they look foolish
"Montero hasn't delivered completely on his raw power, but he's close to projecting as an 80 hitter with 80 power on the 20-80 scouting scale"-BA
I like Villalona too and want him to be a Yankee. I think it's more about obsessed with BA than Villalona.
No, because Montero wasn't ranked at all.
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I think it was obvious of them of ranking Villalona (sp) higher than Montero for last year's performance. But I'll be looking forward to changed rankings sometime later
why?
the put up almost identical batting lines last year, but the AZL is more of a hitters environment and the GCL is more a pitchers environment. there tools are similar, thier hype and bonus numbers were similar (until the yankees reduced his bonus)
there is, and was, no excuse for villalona being ~#30 and montero not making it
"Montero hasn't delivered completely on his raw power, but he's close to projecting as an 80 hitter with 80 power on the 20-80 scouting scale"-BA
The interesting thing for Montero now, is how he performs from here on out.
He has more games and AB's than he had last year and with the temps rising. I expect him to get a little bit tired.
"Owning the Yankees," Steinbrenner once said, "is like owning the Mona Lisa."
Villalona is 9 months younger than Montero, which is significant. That said, Montero is totally outperforming him this season, while playing catcher (though most prospect lists don't expect him to stay there).
Right now those 9 months is the only advantage Villalona has on Montero and to me that's not that significant when you consider that Montero is absolutely dominating this year and totally outperforming Villalon. Villalona has already moved to 1B while Montero has shown significant improvement at C that makes many think there is at least a decent shot he could stick there. Defensively the one main reason everyone has for thinking Montero will have to move to a new position is his size. He has played very well behind the plate for Charleston.
Villalona is still a great prospect and we're not trying to knock him, but rather use him as an example for why Montero hasn't gotten the credit he deserves. If Villalona is a top 30 prospect you can't rationalize Montero being anything less than top 50 much less not included in the top 100. However I think the people over at BA will finally see that now. Although I may be giving them too much credit.
Those 9 months and a few hundred thousand dollars were all that separated Villalona from Montero in the beginning, but Montero looks like he's separating himself from Villalona with his performance now. I think BA and the other rankers put too much weight in the rumors that were swirling around Montero regarding his decreased bonus. If Montero can stay at catcher, he's head and shoulders above Villalona IMO.
Hey, fair enough. I was just a little confused at the vitriol towards Villalona here. It seemed like a lot of posters were rooting for his failure.
def not. i like him, i just thought the difference between the 2 was overstated by pretty much everyone.
"Montero hasn't delivered completely on his raw power, but he's close to projecting as an 80 hitter with 80 power on the 20-80 scouting scale"-BA
I'm fine with Villalona as well. The reason for my occasional jab were pretty much summed up by everyone else.
Now when he doesn't hit, he walks.
0-2 and 2 BB today.
its gonna be fun watching him in the futures game.
the world doesnt have too many good catching options, so id say there is a good chance he ends up playing in YS sooner than we all thought
"Montero hasn't delivered completely on his raw power, but he's close to projecting as an 80 hitter with 80 power on the 20-80 scouting scale"-BA
4 walks in his last 4 games.
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