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RhodyYanksFan
05-07-07, 09:51 AM
Sopranos fans call that "the second half of season 6" :)
Or every season since 3.
Eh, I would of preferred just banging it out in 2 seasons.
Oooh Lou's wrong yet again.
So Ben wasn't really born on the island?
CptCrunch
05-09-07, 09:15 PM
So Ben wasn't really born on the island?
Guess not.
Locke's a total psycho now.
xenochimera
05-09-07, 09:34 PM
aww damn juliette, i wished she didnt do that cuz it would be satisfying sayid doing his masterwork on her while jack watches.
I'm calling it right now, Locke's gonna get gunned down, Alex gave him that gun for a reason.
I'm sure some of the previous others have questioned jacob's existence and have forced ben to take them. He probably has and I'm guessing they've all been killed....by Ben, who then returns and says that Jacob said they weren't worthy...I just have a feeling Locke is done.
xenochimera
05-09-07, 09:39 PM
hmm that chick that was hitting on ben was russo??
In the series Ben looks older than most the other people and in htis flashback he looks younger.
Soriambi
05-09-07, 09:42 PM
This show had made me jump twice today, with his mom in the window and with this guy. :lol:
Haha Ben is psycho.
Edit: Or not.
CptCrunch
05-09-07, 09:48 PM
Poltergeist?
That voice sounded ALOT like the first guy from the hatch, the guy that taught Desmond how to push that button.
I don't know why but Chatty Kathy makes me laugh everytime I hear it.
Probably due to Beerfest.
xenochimera
05-09-07, 09:59 PM
wow no ................ing way locke's dead.
Soriambi
05-09-07, 10:00 PM
I'm calling it right now, Locke's gonna get gunned down, Alex gave him that gun for a reason.
Good call, though they left it open for him to still be alive. I loved tonight's episode.
Ben's line at the end about, "Well I hope Jacob helps you" tells me we have not seen the last of Locke.
NYDCYankee
05-09-07, 10:02 PM
I am not sure Locke can't heal himself.
Can't believe that....WTF is Jacob all about.
A Dharma experiment gone wrong? Invisible? WTF? lol Maybe Jacob is the smoke monster? Who knows...
Soriambi
05-09-07, 10:08 PM
Maybe Jacob is the smoke monster?
I was thinking that, too.
Soriambi
05-09-07, 10:09 PM
I am not sure Locke can't heal himself.
I'm sure he'll be okay. Otherwise, they probably would have just had Ben shoot him again.
Casey at the Bat
05-09-07, 10:15 PM
Damn you East-Coasters and your three hours early spoilers! Why do I keep opening this thread when Lost hasn't been aired yet on the Left Side?:-po'd-:
NYDCYankee
05-09-07, 10:22 PM
I thinke Alex gave Locke a gun because she knew Ben would try to kill him.
NYDCYankee
05-09-07, 10:22 PM
So is Richard, Jacob?
It's pretty bizarre, he doesn't age at least. It's almost like they are in Neverland.
NYDCYankee
05-09-07, 11:41 PM
Evangeline Lily was just on Kimmell and she said that when she found out a big revelation from the season finale she got goosebumps.
Casey at the Bat
05-10-07, 01:34 AM
Ben shot locke because Locke was a threat to his power. Ben's power over the others is based on the premise that only Ben can talk to, and hear, Jacob. Ben is the connection between Jacob (who, I assume is the power of the island) and the Others. Since Locke showed up, Ben has been trying to discredit Locke, because he fears that Locke is going to take over his power (as evidenced by last episode when he told the others that he was wrong, that Locke wasn't the one, when Locke would not kill his father). But Locke has proved him wrong every time. That is why Ben looked so surprised (and scared) when Locke showed up with a body over his back. Ben never thought he could do it.
As suggested earlier in the season, the Others don't like Ben, but they have to put up with him because he is the only connection to Jacob. They would like to get rid of him, but not until he can be replaced. That is why no one helped Ben when Locke beat up Eyepatch guy. The saw Locke as a possible replacement, which Ben noticed right away. Once Ben knew Locke heard Jacob, he knew that he was going to kill Locke to preserve his hold on the Others. If (when?) Locke ends up alive, Ben will be in a really bad position, and the Others, as well as the Losties, will all have to choose sides with the choices being Ben and Locke. They are both kinda crazy though, so who do you choose?
Of course, this is all just speculation by me. I could be TOTALLY off.
NYDCYankee
05-10-07, 03:12 AM
Ok this might be a real crazy notion but maybe the island is Atlantis. If Richard doesn't age and I am assuming the other hostiles don't either then that probably means that they are a very, very old civilization.
Also, we have that big statue of a foot and that Greek looking column that Locke's dad was tied too, that makes me think there is some connection to a lost civilization or something.
Ben shot locke because Locke was a threat to his power. Ben's power over the others is based on the premise that only Ben can talk to, and hear, Jacob. Ben is the connection between Jacob (who, I assume is the power of the island) and the Others. Since Locke showed up, Ben has been trying to discredit Locke, because he fears that Locke is going to take over his power (as evidenced by last episode when he told the others that he was wrong, that Locke wasn't the one, when Locke would not kill his father). But Locke has proved him wrong every time. That is why Ben looked so surprised (and scared) when Locke showed up with a body over his back. Ben never thought he could do it.
As suggested earlier in the season, the Others don't like Ben, but they have to put up with him because he is the only connection to Jacob. They would like to get rid of him, but not until he can be replaced. That is why no one helped Ben when Locke beat up Eyepatch guy. The saw Locke as a possible replacement, which Ben noticed right away. Once Ben knew Locke heard Jacob, he knew that he was going to kill Locke to preserve his hold on the Others. If (when?) Locke ends up alive, Ben will be in a really bad position, and the Others, as well as the Losties, will all have to choose sides with the choices being Ben and Locke. They are both kinda crazy though, so who do you choose?
Of course, this is all just speculation by me. I could be TOTALLY off.
That's a great analysis.
Ben has daddy issues, which is somewhat of a prevailing theme on Lost.
I know that they made it quite obvious to show us that Richard was not aging, at all.
Did anyone else catch the person sitting in Jacob's chair? I'll see if I can find a screen shot of it on another site. Older looking guy, with long hair and beard. Almost looked like Jesus.
edit.....found it.....slow-mo vid and screencaps
http://losteastereggs.blogspot.com/2007/05/11-frames-of-jacob.html
Mezmerize
05-10-07, 11:41 AM
That's a great analysis.
Ben has daddy issues, which is somewhat of a prevailing theme on Lost.
I know that they made it quite obvious to show us that Richard was not aging, at all.
Did anyone else catch the person sitting in Jacob's chair? I'll see if I can find a screen shot of it on another site. Older looking guy, with long hair and beard. Almost looked like Jesus.
edit.....found it.....slow-mo vid and screencaps
http://losteastereggs.blogspot.com/2007/05/11-frames-of-jacob.html
It's Jim Cavezial! That's the big surprise! :D
OxDiesel
05-10-07, 10:40 PM
Ok this might be a real crazy notion but maybe the island is Atlantis. If Richard doesn't age and I am assuming the other hostiles don't either then that probably means that they are a very, very old civilization.
Also, we have that big statue of a foot and that Greek looking column that Locke's dad was tied too, that makes me think there is some connection to a lost civilization or something.
I like this. Probably won't work out that way, but I like this.
The show title works on so many different levels.
OxDiesel
05-10-07, 10:43 PM
Ben shot locke because Locke was a threat to his power. Ben's power over the others is based on the premise that only Ben can talk to, and hear, Jacob. Ben is the connection between Jacob (who, I assume is the power of the island) and the Others. Since Locke showed up, Ben has been trying to discredit Locke, because he fears that Locke is going to take over his power (as evidenced by last episode when he told the others that he was wrong, that Locke wasn't the one, when Locke would not kill his father). But Locke has proved him wrong every time. That is why Ben looked so surprised (and scared) when Locke showed up with a body over his back. Ben never thought he could do it.
As suggested earlier in the season, the Others don't like Ben, but they have to put up with him because he is the only connection to Jacob. They would like to get rid of him, but not until he can be replaced. That is why no one helped Ben when Locke beat up Eyepatch guy. The saw Locke as a possible replacement, which Ben noticed right away. Once Ben knew Locke heard Jacob, he knew that he was going to kill Locke to preserve his hold on the Others. If (when?) Locke ends up alive, Ben will be in a really bad position, and the Others, as well as the Losties, will all have to choose sides with the choices being Ben and Locke. They are both kinda crazy though, so who do you choose?
Of course, this is all just speculation by me. I could be TOTALLY off.
Well, they have made a point to mention "choosing sides" in the "ONLY __ EPISODES LEFT!!" commercials many times...
HOLY MOTHER OF GOD!!! JUST FINISHED WATCHING IT!!
BEST.EPISODE.EVER.
that is all
p.s. locke is not dead..i hope
This show had made me jump twice today, with his mom in the window and with this guy. :lol:
You too huh? Yeah my heart was racing like crazy.
You know....those screen shots, they look a lot like John Locke with beard and long hair.
You know....those screen shots, they look a lot like John Locke with beard and long hair.
Yes! I was telling Soriambi that.
Luvtino
05-12-07, 04:11 PM
It absolutely looks like Locke. Good call. VERY interesting.
Ben is definitely afraid of Locke's power. His people didn't do a thing when Locke shot Patchy. They all just stood there and didn't interfere a bit. Ben's also jealous of how Locke's body has reacted to the island as well. Ben made Locke kill his father just like he killed his. Difference is that Locke really couldn't do it. I wonder if that ties into the whole you are "good" theme.
I've been on the LOST forums all day reading a giant thread about Annie. I'm on the "she's dannielle" theory's side. Here's what someone posted:
Hi, I was reading the Danielle=Annie theory and the first thing I though is that it was crap. Ridiculous!!! Annie is blond, for starters!!! But then I saw the pic, and ben and annie as kids shared the same color of hair, light brown hair. You know how your hair goes darker as you grow up.
But Danielle came to the island in a boat, right? Researching and stuff. And they crashed, right? So the remains of the boat are... where? She killed all of her crew, including the father of alex, right? And the graves are...where? And the disease, any of the losties has gotten sick? I bet you even forgot about the sickness plot line by now! The others came one night and took alex away, and we confirmed this in what flashback? There is no evidence at all to support Danielle's story, am I right?
So I opened to the idea of danielle= annie for a second. The idea of Danielle living alone for 16 years on the island and NEVER EVER HAVING AN ENCOUNTER WITH AN OTHER or one of many dharma stations always seemed kinda weird to me. She said that she never saw an other, but hear them in season 1. Now, when prompted to walk to patchy's hideout, she said she have survived on the island avoiding such encounters. Wait, I though you said you never saw anyone! How can you avoid someone without knowing where he/she is?
So, lets say ben and annie got married. say they left the island for a while, on a mission. We know others can get out in the sub (well, now they cant, thanks a lot locke). So the couple goes out, and do the nasty. Alex is born, nobody dies. All of this happens 16 years ago, while ben was a mole in the dharma initiative. Maybe the marriage wasn't going ok at the moment, i don't know. So ben says to anne " i get the dougther, and you can keep your wicked life. Get out, hide, and lets hope the hostiles never find out you are the only dharma recruit that will survive the purge. I'll never say I let you go"; and she has 16 years to go crazy for isolation and missing is dougther - oh, and put a repetitive message saying that "THEY ARE ALL DEAD!" Maybe that was her way of entering 77, you know?
Maybe that's not what happen, but still, my two final points: 1) Danielle knows a lot more. Damn, the losties doesn't have a year on the island, and have found out a lot. 16 years, and not find one dharma station? Not buying it. The island is big, it's just not that big; and 2) The dharma initiative is still at work. Or at least that's what they think in the outside world. For what other reason would you sent a whole big box with dharma supplies just a few weeks ago (in lost time)? that 77 entering is gonna bring a all lot of dharma guards sometime, or at least one guy to check things out.
Discuss!!!
RhodyYanksFan
05-14-07, 03:28 PM
What does it mean by "entering 77"?
I don't buy Russo as the little girl in Ben's flashback, but I don't buy her "I never saw any other people on the island" line either.
Mezmerize
05-14-07, 07:21 PM
I don't think Jacob is Locke. I think it's either Alvin Hanso or Kelvin (the guy that taught Desmond to push the button)
I don't think Jacob is Locke. I think it's either Alvin Hanso or Kelvin (the guy that taught Desmond to push the button)
Kelvin died.
yanksphan
05-14-07, 07:51 PM
Kelvin died.
Yeah, so did Mikhail.
NYDCYankee
05-14-07, 07:51 PM
Kelvin died.
I'm not sure that matters.
NYDCYankee
05-14-07, 07:53 PM
I don't buy Russo as the little girl in Ben's flashback, but I don't buy her "I never saw any other people on the island" line either.
I think there is a small possibility that Annie is Kate.
Kate's dad was in the military and remember Ana Lucia found a US Army knife on the island.
Pyewacket
05-14-07, 08:40 PM
If Danielle is Annie, why would she pretend to be French? Why go through the trouble of faking an accent, when she could just claim to have been with a group of American scientists?
I think we're overthinking here. Why can't Jacob just be Jacob and Annie be Annie?
On Annie however we have not gotten closure on her. There is something more to her but I'm sure it has nothing to do with Rosseau or Kate.
Yankeeah
05-15-07, 12:00 AM
I think we're overthinking here. Why can't Jacob just be Jacob and Annie be Annie?
On Annie however we have not gotten closure on her. There is something more to her but I'm sure it has nothing to do with Rosseau or Kate.
This is Lost. Things are not simple.
For you fans that love the spoilers, aintitcoolnews.com has a poster on the site that drops a big time hint at how the remaining seasons may play out, or at least what the premise may be. I skimmed through the site, and only caught a tiny glimpse of it. No way to know if this guy is legit or not.
Yankeeah
05-15-07, 04:04 PM
How big of a spoiler we talking here? If anything you say would reveal a spoiler, just say that, I don't want to ruin the rest of the season.
How big of a spoiler we talking here? If anything you say would reveal a spoiler, just say that, I don't want to ruin the rest of the season.
well, for the most part, the article gives little tidbits of info that will happen over the remainder of the season. Mostly yes/no type answers to questions. However, in the talkback section is where the big reveal comes. I started to read just a bit of it, and x'd out. I don't really want to know either.
Yankeeah
05-15-07, 05:53 PM
well, for the most part, the article gives little tidbits of info that will happen over the remainder of the season. Mostly yes/no type answers to questions. However, in the talkback section is where the big reveal comes. I started to read just a bit of it, and x'd out. I don't really want to know either.
Thanks, I'll read it after the season ends probably.
NYDCYankee
05-15-07, 06:14 PM
Thanks, I'll read it after the season ends probably.
I wrote this earlier. Kate was on Jimmy Kimmel and she said that the big reveal in the finale gave her goosebumps.
I wrote this earlier. Kate was on Jimmy Kimmel and she said that the big reveal in the finale gave her goosebumps.
Has to be about the island right?
NYDCYankee
05-15-07, 10:40 PM
Has to be about the island right?
Not sure, could be. It was something that surprised her for sure.
I'm pretty angry at myself for not having the will-power to stay away from the spoilers. Usually with Lost and Sopranos, I stay away. Anything else is fine.
Anyways, if it is what I think it is then, yes, it is a goosebump inducing twist.
Yeah so my friend read the spoilers....says it is INSANE!!
NYDCYankee
05-16-07, 04:36 PM
I'm pretty angry at myself for not having the will-power to stay away from the spoilers. Usually with Lost and Sopranos, I stay away. Anything else is fine.
Anyways, if it is what I think it is then, yes, it is a goosebump inducing twist.
Kate doesn't lie.
Luvtino
05-16-07, 05:34 PM
After all the talk about Charlie being a goner he'd better end up dead. Just kidding. :lol: I actually like his character and want him to stick around, but he probably bites the dust next week. That will be really hard on Claire and Hurley.
I would also venture a guess that Naomi isn't going to be around much longer. I am interested to see what happens with Locke. He wants to stay on the island and if they are all trying to find a way off he will block them any way he can.
Yankeeah
05-16-07, 09:42 PM
Who is that girl that called Charlie a hero? She seemed familiar
If I think what happens at the end is what I think this is gonna be one of the saddest episodes ever.
TheManKnownAsMecca
05-16-07, 09:46 PM
Not only was he the principal on "The Head of the Class" but he is one heck of a shooter.
Luvtino
05-16-07, 09:49 PM
Who is that girl that called Charlie a hero? She seemed familiar
I am pretty sure that was Sayid's girlfriend.
Wow...didn't see that coming at all.
xenochimera
05-16-07, 10:05 PM
heads up on the finale, watch everything carefully, theres more than one mega twist. however, it does still leave a lot to be desired (unanswered questions.)
heads up on the finale, watch everything carefully, theres more than one mega twist. however, it does still leave a lot to be desired (unanswered questions.)
Lol that's what season finales do.
TheManKnownAsMecca
05-16-07, 10:14 PM
Lol that's what season finales do.
Don't make fun of the Xeno: Warrior Princess!
xenochimera
05-16-07, 10:17 PM
Don't make fun of the Xeno: Warrior Princess!
did cro cop got knocked the F out again?:P
also, in the preview when jack said i love you, anyone else saw he was talking to Sayid?
also, in the preview when jack said i love you, anyone else saw he was talking to Sayid?
Awww man is that what gave Kate goosebumps? Broke Back Island?
TheManKnownAsMecca
05-16-07, 10:45 PM
did cro cop got knocked the F out again?:P
also, in the preview when jack said i love you, anyone else saw he was talking to Sayid?
That was Kate, not Sayid... :roflmao:
OxDiesel
05-16-07, 10:49 PM
Not only was he the principal on "The Head of the Class" but he is one heck of a shooter.
Uh-uh. Dr. Johnny Fever is not on the island.
Bernard was the Fonzie-obsessed doctor who delivered Phoebe's triplets on Friends.
CLASSIC "that guy" actor...
Has anyone seen Michael Emerson on CW11 in the morning the other day?
She pressed him about what Jacob is and he didn't have a clear answer, which is not a surprise since I don't believe anyone outside of the writers know which direction they're taking Jacob....HOWEVER when pressed about Locke and him surviving, he joked around saying "Well he's hurt very badly"...however what he said after was actually kind of intriguing. Along the lines of "Well John sacraficed something a long time ago which may help him now"...
I don't know how serious he is, but I'm assuming Lockes survival is a "lock" now. My first guess as to what he sacraficed would be his kidney. No serious organs damaged by the gunshot? Who knows?
Yankeeah
05-16-07, 10:50 PM
did cro cop got knocked the F out again?:P
He's still KO'd
Has anyone seen Michael Emerson on CW11 in the morning the other day?
She pressed him about what Jacob is and he didn't have a clear answer, which is not a surprise since I don't believe anyone outside of the writers know which direction they're taking Jacob....HOWEVER when pressed about Locke and him surviving, he joked around saying "Well he's hurt very badly"...however what he said after was actually kind of intriguing. Along the lines of "Well John sacraficed something a long time ago which may help him now"...
I don't know how serious he is, but I'm assuming Lockes survival is a "lock" now. My first guess as to what he sacraficed would be his kidney. No serious organs damaged by the gunshot? Who knows?
Boone?
Boone?
That's another interesting theory. I would be surprised if the sacrafice is either the kidney or Boone, if in fact Emerson's comments are to be taken word for word accurate.
Two Things:
1. Is it just me or is Clair getting hotter with each passing episode?
2. Those two girls in the looking glass....they seemed to be trapped down there for a while because they looked very paranoid and such. Two girls trapped in an underground station...hawt.
xenochimera
05-16-07, 11:54 PM
Two Things:
1. Is it just me or is Clair getting hotter with each passing episode?
2. Those two girls in the looking glass....they seemed to be trapped down there for a while because they looked very paranoid and such. Two girls trapped in an underground station...hawt.
1. its just you.
2. nawt.
Luvtino
05-17-07, 01:15 AM
This was a sad one. I really want Charlie to live, but would be shocked it happened. I think the whole hero thing was foreshadowing that he would also die a hero. It was also so touching when he kissed Claire, gave a bear hug to Hurley, and told the baby he loved him. I knew he would leave his ring to the baby as they were his family and he was passing it on. :(
savafan
05-17-07, 01:51 AM
Not only was he the principal on "The Head of the Class" but he is one heck of a shooter.
He was the principal on "Growing Pains"
TheManKnownAsMecca
05-17-07, 06:12 AM
He was the principal on "Growing Pains"
Ah yes that was it. My bad.
I am pretty sure that was Sayid's girlfriend.
It certainly was.
Pretty decent episode.....more filler then anything, just preparing us for the finale. Charlie is safe for now, but I don't imagine he makes it through next week. It should be interesting to see what these two girls are doing down there.
Also, I wonder if Desmond will swim down there when he wakes up, or if he'll paddle back to the island, and tell everyone that Charlie is dead (as he assumes he has to die).
Next Wednesday can't come soon enough.
NYDCYankee
05-17-07, 07:37 AM
Wow, great stuff.
I think Juliet could have just lied about those girls in the underground station and known they were down there the whole time.
NYDCYankee
05-17-07, 08:15 AM
Ok, the station is called The Looking Glass, hmm I wonder what that station does. I wonder what happens when you go "through" it?
Seriously though, doesn't it seem like that is where the submarine docks and then there is some type of door or something that takes them back to the real world, and vice versa.
YankeePride1967
05-17-07, 08:43 AM
I wonder if/when Michael will return to the show?
NYDCYankee
05-17-07, 08:58 AM
I wonder if/when Michael will return to the show?
I was just thinking that.
I wonder if Ben gave Michael coordinates to the Looking Glass station.
Luvtino
05-17-07, 04:18 PM
I think Walt is going to play a part in all of this. We haven't seen him in so long and it's time for him to come back. They clearly wanted him for a reason and we know he's bright and had some special powers so he has value. My guess is his heart is with the victims of the crash not those that kidnapped him. This could be me just reading into things, but I noticed they had the doggie on a leash and made a point of showing him being taken with them to safety. I think that was a clue. Another option is that I have "lost" my mind. :D
Bro Jackhammer
05-17-07, 04:45 PM
Seriously though, doesn't it seem like that is where the submarine docks and then there is some type of door or something that takes them back to the real world, and vice versa.
Absolutely. 'Looking Glass' isn't a red herring here, I bet...
Bern Baby Be
05-17-07, 05:07 PM
I think I read somewhere that Michael and Walt will be back next season.
Casey at the Bat
05-17-07, 05:27 PM
Why didn't they just cut the cord to the looking glass to disable it?
NYDCYankee
05-17-07, 05:32 PM
Why didn't they just cut the cord to the looking glass to disable it?
No guarantee that's a powercord. Maybe it is just an anchor for the island or an anchor or the station is an anchor for the island.
xenochimera
05-17-07, 08:54 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9mlcl78-X8&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fbbs%2Eclutchfans%2Enet%2Fshowthread%2Ephp%3Fp%3D2938256
canadien promo
I think Walt is going to play a part in all of this. We haven't seen him in so long and it's time for him to come back. They clearly wanted him for a reason and we know he's bright and had some special powers so he has value. My guess is his heart is with the victims of the crash not those that kidnapped him. This could be me just reading into things, but I noticed they had the doggie on a leash and made a point of showing him being taken with them to safety. I think that was a clue. Another option is that I have "lost" my mind. :D
I agree completely. They wanted Walt for a reason. I remember watching a season 2 recap and seeing Ben, when he was being held in the hatch. He said to the losties that they would NEVER trade Walt for him...there has to be a good reason. I agree that walt should and probably will come back at some point. The only thing that makes it odd, is that he's probably grown a good deal since season 2.
Soriambi
05-17-07, 10:02 PM
I don't think the girls in the underground station were Others. (Well, they were Others, but I think they're other Others, not the group we know about that is led by Jacob/Ben.)
I don't think the girls in the underground station were others.
Agreed. Underwater lesbian station.
I agree completely. They wanted Walt for a reason. I remember watching a season 2 recap and seeing Ben, when he was being held in the hatch. He said to the losties that they would NEVER trade Walt for him...there has to be a good reason. I agree that walt should and probably will come back at some point. The only thing that makes it odd, is that he's probably grown a good deal since season 2.
Writers said back in season 1 they chose him for that reason.
houstonnewyawka
05-17-07, 11:23 PM
I don't think the girls in the underground station were Others. (Well, they were Others, but I think they're other Others, not the group we know about that is led by Jacob/Ben.)
Maybe they're just stuck down there since Locke blew up the submarine?
Anyone catch what the creators said tonight? "They're DEFINITELY NOT in purgatory, these are real living breathing people somewhere in the space time continuum". Hmmmm...that time travel theory looking more and more likely.
NYDCYankee
05-18-07, 12:27 AM
Anyone catch what the creators said tonight? "They're DEFINITELY NOT in purgatory, these are real living breathing people somewhere in the space time continuum". Hmmmm...that time travel theory looking more and more likely.
Don't tell Lou.
Don't tell Lou.
Oh why would he care? It's not like he watches the show anymore. :rollseyes:
CanoForPresident
05-18-07, 10:05 AM
also, in the preview when jack said i love you, anyone else saw he was talking to Sayid?
:lol: Hilarious!
BTW - The Sequel to alice in wonderland is called through the looking glass, which deals with parallel stories and time running backwards. Kinda sounds familar doesnt it?
nhyankeefan
05-20-07, 05:31 AM
Two Things:
1. Is it just me or is Clair getting hotter with each passing episode?
2. Those two girls in the looking glass....they seemed to be trapped down there for a while because they looked very paranoid and such. Two girls trapped in an underground station...hawt.
Clair is definitely getting hotter, she looked awesome in that episode.
RhodyYanksFan
05-20-07, 08:16 PM
I think Walt is going to play a part in all of this. We haven't seen him in so long and it's time for him to come back. They clearly wanted him for a reason and we know he's bright and had some special powers so he has value. My guess is his heart is with the victims of the crash not those that kidnapped him. This could be me just reading into things, but I noticed they had the doggie on a leash and made a point of showing him being taken with them to safety. I think that was a clue. Another option is that I have "lost" my mind. :D
But they've only been there for 3 months. The actor who plays Walt has grown 3 years. People don't change much from 30-33, but from 12-15? It'll be a big stretch to have Walt come back as a 12 year old.
BTW Claire looked the best when she was all goth. Don't like her with bangs.
Yankeeah
05-20-07, 09:09 PM
But they've only been there for 3 months. The actor who plays Walt has grown 3 years. People don't change much from 30-33, but from 12-15? It'll be a big stretch to have Walt come back as a 12 year old.
BTW Claire looked the best when she was all goth. Don't like her with bangs.
He'll come back as a 15 year old and he world will have lived 3 years, but the island has only lived X amount of days.
CanoForPresident
05-22-07, 02:51 AM
He'll come back as a 15 year old and he world will have lived 3 years, but the island has only lived X amount of days.
You got it right with this post.
I'm gonna say this to everyone, MAKE SURE you do NOT miss this weeks finale. The ending will absoloutley blow-your-mind.
Yeah I haven't read the spoilers but judging from what everyone's been saying and the freakin obvious clues everywhere...time has past our losties bye.
NYDCYankee
05-22-07, 03:58 AM
I heard Hurley slips on a mango peel and when he stands up he has a coconut bra on.
I heard Hurley slips on a mango peel and when he stands up he has a coconut bra on.
God knows he could use one.
CanoForPresident
05-22-07, 04:42 AM
Yeah I haven't read the spoilers but judging from what everyone's been saying and the freakin obvious clues everywhere...time has past our losties bye.
Yeah, the big tip was the back tracking in one of the earlier episodes (the one where Alex, Kate and Sawyer go to save Carl.)
They're going to do the final cut of the episode tomorrow afternoon so things certinaly subject to change. I don't put alot of weight on spoilers, especially since a show like LOST will send out fake ones to shock their watchers, but I've heard things from a very reliable source on what will happen, and shes never let me down before.
Yeah, the big tip was the back tracking in one of the earlier episodes (the one where Alex, Kate and Sawyer go to save Carl.)
They're going to do the final cut of the episode tomorrow afternoon so things certinaly subject to change. I don't put alot of weight on spoilers, especially since a show like LOST will send out fake ones to shock their watchers, but I've heard things from a very reliable source on what will happen, and shes never let me down before.
Wait...they're gonna shoot the final scene tomorrow afternoon???? Or are they just gonna edit the final version of the ending tomorrow?
CanoForPresident
05-22-07, 05:18 AM
Wait...they're gonna shoot the final scene tomorrow afternoon???? Or are they just gonna edit the final version of the ending tomorrow?
they're doing the final edits tomorrow afternoon. No way would they shoot a final scene the day before they air it. It was wrapped last week though.
NYDCYankee
05-22-07, 05:23 AM
they're doing the final edits tomorrow afternoon. No way would they shoot a final scene the day before they air it. It was wrapped last week though.
Shooting had to be wrapped up earlier than that, some of the actors were in the continental US last week promoting the show.
By the way Charlie was on Conan last night and said we would get a resolution to the whole Desmond Charlie thing in the finale.
CanoForPresident
05-22-07, 05:27 AM
Shooting had to be wrapped up earlier than that, some of the actors were in the continental US last week promoting the show.
By the way Charlie was on Conan last night and said we would get a resolution to the whole Desmond Charlie thing in the finale.
Maybe it was the week before, I thought i heard last week though. I will say that not all the actors and actresses were in the last scene (sequence)- so those who were promoting may not be the ones who are in the scene.
The conclusion to the desmond/charlie thing is pretty obvious.
RhodyYanksFan
05-22-07, 07:00 AM
By the way Charlie was on Conan last night and said we would get a resolution to the whole Desmond Charlie thing in the finale.
Hopefully with Charlie's demise.
Yankeeah
05-22-07, 08:52 AM
This is gonna suck, we're gonna get some huge monsterous cliff hanger, then have to wait till like 2008 for a new episode.
RhodyYanksFan
05-22-07, 09:02 AM
This is gonna suck, we're gonna get some huge monsterous cliff hanger, then have to wait till like 2008 for a new episode.
Could be worse...
xenochimera
05-22-07, 01:22 PM
Could be worse...
yeah like ruining the flow know what i mean?
Luvtino
05-22-07, 01:44 PM
It is too long of a wait for the new season. Of course I will still watch, but I wish they would just schedule it for 2 seasons versus 3 as that would have been better for the show and the fans. I would have had it come back in September 2007 for a run and then back in January 2008 for a run. Do the same thing next season and call it a wrap. This show lost too many viewers due to a crappy schedule. That's a shame especially as it is such a fantastic show.
RhodyYanksFan
05-22-07, 07:06 PM
It is too long of a wait for the new season. Of course I will still watch, but I wish they would just schedule it for 2 seasons versus 3 as that would have been better for the show and the fans. I would have had it come back in September 2007 for a run and then back in January 2008 for a run. Do the same thing next season and call it a wrap. This show lost too many viewers due to a crappy schedule. That's a shame especially as it is such a fantastic show.
I don't see the big deal. Waiting until January is a fair trade off for a repeat-free season. I love how 24 works.
I liked it how they did it this season. 8 episodes in the fall is just enough to keep us happy and then the non stop real season in the spring.
RhodyYanksFan
05-22-07, 07:11 PM
I liked it how they did it this season. 8 episodes in the fall is just enough to keep us happy and then the non stop real season in the spring.
But next year is only 16 episodes so they might as well do them all in a row.
YankeePride1967
05-22-07, 07:11 PM
I liked it how they did it this season. 8 episodes in the fall is just enough to keep us happy and then the non stop real season in the spring.
Well, the next three seasons you'll get half your wish. No shows in the fall, but 16 straight episodes in the spring.
I know it's 16 episodes and I hate that. This is year it's only 22. Idk why they're cutting the show like this.
YankeePride1967
05-22-07, 07:20 PM
I know it's 16 episodes and I hate that. This is year it's only 22. Idk why they're cutting the show like this.
From what I read, ABC wanted the show on for three more seasons. The creators/writers of Lost wanted to keep it as close to 100 episodes total as possible (they will go over). Doing it as 16 episodes is the compromise.
From what I read, ABC wanted the show on for three more seasons. The creators/writers of Lost wanted to keep it as close to 100 episodes total as possible (they will go over). Doing it as 16 episodes is the compromise.
How many episodes in total is Lost gonna be? If it was 108 then that'd make sense.
YankeePride1967
05-22-07, 08:34 PM
How many episodes in total is Lost gonna be? If it was 108 then that'd make sense.
I think it is a bit more than that. I think around 112-113 or so.
NYDCYankee
05-22-07, 10:43 PM
Hurley is on Jimmy Kimmel tonight.
Luvtino
05-22-07, 11:36 PM
How many episodes in total is Lost gonna be? If it was 108 then that'd make sense.
They wanted to end it at 108, but the writers said they couldn't wrap it up by then. I believe it will top out at 114. :)
NYDCYankee
05-22-07, 11:59 PM
Hurley said we will see Walt "very soon".
NYDCYankee
05-23-07, 01:46 AM
Great Lost article
http://www.salon.com/ent/tv/feature/2007/05/23/lost/
RhodyYanksFan
05-23-07, 09:00 AM
Look at who's in the Looking Glass station....
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/6863/lost323lookingglass02ck3.jpg
NYDCYankee
05-23-07, 09:01 AM
Ummm is that Cindy?
Or whatever the stewardess' name is.
RhodyYanksFan
05-23-07, 09:07 AM
Ummm is that Cindy?
Or whatever the stewardess' name is.
Nope...it's the lady Sawyer conned, had a baby with, and helped Kate.
NYDCYankee
05-23-07, 09:12 AM
Oh wow you're right.
Yankeeah
05-23-07, 09:59 AM
Ummm is that Cindy?
Or whatever the stewardess' name is.
When it aired, I thought it was her too
CanoForPresident
05-23-07, 10:24 AM
Hurley said we will see Walt "very soon".
Yes we will, and it will solve some of the mystery behind walt and his abilities. The writers have been dropping us hints for a long time, theres just so much going on in the show that the most obvious things go overlooked by viewers.
When it aired, I thought it was her too
Same here, the short hair gave it away.
Five mins GUYS!!! GO WATCH!!!
Hmm didn't see that coming at all.
/sarcasm
Wow that was the dumbest death I have ever seen in Lost.
So pointless. WTF was the point of that?
Yankeeah
05-23-07, 10:01 PM
I said during the first season that some of these might be flash forwards.
I feel unsatisfied. 7 months for another episode? This is going to be rough.
OH.MY.GOD.
The flash forward was absolutely brilliant(saw it coming from a mile away but still). So my friend was right...they've now set up the show for the last few seasons. AMAZING.
Yankeeah
05-23-07, 10:03 PM
So is season 4 and 5 going to take place after they get rescued?
Luvtino
05-23-07, 10:04 PM
The flash forward was cool. Some get off the island and some don't.
The final Charlie scene was depressing as hell.
NYDCYankee
05-23-07, 10:05 PM
I said during the first season that some of these might be flash forwards.
I feel unsatisfied. 7 months for another episode? This is going to be rough.
Me too.
I thought we were gonna get a little more. Like specific answers as to where exactly they might be or something like that.
And Walt's appearance really didn't answer anything for me. Unless somehow he is Jacob.
So is season 4 and 5 going to take place after they get rescued?
Perhaps they don't get rescued yet? Because the people on the boat might be evil? And what about the rest of the others and walt and locke? Lots of stuff left on the island.
Yankeeah
05-23-07, 10:05 PM
The final Charlie scene was depressing as hell.
I thought it was nicely done. The grenade thing was kind of dumb, but they made me feel for a character I have never really liked.
NYDCYankee
05-23-07, 10:06 PM
I thought it was nicely done. The grenade thing was kind of dumb, but they made me feel for a character I have never really liked.
Charlie should have tried to swim out the window when the room filled up.
NYDCYankee
05-23-07, 10:06 PM
So is Penelope working with the Others?
Lots of stuff happened I need to process this.
Maybe he was just following what Desmond said? Only way everyone gets rescued is if he dies?
Yankeeah
05-23-07, 10:07 PM
Me too.
I thought we were gonna get a little more. Like specific answers as to where exactly they might be or something like that.
And Walt's appearance really didn't answer anything for me. Unless somehow he is Jacob.
Yeah the Walt thing was a tease. So did Locke imagine that, is he really there, will we ever see him again? He's only going to look older, I doubt they're going to be filming again until the fall/winter
Yankeeah
05-23-07, 10:07 PM
Charlie should have tried to swim out the window when the room filled up.
That did cross my mind, but he wouldn't have fit.
If Charlie tried saving himself then they don't get rescued. Remember when the girl landed on the island and in his flashes Desmond saw Penny? But since he saved Charlie-Penny wasn't there?
Luvtino
05-23-07, 10:10 PM
I thought it was nicely done. The grenade thing was kind of dumb, but they made me feel for a character I have never really liked.
It was very well done. It was so painful to watch. I was thinking of Claire, Aaron and Hurley the whole time as their hearts will all break. :(
I really hope from now on all we get are flash forwards.
Yankeeah
05-23-07, 10:13 PM
Maybe the island is the past and the present was the flash forward
Maybe the island is the past and the present was the flash forward
I guess that makes sense since they are sometime in December 2004 right now.
Ben was in the coffin? Or perhaps Sawyer?
Yankeeah
05-23-07, 10:18 PM
I guess that makes sense since they are sometime in December 2004 right now.
No I mean like beard Jack was the one that was looking back. Like how usually its the island person thinking of their past, this was beard Jack thinking about the past on the island.
Bern Baby Be
05-23-07, 10:19 PM
Maybe the island is the past and the present was the flash forward
I like that theory. I think we can just call the "flash forward" the present and the island scenes we saw tonight a flashback.
NYDCYankee
05-23-07, 10:20 PM
Ben was in the coffin? Or perhaps Sawyer?
I definitely think that was Locke. He literally has noone.
No I mean like beard Jack was the one that was looking back. Like how usually its the island person thinking of their past, this was beard Jack thinking about the past on the island.
Ah ok. Yeah I guess that's what it could become.
ballfour
05-23-07, 10:20 PM
Okay fellow Losties - my cable box apparently recycled on and off tonight. Would someone, using spoiler tags, mind giving me the lowdown on what I missed? Even if I get to see it later, I need to know what happened tonight!
I definitely think that was Locke. He literally has noone.
But don't you think at least some would go to pay their respects? I mean he is ultimately one of the good guys so don't you think Hurley or Clair would at least go pay a visit? And can anyone access any lost forums right now? All of em crashed. I wanna see a close up of what the news paper article said.
Okay fellow Losties - my cable box apparently recycled on and off tonight. Would someone, using spoiler tags, mind giving me the lowdown on what I missed? Even if I get to see it later, I need to know what happened tonight!
Toooo many things. Just go to bed now and when you wake up at 6am it'll be on abc.com :)
ballfour
05-23-07, 10:23 PM
Toooo many things. Just go to bed now and when you wake up at 6am it'll be on abc.com :)
Oooo...dont' do that to me! C'mon. Give me three highlights?:)
PinstripePride
05-23-07, 10:24 PM
My guess is Sawyer in the coffin.
And HOLY F*CKING SH!T. That episode BLEW my mind. Amazing.
Yankeeah
05-23-07, 10:25 PM
Whoever was int he coffin was someone that Jack loves enough to almost kill himself over.
Whoever was int he coffin was someone that Jack loves enough to almost kill himself over.
Has to be Ben then. He knew the way to the island.
Ok so if it's Ben then Jack trusts Ben as in the people coming from the boat are indeed evil.
NYDCYankee
05-23-07, 10:30 PM
The person in the coffin is neither friend nor family.
Ben and Locke are the best guesses. I would say at this point Sawyer is Jack's friend still.
And who does Kate have to get back too? Probably some sugar daddy.
And who does Kate have to get back too? Probably some sugar daddy.
Hurley. But seriously it's probably Sawyer. Also I think we haven't seen the end of Jack and Kate.
NYDCYankee
05-23-07, 10:35 PM
Are we 100% positive that brown haired chick is Sawyer's baby's momma. If that is the case, where is Sawyer's baby?
Are we 100% positive that brown haired chick is Sawyer's baby's momma. If that is the case, where is Sawyer's baby?
It looks like we were wrong about the chick in the looking glass being Sawyer's chick.
NYDCYankee
05-23-07, 10:37 PM
Hurley. But seriously it's probably Sawyer. Also I think we haven't seen the end of Jack and Kate.
She really had a nice car, Sawyer probably has some money stashed away.
I wonder since this was a flash forward if the future can be changed (ala the whole Desmond thing). Obviously there are 40 or more epi's left, so maybe since they don't leave the island right away, then maybe that terrible future for Jack can change if they get off the island a different way.
TheManKnownAsMecca
05-23-07, 10:38 PM
I said it was Ben for sure. As Sam mentioned, Ben is the only one who knows how to get back to the Island. It also explains why no one would show up. Also it would explain why Kate said she basically had no reason to pay her respects.
She really had a nice car, Sawyer probably has some money stashed away.
I wonder since this was a flash forward if the future can be changed (ala the whole Desmond thing). Obviously there are 40 or more epi's left, so maybe since they don't leave the island right away, then maybe that terrible future for Jack can change if they get off the island a different way.
I'm thinking they DON'T get off the island this way.
Anyone else yelled out loud when Sayid went Jack Bauer on that guy's neck?
PinstripePride
05-23-07, 10:39 PM
Yea, good call guys. You about have me convinced it's Ben.
PinstripePride
05-23-07, 10:40 PM
I'm thinking they DON'T get off the island this way.
Anyone else yelled out loud when Sayid went Jack Bauer on that guy's neck?
ME! I shouted and clapped.
I f*cking LOVE Sayid. He's my favorite by a lot.
NYDCYankee
05-23-07, 10:42 PM
Why would Ben ever leave the island though and die in LA.
That doesn't make sense to me.
Why would Ben ever leave the island though and die in LA.
That doesn't make sense to me.
Perhaps they forced him?
TheManKnownAsMecca
05-23-07, 10:49 PM
Why would Ben ever leave the island though and die in LA.
That doesn't make sense to me.
He is tied up. Ben doesn't exactly have a say in terms of staying or going.
Now why he was in Los Angeles is a good question, but that I do not know.
NYDCYankee
05-23-07, 10:49 PM
Perhaps they forced him?
But who has jurisdiction to make him leave, I would figure he would kill himself, or Jack would kill him before he left the island.
But who has jurisdiction to make him leave, I would figure he would kill himself, or Jack would kill him before he left the island.
Well the people on the boat aren't Penny's people so maybe Ben was right and earns Jack's trust?
Anyone else yelled out loud when Sayid went Jack Bauer on that guy's neck?Yes :).
And I never bought into the idea that it was the chick Sawyer scammed in the Looking Glass station. ;)
NYDCYankee
05-23-07, 10:55 PM
Ok. So can the future for Jack be changed?
TheManKnownAsMecca
05-23-07, 10:57 PM
Well the people on the boat aren't Penny's people so maybe Ben was right and earns Jack's trust?
I believe before he attempted to kill himself, Jack said "Forgive me." That also makes me believe the obituary was that of Ben. He realized Ben wasn't lying about the people or about not having anything to come home to.
Ok. So can the future for Jack be changed?
I hope not. I hope it's more like the soap opera part of the show shifts from the island to the present. Like I said, we haven't seen the last of Jack and Kate.
Sooooo what happens to Juliet? Dead? Or does she leave Jack?
I'm thinking they DON'T get off the island this way.You're right. I think the struggle w/ the people on the boat will be next season's plot. Afterall, most of the Others are gone (Hurley, ftw), so there's really nobody left to 'fight' except for Locke. The fact that Naomi said that they found the 815 wreckage is a significant piece of information, and I think it will end up being important to that plotline.
I think that Charlie's conversation w/ Penny will ultimately lead to them being rescued, as long as she remembers what Charlie told her about being on flight 815 in light of hearing that Desmond was there. Charlie really will end up being the hero.
As for the whole future/past flashback thing - I'm just confused :). But what the producers have said regarding the space/time continuum makes sense if that's the case.
BTW, my theory is that Jacob manifests himself as Walt.
-jim
Wait... why would Jack tell the Chief of Surgery to go talk to his father, afterall, his father was dead at that point and Jack knew it - unless he was so messed up that he didn't remember, which would explain "the look" that the dude gave him. Or maybe he's just trying to block it out? The pharmacist wanted to call his office, but Jack said he was out of town. This is making my head hurt :).
I fully agree with Jim. As for the flash forwards...I just recently saw Inside Man so that's why I saw it coming from a mile away on Lost tonight...think of it as those interviews with the hostages in Inside Man.
Wait... why would Jack tell the Chief of Surgery to go talk to his father, afterall, his father was dead at that point and Jack knew it - unless he was so messed up that he didn't remember, which would explain "the look" that the dude gave him. Or maybe he's just trying to block it out? The pharmacist wanted to call his office, but Jack said he was out of town. This is making my head hurt :).
That was the writers preventing us from guessing that it was a flash forward. Jack was messed up and he obviously faked a prescription with his dad's name.
NYDCYankee
05-23-07, 11:10 PM
Wait... why would Jack tell the Chief of Surgery to go talk to his father, afterall, his father was dead at that point and Jack knew it - unless he was so messed up that he didn't remember, which would explain "the look" that the dude gave him. Or maybe he's just trying to block it out? The pharmacist wanted to call his office, but Jack said he was out of town. This is making my head hurt :).
Maybe Christian is Kate's sugar daddy.
NYDCYankee
05-23-07, 11:11 PM
You're right. I think the struggle w/ the people on the boat will be next season's plot. Afterall, most of the Others are gone (Hurley, ftw), so there's really nobody left to 'fight' except for Locke. The fact that Naomi said that they found the 815 wreckage is a significant piece of information, and I think it will end up being important to that plotline.
I think that Charlie's conversation w/ Penny will ultimately lead to them being rescued, as long as she remembers what Charlie told her about being on flight 815 in light of hearing that Desmond was there. Charlie really will end up being the hero.
As for the whole future/past flashback thing - I'm just confused :). But what the producers have said regarding the space/time continuum makes sense if that's the case.
BTW, my theory is that Jacob manifests himself as Walt.
-jim
I am not so sure they are done with the Others. Richard for example I think is very important.
Plus they are breaking out a new "temple" or "ruins" set next year.
And the runway. The damn runway.
TheManKnownAsMecca
05-23-07, 11:16 PM
On a sidenote, I went to a get together with co-workers for tonight's episode and Jack's mustache looked ridiculous in HD.
Soriambi
05-23-07, 11:22 PM
I'm going to go to bed and hope that I've digested all of that somewhat by tomorrow, though I doubt it. :lol:
Wait... why would Jack tell the Chief of Surgery to go talk to his father, afterall, his father was dead at that point and Jack knew it - unless he was so messed up that he didn't remember, which would explain "the look" that the dude gave him. Or maybe he's just trying to block it out? The pharmacist wanted to call his office, but Jack said he was out of town. This is making my head hurt :).
It's obvious. The pharmacist is the key to the whole show: the hero, the sex symbol, the brilliant, intuitive key to the entire show. Makes perfect sense to me. :)
Boy did the purgatory theory take a huge hit tonight.
CanoForPresident
05-23-07, 11:27 PM
The next 3 seasons are gonna be insane. If anyone ever questions if the writers know what they're doing, I'm going to kick them in the face.
Boy did the purgatory theory take a huge hit tonight.
I'll take your word for it. PM me who won Idol (and don't f with me, or I'll ban your sorry *** from GT's forverer:D )
The next 3 seasons are gonna be insane. If anyone ever questions if the writers know what they're doing, I'm going to kick them in the face.
I wonder some times if the writers even know what they're doing.
Just sayin..
CanoForPresident
05-23-07, 11:29 PM
Boy did the purgatory theory take a huge hit tonight.
:lol:
Aside from the theory that the whole thing was Hurley's hallucination, by far the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
:lol:
Aside from the theory that the whole thing was Hurley's hallucination, by far the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
Haha. I don't wanna wait till January. :(
:lol:
Aside from the theory that the whole thing was Hurley's hallucination, by far the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
:( :( :(
*erases CFP from Favorite Person thread List* :(
Yankeeah
05-24-07, 12:23 AM
Perhaps what we just saw will be the series last scene. The rest of the show will be filling in the gaps.
Perhaps what we just saw will be the series last scene. The rest of the show will be filling in the gaps.
Noooooooooooo!! That'd be a very unhappy ending.
savafan
05-24-07, 02:05 AM
Wait... why would Jack tell the Chief of Surgery to go talk to his father, afterall, his father was dead at that point and Jack knew it - unless he was so messed up that he didn't remember, which would explain "the look" that the dude gave him. Or maybe he's just trying to block it out? The pharmacist wanted to call his office, but Jack said he was out of town. This is making my head hurt :).
Is his father dead? He's been seen on the island. Perhaps this is all an alternate reality in a parallel time/space continuum.
NYDCYankee
05-24-07, 02:24 AM
Is his father dead? He's been seen on the island. Perhaps this is all an alternate reality in a parallel time/space continuum.
Could be why Jack is going off the edge. Maybe he didn't go back to his orignial reality.
Isn't Christian supposed to be like Eko's brother and Ben's mother? I'm pretty sure it's the monster.
NYDCYankee
05-24-07, 02:58 AM
http://bp0.blogger.com/_RrObyQ3XzcY/RlUe-1YihSI/AAAAAAAAFkw/ucINFuG1jfo/s1600-h/newspaperclipping2.jpg
Enhanced version of the newspaper clipping.
The name in the story is not anyone we know yet.
Also the coffin is small. It looks like a childs coffin.
NYDCYankee
05-24-07, 03:10 AM
Anagram of the funeral parlor Hoffs Drawlar
Flash Forward. :)
CanoForPresident
05-24-07, 06:07 AM
http://bp0.blogger.com/_RrObyQ3XzcY/RlUe-1YihSI/AAAAAAAAFkw/ucINFuG1jfo/s1600-h/newspaperclipping2.jpg
Enhanced version of the newspaper clipping.
The name in the story is not anyone we know yet.
Also the coffin is small. It looks like a childs coffin.
Awesome find bro.
NYDCYankee
05-24-07, 06:24 AM
I think maybe the body in the coffin is Jacob.
NYDCYankee
05-24-07, 06:59 AM
Why was Jack looking at maps of Great Britain.
http://bp3.blogger.com/_RrObyQ3XzcY/RlUp-lYihUI/AAAAAAAAFlA/LPxuDTuwxTE/s1600-h/maps2.jpg
If this is supposed to be "the present", I'm confused - a while ago there was an Oceanic web site that was published by ABC that said Oceanic went out of business after the crash of 815. I guess it's never been said on the show so it doesn't really count, but I guess it takes any legitimacy away from those "Lost Experience" web sites that were popping up.
RhodyYanksFan
05-24-07, 08:12 AM
Wow...just wow.
I don't know what to say. I thought it was a flash-forward when I noticed Jack's thin cell phone. Those weren't around in 2003. Then the look that the chief doc gave him and how he totally avoided having the pharmacist call his dad cemented it for me. That leaves me to believe that Ben is in the coffin. If we've learned one thing this season it's that Ben isn't a liar. He fibs sometimes, but he doesn't lie. Remember how he promised Juliet her sister would be ok, 3 years after she got the cancer back?
As soon as he told Jack to not trust Naomi I believed him. Whoever comes off that boat is going to be trouble.
I think the series will end with our Losties living happily on the island and another plane crashing. Jack will tell Sawyer to go and blend in...just like Ben did with Ethan.
The Others aren't the bad guys.
RIP Charlie. It was sad to see you go, but I'm glad that plotline is over.
The only thing that bugs me is Locke. Getting shot in the stomach is supposedly one of the worst, most painful and drawn out deaths. Nevermind that he's lying an a pit of rotted corpses. He'd lose so much blood and be so infected, no way he'd get out of there. Unless Walt = Jacob.
BTW, my favorite exchange of the show:
Ben: "Alex, this is your mother"
Rosseau: *caresses Alex*
Alex: *looks confused*
Rosseau: "Come, help me tie him up"
:lol:
Casey at the Bat
05-24-07, 08:25 AM
I can't believe I have to wait until January to find out what happens next. Typical of Lost, we are left with more questions than answers.
1. Who is in the coffin?
2. How did Jack and Kate get off the island? Are they the only ones? What happened between them that Kate doesn't really want anything to do with him anymore? Why does Jack want to go back?
3. Who was on the boat? Are they friendly or not? If they are not, how did Jack get off the island?
4. Why do we keep seeing Walt in these scenes? Is he really there, or is it Jacob looking like walt?
5. Is Jack's father still dead or not?
6. Why do I keep watching this show, knowing in the end it is going to leave me feeling unsatisfied.... yet unable to wait for the next episode?
Oh another thing, from the exchange between Jack and Kate anyone else get the feeling that the world doesn't know about them being on an island? Oceanic made em keep it a secret?
yanksphan
05-24-07, 09:29 AM
Oh another thing, from the exchange between Jack and Kate anyone else get the feeling that the world doesn't know about them being on an island? Oceanic made em keep it a secret?
He said he's 'tired of lying' - so yes, seems something isn't being talked about.
RhodyYanksFan
05-24-07, 09:36 AM
Oh another thing, from the exchange between Jack and Kate anyone else get the feeling that the world doesn't know about them being on an island? Oceanic made em keep it a secret?
But the guy in the pharmacy said he's a hero twice over.
Yankeeah
05-24-07, 09:45 AM
Thats a good thought about Michael.
Some stuff from an interview with Damon Lindelof
- The Lost bosses enter what they're calling "complete and utter radio silence"...
- Lost returns in February, not positive if it stays on Wednesday
- They have been planning the flash-forward since the beginning
- The role of Jacob has not been cast
- The islands mysteries can't be strictly explained by science, and the others are in danger of extinction
- Ben is not Alex's father
Yankeeah
05-24-07, 09:46 AM
But the guy in the pharmacy said he's a hero twice over.
I took that as once saving the woman, once saving the boy
Casey at the Bat
05-24-07, 10:41 AM
He said he's 'tired of lying' - so yes, seems something isn't being talked about.
Oceanic reported that the remains of flight 815 were found, and there were no survivors (perhaps to save face). Now that the plane and survivors were found, Oceanic has paid them to keep quiet.
or... it could be something else.
Bern Baby Be
05-24-07, 11:11 AM
I think the fact that Jack was going to jump off the bridge is pretty much proof that it was Ben in the coffin. Jack told Kate he was trying to get back to the island, that it was a mistake to leave. Ben passes himself off as being one with the island. With his death (if, in fact it is), all hope of getting back to the island is lost.
Mezmerize
05-24-07, 11:17 AM
I think the fact that Jack was going to jump off the bridge is pretty much proof that it was Ben in the coffin. Jack told Kate he was trying to get back to the island, that it was a mistake to leave. Ben passes himself off as being one with the island. With his death (if, in fact it is), all hope of getting back to the island is lost.
Bingo, I concur.
Although the close-up of the article doesn't fit with this explanation, I think we were not meant to see the article that close. At first I thought I missed something at the beginning, but as the episode drew out, it became more and more clear that Ben was in fact 'the late'. It makes sense with the exchange between Kate and Jack at the end. Kate couldn't have cared less and was confused as to why Jack cared so much. If Jack realized that he was wrong about leaving the island and that Locke was right, which is the fundamental disagreement Locke and Jack have had since the inception of Lost, the death of Ben would mean Jack will never get the answers he wants about the island and why his life is in shambles in 'the present'. Ben is the only person that could lead him back to the island (perhaps Richard, but that makes no sense to me at all).
How can anyone not feel satisfied with that ending? That was absolutely fantastic.
Yankeeah
05-24-07, 12:03 PM
the death of Ben would mean Jack will never get the answers he wants about the island and why his life is in shambles in 'the present'. Ben is the only person that could lead him back to the island (perhaps Richard, but that makes no sense to me at all).
How can anyone not feel satisfied with that ending? That was absolutely fantastic.
Great, if Jack doesn't get answers, that means we don't either. We're screwed!
I feel unsatisfied because I was hoping for more answers, but the main reason is the next time we will see a new Lost, the 2008 Yankees will be reporting to Spring Training. In my book, that's way too long to wait.
I know people are throwing their suggestions out there for how they should do the show, btu how about this.
Start 16 episodes on September 5th and have the 16th one air December 19th. That way, you don't have to worry about the holiday sand keep the show in peoples minds.
Then, re-start the show in say April and have it run through the summer. Obviously they won't do that because it's a big show and putting on during the summer could hurt the ratings and they probably want to stretch it out, but I just think this idea is going to lose a lot of viewers, a lot.
CanoForPresident
05-24-07, 12:10 PM
Bingo, I concur.
Although the close-up of the article doesn't fit with this explanation, I think we were not meant to see the article that close. At first I thought I missed something at the beginning, but as the episode drew out, it became more and more clear that Ben was in fact 'the late'. It makes sense with the exchange between Kate and Jack at the end. Kate couldn't have cared less and was confused as to why Jack cared so much. If Jack realized that he was wrong about leaving the island and that Locke was right, which is the fundamental disagreement Locke and Jack have had since the inception of Lost, the death of Ben would mean Jack will never get the answers he wants about the island and why his life is in shambles in 'the present'. Ben is the only person that could lead him back to the island (perhaps Richard, but that makes no sense to me at all).
How can anyone not feel satisfied with that ending? That was absolutely fantastic.
I believe this is where Walt will come into play. He has a connection to Locke who is most likely still on the island as the new leader of the others.
Does any one remember what color chips Locke used when he played backgammon against Walt? If he was black, then that might answer a bunch of questions.
CanoForPresident
05-24-07, 12:14 PM
re-start the show in say April and have it run through the summer. Obviously they won't do that because it's a big show and putting on during the summer could hurt the ratings and they probably want to stretch it out, but I just think this idea is going to lose a lot of viewers, a lot.
People watch less TV in the summer. The build up and promition that ABC will do for Lost before it comes back on air will be more than enough to entice old, and maybe possilby new viewers (even though they'll be even more confused than us.)
You can't tell me that an extra long wait will make lost fans turn away from the show, not after the ending we just got.
goin for 27
05-24-07, 12:15 PM
I think the fact that Jack was going to jump off the bridge is pretty much proof that it was Ben in the coffin. Jack told Kate he was trying to get back to the island, that it was a mistake to leave. Ben passes himself off as being one with the island. With his death (if, in fact it is), all hope of getting back to the island is lost.
Great call.
Also, when asked by the Undertaker - "Friend or Family"?
He said "Neither". That would make sense as well...
Yankeeah
05-24-07, 12:21 PM
People watch less TV in the summer. The build up and promition that ABC will do for Lost before it comes back on air will be more than enough to entice old, and maybe possilby new viewers (even though they'll be even more confused than us.)
You can't tell me that an extra long wait will make lost fans turn away from the show, not after the ending we just got.
I agree about the summer thing, but you can't say that this break will be good for the show either.
Yankeeah
05-24-07, 12:22 PM
Great call.
Also, when asked by the Undertaker - "Friend or Family"?
He said "Neither". That would make sense as well...
I think Ben is too obvious of a choice. I think it's going to be someone on the boat. Ben though, is the leading choice.
YankeePride1967
05-24-07, 12:27 PM
I agree about the summer thing, but you can't say that this break will be good for the show either.
With the realization that there are three 16 episode seasons left, I'd rather have them in the spring and nonstop rather then spread them out a traditional Sept./Oct. to May season. Shows like Lost and 24 really are made to be aired non-stop. And also the fact that there are only 16 rules out more frequent airings of the show.
Yankeeah
05-24-07, 12:30 PM
With the realization that there are three 16 episode seasons left, I'd rather have them in the spring and nonstop rather then spread them out a traditional Sept./Oct. to May season. Shows like Lost and 24 really are made to be aired non-stop. And also the fact that there are only 16 rules out more frequent airings of the show.
I thought it was two 16 episode seasons? But I'm all for non-stop. Non stop from Sept-Dece, then again from April to whenever.
YankeePride1967
05-24-07, 12:31 PM
I thought it was two 16 episode seasons? But I'm all for non-stop. Non stop from Sept-Dece, then again from April to whenever.
It's three seasons. As said above, they would never start it in April, they would lose way too much money on it.
Yankeeah
05-24-07, 12:34 PM
It's three seasons. As said above, they would never start it in April, they would lose way too much money on it.
Oh, I thought it was two. I understand the not doing it in April. but I think they're going to lose money waiting so long.
YankeePride1967
05-24-07, 12:36 PM
Oh, I thought it was two. I understand the not doing it in April. but I think they're going to lose money waiting so long.
It's hard enough spreading 22-24 episodes over Sept/Oct. to May, doing it with 16 would be horrible. They would air an episode then a few weeks off, another episode, another few weeks off. There is also a limit to the amount of episodes that they can produce in a certain time so in the 07-08 year there will only be 16 episodes. Then in the 08-09 there will only be 16. They aren't going to start doing a 32 episode season which would be the result of doing 16 in the fall and 16 in the spring.
Yankeeah
05-24-07, 12:40 PM
It's hard enough spreading 22-24 episodes over Sept/Oct. to May, doing it with 16 would be horrible. They would air an episode then a few weeks off, another episode, another few weeks off. There is also a limit to the amount of episodes that they can produce in a certain time so in the 07-08 year there will only be 16 episodes. Then in the 08-09 there will only be 16. They aren't going to start doing a 32 episode season which would be the result of doing 16 in the fall and 16 in the spring.
No I'm sayng have season 4 from Sep-Dec and 5 from April to whenever. Both seasons running straight. I don't think it would work/ABC would ever do it, but I just don't like this idea.
YankeePride1967
05-24-07, 12:50 PM
No I'm sayng have season 4 from Sep-Dec and 5 from April to whenever. Both seasons running straight. I don't think it would work/ABC would ever do it, but I just don't like this idea.
That would not be that different from a traditional season of Sept./Oct. to May, just push it back a few months when people are at the beach and not watching TV. There is no way they could write/tape/edit and produce 32 episodes in that short of a period of time. Also, no big program would end past May. Networks base their advertizing rates based on "sweep" months that occur in February, May and November. Which is why in December, March and then June-early September you don't get new episodes. But even if they did want to, they wouldn't be able to start airing episodes before January of 08 even if they wanted to.
Realizing the reality of it, that in the 07-08 season there will only be 16 episodes. I'd rather they just wait until February and run the 16 episodes without interrruption than start in the fall and have a new show here and then weeks of repeats. This isn't a traditional series in the sense they can tape it in a short period of time.
For the record, I would love your way as well, but it won't happen sadly.
Yankeeah
05-24-07, 01:03 PM
For the record, I would love your way as well, but it won't happen sadly.
Yeah while conceiving it I knew there was no chance of it happening. I'm just not looking forward to this wait.
yanksphan
05-24-07, 01:05 PM
Something to chew on: Alternate time line theory, where they've been able to jump from one timeline back to another.
Ben warned Jack that he would be repeating history by going through with the call to the boat.
So he does it anyway, and the losties are "rescued" - only to find out they are reliving life from the moment before their "mistake".
Maybe it's Michael in that coffin. The camera shot seemed to really emphasize the funeral parlor was in an urban part of town, presumably a heavily African American populated neighborhood. So back to the coffin - Michael abandoned the losties, goes back home and can't live with the guilt, or the idea of having to do it (the crash/island) all over again ("history repeats itself") - so he offs himself. Kate wanted no part of the funeral - perhaps she's pissed about being abandoned by him...
Kate looked a LOT younger in the flash forward as well. She reminded me of before she knocked her step-father off. She also made a comment to Jack "He's going to wonder where I'm at" (paraphrasing) - would that be her step-father?
Finally - Jack in the hospital, when he freaked out on the new doctor, mentioned bringing his Dad down to see who's drunker. We all know his Dad to be dead, but now perhaps not?
What I'm getting at is Desmond turning that key did something, and sent the losties back to a point in time where maybe they can correct their wrongs. Some are up for it (Kate?) some can't handle it (Michael? Jack?).
A tropical Groundhog Day if you will - would make sense with Desmond's visions - perhaps they are actually memories.
CanoForPresident
05-24-07, 01:09 PM
Something to chew on: Alternate time line theory, where they've been able to jump from one timeline back to another.
Ben warned Jack that he would be repeating history by going through with the call to the boat.
So he does it anyway, and the losties are "rescued" - only to find out they are reliving life from the moment before their "mistake".
Maybe it's Michael in that coffin. The camera shot seemed to really emphasize the funeral parlor was in an urban part of town, presumably a heavily African American populated neighborhood. So back to the coffin - Michael abandoned the losties, goes back home and can't live with the guilt, or the idea of having to do it (the crash/island) all over again ("history repeats itself") - so he offs himself. Kate wanted no part of the funeral - perhaps she's pissed about being abandoned by him...
Kate looked a LOT younger in the flash forward as well. She reminded me of before she knocked her step-father off. She also made a comment to Jack "He's going to wonder where I'm at" (paraphrasing) - would that be her step-father?
Finally - Jack in the hospital, when he freaked out on the new doctor, mentioned bringing his Dad down to see who's drunker. We all know his Dad to be dead, but now perhaps not?
What I'm getting at is Desmond turning that key did something, and sent the losties back to a point in time where maybe they can correct their wrongs. Some are up for it (Kate?) some can't handle it (Michael? Jack?).
A tropical Groundhog Day if you will - would make sense with Desmond's visions - perhaps they are actually memories.
Thank you for making my brain explode..
Something to chew on: Alternate time line theory, where they've been able to jump from one timeline back to another.
Ben warned Jack that he would be repeating history by going through with the call to the boat.
So he does it anyway, and the losties are "rescued" - only to find out they are reliving life from the moment before their "mistake".
Maybe it's Michael in that coffin. The camera shot seemed to really emphasize the funeral parlor was in an urban part of town, presumably a heavily African American populated neighborhood. So back to the coffin - Michael abandoned the losties, goes back home and can't live with the guilt, or the idea of having to do it (the crash/island) all over again ("history repeats itself") - so he offs himself. Kate wanted no part of the funeral - perhaps she's pissed about being abandoned by him...
Kate looked a LOT younger in the flash forward as well. She reminded me of before she knocked her step-father off. She also made a comment to Jack "He's going to wonder where I'm at" (paraphrasing) - would that be her step-father?
Finally - Jack in the hospital, when he freaked out on the new doctor, mentioned bringing his Dad down to see who's drunker. We all know his Dad to be dead, but now perhaps not?
What I'm getting at is Desmond turning that key did something, and sent the losties back to a point in time where maybe they can correct their wrongs. Some are up for it (Kate?) some can't handle it (Michael? Jack?).
A tropical Groundhog Day if you will - would make sense with Desmond's visions - perhaps they are actually memories.
Okay, let me see if I can recap this...
At some point in the past, Desmond did something that sent everyone to the future, where they then go farther back into the past - not as themselves, but as themselves as they were at that time (as far as age). Then they get to try and undo all the things they did, even though they didn't do them yet, and Jack and Kate know each other because they knew each other in the previous past before they went to the future. Some are able to undo what they did (but didn't do), and some others aren't, so they off themselves. While others retain their youthful looks from the past past in the most recent future. And they drive Volvos.
Got it :).
YankeePride1967
05-24-07, 01:27 PM
Okay, I'm exhausted after all that. Or am I? Did I just wake up? Or is it time for bed? Hmm.
yanksphan
05-24-07, 01:28 PM
Okay, let me see if I can recap this...
At some point in the past, Desmond did something that sent everyone to the future, where they then go farther back into the past - not as themselves, but as themselves as they were at that time (as far as age). Then they get to try and undo all the things they did, even though they didn't do them yet, and Jack and Kate know each other because they knew each other in the previous past before they went to the future. Some are able to undo what they did (but didn't do), and some others aren't, so they off themselves. While others retain their youthful looks from the past past in the most recent future. And they drive Volvos.
Got it :).
Whew. I thought maybe it was too abstract. :D
b-ball-lunachick
05-24-07, 01:44 PM
wow - there's a lot i'm still thinking about from that last episode..and Jim's recap has me LOST so I'm going to have to read back through this thread. :D
Question - I saw some posts about a huge break before the next season starts- when is it on again?
I really hope they go to a different night from American Idol and go back to 9pm -- you need your brain to be sharp during that show and it should be on earlier. :)
CanoForPresident
05-24-07, 01:50 PM
wow - there's a lot i'm still thinking about from that last episode..and Jim's recap has me LOST so I'm going to have to read back through this thread. :D
Question - I saw some posts about a huge break before the next season starts- when is it on again?
I really hope they go to a different night from American Idol and go back to 9pm -- you need your brain to be sharp during that show and it should be on earlier. :)
Lost will be back in February 2008, long wait I know.
I wouldn't worry about it falling ont he same night as American Idol. From everything I've heard, the show is done. I dont watch it basically because I hate reality tv but Ive heard that Simon Cowell (sp?) is leaving the show and with out him, there is no idol. A show about an american dude who goes to Oxford in the fall and live with Jude Law in a show titled "Jude Law and a Semester Abroad" would get higher rating.
Big ups to anyone who gets the reference.
CanoForPresident
05-24-07, 01:53 PM
http://bp0.blogger.com/_RrObyQ3XzcY/RlUe-1YihSI/AAAAAAAAFkw/ucINFuG1jfo/s1600-h/newspaperclipping2.jpg
Enhanced version of the newspaper clipping.
The name in the story is not anyone we know yet.
Also the coffin is small. It looks like a childs coffin.
After taking a closer look at this, the person who dies name starts with a J and their last name ends with ntham.
Could this be Jacob?
xenochimera
05-24-07, 02:25 PM
its jason stratham.
dirtdogman5
05-24-07, 02:33 PM
A show about an american dude who goes to Oxford in the fall and live with Jude Law in a show titled "Jude Law and a Semester Abroad" would get higher rating.
Big ups to anyone who gets the reference.
Brand New. Your Favorite Weapon. :)
CanoForPresident
05-24-07, 02:34 PM
its jason stratham.
I always had a feeling Turkish would make his way on the island.
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