looks like a done deal....
The Nets have agreed in principle to send Jason Kidd to the Mavericks, although final trade details are being worked out. The proposed swap would send Devin Harris, Jerry Stackhouse and other players plus cash to New Jersey.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3244102
I don't know how that cry baby has been able to get away with a career of forcing trades. I hope the Mavs miss the playoffs!
He's a loser. He knows how to flip the switch from playmaker to team cancer as soon as things get a little tough. And the stunt his agent pulled where he was going to "steer other clients away from the Nets" if they traded Kidd to a losing team was pathetic.Originally Posted by The Straw
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Good deal for the Nets. Harris is very good, Mavs definitely overpaid.
And Jason Kidd goes back to where his career started: Dallas. Skanks for the memories Kidd.
I only casually follow the Nets but it looks like a good deal to me. Plus they get a couple of first round picks, and in a seperate deal with Dallas they are getting a future 2nd rounder. Hopefully they get draft well and improve the team.
New York Yankees: 27 Time World Series Champions!
Not counting this year, The nets have dominated the Knicks with Kidd, so good riddance!
Rich
In two years, the Lakers and the Trail Blazers are going to be the top two teams in the Western Conference.
Tar Heel North! Jerry Stackhouse and Vince Carter on the same team!
EDIT: Chapel Hill North!
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I heard something about a buy-out for Stackhouse?
As a Nets fan, I wish Kidd the best of luck. He took my team to the Championships twice, and was a class act during his entire stay here -- even despite his personal problems. He also played hard while this whole thing was going on and never dogged it on the court. I hope he gets his championship some day, because he's the best pure point guard I have ever seen. It's too bad the Nets never recovered after losing K-Mart and Kittles, both of whom fed off J-Kidd. It was time for Kidd to go, and hopefully the Nets got some good players in return that will help them in the future.
I agree. I'm excited about this teams future though: Harris, RJ, Sean Williams, Boone, and Marcus Williams are all young and talented. Plus the draft picks will be huge benefits.
Yeh, ESPN said that the Nets are supposed to buy him out, then he sits for 30 days until he can sign with Dallas. He even said he will enjoy the 30 days to rest up for the rest of the year.
I don't follow the Nets much with school and hockey going on and soon to be baseball...any chance they are trading a guy like Carter or Jefferson to help rebuild? Sorry, I'm a little out of the loop with the NBA right now.
New York Yankees: 27 Time World Series Champions!
Nets don't need Kidd to dominate the Knicks. The other 28 teams seem to do fine against them without Kidd.....
The Nets are 0-3 against the Knicks this year. The Knicks don't need Kidd on the Nets to dominate them.
238 more runs to score 1000.
2010 GT record: 8-5 (including two near no-hitters)
I think the Nets are at least going in the right direction
Now they need to dump Vin-sanity. The future does look bright, and I like Frank as the coach
I can't say the same thing for the Knicks - not until they fire Thomas and bring in someone like Colangelo as GM
I guess not. Isiah's doing a hell of a job.
(And what is the head-to-head record over the past 5 years?)
So now what happens with Marcus Williams?
Good luck moving Carter... He has zero motivation these days, outside of a scoring outburst here and there. He got his contract and now is content on going through the motions. It's depressing to watch.
I was being facetious. I know the Knicks have been killed by the Nets the last few years.
238 more runs to score 1000.
2010 GT record: 8-5 (including two near no-hitters)
There was that whole migraine incident where he didn't play, but I don't know the whole story behind it. I do know that his effort was always there while he was on the court, and he made everyone on his team a better player. I also know that my team was a complete joke before he showed up, and he helped give it credibility and made going to the games a lot of fun. So no hard feelings here.
(As an aside, I actually remember not liking the trade when the Nets got him for Marbury. I thought they needed a scorer and that Kidd didn't have enough guys surrounding him for the type of point guard he is. Damn, I'm glad I was 100% wrong.)
Ian Eagle just reported that there is a snag in the Kidd trade, which is why they haven't announced it yet - Devean George has exercised his no-trade clause.
hahahaha... how was Devean George given the ability to block a trade?
He's got the 3 rings, he does what he wants!
LOL at Devean George having a NTC.
Haha, they just talked about this in the Knicks game. Hilarious.
238 more runs to score 1000.
2010 GT record: 8-5 (including two near no-hitters)
OVER MY DEAD BODY!
Buffalo Bills 2010 "Oh"-Line
Well, he's 0-5 so far in the Dallas game (and 0-2 from the line), so good to see he's put it behind him and is his normal self
That sucks for the Nets, I was looking forward to seeing them rebuild. Hopefully they can work out a deal for Kidd still. It stupid that a guy on a one year deal with the year nearly over is nixing this.
New York Yankees: 27 Time World Series Champions!
It's not a NTC. Bird rights.
What are the chances Devean George gets another start before the trade deadline?
0-11 for the game in 33 minutes... lays a gooseegg in the process by going 0-2 from the line. This game was IN DALLAS too...
Devan George still a Laker at heart ahh i love it
If i had one wish it would be the Red Sox would never win another Championship.
-Patrick Sean
How the hell does Deavan George have a NTC?
Surely he can't stop this deal. They HAVE to get it done.
hahahaha you can't make that stuff up, thats ABSURD. Just a day in the life of Devean George0-11 for the game in 33 minutes... lays a gooseegg in the process by going 0-2 from the line. This game was IN DALLAS too...
He doesn't, its special "Early Bird Rights" that are given to players with 1 year deals in special situations, very odd, read about it:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3244818
Had this been a playoff game, or this prevents Kidd from coming to the Mavs, this would rank up there with Tom Glavine self destructing on the Mets to lose their playoff berth, and Ramiro Mendoza's entire time on the Sox as the top undercover athlete moments of all time. We can only hope George doesn't accept the trade so he can continue to poison the Mavs playoff hopes.
I don't follow the NBA so can someone explain to me what's so great about Jason Kidd? Is he one of the best players of all time? Of his time? It seems like he's way over-hyped and has been his whole career. Of course I could be totally wrong as I've watched maybe 2 NBA games start to finish since the Knicks-Heat brawl with Van Gundy.
If you haven't paid any attention, how can you say Kidd's been over-hyped?
Jason Kidd is one of the best point guards of all-time. He has an all-around game, and does what a point guard should do: he runs the floor, is probably the best passer in the NBA, and makes his teammates better. He is also a hell of a rebounder, and I think he's something like second place in career triple-doubles. Before he came to the Nets, the Nets had something like 20 wins. In Kidd's first two seasons in NJ, they went to the NBA Finals.
I would actually go so far as to say Kidd is under-hyped. Why? Because he is not a high scorer, but instead is one of the most fundamentally sound players in the league.
He's also very patient, especially when running the fast break. A lot of point guards in the league will give up their dribble too early or pass it off before their teammate is in an ideal positin to score. Sounds pretty basic but it's not - Jamal Crawford was leading a 3 on 1 fast break the other game with Eddy Curry and someone else. Around the free throw line, he dished it back to Curry who was at the free throw line extended coming in from the right side - Curry ended up losing the ball when he tried to dribble it in and dunk it. Kidd would never have given the ball up that early, knowing that his teammate wasn't a good ball handler.
He's also a great defender and plays the passing lanes well. If you need some buckets, he can also post up guards. No he is not a great shooter, but he's much better than he was back in the day.
Agree completely. Not only patient, but smart. Kidd lost his best fast-break partner when Kittles left. Kittles either scored or was fouled virtually every time he was on the break. Awesome finisher.
That's probably it. All I know is what I see on SportsCenter. And they're all about points and offense. Also, all I really remember was him beating his wife.
So, I heard Carter is getting traded also is that true.
He's missing the shooting fundamental this year, though (jesus, 36% shooting? That is really bad), and his turnovers have gone up. He's not the player he used to be, at this point I think he's transitioning from the underhyped to the overhyped part of his career
Doubt it, he's supposed to be the Big Draw when the Nets move to Brooklyn. I don't understand the move personally. It's always going to be a Knick Town, regardless of the current state of that franchise. Screw the Nets.
We'll see. I'm still holding out hope Ratner changes plans and joins the Devils at the Rock. Don't know if I could root for the "Brooklyn Nets" (even if they are originally from Long Island). I do know that I will never root for the Knicks.
He really should. This whole Brooklynettes thing is a bad idea. With The Rock in place, it makes perfect sense.
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My problem with Kidd is that he seems to always bail out on his team when times get tough.
Things werent going well in Dallas?? I demand a trade. Phoenix was going downhill? Get me outta here. NJ is about to rebuild? Send me to a contender now.
He comes across as one of those guys who feels he is always "entitled" to play on a team that is a winner....things are fine when the team he is on win games, but when things go sour---he jumps off the ship.
Jesus Montero since June 1 (286 at-bats):
.325/.386/.605/.991
July 1 (182 at-bats):
.348/.417/.658/1.075
Isn't the "Barclays Center" still be held up trying to get approval?
I know many friends who are Nets fans who won't root for the "Brooklyn Nets" or "New York Nets", however they decide to rebrand themselves. I think moving to Newark is their best option.
238 more runs to score 1000.
2010 GT record: 8-5 (including two near no-hitters)
why was George honestly given a NTC...
Phil Hughes is a starter!
Turns out it wasn't a NTC. It was an Early Bird clause.
Buffalo Bills 2010 "Oh"-Line
George continues to cockblock...I wonder if another team swoops in and tries to make something happen.
Devean George, Mavericks' swingman and center of controversy, is not backing down from his refusal to be traded to the Nets as part of the Jason Kidd deal.
George seems perfectly content to stay put and let the Mavericks and Nets work around him to get the deal done. Negotiations are ongoing, but there might not be much progress for a day or two. Feb. 14 - 7:31 pm et
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