06Mar2008: Yanks@Reds. Lou avoids Wang jokes

[Tifoso]

We win

Hi everyone.

Go Wang,

Go Yankees pitching, too!

[yanksphan]

Wang Harang today, no?

[Tifoso]

Yes, sir.

Hiya amico mio.

Where the heck is everybody?

[trappedinrsnation]

What are our coverage options today? Just the live box score?

[ARoDfan4life]

just got to my laptop

[roblyo33]

need pbp today.......who has the game??

[sweet_lou_14]

Yeah how do we follow along?

[Yankee Tripper]

no audio? that blows.

[sweet_lou_14]

According to Abraham, Wang was shelled in the 1st ... four runs.

[StantonFan]

Gameday link:

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/y2007...yamlb_cinmlb_1

[Rastven]

How can there be zero coverage in this day and age?

[Tifoso]

According to Abraham, Wang was shelled in the 1st ... four runs.

Really?

[Rastven]

According to Gameday they just yanked Wang, 2/3 IP 6 runs on 6 hits.
Teams from Ohio really hammer him no matter what time of year.

[RI Dawg]

Per MLB Gameday -- from what I can see -- Wang gave up 6 runs in the first inning and was just pulled for Scott Patterson.....

awesome

EDIT: Beat me too it Rastven!

[Tifoso]

Thankfully, Wang will be our #5 starter when Joba joins the rotation

EDIT: heck, even before he joins

[NYYfan24]

Yes, sir.

Hiya amico mio.

Where the heck is everybody?

Hi Lou...I'm here. However, after reading the score, I was much happier before.....you know, ignorance is bliss!

[YanksFan1992]

Wow, what the heck happened to Wang

Come on Yanks!

[Tifoso]

Hi, you two.

[Rastven]

I'm guessing Wang had no sink and/or no control.
The positive is farnsworth didn't stink too bad his first inning

[YanksFan1992]

Yankees are being shut out through 4, and Rasner is now in to pitch.

[yankeebot]

If a ST game is played and no one can see it or hear it, did it really happen?

[NYYfan24]

Not good. Any of the regulars in the line-up?

[JOBA RULES]

unreal. I've been saying ALL offseason..It's great we brought everyone back don't get me wrong...but WE DON'T HAVE A ACE!...Hopefully Phil can turn into that ace but right now we have no ace...Wangs a very good pitcher but hasnt really come up big in big spots...and I hope to god this isn't a preview of whats to come...

[YanksFan1992]

Not good. Any of the regulars in the line-up?

Right now it's:

Damon
Molina
Abreu
Giambi
Betemit
Austin Jackson
Gardner
Woodward
Gonzalez

Damon has 2 doubles and is the only Yankee who has gotten on base

[YanksFan1992]

unreal. I've been saying ALL offseason..It's great we brought everyone back don't get me wrong...but WE DON'T HAVE A ACE!...Hopefully Phil can turn into that ace but right now we have no ace...Wangs a very good pitcher but hasnt really come up big in big spots...and I hope to god this isn't a preview of whats to come...

It's one early spring training game, Wang's not doomed just yet.

[JOBA RULES]

It's one early spring training game, Wang's not doomed just yet.

nah I know that....don't get me wrong I like Wang I think he's a very good pitcher...but he's not that stopper we need...

[YanksFan1992]

Oh sweet Jesus, a grand slam for Encarnacion and it is 10-0 Reds through 4...

[Yankee Fan in Boston]

Wangs a very good pitcher but hasnt really come up big in big spots...

Like the first week of Spring Training games... We really needed this one.

[Posada_20]

Edwin Encarnacion just hit a grand slam off Rasner. 10-0 Reds now. What's that song from Idol a couple of years ago when a contestant was eliminated?"You had a bad day"

[Yankee Fan in Boston]

nah I know that....don't get me wrong I like Wang I think he's a very good pitcher...but he's not that stopper we need...

OK, just saw this post... I don't disagree -- I'd love it if he was our #3 -- but it kills me when people act like he is useless.

[YanksFan1992]

Yankees go down 1,2,3 in the fifth. Damon is still the only Yankee to get on base.

[surge511]

OK, just saw this post... I don't disagree -- I'd love it if he was our #3 -- but it kills me when people act like he is useless.

I think everyone would love to have Wang as their number 3 - however, there aren't too many teams in baseball that have a good enough pitcher to make Wang their number 2 (including us).

[JOBA RULES]

Like the first week of Spring Training games... We really needed this one.

No like the postseason games where the other teams ace out pitched Wang...

[hardrain]

just dropping in to say "Don't Panic"

[MTYankee23]

There's actually a good number of teams in major league baseball that would probably like to have CMW as their #1. People look at the ALDS last year and forget that any pitcher can lose his command for a week at any given time.

[Tifoso]

just dropping in to say "Don't Panic"

Phiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiil

[MTYankee23]

No like the postseason games where the other teams ace out pitched Wang...

Which in his 3 seasons, has only happened in one of them.

[JOBA RULES]

I'm not forgetting Wang won 19 games for us and was our most stable starter...but seems like the big games he gets flustered and doesnt throw his best....I mean even in the reg season when it was him vs beckett going for the cy young he had a less then stellar outing....no1s saying he's useless I just dont think he's a stopper...It is only ST I'm sure he will turn it around and hopefully be a 18 or 19 game winner...lets see what happens....it's March

[JOBA RULES]

Which in his 3 seasons, has only happened in one of them.

Wangs postseason ERA is 7.58....come on

[aeromac76]

Wangs postseason ERA is 7.58....come on

Most of that is from last year, the two years before, he won us our only game in each of those series..

He was awful last year, but as they say &*^%^ happens..
I have no problem with him on the hill for a big game. But like anyone else, if he does not have it, then C'est La Vie..

[JOBA RULES]

Most of that is from last year, the two years before, he won us our only game in each of those series..

He was awful last year, but as they say &*^%^ happens..
I have no problem with him on the hill for a big game. But like anyone else, if he does not have it, then C'est La Vie..

Yeah I guess so...I don't mind him on the hill either I just don't think he's that solid stud ace just yet....1-3 record in the playoffs isn't ace work..but wangs young and we need his wins more then ever this year

[MTYankee23]

Wangs postseason ERA is 7.58....come on

He's only had 4 postseason starts. And the two bad ones happened within 4 days of each other.

So in his first 2 posteason starts he had a 2.75 ERA.

He was awful last postseason, but that was over the course of 2 starts in 5 days. That can happen to anyone. Especially an extreme groundball pitcher.

[aeromac76]

Yeah I guess so...I don't mind him on the hill either I just don't think he's that solid stud ace just yet....1-3 record in the playoffs isn't ace work..but wangs young and we need his wins more then ever this year

I thought his playoff record was 2-2, not 1-3??

[JOBA RULES]

He's only had 4 postseason starts. And the two bad ones happened within 4 days of each other.

So in his first 2 posteason starts he had a 2.75 ERA.

He was awful last postseason, but that was over the course of 2 starts in 5 days. That can happen to anyone. Especially an extreme groundball pitcher.

Thats the thing, the fact he's a ground ball picther if that sinker isn't working man its not going to be pretty....even if those starts were 5 days apart I still counted on him to do something...I know it was on limited rest, I'm not trying to bash Wang at all he's our most reliable starter right now

[JOBA RULES]

I thought his playoff record was 2-2, not 1-3??

I thought the same thing but when I looked at MLB.com...

2005 New York Yankees 0 1 1.35 1 1 0 0 0 0 6.2 6 4 1 1 1 0 1 2006 New York Yankees 1 0 4.05 1 1 0 0 0 0 6.2 8 3 3 1 0 1 4 2007 New York Yankees 0 2 19.06 2 2 0 0 0 0 5.2 14 12 12 3 2 4 2 Career Totals 1 3 7.58 4 4 0 0 0 0 19.0 28 19 16 5 3 5 7

[Tifoso]

I thought the same thing but when I looked at MLB.com...

2005 New York Yankees 0 1 1.35 1 1 0 0 0 0 6.2 6 4 1 1 1 0 1 2006 New York Yankees 1 0 4.05 1 1 0 0 0 0 6.2 8 3 3 1 0 1 4 2007 New York Yankees 0 2 19.06 2 2 0 0 0 0 5.2 14 12 12 3 2 4 2 Career Totals 1 3 7.58 4 4 0 0 0 0 19.0 28 19 16 5 3 5 7

His next set of ERA's should be 79, then

[hardrain]

Karstens moves closer to making the team

[MTYankee23]

Thats the thing, the fact he's a ground ball picther if that sinker isn't working man its not going to be pretty....even if those starts were 5 days apart I still counted on him to do something...I know it was on limited rest, I'm not trying to bash Wang at all he's our most reliable starter right now

The good thing is, it most often is working. I think we're all just a little gun shy with him since his last postseason performance was his worst. The 1-3 record really doesn't mean all that much when you consider that in one of those losses, he allowed 1 ER.

Not only is he our most reliable starter, for the time being, he's our best starter.

[JOBA RULES]

I def. agree with that...hopefully Phil can challenge him for that spot this year

[Cheesyhoboe]

Traber has been lights out in ST so far. Also, I wish we got to see more of Patterson.