Lou Piniella doesn't think women know enough to be managers

[jeterismyhomeboy]

I don't think it has anything to do with what women are capable of mentally, but rather what the players and would-be women managers would be capable of emotionally. Women are certainly capable of doing the job, but there is a lot to managing we don't see and can't comment on. I think the interpersonal nature of the job would be difficult for a woman not only because of the uphill battle to gain respect, but because she'll be in the clubhouse and locker rooms, and have to mentor and berate. She might be built to handle all of that, but it's not just about her; it's about the 25 players on the roster, the rest of the coaches, the GM and management...there are a lot of hurdles to jump over.

If anyone says, however, that women "just aren't capable" of it, my mind automatically thinks about all those comments about black players "just not being capable" to play in MLB or "not having what it takes" to be managers or in the FO.

That said, I would most certainly advocate a woman as a GM, rather than as a team manager. Women's mettle isn't what I question; what I question is men's ability to accept talent over perception.

[GraniteYankee]

Can anyone currently think of a woman that is qualified to manage in the big leagues right now?

Seriously, women have proven through the years to make excellent executives and I think eventually we will see a successful women GM. But managing a big league club is probably unrealistic.

[jlw1980]

IMHO women lack the knowledge to be able to handle the strategic nuances of the game (few men do also). They lack the ability to judge skills of individual players. They lack the ability to gain the trust of the players. They lack the ability to be able to relate to the umpires. They would have trouble handling the travel necessitated by the 162 regular season schedule, the playoffs, the WS and ST without having female comaradie like the males would have the male companionship.. Their emothinal makeup wouldn't allow them to handle situations with the aplomb that Joe Torre does; and finally the ball club couldn't afford to supply them the Kleenex for all the tears they would shed over the course of the season.

Wow. So women are nothing but over-emotional imbeciles. Nice. This has got to be one of the most ignorant things I've ever read. :rollseyes:

[jlw1980]

Women play softball and that's completely different. It's not that a woman couldn't be a good manager, it's that they'd never get a fair chance.

For the most part, I totally agree with this, though it makes me very sad.

[jlw1980]

I've always thought it's interesting that men coach women's basketball but not visa-versa.

I don't see what the big deal is. In one way or another, men have always taken orders from women.

I agree with the first part of this post. I don't understand that, either.

As to the second part...see my signature. Women have always been subjugated by men, always been viewed as men's property. I don't see how men have always taken orders from women. It's always been the other way around.

[NyQuil]

I am all for women managing, its women driving that I find offensive.

[Trish]

You nailed it much more eloquently than I ever could have.
Now, one of you little girlies grab Dan, Nome & me some beers!

Oh why don't you just STFU.

[shotz]

next generation Baseball Managers WOOOOOHOOOOO!!!!

[4bronxbombers]

Who's the guy in the background?

[shotz]

an ex baseball manager..........

[Yomiuri]

Women play softball and that's completely different.

Actually, that's not entirely true, as you can see from this Wikipedia article on the LHP Ila Borders http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ila_Borders

I agree with the many people here who've pointed out that women face enormous obstacles of all kinds if they want to play professional baseball and/or be taken seriously as candidates for jobs as managers, coaches, or umpires in MLB, but I still hold out hope that it'll happen in my lifetime.

[46Mattingly23]

Can anyone currently think of a woman that is qualified to manage in the big leagues right now?

Rachel Phelps was almost like a manager for the Cleveland Indians, she really motivated Willie "Mays" Hayes, Jake Taylor, and Rick "Wild Thing" Vaughn back in the early-90's, maybe she could do it again for another team.

[Trish]

I think that there are plenty of women out there who, if not for all the obstacles, could manage a MLB team well.

The obstacles being the good old boy mentality, sexism, and that sort of thing. Not their overly emotional mentality, or they're not being able to travel with a gaggle of ladies to go to the restroom with. Puleeze.

[GraniteYankee]

I think that there are plenty of women out there who, if not for all the obstacles, could manage a MLB team well.

The obstacles being the good old boy mentality, sexism, and that sort of thing. Not their overly emotional mentality, or they're not being able to travel with a gaggle of ladies to go to the restroom with. Puleeze.

Trish, I agree, it's more MLB's barriers then gender related barriers. Again, I think we have a much better chance of seeing a female GM then a manager. The young GM's of the world today - Theo and some others have broken the traditional mold and now GM jobs are being given to the guy with the MBA or Ivy league backround whom has worked his way up through the ranks vs. the classical former ball player or manager. I think that change bodes well for women, as you don't necessarily have to be a former player to be considered for those FO roles anymore, you just have to be well-educated and work hard. Hell, there are plenty of women out there that fit that mold.

[gdn]

Manager? WHAT? Someone let them out of the damn kitchen!?!?!?

[4bronxbombers]

Manager? WHAT? Someone let them out of the damn kitchen!?!?!?

You STFU too.

[gdn]

You STFU too.

Aww honey. You know I'd let you manage our kids' little league backyard whiffleball team


In all seriousness, I don't see why not, if they're qualified for the job. There are plenty of men who are not.

So, the question really is: What are the requirements to be a manager?

[4bronxbombers]

Aww honey. You know I'd let you manage our kids' little league backyard whiffleball team

[#1PaFan]

I think that there are plenty of women out there who, if not for all the obstacles, could manage a MLB team well.

The obstacles being the good old boy mentality, sexism, and that sort of thing. Not their overly emotional mentality, or they're not being able to travel with a gaggle of ladies to go to the restroom with. Puleeze.

PERHAPS a female could do the job, but it would HAVE to be post menopause. But, even then, I don't think that The Weaker Sex could stand up to the rigors of the Season.

All the little feminists out there should just stop dreaming. You are just not capable of making rational decisions daily over a long period of time. (Sorry that I wrote "period").

Just enjoy the Games, give us beers, and keep pumping out little males to fill the rosters!!!!

[GraniteYankee]

You are just not capable of making rational decisions daily over a long period of time.

George, stop stealing lines from the Joe Torre thread.

[ring403]

Okay, folks. This thread has turned into more of a battle of the sexes than a baseball discussion, so I'm going to to have to abuse my absolute power and be restrictive here.
Let's move on, please.