RIP Jerry Falwell

[Jersey Yankee]

I heard on WCBS-880AM (where else?) that Falwell helped Reagan's landslide victory over Carter by encouraging his flock to register to vote for him. Anyone else hear this?

[NYDCYankee]

I heard on WCBS-880AM (where else?) that Falwell helped Reagan's landslide victory over Carter by encouraging his flock to register to vote for him. Anyone else hear this?

Well, it's a lot more than just that, his "flock" would be his church and was just several thousand people, his TV audience bigger than that but maybe not enough to swing elections, but he did alot more than that. He started the Moral Majority and a large part of that was to get conservative religous people mostly Christians to register to vote in general. He also was the first person to unite conservative Protestants, Catholics and Jews for political purposes. Most pundits I saw on the news last night consider him a pioneer in this regard.

[Jersey Yankee]

Well, it's a lot more than just that, his "flock" would be his church and was just several thousand people, his TV audience bigger than that but maybe not enough to swing elections, but he did alot more than that. He started the Moral Majority and a large part of that was to get conservative religous people mostly Christians to register to vote in general. He also was the first person to unite conservative Protestants, Catholics and Jews for political purposes. Most pundits I saw on the news last night consider him a pioneer in this regard.

Oh, is that it? So he was one of those TV Evangelicans like Oral Roberts or the tarnished Jimmy Swaggart? Before he stood next to Reagan and discussed Church teachers, I'd never even heard of the guy, unlike the others. I just figured he road Reagan's coattails into some moral spin. I remember that Reagan had voiced things about morality in people and government.

What exactly did he do with Jim & Tammy Bakker's "Praise The Lord" (PTL) Ministry? I'm reading that he'd taken it over, but how could he have done this if it wasn't his? You or anyone else have details?

[3M'sBoys]

Yeah, I put him in the same class as the bastards that protest at funerals. (Well, I guess I shouldn't have used the word "class.")

And the world of irony strikes again- Phelps will be protesting at Falwell's funeral. Go figure.

[Octoberbaby]

Oh, is that it? So he was one of those TV Evangelicans like Oral Roberts or the tarnished Jimmy Swaggart? Before he stood next to Reagan and discussed Church teachers, I'd never even heard of the guy, unlike the others. I just figured he road Reagan's coattails into some moral spin. I remember that Reagan had voiced things about morality in people and government.

What exactly did he do with Jim & Tammy Bakker's "Praise The Lord" (PTL) Ministry? I'm reading that he'd taken it over, but how could he have done this if it wasn't his? You or anyone else have details?

Falwell was definitely very instrumental in getting Reagan and Bush (both of them) elected.

From what I remember Falwell just showed up there (at Bakkers PTL ministry and Family Park) and took over the place, getting rid of all Bakker's people and putting his own into place.

[Octoberbaby]

I heard on WCBS-880AM (where else?) that Falwell helped Reagan's landslide victory over Carter by encouraging his flock to register to vote for him. Anyone else hear this?

Falwell also made disparaging remarks about Carter (who is a born again Christian himself) disparaging his Christianity, to which Carter told him to go to h*ll!

[Jersey Yankee]

Falwell was definitely very instrumental in getting Reagan and Bush (both of them) elected.

From what I remember Falwell just showed up there (at Bakkers PTL ministry and Family Park) and took over the place, getting rid of all Bakker's people and putting his own into place.

Interesting about the religious right. I'd heard about some Christian Coalition (independent of the Vatican), and others, but hadn't realized that he was the so-called name and face of the religious right.

I thought it was just Reagan. He seemed to be riding off his Reagan-era thought-speak afterwards, involving himself in debates and giving his opinions on various things. I just didn't seem him standing right there next to Bush (father) as much as he did with Reagan, where he was all front-row and center.

I hadn't even noticed him in Bush the son's election. Heck, those chads and the USSC got more credit for the "election" (pardon the quotes) than anything else.

Must've been for financial purposes. To me, if someone shows up on your property and you want them out, you get them outta there for trespassing. Were the Bakers that free-falling that someone could just show up and take over?

Sounds like one of those corporate takeovers or somethin'. Me, I'd have kicked him out by his arse.

[Yanks4eva1]

I was never a fan of Jerry Falwell. But I will say RIP. It's too bad he spent much of his time politicizing and legislating morality instead of doing what he was called to do - preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

Nonetheless, my condolences to his family and his congregation.

Dee

[JDPNYY]

New and improved Earth. Now with less scum.

[SalingerNY]

Hitch lets him have it here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkAPa...Ffalwell%2Ephp

"A bullying little turd." Sounds about right.

[yankeesAZ]

Falwell also made disparaging remarks about Carter (who is a born again Christian himself) disparaging his Christianity, to which Carter told him to go to h*ll!

He's already there!

[BillBuckner]

RIP. I believe the man's heart was in the right place, even though his head often wasn't.

BTW did anyone watch Larry King last night? They had Larry Flynt on, and apparently he and Falwell developed some form of mutual affection over the years, even to the point of it resembling a friendship. It was an interesting interview.

[mjdlight]

RIP. I believe the man's heart was in the right place, even though his head often wasn't.

BTW did anyone watch Larry King last night? They had Larry Flynt on, and apparently he and Falwell developed some form of mutual affection over the years, even to the point of it resembling a friendship. It was an interesting interview.

They were both in show business, not surprising they eventually struck up a friendship of sorts.

[Octoberbaby]

To me once a minister involves himself and his ministry in politics, he should step down from the pulpit. A true minister of God should not be messing into politics. He could have his political views in private, but to use his pulpit as a way to further his own political agenda is just wrong and dangerous, IMO.

[Octoberbaby]

Interesting about the religious right. I'd heard about some Christian Coalition (independent of the Vatican), and others, but hadn't realized that he was the so-called name and face of the religious right.

I thought it was just Reagan. He seemed to be riding off his Reagan-era thought-speak afterwards, involving himself in debates and giving his opinions on various things. I just didn't seem him standing right there next to Bush (father) as much as he did with Reagan, where he was all front-row and center.

I hadn't even noticed him in Bush the son's election. Heck, those chads and the USSC got more credit for the "election" (pardon the quotes) than anything else.

Must've been for financial purposes. To me, if someone shows up on your property and you want them out, you get them outta there for trespassing. Were the Bakers that free-falling that someone could just show up and take over?

Sounds like one of those corporate takeovers or somethin'. Me, I'd have kicked him out by his arse.

Jim Bakker had his own problems at the time. Falwell swooped in at that time to take advantage of a bad situation that Bakker was in. To me this is the height of hypocrisy and blatant greed. And you are right, it was like a corporate takeover or a political coup.

[NYDCYankee]

To me once a minister involves himself and his ministry in politics, he should step down from the pulpit. A true minister of God should not be messing into politics. He could have his political views in private, but to use his pulpit as a way to further his own political agenda is just wrong and dangerous, IMO.

Martin Luther King Jr.?


There is a right way to do it and a wrong way to do it.

[SalingerNY]

Martin Luther King Jr.?


There is a right way to do it and a wrong way to do it.

Yeah, most likely they won't be naming parkways across the country after Falwell twenty years from now.

[4bronxbombers]

Yeah, most likely they won't be naming parkways across the country after Falwell twenty years from now.

Yeah, I don't think so....

[yankeesAZ]

Hitch lets him have it here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkAPa...Ffalwell%2Ephp

"A bullying little turd." Sounds about right.

I just heard that interview today. Did he ever let him and Hannity have it.

[Octoberbaby]

Martin Luther King Jr.?


There is a right way to do it and a wrong way to do it.

MLK was really talking about equal rights. I don't see that as politics, such as putting all your efforts behind a political candidate. He did peaceful marches and spoke up for equal rights.

[Octoberbaby]

RIP. I believe the man's heart was in the right place, even though his head often wasn't.

BTW did anyone watch Larry King last night? They had Larry Flynt on, and apparently he and Falwell developed some form of mutual affection over the years, even to the point of it resembling a friendship. It was an interesting interview.

Doesn't surprise me, Falwell was probably a closet porno addict anyway.

[NYDCYankee]

MLK was really talking about equal rights. I don't see that as politics, such as putting all your efforts behind a political candidate. He did peaceful marches and spoke up for equal rights.

I'm not entirely positive of this, but didn't he throw all the African American support behind JFK? I think that was the first time African Americans voted significantly for a Democratic candidate.

I could be completely off base though.