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    Pena to the DL. I'm a really big fan of his but I can't be too sad about anything that hurts the Rays...

    http://mlb.fanhouse.com/2010/08/06/r...est-to-hit-dl/
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    Quote Originally Posted by snarkerella
    Pena to the DL. I'm a really big fan of his but I can't be too sad about anything that hurts the Rays...

    http://mlb.fanhouse.com/2010/08/06/r...est-to-hit-dl/
    the first sentence is a little odd

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    Quote Originally Posted by nnysiny
    the first sentence is a little odd
    You mean my first sentence or the first sentence in the article? If it was mine, errr, sorry? If it was the one in the article, they were just probably trying to make a lame joke about the fact that the other two big AL East 1B are hurt.
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    lol @ Rays....17 runs...I think 8 BlueJay Hr's...atleast 7

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    Niemann to miss next start w/ shoulder soreness...
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    Tampa Bay Rays starters, meet "dead arm" syndrome...it is only a matter of time before Price goes through it too

    http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?...t=.jsp&c_id=tb

    Niemann and Davis aren't seriously hurt, they're just inexperienced; Niemann only threw one full season in the majors and Davis has never thrown a full season

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    Rays may get no hit again. lol
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    Longoria singles, no hit gone.
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    Frankly, I think this 5-game skid and the fact that they have Dan Johnson hitting cleanup will tip the division in our favor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by teknetic
    Frankly, I think this 5-game skid and the fact that they have Dan Johnson hitting cleanup will tip the division in our favor.
    I agree.

    They don't have anyone batting .300, and just a couple of guys over .270. Add to that their 'dead arm' SPs, and I think they are going to fade fast.
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    These Rays get no-hit (or almost) so many times lol....
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    It is hard to believe that this team came so close to being nohit again! However, you have to tip your hat to Morrow who has probably pitched the greatest game he will ever pitch in the majors. He looked like Nolan Ryan and Clemens he was so dominate.

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    David Price is insanely good. . A lefty starter throwing 100mph



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    Niemann and Davis on the DL. Hellickson is better than Davis so they didn't really lose much, but Niemann is gonna be tough to swallow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by teknetic
    Niemann and Davis on the DL. Hellickson is better than Davis so they didn't really lose much, but Niemann is gonna be tough to swallow.
    yea, it means the Rays/Red Sox fight for the wildcard is gonna get interesting
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    Quote Originally Posted by teknetic
    Niemann and Davis on the DL. Hellickson is better than Davis so they didn't really lose much, but Niemann is gonna be tough to swallow.
    Hellickson has one major league start. He is more talented than Davis and looked better....but it's a stretch to say he's better at this point. Most ML pitchers struggle at some early point in their careers, no matter who they are.

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    Davis posted a 122 ERA+ during last year's stretch run. I'll take the over on Hellickson putting up a 95 ERA+ from now until the first week of October.
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    Less than 12,000 people were at today's game.

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    someone needs to steal joe maddon's one-a-days
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    It's amazing how dead this thread is, considering that the Rays are the toughest obstacle to championship #28.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sweet_lou_14
    It's amazing how dead this thread is, considering that the Rays are the toughest obstacle to championship #28.
    Absence of Rays trolls. We had one earlier in the season but he scampered off during a slump and hasn't resurfaced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweet_lou_14
    It's amazing how dead this thread is, considering that the Rays are the toughest obstacle to championship #28.
    I think if the Yankees needed them to fail in order to get into the playoffs, there would be more chatter and discussion here.

    Right now it just looks like they'll cross the finish line pretty much together.

    Less drama than the two teams fighting for one spot.
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    good article on fangraphs about Maddon's managerial moves last night:

    http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index...n-spins-a-gem/

    Maddon used Rafael Soriano, Joaquin Benoit, and Grant Balfour in that order from the ninth inning onward. If asked to pluck the three finest relievers in the Rays’ pen, ostensibly that’s the correct selection.
    Maddon pinch hit Dioner Navarro for the designated hitter – Willy Aybar – in the eighth against CC Sabathia. Why? So Navarro could lay down a bunt and advance the runner to second with nobody out. Bunting in the situation is defensible given the run scoring environment. Navarro is among the team’s more skilled bat handlers while also being the best backstop defensively. Maddon traded the designated hitter spot to move Navarro behind the plate in the ninth.
    ^You might argue that he didn't actually think of the double-switch (instead planning to put in Jaso) until he put Jennings in to run for Shoppach (who was on first) already in the middle of Upton's at-bat (it was a 2-2 count), but clearly it worked out at Navarro's superior arm helped contain Gardner's attack on the bases.

    They mention some other things in the article, but I especially liked pinch-hitting Hawpe against Gaudin. As we all know, Gaudin is caca against lefties, and that looked like it was going to end poorly for us.

    also, the Rays are blessed with a lot of guys that can play multiple positions (This is ultimately caused by the intense level of competition and talent in their minor leagues; guys have to learn multiple positions in order to have a chance to advance. Many of them also have the natural talent and athleticism to do it.). This allows for really splendid double switches for handedness at the plate that makess the late innings real interesting watching.

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    ^How did Navarro's superior arm help contain Gardner's attack on the bases??

    I thought everything Navarro did was by the book, and therefor he should receive no extra credit last night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THEBOSS84
    ^How did Navarro's superior arm help contain Gardner's attack on the bases??
    Oh wait, you're right. that was Benoit. wow, gardner's fast. almost stole the base anyways.

    edit: also noticed that R.J. Anderson wrote that article. gross.
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    The Rays fall to 26-24 in one-run games, while the Yankees improve to 17-16.
    Is is me or is that a lot of 1-run games?

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    Quote Originally Posted by b-ball-lunachick
    Is is me or is that a lot of 1-run games?
    They can't hit, but they can pitch. They've had a lot of 1-0, 2-1 games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by b-ball-lunachick
    Is is me or is that a lot of 1-run games?
    It's on the high side but not that un usually 5 teams have played at least 50, 1 run games.

    The Yanks are acutally an oddity on the low end, their 33, 1-run games is 4 fewer than the next lowest AZ who has 37 then Pit with 41. Most teams are somewhere between 45 - 50 at this point of the seaosn looks like.
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    This is why Rays fans are lame. I know a transplanted NY'er who was a Mets fan/Yankee hater. He now is a Rays fan and has given up on Los Mets. Anyway, he wrote to me telling me he cant wait for October baseball so he can sit in the Trop with his flip flops on watching the Rays win it all, while I suffer in the cold October weather. Flip flops to a game? STFU!!!

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    They had Matt Joyce hitting behind Longoria last night. They had 3 guys with an OPS under .700 on Monday. How does this team score runs, ever?
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    Quote Originally Posted by teknetic
    They had Matt Joyce hitting behind Longoria last night. They had 3 guys with an OPS under .700 on Monday. How does this team score runs, ever?
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    Quote Originally Posted by conkermaniac
    They can't hit, but they can pitch. They've had a lot of 1-0, 2-1 games.
    Quote Originally Posted by Yankee Tripper
    It's on the high side but not that un usually 5 teams have played at least 50, 1 run games.

    The Yanks are acutally an oddity on the low end, their 33, 1-run games is 4 fewer than the next lowest AZ who has 37 then Pit with 41. Most teams are somewhere between 45 - 50 at this point of the seaosn looks like.
    okay thanks for the info guys.

    Quote Originally Posted by THEBOSS84
    Timely hits. Always.
    I tried to look in the splits for team hitting for RISP as a team and didn't see that...do you know what that is? I'm curious where they rank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YankeeFanSinceBucky
    This is why Rays fans are lame. I know a transplanted NY'er who was a Mets fan/Yankee hater. He now is a Rays fan and has given up on Los Mets. Anyway, he wrote to me telling me he cant wait for October baseball so he can sit in the Trop with his flip flops on watching the Rays win it all, while I suffer in the cold October weather. Flip flops to a game? STFU!!!
    this is the case with many of the fans I've seen/met in all my trips down there. Some Red Sox, Met and yankee fans say they are their second team because they can go see a lot of games cheap but I'm not sure how that works..

    you can tell your friend that they didn't even get 30,000 fans to come out for the Price/CC matchup..even Maddon though that was bad...

    btw - it must eat Maddon up to hear all those cheers there for the Yankees when he's already disappointed at the fan turnout. I know he's probably used to it but there wasn't really a rivalry between the two teams before...

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    Quote Originally Posted by b-ball-lunachick
    I tried to look in the splits for team hitting for RISP as a team and didn't see that...do you know what that is? I'm curious where they rank.
    Overall .250 / .336 / .408
    w RISP .266 / .368 / .425

    The are a little better but not crazy better.

    According to baseball reference they have a team OPS+ of 106 which isn't that far behind the Yanks 108.

    What they do well is steal a lot of bases (1st in the league with 160) and hit enough HRs (145) to drive people in.

    Where they are really good is not giving up free passes. They've allowed 173 fewer walk then they have received.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yankee Tripper
    Overall .250 / .336 / .408
    w RISP .266 / .368 / .425

    The are a little better but not crazy better.

    According to baseball reference they have a team OPS+ of 106 which isn't that far behind the Yanks 108.

    What they do well is steal a lot of bases (1st in the league with 160) and hit enough HRs (145) to drive people in.

    Where they are really good is not giving up free passes. They've allowed 173 fewer walk then they have received.
    http://nomaas.org/2010/09/yanksrays-...-for-division/

    This article says otherwise....who's right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by THEBOSS84
    http://nomaas.org/2010/09/yanksrays-...-for-division/

    This article says otherwise....who's right?
    Well I know B-R uses everyone who hit during the season. Nomaas may just be using starters.
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    I don't know but here are the BR pages

    http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/NYY/2010.shtml

    http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/TBR/2010.shtml

    It also has the Yanks with a 111 ERA+ to Tampa's 103 mostly due to park farctors.
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    B-ref had some kind of overhaul with YS park factors - all the hitters OPS+ from last year went down, while the ERA+ for pitchers went up. I guess they figured YS is a bigger hitter's park than they originally thought.

    I'm almost positive CC had an ERA+ of 130 last year...now B-ref has him at 138. I'm also almost positive Tex's OPS+ was over 145 but now it's at 140.

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    I checked CC's BR page yesterday night and it's definitely not the same as today.
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    Re: Tampa Bay Rays Thread

    Baseball Reference updated all the park factors, WAR numbers, etc. are all different too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DEADSOX
    Baseball Reference updated all the park factors, WAR numbers, etc. are all different too.
    HA, Cano was their WAR leader last week. He's not even top-5 anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THEBOSS84
    HA, Cano was their WAR leader last week. He's not even top-5 anymore.
    I hate when BR does a database update, something usually gets screwed up, I'm guessing the numbers will change again in a day or two?
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