So with there being no Hot Stove sub forum this year I figured it would be good to a place to discuss little rumors and goings ons at the Winter Meetings this week. Better than having a new thread for every little new rumor that pops up.
That being said, what should the Yankees goals be this week?
"Long Island is New Jersey with a GED." - Triumph the Insult Comic Dog.
1) Offer Dotel a contract
2) Offer Wilson a contract
3) Ignore Lily, Meche, Padilla's agents
trade Hughes and A-Rod for the rights to negotiate with Bubba.
Anonymous internet thread posters say the darndest things.
DFA Mariano and convert pavano to a closer
Ask Bubba's team to post him. Watch Boston win the bidding for 75 million dollars.
Wow, this thread turned interesting fast.
ok, in all seriousness:
1) Listen to offers for Pavano
2) Backup Catcher
3) Tell everyone to stop asking about our prospects.
Anonymous internet thread posters say the darndest things.
Originally Posted by cmaff05
Sounds like 6 great things to do this week.
If I had 3 wishes... One of my wishes would be to make a select few of you Pirates Fans.
Yankees need:
1 SP and1 RP.
Backup catcher
RH hitting 1B
1. Listen to offers for Pavano, but don't give him away.
2. Resign Dotel and Wilson.
3. Find a backup catcher.
4. Find some way to somehow screw up the Boston/Matsuzaka talks. Start rumors like in high school if necessary.
Everyone basically covered what I want to see in the works so yeah.....haha.
1. Add one starter: prefer Lilly or Meche,
2. Add one backup catcher, any suggestions?
3. Begin to replenish or resign some, not all, of the following released:
OF Bernie , Craig Wilson
RP Octavio , Sturtze
IF Cairo, Green
C Fasano
"All our dreams can come true, if we have the courage to pursue them." Walt Disney
Find out what Florida's intentions are. If Willis is on the block, make a reasonable offer. Dangle AROD as the home boy who can put fannies in the seats. Offer AROD at deep discount (salarywise) for Willis and Miguel Cabrera, throwing Melky and Sanchez into the deal.
Just dreaming, but that's what winter meetings are for.
1) Gauge the market for A-Rod
2) Trade for Garko
3) Get a lefty RP (Steve Kline possibly?)
4) The forementioned backup catcher and Pavano trade would be nice as well
Calmer than you are.
Well actually I'd rather see new threads when new things happen or are rumored to happen than sift through 80 page threads of banter about those rumors.
Seeing the same thread title for 3 months offers no info about whats happening now.
I'd consider Melky and Sanchez as the main pieces for Willis.I'd almost agree, but there's no way Melky and/pr Sanchez get "thrown into" any deal.
We're the ones that fleece teams, remember?
My dream (fantasy): Pettitte, NJ for 1st, Brian Schneider for backup C, Aaron Boone for Util. Dump Pavano and Mike Myers somehow. Bring back Vallone.
In hindsight, I suppose I'm too nostaligic for the circa 2003 Yanks.
Listen to the bell Grossbard, it tolls for thee.
Sign Pettitte, trade Pavano, re-sign Wilson, try Matsui out at 1B...
“I mean, people knew that Brown was out there, and that Randy was ornery all the time. And Pavano is whoever he is. But if you’re their manager, you can’t go out and write about them like that.”
some rumors i've heard
trade #1 Humberto Sanchez, Bret Gardner and Melky Cabrera for D TRAIN and Gaby Sanchez
trade#2 Carl Pavano and Cash for Aaron Rowand.
what else i would like to see happen:
sign Benjie Molina to a 3 yr contract until Nievies or Jesus Montero are ready to move up to the big club.
Sign Doug Mientkiewicz to a 1 yr deal. Defensive is something we havnt had @ 1b in yrs, and we have enough POP in the order to make p for his weak bat.
trade for Steve Kline
If the numbers were right i'd bet on the weather.
Trade 1 -- that is speculation from George King
Trade 2 -- What would we do with Rowand?
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If I had 3 wishes... One of my wishes would be to make a select few of you Pirates Fans.
I'd hate to give him a 3 year deal... That's an awful lot. Nieves is ready to move to the big club as he's something like 29 years old. The question is is he good enough? Jesus Montero won't be ready in 3 years.
I read that Mientkiewicz's defense has gone downhill.
Kline's a FA.
“I mean, people knew that Brown was out there, and that Randy was ornery all the time. And Pavano is whoever he is. But if you’re their manager, you can’t go out and write about them like that.”
I'd like to see an incentive-based contract offered to Gagne.
Are we all pretty much holding fast to the assumption that Zito is out of the question/going to the Mets?
"If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base." -Dave Barry
Boston will likely offer him the opportunity to close.
Wilbon: What is it specifically about Arod that guys like Schill and Trot Nixon just can't stand?
Kornheiser: He's better looking, he's cooler, he's got all the money. That's what they can't stand.
My winter meeting wish list: Try to...
0) trade(not dump) Pavano
1) trade for Garko.
2) sell Proctor & Karsten high and try to dump Henn and Myers.
3) sign Kline
4) get a good back up catcher who is primarily good at defence.
5) try not to trade Duncan and Kennedy unless it's a blowout deal.
Yep. I would be shocked if the Yankees decided to go after him. The only way they would get involved is if his price went way down - and that's not going to happen IMO.
“I mean, people knew that Brown was out there, and that Randy was ornery all the time. And Pavano is whoever he is. But if you’re their manager, you can’t go out and write about them like that.”
Really? They're ready to offer a guaranteed contract for him to close? Risky!
Molina looked over the hill last year. I doubt the Yankees have any interest in him.
Alex Rodriguez
Career OPS: .965
Postseason OPS: .977
Agreed. I think the decision to go after Igawa was in conjunction with the decision to back off Zito.
There's no available role for him in 2007. He's too expensive for, and wouldn't accept, a backup role.
So, who might be dangled as trade bait at the winter meetings?
Proctor and Melky.
Trade bait @ the meetings:
Pavano
Proctor
Karstens
Melky
Matsui
Giambi
If the numbers were right i'd bet on the weather.
ummm, no
no one is interested in trading for Giambi and Matsui is still owed $39 million over 3 seasons
SI: Do you have a secret ambition?
Igawa: That's secret.
"They should just practice during the regular season and show up for the playoffs -Ichiro on the Yankees
you cant really call pavano a trade bait.
Exactly, it's an insult to nightcrawlers everywhere
Which is a very solid value in this market. If we could get good pitching for him, I'd think about that, although I'm not taking into account all the Japanese money bull................ and whatever
I mean, the Angels and Dodgers want a power hitting outfielder, I'd at least listen to what they had to say. Since the Red Sox said the Angels wouldn't offer enough for Manny, I doubt it works out, but I'd see what was out there
Better bring an expensive stethescope.
Let the kids play.
You are also not taking into account he has a full no-trade clause.
Matsui is not going anyway. I am surprised that some people still don't get that and continue to bring his name up as trade bait.
Andddd it turns out you are completely right
Maybe, but at this point, I don't know how the two can be mentioned in the same sentence.
Nothing to say
what about Rasner, Clippard, and Sanchez as trade bait?
It seems the Yanks have a lot of pitching talent near the surface of the majors. There isn't, and won't be, room for them all. Some of them should be dealt at some point.
Also, if we pursue someone like Garko, does that make Duncan expendable?
If they trade Sanchez, they better get a star or near star under 30 in return.
Nothing to say
Agreed. We traded a star (albeit not young) to get him.
I don't know about that:
Johnson - contract expires after 2007
Mussina - after 2008
Pavano - after 2008
Add to that the fact that all 3 of these guys are injury risks ranging from moderate (Mussina) to catastrophic (Pavano), and there should be plenty of room for the likes of Hughes, Sanchez and Clippard to work their way in over the next few years. If Igawa doesn't sign, that's another spot (though it sounds like he's a likely sign).
I have no problem with trading Rasner, though I doubt he has much value.
Trade candidates:
A. Rodriguez (yes, some baseball executives think there's a possibility)
Proctor
Pavano
H. Sanchez
Melky
Clippard
Duncan
Cox
Karstens
Rasner
Beam
Myers
Needs:
#1 or #2 starter (Weaver? E. Santana? Billingsly? Willis ? Peavy?)
1b for the future (Garko? Hillenbrand? Wilson?)
backup catcher (Shoppach? Bard?)
lefty reliever (Schoenweiss? Henn? Villone? trade?)
3b if they trade A-rod (Wood? Betemit? Hillenbrand? Figgins?)
Bench (Figgins? Keep Melky? Shoppach? Hairston Jr.?)
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