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    9.28.07 - NYY @ BAL: All Pregame Info & Discussion

    Phil Hughes pitched an outstanding 7 innings last night and Joba Chamberlain responded to his first outing on consecutive nights by striking out two in the Yankees’ 3-2 victory in Florida. With just 3 games remaining, New York has pulled to within 2 games of Boston in the AL Eastern Division.

    Hughes capped off a remarkable September in which he went 3-0, 2.73 over 5 GS. Hughes provided NYY with 29.2 IP, allowing 25 hits, 2 HR, 10 walks and 18 strikeouts. Paired with Chamberlain’s throwing on consecutive nights, both rookies have answered questions for Joe Torre at least heading into the postseason.

    Mike Mussina (11-10, 4.96) starts tonight in Baltimore against RH Jon Leicester (2-3, 6.51).

    Like Hughes, Mussina is another starter who had a phenomenal September which will give Torre options for the postseason rotation and any extended relief needs. Mussina has gone 3-0, 1.93 over 23.1 IP with 22 H, 0 HR, 5 BB, and 13 K with a 1.16 WHIP and a 1.29 GO:AO. He threw a brilliant 7 shutout innings giving up just 3 hits and a walk against 6 strikeouts on September 18th at Yankee Stadium.

    In that same Sepember 18th game, Leicester allowed 6 hits and 6 ER over 4 innings.

    3 Yankees also hope to find their stride offensively in this final regular season series:

    • Jason Giambi is .102/.339/.302 over 43 AB in September with 2 HR, 10 BB, and 15 K. He is 1 for his last 12 with 6 strikeouts.

    • Hideki Matsui is .179/.323./.346 over 78 AB in September with 2 HR, 16 BB, and 13 K. He is 2 for his last 14 with 4 strikeouts.

    • Melky Cabrera is .178/.232/.211 over 90 AB in September with 1 XBH, 7 walks, and 19 strikeouts. He is 0 for his last 14 with 6 strikeouts.

    The struggles of Giambi and Matsui are troublesome considering the protection factor of Alex Rodriguez in the postseason. As of now, Jorge Posada would have to be slotted into the 5th spot.

    Leicester vs. NYY:
    HITTERABH2B3BHRRBIBBSOBAOBPSLGOPS
    Doug Mientkiewicz41001301.250.2501.0001.250
    Johnny Damon30000001.000.000.000.000
    Alex Rodriguez20000001.000.000.000.000
    Derek Jeter220000001.0001.0001.0002.000
    Bobby Abreu21100000.500.5001.0001.500
    Hideki Matsui21100200.500.5001.0001.500
    Robinson Cano21000100.500.500.5001.000
    Melky Cabrera20000000.000.000.000.000
    Roger Clemens10000000.000.000.000.000
    Jorge Posada10000010.000.500.000.500
    Carl Pavano111001001.0001.0002.0003.000
    Jose Molina10000001.000.000.000.000
    Totals237301714.304.333.565.899

    Mussina vs. BAL:
    HITTERABH2B3BHRRBIBBSOBAOBPSLGOPS
    Miguel Tejada48193041354.396.455.7081.163
    Aubrey Huff4713101327.277.306.362.668
    Jay Gibbons4115302717.366.395.585.981
    Melvin Mora3913201508.333.350.462.812
    Kevin Millar3816302872.421.511.6581.169
    Brian Roberts3617600234.472.513.6391.152
    Ramon Hernandez164100334.250.333.313.646
    Nick Markakis92200215.222.300.444.744
    Paul Bako81100015.125.222.250.472
    Corey Patterson82100111.250.333.375.708
    Jay Payton60000012.000.143.000.143
    Tike Redman30000000.000.000.000.000
    Brandon Fahey30000002.000.000.000.000
    Freddie Bynum20000002.000.000.000.000
    Totals30410223010442553.336.388.510.898
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    Re: 9.28.07 - NYY @ BAL: All Pregame Info & Discussion

    They hit moose well....

    i didnt realize how good Hughes sept numbers were either...any chance he sees a playoff start?

    I would keep the cold bats in and try to get em turned around, rest everyone else, get the young guys in real quick.

    Melky - CF
    Robbie - 2b
    Abreu - RF
    Giambi - DH
    Matsui - LF
    Molina - C
    Gonzalez - SS
    Bettemit - 3rd
    Menty - 1b

    EDIT: didnt see Pavano was batting 1.000 against Lieschester - bat him 4th
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    I would play the starters and use a normal lineup tonight

    LF Damon
    SS Jeter
    RF Abreu
    3B ARod
    DH Matsui
    C Posada
    2B Cano
    1B Doug M
    CF Melky

    You dont wanna give guys too much rest and let them lose their sharpness....they are gonna have at least 2 full days maybe 3 days of rest prior to the start of the DS. Alot of guys had last night off so I say play the regulars tonight.

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    Re: 9.28.07 - NYY @ BAL: All Pregame Info & Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDynasty26
    They hit moose well....

    i didnt realize how good Hughes sept numbers were either...any chance he sees a playoff start?

    I would keep the cold bats in and try to get em turned around, rest everyone else, get the young guys in real quick.

    Melky - CF
    Robbie - 2b
    Abreu - RF
    Giambi - DH
    Matsui - LF
    Molina - C
    Gonzalez - SS
    Bettemit - 3rd
    Menty - 1b

    EDIT: didnt see Pavano was batting 1.000 against Lieschester - bat him 4th
    I'd get the regulars back in there tonight and give Cano and Damon the day off so Giambi, Matsui, and Cabrera are in.

    CF Cabrera
    SS Jeter
    RF Abreu
    3B Rodriguez
    LF Matsui
    C Posada
    DH Giambi
    2B Betemit?
    1B Mientkiewicz

    Cabrera and Matsui are situated in spots where they should see hittable pitches.
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    I would play the kids one more night -- a lineup very similar to last night.
    Play the regulars Saturday
    On Sunday, start the regs for 2 at bats and then do the subs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBamTino24
    I'd get the regulars back in there tonight and give Cano and Damon the day off so Giambi, Matsui, and Cabrera are in.

    CF Cabrera
    SS Jeter
    RF Abreu
    3B Rodriguez
    LF Matsui
    C Posada
    DH Giambi
    2B Betemit?
    1B Mientkiewicz

    Cabrera and Matsui are situated in spots where they should see hittable pitches.
    I agree get the guys who were off last night in there today and rest the regulars who played last night except Matsui who could use the extra games to get out of his funk. I'd go with the exact same lineup and I think there is a very good chance that's what we'll see tonight.

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    Keep playing the rookies & B-players, roll the dice and hope for the best.

    LETS GO YANKEES!

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    3 games, 3 wins.

    Get it done, Yanks.

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    Re: 9.28.07 - NYY @ BAL: All Pregame Info & Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by TheBamTino24
    I'd get the regulars back in there tonight and give Cano and Damon the day off so Giambi, Matsui, and Cabrera are in.

    CF Cabrera
    SS Jeter
    RF Abreu
    3B Rodriguez
    LF Matsui
    C Posada
    DH Giambi
    2B Betemit?
    1B Mientkiewicz

    Cabrera and Matsui are situated in spots where they should see hittable pitches.
    I'll ditto this line up and the thoughts behind it. Thanks once again for the write up, TBT!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBamTino24
    I'd get the regulars back in there tonight and give Cano and Damon the day off so Giambi, Matsui, and Cabrera are in.

    CF Cabrera
    SS Jeter
    RF Abreu
    3B Rodriguez
    LF Matsui
    C Posada
    DH Giambi
    2B Betemit?
    1B Mientkiewicz

    Cabrera and Matsui are situated in spots where they should see hittable pitches.
    That's what I'd go with, unless for some reason they wanted to give Jorge a bonus day off.

    The best case scenario for me is a Yankee blowout in which all the regulars are lifted.

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    I am going to the game tonight, and what the heck, I want to see the B lineup.
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    I want Betemit and Duncan to get as many ABs as possible. We might need them to PH in the playoffs.
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    Nice info TBT - thanks
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    How about this lineup?

    Cabrera CF
    Betemit 2B
    Matsui LF
    Rodriguez 3B
    Giambi DH
    Duncan 1B
    Molina C
    Sardinhia RF
    Gonzalez SS

    Gives Robbie a day off. Gets Jeter another day. Gets the cold hitters in the lineup to see if they can turn it around. Only problem is Matsui in LF (probably want to rest his knees)

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    Quote Originally Posted by dabomb2045
    I would play the starters and use a normal lineup tonight
    agree. shoot for the W tonite and see what boston does. rest or DH a rod tomorrow, and maybe another game for duncan. sunday we go against a pretty good lefty in burres, so that will give joe a chance to test out duncan, giambi et al to help figure out our lineup vs sabathia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark19
    I want Betemit and Duncan to get as many ABs as possible. We might need them to PH in the playoffs.
    duncan needs to sharpen up and WB just looks lost at the plate these days. giambi will also get into a few games for the same reason. we have some Qs at PH ......... and DH Qs w duncan, matsui and giambi ..........

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYKforever
    How about this lineup?

    Cabrera CF
    Betemit 2B
    Matsui LF
    Rodriguez 3B
    Giambi DH
    Duncan 1B
    Molina C
    Sardinhia RF
    Gonzalez SS

    Gives Robbie a day off. Gets Jeter another day. Gets the cold hitters in the lineup to see if they can turn it around. Only problem is Matsui in LF (probably want to rest his knees)
    I like giving Duncan as much playing time as possible this week because I could definitly see him getting at least 1 or 2 at bats against Sabathia or Rafael Perez in the ALDS pinch hitting for Dougie.
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    We managed to gain a game with the B team vs. Scott Kazmir, mostly for two reasons: Hughes pitched great, and Madden put an artificial limit on Kazmir's pitch count.

    I think you have to go out there tonight with your best lineup ... not only is too much rest not a good thing, it's also possible they gain another game. I don't care what they say in Red Sox land, taking the division would be a blow to them.

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    Re: 9.28.07 - NYY @ BAL: All Pregame Info & Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by NYKforever
    How about this lineup?

    Cabrera CF
    Betemit 2B
    Matsui LF
    Rodriguez 3B
    Giambi DH
    Duncan 1B
    Molina C
    Sardinhia RF
    Gonzalez SS

    Gives Robbie a day off. Gets Jeter another day. Gets the cold hitters in the lineup to see if they can turn it around. Only problem is Matsui in LF (probably want to rest his knees)
    I like Betemit at 2B to spell Robbie for a game, but he strikes out too much to bat second.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R.V.47
    I like giving Duncan as much playing time as possible this week because I could definitly see him getting at least 1 or 2 at bats against Sabathia or Rafael Perez in the ALDS pinch hitting for Dougie.
    Is Duncan starting next week RV? Did I not read the paper correctly this morning? Unless your speaking of that spot in the 6th inning with a man in SP and Dougie is coming to the plate next week.
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    sweep and the sox lose 2 of 3 and we get the division. it can still happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by knickfan23
    Is Duncan starting next week RV? Did I not read the paper correctly this morning? Unless your speaking of that spot in the 6th inning with a man in SP and Dougie is coming to the plate next week.
    Yea thats what i meant, for pinch hitting purposes. I dont think Shelley is going to start.
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    Re: 9.28.07 - NYY @ BAL: All Pregame Info & Discussion

    Im gonna go with :
    Damon CF
    Jeter SS
    Abreu RF
    Rodriguez 3B
    Matsui LF
    Posada C
    Giambi DH
    Cano 2B
    Mientkiewicz 1B

    I think we are gonna go for it, however we could rest some people, I think Melky gets the rest today..

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    Re: 9.28.07 - NYY @ BAL: All Pregame Info & Discussion

    Per Pete Abe:

    Damon CF
    Jeter SS
    Abreu RF
    Rodriguez 3B
    Matsui LF
    Posada C
    Giambi DH
    Cano 2B
    Mientkiewicz 1B
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    I want my WB - He needs the at bats
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    Re: 9.28.07 - NYY @ BAL: All Pregame Info & Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by yankswn23
    Im gonna go with :
    Damon CF
    Jeter SS
    Abreu RF
    Rodriguez 3B
    Matsui LF
    Posada C
    Giambi DH
    Cano 2B
    Mientkiewicz 1B

    I think we are gonna go for it, however we could rest some people, I think Melky gets the rest today..
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    Re: 9.28.07 - NYY @ BAL: All Pregame Info & Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by B.A.
    Per Pete Abe:

    Damon CF
    Jeter SS
    Abreu RF
    Rodriguez 3B
    Matsui LF
    Posada C
    Giambi DH
    Cano 2B
    Mientkiewicz 1B
    Mussina RHP (11-10, 4.96)
    they wan to get damon, matsui and giambi as many at-bats as possble so they know who is hot goign tinto the playoffs. melky will return as the CF of course.
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    Re: 9.28.07 - NYY @ BAL: All Pregame Info & Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by hardrain
    I want my WB - He needs the at bats
    I saw enough of his at bats last night.

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    They're giving Cabrera extended rest. Interesting. Maybe those September stats do reveal exhaustion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yankees1962
    I saw enough of his at bats last night.
    Going up against Kazmir isn't exactly a fair impression
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yankees1962
    I saw enough of his at bats last night.
    He will be on the post-season roster. You never know when he may be up in an important situation. Torre never plays him. He needs more playing time.
    Do you really think last night is indicative of all he can do?
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    Re: 9.28.07 - NYY @ BAL: All Pregame Info & Discussion

    Four guys who need some AB's:

    Betemit - 2B
    Duncan - 1B
    Giambi - DH
    Matsui - LF

    I'd sit Melky another day and put Damon in CF
    Jeter, ARod, Abreu and Posada should play tonight to stay sharp. They can all rest Saturday and play Sunday
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    So they went with the A-lineup. That's about what I figured; there will probably be more of a B-lineup tomorrow I guess.

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    I wouldn't sit Damon all week, I would take him out of the game late, but he's been hitting real well as of late. Anyhow, I like todays lineup..

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    I don't think they should make any special effort to get Betemit ABs.

    Does anyone honestly see him starting the playoffs? I don't. His value is as a backup infielder. The only time I can see him playing in the post season is if Giambi PHs for Dougie, then they'd use Betemit as a defensive replacement. Other than Dougie, who else are they gonna PH for? They certainly wouldn't use Betemit to PH for any of the lefties. And if for some reason Joe needed a righthanded PH, he'd probably go with Duncan over Betemit.

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    Re: 9.28.07 - NYY @ BAL: All Pregame Info & Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by BonusCantos
    So they went with the A-lineup. That's about what I figured; there will probably be more of a B-lineup tomorrow I guess.
    I have a feeling if the AL lead gets cut to 1 game again tonight we'll see the A lineup again tomorrow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DEADSOX
    I have a feeling if the AL lead gets cut to 1 game again tonight we'll see the A lineup again tomorrow.
    And I'd applaud that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MunsonNY15
    I don't think they should make any special effort to get Betemit ABs.

    Does anyone honestly see him starting the playoffs? I don't. His value is as a backup infielder. The only time I can see him playing in the post season is if Giambi PHs for Dougie, then they'd use Betemit as a defensive replacement. Other than Dougie, who else are they gonna PH for? They certainly wouldn't use Betemit to PH for any of the lefties. And if for some reason Joe needed a righthanded PH, he'd probably go with Duncan over Betemit.

    Just my take....
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    agreed. Lets get a W today and hope Boston loses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DEADSOX
    I have a feeling if the AL lead gets cut to 1 game again tonight we'll see the A lineup again tomorrow.
    It's possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BonusCantos
    It's possible.
    haha, Cantos... anything is possible... it's just a matter of what is probable.

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    Re: 9.28.07 - NYY @ BAL: All Pregame Info & Discussion

    FWIW, Boston's playing their A-lineup again...but then again, I hear that the division doesn't matter to them.

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    Re: 9.28.07 - NYY @ BAL: All Pregame Info & Discussion

    I have a party to attend to tonight, so I won't be around for the game.

    Go Yankees
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    Re: 9.28.07 - NYY @ BAL: All Pregame Info & Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by BonusCantos
    FWIW, Boston's playing their A-lineup again...but then again, I hear that the division doesn't matter to them.
    Boston losing tonight would be great ... not only for our slim division hopes but perhaps more importantly because I want to see Matsuzaka continue to struggle going into the postseason.

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    Re: 9.28.07 - NYY @ BAL: All Pregame Info & Discussion

    10 minutes till 1st pitch

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