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    Cody Ransom is going to be a great hitter !! His batting stance looks just like Arod's
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    Quote Originally Posted by frostdude1
    Cody Ransom is going to be a great hitter !! His batting stance looks just like Arod's
    We really didn't need to resign A-Rod after all.
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    K just found out he's in his 30's lol
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    minor league games are rained out today

    oh crap, i hope the guys at PP don't sue me for giving that info out
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    Quote Originally Posted by flymick24
    minor league games are rained out today

    oh crap, i hope the guys at PP don't sue me for giving that info out
    Chad Jennings has a subpoena waiting for you.
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    LMAO @ this reasoning by Callis...

    Mike R. (San Juan, PR): Why doesn't Jesus Montero get more love?

    SportsNation Jim Callis: (2:49 PM ET ) He gets love. But you have to remember he's still very young, still hasn't played above complex ball and still hasn't proven he's a catcher.

    Since when did being young, not playing above rookie ball stop BA from giving enormous love to players? As far as Montero staying at catcher, it's also hardly a given that a guy like Oscar Tejada stays at SS, or Villalona at 3B, which since he's moved to 1B! Pathetic, Callis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by albo4lyfe
    LMAO @ this reasoning by Callis...

    Mike R. (San Juan, PR): Why doesn't Jesus Montero get more love?

    SportsNation Jim Callis: (2:49 PM ET ) He gets love. But you have to remember he's still very young, still hasn't played above complex ball and still hasn't proven he's a catcher.

    Since when did being young, not playing above rookie ball stop BA from giving enormous love to players? As far as Montero staying at catcher, it's also hardly a given that a guy like Oscar Tejada stays at SS, or Villalona at 3B, which since he's moved to 1B! Pathetic, Callis.
    That exchange does raise an interesting question, though: If Montero can't stick at catcher (and, rightly or wrongly, this is the conventional wisdom on him), where does he go? Where else do you see him playing? 3B? 1B? LF?
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    Quote Originally Posted by YASS
    That exchange does raise an interesting question, though: If Montero can't stick at catcher (and, rightly or wrongly, this is the conventional wisdom on him), where does he go? Where else do you see him playing? 3B? 1B? LF?
    I'd see him at 1B. If him & Romine play to their capabilities, I'd be fine with Montero manning first while Romine is behind the plate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YASS
    That exchange does raise an interesting question, though: If Montero can't stick at catcher (and, rightly or wrongly, this is the conventional wisdom on him), where does he go? Where else do you see him playing? 3B? 1B? LF?
    1B-DH, he is a S-L-O-W runner.
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    1B-DH, he is a S-L-O-W runner.
    1B/DH for Montero in the future . BTW Callis just sucks so much . I can't believe he gets a salary for the verbal diarrhea he spits out .

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    Montero's stance is kinda weird. If he's in the majors 10 years from now, you guys think he has the same stance?

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    Quote Originally Posted by indianyanksfan
    wait so is patterson really injured or not? i'm confused.
    Yes. Broken left foot, the foot is in a boot, not a cast. Expected to be out 4 to 6 weeks. Evidently, coming off the mound right where the mound dirt goes to grass, an awkward step/or landing of his left foot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NY_GOLDENARMS
    1B-DH, he is a S-L-O-W runner.
    He has a gun and supposedly pretty good hands if I remember right. Would be a shame if he had to DH.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BennyTheJetRodriguez
    He has a gun and supposedly pretty good hands if I remember right. Would be a shame if he had to DH.
    It would be and I still hope he can stay at catcher. I just can't think of many catchers that became anything but barely adequate at converting to 1st base.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YASS
    That exchange does raise an interesting question, though: If Montero can't stick at catcher (and, rightly or wrongly, this is the conventional wisdom on him), where does he go? Where else do you see him playing? 3B? 1B? LF?
    Probably 1B. However, they showered Villalona with nothing but praise and it was a huge question whether or not he would remain at 3B. On the other hand, they don't really talk about Montero when talking about top, young spects. Montero at least has good athleticism to possibly remain at C, Villalona was just a fat kid and it didn't take long to move him to 1B.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CallOfTheCrow
    People post little things from PP all the time, never seen anyone make an issue of it before. It seems a little unnecessary but whatever, I deleted what I posted & that sh*t won't happen again.
    I never seen anyone complain before either. But I've always tried to respect the fact that the dude is trying to make a living.

    It's hard not to want to pass on good info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by budstinks
    I never seen anyone complain before either. But I've always tried to respect the fact that the dude is trying to make a living.

    It's hard not to want to pass on good info.
    Yeah that's why I'm not going to be posting things anymore. Wouldn't have minded a heads up from other people that it's frowned upon. Now I have my very own thread on PP lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by YASS
    That exchange does raise an interesting question, though: If Montero can't stick at catcher (and, rightly or wrongly, this is the conventional wisdom on him), where does he go? Where else do you see him playing? 3B? 1B? LF?
    In three years A Rod should be ready for 1 Base. He is a below average fielder now. That's a lot of money tied up with the big quartet and diminishing returns. Will Jeter take a pay cut?

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    Quote Originally Posted by boday
    In three years A Rod should be ready for 1 Base. He is a below average fielder now. That's a lot of money tied up with the big quartet and diminishing returns. Will Jeter take a pay cut?
    He'll be 36 when his current contract ends in '10. I think it's safe to say he won't be extended or resigned at his current salary level. He'll still make a lot of money, but there'll be some savings there.
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    Jeter will sign with Tampa for 2011 as the Yankees with have no room for him imho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dan66
    Jeter will sign with Tampa for 2011 as the Yankees with have no room for him imho.
    Tampa won't be able to afford him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boday
    In three years A Rod should be ready for 1 Base. He is a below average fielder now. That's a lot of money tied up with the big quartet and diminishing returns. Will Jeter take a pay cut?
    Where'd you get that from? A-Rod isn't the greatest defender at 3B but he's very capable.
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    Defense
    Lost in the monstrous season by Rodriguez offensively was the fact that he played much better defense as well. He ended the season a smidgen above average by zone rating, but he was actually pretty solidly above average most of the season. On July 23 Rodriguez's zone rating was .821 compared to the AL average of .765 and he had made around 14 plays more than an average AL 3B, which was roughly equivalent to saving 11 runs above average to that point and 19 runs over 162 games. Over the remaining 57 games Rodriguez's zone rating was only .669 and he made somewhere around 11 plays fewer than average. To my eyes he didn't seem to play any worse in the second half although he made 7 errors over 130 chances as opposed to 6 errors over his first 240 chances, so he may have just faced harder opportunities. Still, overall it was a nice rebound after a couple of pretty bad defensive seasons.

    Year Pos GP Innings PO A E DP PM CH ZR PMAA RSAA RSAA/162
    2004 3B 155 1364 100 262 13 25 286 364 .786 14 11 12
    2005 3B 161 1385 115 288 12 26 321 436 .736 -15 -12 -13
    2006 3B 151 1288 96 262 24 24 289 390 .741 -10 -8 -9
    2007 3B 154 1330 106 251 13 30 283 370 .765 2 1 1
    Projection 155 1334 104 262 16 27 292 387 .755 -4 -3 -4

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    I was shocked as well, Ensberg is better defensively then A Rod.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dan66
    Jeter will sign with Tampa for 2011 as the Yankees with have no room for him imho.
    Jeter isn't going anywhere ... he'll be a Yankee for life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeter62375
    Jeter isn't going anywhere ... he'll be a Yankee for life.
    Probably true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by albo4lyfe
    LMAO @ this reasoning by Callis...

    Mike R. (San Juan, PR): Why doesn't Jesus Montero get more love?

    SportsNation Jim Callis: (2:49 PM ET ) He gets love. But you have to remember he's still very young, still hasn't played above complex ball and still hasn't proven he's a catcher.

    Since when did being young, not playing above rookie ball stop BA from giving enormous love to players? As far as Montero staying at catcher, it's also hardly a given that a guy like Oscar Tejada stays at SS, or Villalona at 3B, which since he's moved to 1B! Pathetic, Callis.
    Yeah, he's far away from the majors. Who cares about his potential. Except in some special cases.

    Like Lars Anderson. I mean he's years away but he keeps popping up as the best 1B prospect in the minors when Callis is the one being asked.

    Oh wait.....forgot. It's Callis.

    (I do think he knows what he's talking about, but he's rather bad at removing the sox colored glasses when discussing Boston's farm system)
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    No offense, but Lars' 124 games in A-ball are not really comparable to Montero's 33 in the GCL. Whether or not Callis overrates him remains to be seen, but there's clearly more to go on with Anderson at this point.

    Also, pardon my ignorance, but what's the problem with posting game reports here? These games are open to the public, so it's not proprietary information, right? I assume the "ban" is up once the season begins?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ngruz25
    No offense, but Lars' 124 games in A-ball are not really comparable to Montero's 33 in the GCL. Whether or not Callis overrates him remains to be seen, but there's clearly more to go on with Anderson at this point.
    Review the facts. Callis was all up in Anderson's taint before he had even played a professional game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snatch Catch
    Review the facts. Callis was all up in Anderson's taint before he had even played a professional game.
    Granted, but ... objectively, is he wrong now about Montero now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by YASS
    Granted, but ... objectively, is he wrong now about Montero now?
    My issue with it is that he is willing to be all over guys like Anderson and V (two guys who are predestined to be 1B) before they even play an inning professionally, yet he has this major issue with doing anything even close with Montero mostly because...he's might eventually be a firstbaseman.

    It just doesn't add up. Even after Montero has shown two of the most encouraging traits found in young power hitters: Plate discipline and the ability to loft the ball to the opposite field, Callis is still hedging.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ngruz25
    No offense, but Lars' 124 games in A-ball are not really comparable to Montero's 33 in the GCL. Whether or not Callis overrates him remains to be seen, but there's clearly more to go on with Anderson at this point.

    Also, pardon my ignorance, but what's the problem with posting game reports here? These games are open to the public, so it's not proprietary information, right? I assume the "ban" is up once the season begins?


    this is my problem as well.



    why does PP care if someone gives up linescores for the players. anyone who goes down there can report the same thing. we arent stealing anything from them that wouldnt ben known elsewhere.


    the scouting stuff and articles, sure, no one should be posting it here. but linescores? come on
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snatch Catch
    My issue with it is that he is willing to be all over guys like Anderson and V (two guys who are predestined to be 1B) before they even play an inning professionally, yet he has this major issue with doing anything even close with Montero mostly because...he's might eventually be a firstbaseman.

    It just doesn't add up. Even after Montero has shown two of the most encouraging traits found in young power hitters: Plate discipline and the ability to loft the ball to the opposite field, Callis is still hedging.

    exactly. ive been making this argument for a while. i dont know if i could say anything better



    there is nothing in thier scouting reports/numbers tham makes V and Lars top 40 guys and montero nowhere
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snatch Catch
    Review the facts. Callis was all up in Anderson's taint before he had even played a professional game.
    Well, to be fair, Lars is a Redsox prospect. I mean, they are the smartest organization this side of the Patriots and Larry's Birds Celtics. And Lars does hav 35 glorious ab's at A+.

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    Quote Originally Posted by budstinks
    Well, to be fair, Lars is a Redsox prospect. I mean, they are the smartest organization this side of the Patriots and Larry's Birds Celtics. And Lars does hav 35 glorious ab's at A+.
    They were pretty spectacular ....

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    Chad Jennings' blog:

    http://emedia.thetimes-tribune.com/B...2/Default.aspx

    "As for the guys who did play the Triple-A game, Alan Horne started and was incredible. If that seems like a strong word, then I used the right one...Best I've seen a pitcher look this spring."

    Some more stuff there. Great stuff.

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    I think all the PP boys are boycotting this thread.

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    Montero hit a line-drive home run to left-centerfield today after hitting 8 in the cages before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by a yankeesfan
    Chad Jennings' blog:

    http://emedia.thetimes-tribune.com/B...2/Default.aspx

    "As for the guys who did play the Triple-A game, Alan Horne started and was incredible. If that seems like a strong word, then I used the right one...Best I've seen a pitcher look this spring."

    Some more stuff there. Great stuff.
    Nice! I am sure Horne will make an impact with the big team this year , and it's also good to hear JB was throwing his second inning of the spring .

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmxstreetrider86
    this is my problem as well.



    why does PP care if someone gives up linescores for the players. anyone who goes down there can report the same thing. we arent stealing anything from them that wouldnt ben known elsewhere.


    the scouting stuff and articles, sure, no one should be posting it here. but linescores? come on
    you are correct anyone can go down there and what and report for free here what happened. but no one does.

    patrick and the scout.com network pay for him to go down there and report what is happening. that stuff should remain on PP.

    if someone wants to go to tampa and sit next to patrick all day and then come back here and report the same thing for free they are more than welcome.

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    agreed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tabata
    Montero hit a line-drive home run to left-centerfield today after hitting 8 in the cages before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tabata
    Montero hit a line-drive home run to left-centerfield today after hitting 8 in the cages before.
    That is neat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BomberBrian
    you are correct anyone can go down there and what and report for free here what happened. but no one does.

    patrick and the scout.com network pay for him to go down there and report what is happening. that stuff should remain on PP.

    if someone wants to go to tampa and sit next to patrick all day and then come back here and report the same thing for free they are more than welcome.

    im sure getting the box scores is part of it, but there is no need to protect the linescores as if they are his intellectual properties like his other articles.


    and i certainly have no problem with patrick protecting his stories, scouting reports etc., i just don't think that linescores are something that needs to be protected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bmxstreetrider86
    im sure getting the box scores is part of it, but there is no need to protect the linescores as if they are his intellectual properties like his other articles.


    and i certainly have no problem with patrick protecting his stories, scouting reports etc., i just don't think that linescores are something that needs to be protected.
    Nobody is reporting the linescores of these minor league spring training games and Patrick was the one keeping a scorecard at this game so he could report those numbers to his site.

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    i dont think you get it, hes not protecting line scores

    Giving out a small (single) snippet with a link to the article isn't a problem. It's when you're giving out several snippets from the same article is where we start running into problems.

    Saying "Betances pitched three scoreless innings today" with a link and leaving it at that isn't a problem. But when you start getting into giving away detailed information:

    Betances struck out three, was sitting 92-94; Vizcaino was sitting 91-90, struck out three and was sitting 90-91; Garcia struck out three in his inning, was sitting 90-91 MPH, and also got a ground ball because of a passed ball; Montero went 2-3 with a double and a 2-run home run.....etc, etc, etc....
    it's really not that complicated

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skars
    i dont think you get it, hes not protecting line scores



    it's really not that complicated

    really?


    Quote Originally Posted by bmxstreetrider86
    why does PP care if someone gives up linescores for the players.

    the scouting stuff and articles, sure, no one should be posting it here

    that was my point, and i certainly stated that scouting stuff (like velocity etc.) and stuff from his stories should be off limits
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    Does this guy bring his own gun, too? Or does he rely on scouts' guns? Actually, is he a trained scout?

    Seems like a pretty good gig, I wish I was getting paid to watch baseball all day. Then again, a scout has a pretty grueling life, so maybe not.

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    Montero seems to be hitting a homerun in every game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by a yankeesfan
    Montero seems to be hitting a homerun in every game.
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