Originally Posted by Tabata
Holy smoke! You mean......there may be another member of the Aussie cricket team with a bit of sportsmanship in his blood?
Originally Posted by Tabata
Holy smoke! You mean......there may be another member of the Aussie cricket team with a bit of sportsmanship in his blood?
Lee is quite a singer too
Sangakarra made it close, though, eh? Tabata - a few nervous flutters now and then?
One of the most nicest parts (for me) during the now completed Australia/Sri Lanka series was to hear the dulcet, inimitable tones of the great Richie Benaud. Does Richie still commentate on a full-time basis for Channel 9, Tabata? Now that "Sky" has total monopoly on cricket coverage for this country, sadly we don't get Richie's unique brand of commentary any longer. Doesn't seem the same somehow because he certainly became one of the "voices of cricket" in this part of the world because of his very long association with the BBC and later with Channel 4.
gdn, I was watching part of the last of the ODI series between India and Pakistan when one of the the commentators mentioned that the match was being televised in the USA by "Directv". I know you said that "Directv" is expensive, but how expensive is expensive? Do you have to go pay-per-view or something, rather than cricket being available as part of an overall sports package? I am pleased to say that ppv is very restricted in this country, and now is usually only applicable to the likes of boxing and WWF (is that officially a sport?).
I can jump in and answer the Benaud Q - He does the David Gower role - main host for cricket and full-time commentator. He signed a new three-year deal in 2005 with channel nine and will be there until he decides to leave. I fully expect him to return to England in time for the 2010 season when the BBC are planning to buy back all the rights.
Cheers, Blokee, that's very interesting. Maybe I have been asleep, given the amount of cricket I've been watching lately, but surely "Sky" will be in there throwing huge amounts of money around, which the BBC will never be able to match, when the television rights come up for bidding again in 2009. The only way the BBC is going to get its hands on test cricket in this country again, as far as I can see, is if the Government steps in and declares that home test test cricket matches should be restored to "crown jewel" status and therefore handed back to terrestrial television in the shape of "The Beeb" or Channel 4.Originally Posted by Blokee
Not really to be honest. It was a great innings by him but when he went out they were still 143 runs behind and I knew when Sangakarra went out, Muralitharan wouldn't last long with the way he bats.Originally Posted by gdn
It was a great day of cricket all around for me yesterday. Not only did Australia win, but my Bushrangers set a new record in the Pura Cup in Brisbane.
On Benaud - yes he still does commentary. He is one of the voices on the cricket game I play. Due to the constraints of the game, it is the same 20 statements over and over again. Gets a little annoying.Originally Posted by Nashwan
On DirecTV - it is about $150ish for a package, I think. That's pretty expensive. I'd pay for it too, except my apartment doesn't have a direct line of sight to the sky (there's a huge tree in the back yard), so I can't use DirecTV and it isn't offered on cable (a tragedy).
Wow, Victoria ended up crushing Queensland by 276 runs in that Pura Cup game. What a turn around! They were 228 runs behind when they started their 2nd innings. What a funny game cricket is. Go Bushrangers
I take it that that is $150 per month? Yes, that would be a tad expensive, to be fair, because package I subscribe to with "Sky" works out to about $90 a month. Coincidentally, I had a whacking big tree at the bottom of my garden some years ago but when I discovered that there was no cable facility in the neighbourhood, I waved an impromptu goodbye to the tree!!Originally Posted by gdn
Whatever happened to the good, old Sheffield Shield?Originally Posted by Tabata
Went years ago, Nash. Even all the way back to 2000 I think.Originally Posted by Nashwan
Well as part of my job I have to deal with television and radio people etc... and I understand the BBC are very serious about bringing Test Cricket back to the channel and the ECB know that they made a mistake awarding the rights to a non-terrestrial station.Originally Posted by Nashwan
I hate to be a pessimist, but unless "Sky" suddenly loses interest in cricket - and I don't see that happening any time soon - I can't see the BBC outbidding them for the television rights.Originally Posted by Blokee
Last edited by Nashwan; 11-21-07 at 07:39 AM.
No, it is $150 per package - so for one series it is $150. If there are a greater number of tests and one-dayers, then the price goes up.Originally Posted by Nashwan
Originally Posted by gdn
That does seem to be ridiculously expensive for armchair viewing, I must say. I don't begrudge a penny of the $90 subscription to "Sky" each month because they provide sport from all around the world, during each month of the year, for what I consider to be a reasonable price. As you know, I am particularly partial to watching cricket from the southern hemisphere during our bleak winter months. That being the case, I shall tune in at 4.00 a.m. GMT tomorrow morning, to catch the first couple of hours play of the first test between India and Pakistan before I set off for work. I'll certainly spare you a thought as I am sitting watching the cricket whilst tucking into a bowl of "Rice Krispies"!!
Great avatar gdm
Well, I found a website that allows me to view the match. Perhaps. Let's hope it works tomorrowOriginally Posted by Nashwan
That match makes me cry man...what a tragedy. Klusener was unbelievable during the World Cup... all went to naught because stupid Allan Donald forgot to run.Originally Posted by Tabata
I'll say a prayer for you!Originally Posted by gdn
I still can't believe I didn't get to watch that game live.Originally Posted by gdn
Nor can I...but I still think that the lower bid will win...Originally Posted by Nashwan
Originally Posted by Blokee
That will a first, then: money doesn't talk! Don't see it happening myself and I guess we'll have to wait a while to find out.
Excellent morning session for the Indian team on Day 1 of the First Test in Delhi. Pakistan won the toss and decided to bat on what looks like a pretty slow pitch with uneven bounce and struggled to reach 74-3 at the break. Some good bowling by the home team but Pakistan didn't show a lot of ambition. Incidentally, I know that India is well off with batsmen, gdn, but what do you think lies behind the decision to omit Youvraj Singh, who is in the form of his life, from the Indian team?
Nashwan, I think it's just a question of no room! The openers are "set" and then you've got the 4 oldies who have been playing well enough to keep their places. Add in the keeper and the captain and the opening bowlers and there's no place for Yuvraj. Once again, India were unable to wrap up the tail and will end up paying for that. After Pak was reeling at 142/8, they let them off the hook and they're now at 210/8.Originally Posted by Nashwan
I did get to watch some of the match, though
Personally, I'd ditch Ganguly, although I suppose his bowling comes in useful.Originally Posted by gdn
Delighted to hear it!Originally Posted by gdn
I think what I was hinting at is Home Tests will be put back on the 'Crown Jewels' list - certainly if The Ashes 2009 live up to the 2005 version. The Government really regretted the move to remove those tests after the success cricket had in 2005.Originally Posted by Nashwan
Sorry I failed to take the point!Originally Posted by Blokee
Personally, I don't give a monkey's who gets the television rights to domestic cricket, but, as long as "Sky" retains the overseas, winter stuff, that will be fine with me. I could turn into a "gdn" without my dose of winter sunshine, i.e. deprived, bitter and twisted!
I have Sky and love their coverage, but if the Beeb and c4 brought it back and Richie once again became the voice of Cricket, with Boycott as his wing-man then I'd be happy enough.Originally Posted by Nashwan
Oh, I don't know, Boycott makes my head explode at times with his negativity. I'll take Richie (Benaud) any time, but surely the time will come, probably sooner rather than later, when, sadly, he tires of globe-trotting. I know that thanks to air travel, the world is a smaller place these days, but, when all said and done, the guy is now 77 years of age.Originally Posted by Blokee
Did you know that for the past thirty years or so he's stayed in the same suite in one of the top London hotels? (I can't recall off hand which one it is) but when they came to redecorating - they actually went to Richie & Mrs Richie and asked them what they wanted. He still spends summers over here as he doesn't like winters, so I'm very sure if the game went back to free-to-air TV that he'd once more return to the UK booth. I see Richie as someone who will commentate until he's no longer wanted - and I can never see that happening.Originally Posted by Nashwan
As for Boycott - I love his style - I thought it complemented Richie perfectly when they were on together and they are very good friends.
If I were Richie, I'd spend more time as President/Patron of the Sarasota Cricket Club, Florida! I could happily retire to a place like that! Seriously, I would love him to come back but, at the moment, I can't see much likelihood of it happening. Still, as always, glad to be ultimately proved wrong.Originally Posted by Blokee
Well, looks like India have the first test against Pakistan in Delhi wrapped up. Pakistan must be the most enigmatic team in world cricket: theoretically, they should be able to compete with the very best but just when it appears that they are in with a shout of winning, they collapse like a deck of cards.
In other news, I see that Steve Harmison is doubtful because of alleged back spasms for next Friday's first test match against Sri Lanka. Oh well, what's new?
What a fine victory for the Indians, indeed. A great start for the captaincy of Kumble. Whether this translates to anything overseas remains to be seen. I think of the Ind-Pak matches as just a warm up to the forthcoming tour down under. Maybe if India wins a match there, it can be counted as a success.Originally Posted by Nashwan
Theoretically, the Indians should give the Australians a decent series but, like England, I don't see them having the firepower to bowl the home team out twice. Also, the slow, low wickets prevalent on the sub-continent aren't likely to be replicated in Australia!! (To be fair, I don't think the Australian wickets, particularly at Perth, are as good as they were 10/15/20 years ago.) I think that the Indians will compete with anyone with their deep batting line up, but the bowling is something else.Originally Posted by gdn
The "Carl Pavano" of the cricket world!Originally Posted by gdn
Excellent performance by England today in Day 1 of the 1st test in Kandi. Restricted SL to under 200 after the home side won the toss, only four players even reached double figures, and two of them were 10 & 12.
Cook went early for the visitors but Bell and Vaughan saw England through to the close of play at 49/1.
India seem to be doing well too. A total of over 600 and then taking a wicket in the dying minutes of the day.
Having said that, I think this match is heading for a draw. I'm not sure there was any need to bat for most of the second day as well.
I think it is totally unfair that "Sky" television televised both the England/Sri Lanka and India/Pakistan games today! The constant channel hopping gets on my nerves, but, as a cricket afficionado, what can you do?!!Originally Posted by gdn
The India/Pakistan game should be a certain draw because the pitch is as flat as a pancake! However, if I were India I would never lose sight of the fact that the Pakistani batting is very fragile and if they can remove another couple of Pakistani batsmen in the morning, it could make for an interesting day.
The Sri Lanka/England game was unusual in that England actually bowled very well. (Steve Harmison being left out could have had something to do with it!) Only Kumar Sangakkara, whose average is currently 200+, showed how to play and had England managed to get him out early, the hosts would have been shot out for less than 100. Very impressive bowling by Matthew Hoggard. Still, mustn't grumble at limiting the Sri Lankan total to 188 and England is currently in a decent position in the match.
Well now Pak is at 350 odd for six. Three days of play over and not even one innings completed. Unless something dramatic happens,we have a draw on our hands. This is why I like Ponting's tactics. You bat aggressively, put up a big total by lunch on the second day and then have at 'em.Originally Posted by Nashwan
It seems that, although the pitch is taking spin, once the ball starts going soft, bowling really becomes hard work. A draw looks inevitable.Originally Posted by gdn
Yes, the Australians' tactics of batting aggressively first time up really pay dividends and I'm surprised more teams haven't been willing to take the risk. It seems that compiling 600 over two days just makes the game more or less safe, which is the safety first approach, and then it's down to hope that you can bowl the opposition out twice in three days.
Which is asking a lot. I'd rather set a target in the 450 range and then have at them twice.Originally Posted by Nashwan
I think it's 500 minimum unless you are Australia!Originally Posted by gdn
England were quite effective when they went with the high risk policy, particularly in the 2005 Ashes series, but the problem at the moment is that we don't have the batting depth required. It is unlikely that, say, our wicketkeeper is going to come out and "do a Gilchrist"! Hell! Even Brett Lee is a very useful performer with the bat in his hands! India are probably the second best equipped team in world cricket to try and force it, but I doubt they ever try it in a sensitive series against the Pakistanis. The fear of losing overcomes all else in such a series.
I see the joke that is the West Indies cricket team managed to plunge the depths further last week by losing to Zimbabwe (now minus test status) in a ODI in Harare. How much further can they plummet? Sorry, rhetorical question!
When were Zimbabwe stripped of their test status?
Sorry, gdn. Slight misinformation on my part! Given that the Australians have backed out of a tour there and that because of the political situation not many others are even going to think about it, I suppose you could say that it's a tacit drop in status. Without getting political, I just don't see how Zimbabwe can compete at test level, given (a) the current political situation, and (b) they just don't have the players to compete at the highest level.Originally Posted by gdn
Nice to see Murali beat Shane Warne's record this morning when he removed Paul Collingwood. England's batting exceeded my expectations and took a 92 run lead on the first inning. Meanwhile, in Calcutta, the Pakistanis comfortably avoided the follow on and the game will now meander to the inevitable draw.
I wish I could feel the same way.Originally Posted by Nashwan
Come on, Tabata. I know that "homerism" is a way of life for you Aussies , but credit where credit is due. I doubt that anyone will get anywhere near Murali's record when he finally retires. Can he reach the magical 1,000 test wickets?Originally Posted by Tabata
I can't really give credit to someone who... well you know.Originally Posted by Nashwan
I don't blame Murali for chucking - but I do have an issue with the fact that he feasted on the lesser nations. Warnie played against everyone and all over the globe whereas Murali feasted on spinning friendly wickets in the sub-continent.
Ah, do I detect a hint of bias here with Warne playing for Hampshire?!! Despite all the allegations, Muralitharan has never been "convicted" of throwing so you might as well drop that one! I agree that his action is highly suspect but until he is deemed to be a chucker, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.Originally Posted by Blokee
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