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    Torre giving myers a chance to be more than a specialist

    This spring and now into this season out of necessesity, torre is leaving myers in for a full inning at a time.

    so far hes proved he can still get righties out even though hes certainly not the preferred option. If myers can pitch a full inning, i feel a lot more comfortable with him on the team than i did last year. Especially with hwo much our starters are making our bullpen work

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    Re: Torre giving myers a chance to be more than a specialist

    Quote Originally Posted by Stryder2929
    This spring and now into this season out of necessesity, torre is leaving myers in for a full inning at a time.

    so far hes proved he can still get righties out even though hes certainly not the preferred option. If myers can pitch a full inning, i feel a lot more comfortable with him on the team than i did last year. Especially with hwo much our starters are making our bullpen work
    They have to. They can't afford to have someone on the roster pitching to one batter at a time.
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    Re: Torre giving myers a chance to be more than a specialist

    Where have you seen that? I haven't seen torre let Meyers in for more than 2/3 inning

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    If he can be half way decent against righties(history has shown he can't) then he will be much less of a burden

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    Re: Torre giving myers a chance to be more than a specialist

    Quote Originally Posted by Nome
    Where have you seen that? I haven't seen torre let Meyers in for more than 2/3 inning

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    He pitched a full inning today.

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    Re: Torre giving myers a chance to be more than a specialist

    Quote Originally Posted by Stryder2929
    This spring and now into this season out of necessesity, torre is leaving myers in for a full inning at a time.

    so far hes proved he can still get righties out even though hes certainly not the preferred option. If myers can pitch a full inning, i feel a lot more comfortable with him on the team than i did last year. Especially with hwo much our starters are making our bullpen work
    We do need another reliever to do mop up and keep the workhorses like Scott Proctor and Luis Vizcaino and Mo healthy and fresh.
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    Re: Torre giving myers a chance to be more than a specialist

    Until our starters can go more than 5, it is a necessity.

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    Re: Torre giving myers a chance to be more than a specialist

    IIRC, Myers talked some towards the end of last year about some changes he and Gator were making in his delivery to make him more effective on righties. Does anyone else remember that or am I having another false memory?

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    Quote Originally Posted by yankeebot
    IIRC, Myers talked some towards the end of last year about some changes he and Gator were making in his delivery to make him more effective on righties. Does anyone else remember that or am I having another false memory?
    I remember it. I hope it isn't why he was so mediocre against lefties(though it wasn't the first time). My thinking is if he was capable of being effective against right handers it would have happened by now.

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    Re: Torre giving myers a chance to be more than a specialist

    I thought I'd never say this, but with the way our starters pitched so far, I'm worried about Myers being overused and blowing his arm out.
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    Don't be worried, if that happened they would just replace him with a better pitcher.

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    Re: Torre giving myers a chance to be more than a specialist

    Quote Originally Posted by yankeebot
    He pitched a full inning today.
    For the first time in my memory. If Joe has a total about face with Meyers and truly uses him for an inning or more then, I too would have much less trouble keeping him on the roster than I do when Joe uses him for only one batter.

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    Re: Torre giving myers a chance to be more than a specialist

    Quote Originally Posted by Nome
    For the first time in my memory. If Joe has a total about face with Meyers and truly uses him for an inning or more then, I too would have much less trouble keeping him on the roster than I do when Joe uses him for only one batter.

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    It's funny about memories, Andy. I just checked the game logs and Myers pitched a full inning or more in 22 games last year. Go figure. Of course he still only pitched a total of 30 innings and we need more than that to justify his spot on the roster.

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    Re: Torre giving myers a chance to be more than a specialist

    Quote Originally Posted by yankeebot
    It's funny about memories, Andy. I just checked the game logs and Myers pitched a full inning or more in 22 games last year. Go figure. Of course he still only pitched a total of 30 innings and we need more than that to justify his spot on the roster.
    Were those mostly in mop up duty?
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    Re: Torre giving myers a chance to be more than a specialist

    Quote Originally Posted by In Mo I Trust
    Were those mostly in mop up duty?
    I didn't look at them indepth. I'm sure some were, some weren't. At this point, I still don't think he should be tying up a roster spot and unless he proves he can get righties I don't see that opinion changing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoRocket
    They have to. They can't afford to have someone on the roster pitching to one batter at a time.
    Absolutely. When you starting staff is averaging 4+ innings everyone in the pen gets used. At this rate we will need 14 pitchers. Even Mr Farnsworth will have to suck it up.
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    Re: Torre giving myers a chance to be more than a specialist

    Has anyone noticed the absurd difference between the performance of our starters and relievers? Somehow, this 7-man bullpen thing seems to be working. I have a feeling they'll figure out how to use Myers and Vizcaino against lefties and righties.....

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    If Torre wants to overuse Myers than, I'm all for it. That means he won't be overusing anyone else. He is the only guy I won't mind doing that to.
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    Re: Torre giving myers a chance to be more than a specialist

    Quote Originally Posted by GoRocket
    They have to. They can't afford to have someone on the roster pitching to one batter at a time.
    Especially with our starters no being able to go more than 4-5 innings. And if he shows he can't do it, I see Villone found his control and pitching pretty good at SWB.
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    Re: Torre giving myers a chance to be more than a specialist

    Quote Originally Posted by yankeebot
    He pitched a full inning today.
    Oh crap! His arm is going to fall off now!

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    Re: Torre giving myers a chance to be more than a specialist

    I remember looking up his career stats last year and seeing that his he turns righties into A-Rod. His three year split against righties? .922 OPS. Righties average 100 points better than lefties off of him, have an OBP of 150 points higher, and slug 170 points higher.

    I remember much ado being made of him being the guy assigned to David Ortiz (and giving up an HR the first time they faced off), and it would be nice if he were doing more than 30 innings of work (as another poster said), but he'd likely be more of a liability than an asset if forced to face righties only to "earn" a roster spot.
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    Re: Torre giving myers a chance to be more than a specialist

    this makes me happy, he needs to do more then get one out a week.

    I have been calling for his roster spot, but i realize it is more his utilization. If he can be more then a 1 AB guy then great, be it. I just dont want to waste a spot on a guy who can face ortiz (who i feel will fall back to earth for some reason)

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    Myers isn't good enough.
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    Re: Torre giving myers a chance to be more than a specialist

    if our rotation doesn't start getting thru the 6th inning soon, we'll start seeing mo pitching 2 innings again ... not good.
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    Re: Torre giving myers a chance to be more than a specialist

    I actually like this move by Torre. Myers is still effective.

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    Re: Torre giving myers a chance to be more than a specialist

    I like using myers for more than just one batter. If we're keeping 12 pitchers and our starters aren't going to go that deep than yea we should definitely make use of all the guys we have in the bullpen. I thought Myers looked great in ST and he seems to be doing better against righties so he should definitely be given a shot to pitch full innings. If nothing else we definitely need to use this guy in garbage innings as he should be fully rested and if he can get righties out there and be successful pitching full innings than maybe he could pitch full innings in closer games.

    Last year my main problem with the way Torre used him was that if the opposing team didn't have a really good left handed hitter or if the game wasn't close Torre wouldn't use him and often saved him while overusing guys like Proctor and Villone in situations that they didn't need to be in. If you are just going to have him pitch to one batter he should be pitching every game. It doesn't really matter which left handed batter you have him face just get him in the game and give the rest of your bullpen at least a tiny bit of rest. Let him actually do something other than just taking up a roster spot.

    I think Myers can definitely be worth his spot but he's got to get in games to prove that. Thats not his fault thats all on Torre.

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