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Kluivert4Ever
07-26-06, 09:55 PM
If Beam was your only alternative you stay with Villone.
Dr. Gonzo
07-26-06, 09:55 PM
get proctor out of there he has nothing at all, what the hell are you thinking joe, gives the bats a damn chance
i think the fans should be able to dfa joe for his stupid moves
knickfan23
07-26-06, 09:55 PM
If Farns was unavailable I would not have moaned if he went to Proctor because there are no other alternatives in this situation.
But Farnsworth warmed up in the 7th, but something happened between warming up in the 7th and the start of the 8th that suddenly made him unavailable to pitch tonight.
Now Joe has a choice.
He can try to use Villone for a 3rd inning. Use Mike Myers against a switch hitter in Matthews and roll the dice. Or, bring in Beam because he has no one left in the pen unless you want to see Shawn Chacon or Kris Wilson (have they been DFA'ed yet?). And Mo has pitched two days in a row.
There are no options.
yankees27
07-26-06, 09:56 PM
This may not be the best time... but the yankees acquired Jose Lima and assigned him to Triple A...Did anyone else know about this...
Heck know.
nyctalopia
07-26-06, 09:56 PM
Rangers 7, Joe Torre 6.
actually its:
Joe Torre 7, Yankees 6.
EdRuane
07-26-06, 09:56 PM
http://www.nomaas.org/images/torreloss3.jpg
Yankees8185
07-26-06, 09:56 PM
DP please.
The series is won. Throw away game for Joe Torre.
allstarcano22
07-26-06, 09:56 PM
were going to lose and arod will make the final out and then no one wil lremember his clutch homer
Kluivert4Ever
07-26-06, 09:56 PM
But Farnsworth warmed up in the 7th, but something happened between warming up in the 7th and the start of the 8th that suddenly made him unavailable to pitch tonight.
Now Joe has a choice.
He can try to use Villone for a 3rd inning. Use Mike Myers against a switch hitter in Matthews and roll the dice. Or, bring in Beam because he has no one left in the pen unless you want to see Shawn Chacon or Kris Wilson (have they been DFA'ed yet?). And Mo has pitched two days in a row.
There are no options.
Villone for a third inning was a much much better choice.
WebsterMulligan
07-26-06, 09:56 PM
God....right now I can't contain my anger. Just livid. Proctor is on fumes- this will cause him to be ineffective for a few weeks.
So...Torre will lose tonight, then proceed to kill his pen with a cooked reliever, a possible injury to Farnsworth, etc....
So happy.
Blame Wright. He could'nt even go six innings.
DaYanks24
07-26-06, 09:56 PM
Wonderful job done by Cashman assembling a bullpen
Tell Farnsworth to storm out of the bullpen and pitch
I don't care what caveman joe thinks
jughead
07-26-06, 09:57 PM
I hate Torre with a passion right now
Hahhahahaha they can't even get a single out. Brutal.
dabomb2045
07-26-06, 09:57 PM
Villone should have stayed in. You HAVE to win this game....putting Beam in was like handing the game over to Texas.
montyque
07-26-06, 09:57 PM
The wheels have fallen off.
jimmykey2
07-26-06, 09:57 PM
Proctor getting creamed. Torre is just trying to lose this game. Why didn't mo come in?
Mo has pitched 3 of the past 4 days.
He WASN'T pitching tonight.
YankeeinCT
07-26-06, 09:57 PM
Why is Proctor still in there?
RhodeyYankee2638
07-26-06, 09:57 PM
Torre has made some dumb moves this season but this TJ Beam has to be the worse.
Oh and like i said.... GAME OVER. Someone needs to start slippin Joe a bigger dose of Ambien before the game starts.
Dude, he's only given up 1 BB in 8 innings
true, he's also given up 16 hits, but hey, it happens
Maynerd
07-26-06, 09:57 PM
Aaaargh!
Bases loaded 0 outs........Can it get any worse?
CanoForPresident
07-26-06, 09:57 PM
now the rangers are getting every break possible..
CptCrunch
07-26-06, 09:57 PM
Apparently, we're not going to get an out this inning.
brosiusbuddy
07-26-06, 09:57 PM
the second effing bloop of the inning
FormerlyKnownAsMHHL
07-26-06, 09:57 PM
Yet proctor is in the game now.
If he's an option, you bring him in ASAP, not after beam puts the first 2 men in scoring position..
another lucky hit..
7-6 rangers
Are you watching Proctor pitch? Case closed. He shouldn't have pitched today. Not Torre's fault the bullpen is a disaster.
jlw1980
07-26-06, 09:57 PM
Unreal. This blows.
EdRuane
07-26-06, 09:57 PM
http://live.cgcu.net/news/images/newspic863.jpg
TheMelkMan
07-26-06, 09:57 PM
:barf: :(
Absolutely terrible. I don't like to knock torre, but I could've outmanaged him today. Pitching change, too little too late.
allstarcano22
07-26-06, 09:57 PM
Chacon!!> Noooooo
Dr. Gonzo
07-26-06, 09:57 PM
proctor can't throw, get him out,
thanks joe for putting the game out of reach, goodnite all, I am done with this
Yankees8185
07-26-06, 09:57 PM
Great bullpen management by future Hall of Famer Joe Torre.
b_joseph
07-26-06, 09:57 PM
So basically u are saying there was no way we'd win this game?
Well I was hoping for a tie game as soon as I saw Beam.
Torre didnt have any cards remaining. If he brought in Scottie, well, you are seeing what would have happened now.
Jaret hurt us by not going deep because it used up Villone too early.
ICEBERG18
07-26-06, 09:57 PM
It will be interesting to see who the media blames this on if we lose.
TJ Beam or Proctor?
here he comes
this game is a laugher
what a horrendous job of managing
not only does he blow the game but now we can't even trade Proctor for something good
sweet_lou_14
07-26-06, 09:58 PM
Even starting the 8th with Chacon would have been acceptable.
Torre blew this game.
Jetfanmack
07-26-06, 09:58 PM
Here comes Chacon. Or as Kay would say, Mariano.
Panamaniac42
07-26-06, 09:58 PM
I'm starting to think people in the Suggestion forum were onto something with "Premium" Game Threads.
Kluivert4Ever
07-26-06, 09:58 PM
Villone should have stayed in. You HAVE to win this game....putting Beam in was like handing the game over to Texas.
Exactly, every option possible would have been better than Beam.
I would rather roll the dice with Myers against righties than use Beam in this spot.
Maynerd
07-26-06, 09:58 PM
Bases loaded 0 outs........Can it get any worse?
Unfortunately, it can get MUCH worse, and I fear it's about to.
Prediction: 22-6 Rangers
Anyone else?
dabomb2045
07-26-06, 09:58 PM
Well I was hoping for a tie game as soon as I saw Beam.
Torre didnt have any cards remaining. If he brought in Scottie, well, you are seeing what would have happened now.
Jaret hurt us by not going deep because it used up Villone too early.
Villone for a 3rd inning. We have the day off tommorrow. We just totally gave away a game.
jlw1980
07-26-06, 09:58 PM
Are you watching Proctor pitch? Case closed. He shouldn't have pitched today. Not Torre's fault the bullpen is a disaster.
Correct.
Bases loaded, no outs...started inning up two, now down one...f'ing lovely... :mad:
brosiusbuddy
07-26-06, 09:58 PM
pop up, dp, jeter single, giambi walk, arod blast, mo save
Great bullpen management by future Hall of Famer Joe Torre.
It's bad enough Kirby Puckett is in the Hall of Fame.
Hopefully Joe will not be there as well.
Ghost of Thurman
07-26-06, 09:59 PM
Mo has pitched 3 of the past 4 days.
He WASN'T pitching tonight.
Mo's pitched 3 out of the last 4 days because Torre used him on Monday with a 4 run lead. If he doesn't do that, then he could have pitched today, and then Farnsworth could have pitched the 8th. Torre blew this situation 2 days ago.
Given the circumstances, I'm fine with using Beam in this situation. Gotta find out what you've got sometime.
EdRuane
07-26-06, 09:59 PM
It will be interesting to see who the media blames this on if we lose.
TJ Beam or Proctor?
A-Rod.
YankeeinCT
07-26-06, 09:59 PM
here he comes
this game is a laugher
what a horrendous job of managing
not only does he blow the game but now we can't even trade Proctor for something good
It isn't Proctor's fault. He shouldn't have been used tonight.
nyctalopia
07-26-06, 09:59 PM
Prediction: 22-6 Rangers
Anyone else?
Prediction: ESPN blames this on ARod.
Derek Jeter needs to call a team meeting, and call out "Mr. Torre."
b_joseph
07-26-06, 09:59 PM
Villone should have stayed in. You HAVE to win this game....putting Beam in was like handing the game over to Texas.
Ron starts to give up runs, when he go's more than 2 ip.
yankee48104
07-26-06, 09:59 PM
Torre said he wasn't going to go to Proctor tonight. Guess I see why.:eek: :mad:
ZYanksRule
07-26-06, 09:59 PM
But Farnsworth warmed up in the 7th, but something happened between warming up in the 7th and the start of the 8th that suddenly made him unavailable to pitch tonight.
Now Joe has a choice.
He can try to use Villone for a 3rd inning. Use Mike Myers against a switch hitter in Matthews and roll the dice. Or, bring in Beam because he has no one left in the pen unless you want to see Shawn Chacon or Kris Wilson (have they been DFA'ed yet?). And Mo has pitched two days in a row.
There are no options.
Exactly right.
You can't use Mo either for 2 innings tonight, because he's pitched 2 straight days.
jimmykey2
07-26-06, 09:59 PM
Exactly, every option possible would have been better than Beam.
I would rather roll the dice with Myers against righties than use Beam in this spot.
Please be serious.
100% correct.
I'm not a Joe defender either... remember I almost lost my mind when he brought in Kris Wilson on Sunday. Proctor can't get anyone out. Farnsworth is either hurt or was going to be the closer.
But Torre always gets caught in between. Either you will use a guy or you won't. He now has not only made the wrong decision, but he's made it twice. He's cost this game, and possibly many more by blowing through a reliever who is shot.
He's a terrible pen manager, because of his mistrust and indecision.
TJ Beam isn't a major league reliever right now. If Farnsworth is hurt, you can choose to pitch Villone another inning. Either Proctor is available or he isn't- and if he isn't (as should be the case) keep him on the friggin' bench.
He did the same thing in the '04 Sox series with Rivera. He tries to skate with something, then panics and goes to the guy he didn't want to go to. He screws up twice.
100% correct.
I'm not a Joe defender either... remember I almost lost my mind when he brought in Kris Wilson on Sunday. Proctor can't get anyone out. Farnsworth is either hurt or was going to be the closer.
Totally agree, with Frans evidently suddenly a no-go we literally have nobody, our bullpen when from piss poor to being a complete joke...the cupboard is BARE
Villone for one more was a much better option. 19 pitches. 19. 19.
Bambino22
07-26-06, 10:00 PM
Hi guys just got in. Is the situation really as bungled as it appears to me?
Kyle Farnsworth must be dead
because his aching back cost us a sweep and a share of the WC lead
Prediction: ESPN blames this on ARod.
I wouldn't be surprised.
how the sea level have fallen
Dr. Gonzo
07-26-06, 10:00 PM
It isn't Proctor's fault. He shouldn't have been used tonight.agreed,
i would have even rather seen chacon or wilson, and at least myers
WTF
proctor is always crap, like any pitcher is when overused, well that is what 3 innings in two days is.
i hate you joe
knickfan23
07-26-06, 10:00 PM
Looks like Inside the Lines will be working overtime tonight.
jimmykey2
07-26-06, 10:00 PM
Exactly right.
You can't use Mo either for 2 innings tonight, because he's pitched 2 straight days.
He shouldn't be pitching at all. He's pitched 3 of the last 4 days.
TheMelkMan
07-26-06, 10:00 PM
Torre, IMO should've done this if Farns and Mo were unavailable
Leave Villone until he puts two runners on, then go to Myers or Chacon.
RhodeyYankee2638
07-26-06, 10:00 PM
Villone for one more was a much better option. 19 pitches. 19. 19.
only 12 strikes, he was clearly struggling with command
hobokenfish
07-26-06, 10:00 PM
Exactly, every option possible would have been better than Beam.
I would rather roll the dice with Myers against righties than use Beam in this spot.
Seriously. Beam couldn't do the job the last time he was here. Why the hell is he in a 2 run game?
This game is about to get out of reach, and it would have been a very nice win. Instead, Joe's little experiment blew up in his face.
nyyfan11111
07-26-06, 10:00 PM
We Can Come Back! ;)
PeteRFNY
07-26-06, 10:00 PM
I call the mustard for the salami!
161 and River Ave.
07-26-06, 10:00 PM
How are ppl calling out Torre when Farnsworthless gets hurt in the bullpen?!
dabomb2045
07-26-06, 10:00 PM
Ron starts to give up runs, when he go's more than 2 ip.
He's a better option the 10 era Beam. I'd rather use Myers then Beam.
PittsburghYankeeFan
07-26-06, 10:00 PM
thank you...Beam was the only guy available, at that time
No, Ron Villone only pitched 19...he could have given them an out or two. Myers at least for the lefties?
Kluivert4Ever
07-26-06, 10:00 PM
Ron starts to give up runs, when he go's more than 2 ip.
I dont remember him giving up any runs the last two times he went three innings.
fredgmuggs
07-26-06, 10:00 PM
The question I have tonight is when exactly did Torre find out that Farnsworth was unavailable for this game? If he knew it from the beginning of the game, then his bullpen management was atrocious... but if Farnsworth not being able to pitch was a recent development (say like in the 8th inning) then it mitigates what has happened. Either way though, it was a disaster for a game you thought the Yanks had in the bag.
YankeeinCT
07-26-06, 10:00 PM
This is typical of Torre. He only trusts a chosen few. But bringing in Bean had to be partly Guidry's decision and a stupid one.
EdRuane
07-26-06, 10:00 PM
Villone for one more was a much better option. 19 pitches. 19. 19.
Remember when Mariano had pitched two innings and 19 pitches? Joe thought it a good idea to have him come back for a third inning...
jughead
07-26-06, 10:00 PM
Torre needs to hand over all bullpen managing to Mazzilli and never ever have input in the decision again. This is almost as bad as that Konerko at bat last year
jlw1980
07-26-06, 10:00 PM
Exactly right.
You can't use Mo either for 2 innings tonight, because he's pitched 2 straight days.
Tomorrow's an off day. He could manage. It would've been better than throwing this game away. :-2cents-:
Yanksin2k6
07-26-06, 10:01 PM
You know what Im sick of him saying that Mo isnt available. They have off tomorrow and your telling me that Mo couldnt pitch 2 innings??? What are these guys getting paid for???
flymick24
07-26-06, 10:01 PM
proctor obviously wasn't off limits tonight because he was used, so he should have started the beginning of the inning
We Can Come Back! ;)
not when it was mismanaged into a 5-run deficit
SoCal Pinstriper
07-26-06, 10:01 PM
General Warning
Language
montyque
07-26-06, 10:01 PM
We need Chacon to pull a October '05 El Duque.
b_joseph
07-26-06, 10:01 PM
He's a better option the 10 era Beam. I'd rather use Myers then Beam.
Myers facing some righties..that would have been nice
allstarcano22
07-26-06, 10:01 PM
icant watch anymore this is disgusting
Kluivert4Ever
07-26-06, 10:01 PM
He's a better option the 10 era Beam. I'd rather use Myers then Beam.
Exactly.
My order of preference would have been.
1. Villone
2. Mariano (he has been overworked but we got a day off tomorrow)
3. Myers
4. Chacon
5. Proctor
6. Beam
SheffRocks11
07-26-06, 10:01 PM
Wow... I left for 10 minutes.
dabomb2045
07-26-06, 10:01 PM
Myers facing some righties..that would have been nice
Yeah cuz Beam can get people out....12.38 era now
nyyfan11111
07-26-06, 10:02 PM
Lets just focus on winning this game....we have jeter, giambi and a-rod due up....lets pray chacon can hold them.
Villone for a 3rd inning. We have the day off tommorrow. We just totally gave away a game.
The decision is so obvious, I can't understand the argument. He threw 19 pitches, was very effective, and has a history of throwing multiple innings in games. The only choice was Villone.
Maynerd
07-26-06, 10:02 PM
Kyle Farnsworth must be dead
because his aching back cost us a sweep and a share of the WC lead
With a win, we would have had the WC lead outright. With a loss, we drop behind both the CWS and the Twinkies.
Yankees8185
07-26-06, 10:02 PM
I don't know what Villone ever did to Torre but it must've been bad.
donniesrecordholdsup
07-26-06, 10:02 PM
if proctor starts the inning, its a completly different situation. he gave up a ton of bloops anyway. he mightve been able to get through the inning without blowing the lead if he starts it. either way beam was the worst possible choice.
jimmykey2
07-26-06, 10:02 PM
Myers facing some righties..that would have been nice
Exactly... enough of the Myers to righties talk.
Ummm.... that was a strikeout ump.
Yanksin2k6
07-26-06, 10:02 PM
And I may as well say it before someone else does.
IT WAS ALL ARODS FAULT!!!!!!!!! I WISH THEY WOULD TRADE HIM!!! I MEAN THE GUY CANT EVEN PITCH!!!
Ok... I have spoken..
Maybe it's because I've only been watching on and off... but I can't see how this is Torre's fault if Farnsworth is hurt.
Villone for a 3rd inning? Bad idea.
Mo for 2 innings? Bad idea.
Overused Proctor? Bad idea.
Myers against righties? Bad idea.
Chacon? Bad idea.
Wonder if it would have been managed differently if they had known something was wrong with Farnsworth earlier.
FormerlyKnownAsMHHL
07-26-06, 10:02 PM
It's pretty obvious that this thread is filled with people who, one, are not athletes, and two, think their ................ don't stink. "Should've left Villone in" "Should've pitched Chacon" "Mo Could've pitched two" "Proctor could've went". Give me a ................ing break. Anyone can sit here once it's happened and shoot their mouth. Torre did nothing wrong tonight, you bashers are clueless and annoying.
right now carl pavano and kyle farnswoth are sharing a laugh
jughead
07-26-06, 10:02 PM
Thanks for the squeeze ump, you .....
now the ump is jobbing us
b_joseph
07-26-06, 10:02 PM
I dont remember him giving up any runs the last two times he went three innings.
July 9th and July 2nd
EdRuane
07-26-06, 10:02 PM
General Warning
Language
I know "bullpen management" is a four-letter word around here.
I'd like to welcome back the Red Sox trolls that scurried away the last inning.
utopiapkwy
07-26-06, 10:02 PM
Ron starts to give up runs, when he go's more than 2 ip.
More than the three that are already in?
CptCrunch
07-26-06, 10:02 PM
1 down.
knickfan23
07-26-06, 10:02 PM
Even starting the 8th with Chacon would have been acceptable.
Lets not lose our minds here.
nyyfan11111
07-26-06, 10:02 PM
Ok 1 out
Maynerd
07-26-06, 10:02 PM
Cool. An out.
SheffRocks11
07-26-06, 10:03 PM
haha... chacon gets a k.
I don't know what Villone ever did to Torre but it must've been bad.
Villone accidently spilled Torre's cup of tea. :(
Kluivert4Ever
07-26-06, 10:03 PM
This is why people go ballistic when we use Mo in a non-save situation like we did on Monday.
Save Mo then, use him for two tonight.
TheMelkMan
07-26-06, 10:03 PM
Derosa K's An out. OMG!
BroadwayBomber55
07-26-06, 10:03 PM
We need a DP, very badly.
DP and the Yanks win this game. Jeter, Giambi, A-rod, Posada for the 9th....
SoCal Pinstriper
07-26-06, 10:03 PM
The question I have tonight is when exactly did Torre find out that Farnsworth was unavailable for this game. If he knew it from the beginning of the game then his bullpen management was atrocious... but if Farnsworth not being able to pitch was a recent development (say like in the 8th inning) then it mitigates what has happened. Either way though, it was a disaster for a game you thought the yanks had in the bag.I posted in the ITL thread that I thought Farns would save us, and the game.
I am mystified.:(
Jetfanmack
07-26-06, 10:03 PM
DFA Ponson, Chacon is the man. Sea Level returns!
ZYanksRule
07-26-06, 10:03 PM
The question I have tonight is when exactly did Torre find out that Farnsworth was unavailable for this game? If he knew it from the beginning of the game, then his bullpen management was atrocious... but if Farnsworth not being able to pitch was a recent development (say like in the 8th inning) then it mitigates what has happened. Either way though, it was a disaster for a game you thought the yanks had in the bag.
Farnsy was warming up, and all of a sudden, Beam comes out.
SOmething happened to him warming up.
over under on runs scored after 1 out
I won't let Chacon get my hopes up
Yanksin2k6
07-26-06, 10:03 PM
right now carl pavano and kyle farnswoth are sharing a laugh
All the way to the bank.
Kluivert4Ever
07-26-06, 10:03 PM
July 9th and July 2nd
Was that the last time he went 3 innings?
nyctalopia
07-26-06, 10:03 PM
DP please !!
jughead
07-26-06, 10:03 PM
Way to go Chacon!
BroadwayBomber55
07-26-06, 10:03 PM
Nice job Shawn!
sweet_lou_14
07-26-06, 10:03 PM
Holy Crap, Chacon!!!!
survelvn
07-26-06, 10:03 PM
oh thank god
good pitching, Chacon. nice catch
shawn chacon holy crapola
PeteRFNY
07-26-06, 10:03 PM
Holy ................
CptCrunch
07-26-06, 10:03 PM
Holy crapola. We're still in this.
nyyfan11111
07-26-06, 10:03 PM
OK were coming back!
CanoForPresident
07-26-06, 10:04 PM
That was HUGE
brosiusbuddy
07-26-06, 10:04 PM
Baby Chac!!!!!!!!!!!!
stephsamps
07-26-06, 10:04 PM
Chac the Monkey is back!!!! Come on O!!!!
South Facing Epitaph
07-26-06, 10:04 PM
Hell of a job, Chacon.
EdRuane
07-26-06, 10:04 PM
That's called "Getting bailed out".
We can do this!
yankee48104
07-26-06, 10:04 PM
Chaaaaaaacccccccc!!!!!!
jimmykey2
07-26-06, 10:04 PM
Alright Shawnie...
let's get this damn run and win!!!
Jetfanmack
07-26-06, 10:04 PM
Sea Level Is The Man!
SheffRocks11
07-26-06, 10:04 PM
Holy Sh*t! Nice Shawn! Lets go boys, we can still do this!
utopiapkwy
07-26-06, 10:04 PM
minor miracle.
simmy886
07-26-06, 10:04 PM
Quote:
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=6 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=alt2 style="BORDER-RIGHT: 1px inset; BORDER-TOP: 1px inset; BORDER-LEFT: 1px inset; BORDER-BOTTOM: 1px inset">Originally Posted by ICEBERG18
It will be interesting to see who the media blames this on if we lose.
TJ Beam or Proctor?
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
A-Rod.
lol too true.:D
by the way the yankees are winning this game, stop whining everybody wheres your faith.
Remember when Mariano had pitched two innings and 19 pitches? Joe thought it a good idea to have him come back for a third inning...
Either, on average, is a better idea than putting a rookie into that situation. Just because it doesn't work out sometimes doesn't make it a bad idea. Beam there is a bad idea.
montyque
07-26-06, 10:04 PM
We need Chacon to pull a October '05 El Duque.
I love it when I do that.
161 and River Ave.
07-26-06, 10:04 PM
And if Villone had stayed in, and given up runs, Torre would still be crucified...ah I love it.
jughead
07-26-06, 10:04 PM
I'll be REALLY upset if they lose now.
nyctalopia
07-26-06, 10:04 PM
hahahah nice!!@
hobokenfish
07-26-06, 10:04 PM
Exactly... enough of the Myers to righties talk.
Beam against anyone is better?
Wow, double play. Nice job by Chacon. Apparently he would have been better than Beam too.
ZYanksRule
07-26-06, 10:04 PM
DOUBLE PLAY!!!!
Middle of the lineup, let's get this win back
YanksForLife
07-26-06, 10:04 PM
Nice DP by Chacon, lets get 2 ................ing runs right here and take back this game.
so um, otska, yeah. didnt the yanks beat up on him earlier in the season
he's a curveball thrower
WebsterMulligan
07-26-06, 10:04 PM
Wow! Chacon!!! :gulp:
Jglaubman
07-26-06, 10:04 PM
YES YES YES!!! Wow, only a 1-run lead for the Rangers. WE CAN WIN THIS!!!
b_joseph
07-26-06, 10:05 PM
More than the three that are already in?
How am I supposed to know? I'm just a simple country boy, not Nostradamus
Dr. Gonzo
07-26-06, 10:05 PM
I won't let Chacon get my hopes upthey should have given him that start on normal rest instead of chacon, they had a short hook because of attitude
jughead
07-26-06, 10:05 PM
Giambi has to snap out of it with a 2 run blast
Maybe Chacon would've been no so bad idea....
Still, lucky. Hopefully they can mount another comeback.
ICEBERG18
07-26-06, 10:05 PM
How are ppl calling out Torre when Farnsworthless gets hurt in the bullpen?!
I don't care if he got his leg blown off in the bullpen, you don't bring in Beam in that situation. Then he proceeds to bring in Proctor, If Proctor was available why didn't you just start the inning with him? Just an all around **** by Torre tonight.:mad:
BroadwayBomber55
07-26-06, 10:05 PM
We can still win this game. I expected to be an offensive shootout tonight and it is.
CptCrunch
07-26-06, 10:05 PM
I love it when I do that.
We're not worthy! We're not worthy!
Chacon appreciation/fan club thread starts in 3...2....
utopiapkwy
07-26-06, 10:05 PM
Derek leading off, there is a chance.
sweet_lou_14
07-26-06, 10:05 PM
What this really comes down to is that Torre locks himself into rigid ideas like "I don't trust Shawn Chacon" and as a result, he goes to Chacon as his FOURTH option when he should have been SECOND tonight (first option: let Villone start the 8th).
SoCal Pinstriper
07-26-06, 10:05 PM
It's pretty obvious that this thread is filled with people who, one, are not athletes, and two, think their ................ don't stink. "Should've left Villone in" "Should've pitched Chacon" "Mo Could've pitched two" "Proctor could've went". Give me a ................ing break. Anyone can sit here once it's happened and shoot their mouth. Torre did nothing wrong tonight, you bashers are clueless and annoying....and calling anyone here clueless is against Community Standards.
Yanksin2k6
07-26-06, 10:05 PM
I won't let Chacon get my hopes up
How was that for you??
donniesrecordholdsup
07-26-06, 10:05 PM
Maybe it's because I've only been watching on and off... but I can't see how this is Torre's fault if Farnsworth is hurt.
Villone for a 3rd inning? Bad idea.
Mo for 2 innings? Bad idea.
Overused Proctor? Bad idea.
Myers against righties? Bad idea.
Chacon? Bad idea.
Wonder if it would have been managed differently if they had known something was wrong with Farnsworth earlier.
beam is worse then any of those choices. chacon is better then beam.
Dr. Gonzo
07-26-06, 10:05 PM
Wow! Chacon!!! :gulp:lets hope this see-saw game go back in our direction
hobokenfish
07-26-06, 10:05 PM
Jeter, Giambi, A-Rod. I guess if there was ever a chance....
TheMelkMan
07-26-06, 10:05 PM
We need a DP, very badly.
Wish Granted. Let's not give up. Jeter, Giambi, Arod coming up against Otsuka. After today, "fire torre" is going back in my sig no matter what.
Remember the Posada HR? Repeat, anyone?
OK....Mo for the 9th now.
By the way, those saying Villone for a third inning is a bad idea...please explain?
A guy who has generally been the long man for his clubs- and has started many games- had thrown 19 pitches. If you can give me a legitimate reason why he couldn't pitch into a third inning, I will discuss. Otherwise, simply saying it isn't the right move doesn't fly. It was not only the right move, but pretty much the only option.
Unless Matt Smith was on the team. For some reason, Torre doesn't like how he gets his outs, whereas he likes Beam's stuff and approach.
YankeeinCT
07-26-06, 10:05 PM
If only Melky were coming to bat.
How was that for you??
marvelous
bittersweet,
he came in one batter too late
jlw1980
07-26-06, 10:06 PM
I can't watch.
161 and River Ave.
07-26-06, 10:06 PM
I don't care if he got his leg blown off in the bullpen, you don't bring in Beam in that situation. Then he proceeds to bring in Proctor. Just an all around **** by Torre tonight.:mad:
Who should have pitched? Myers?
jimmykey2
07-26-06, 10:06 PM
Coming into this game, I thought Proctor and Mo were off limits. I expected to see Villone, Beam, and Farnsworth to close the game. The idea of pitching Myers to Matthews, Kinsler, and Young is purely idiotic.
Bambino22
07-26-06, 10:06 PM
Viva la late inning comeback
ZYanksRule
07-26-06, 10:06 PM
I don't care if he got his leg blown off in the bullpen, you don't bring in Beam in that situation. Then he proceeds to bring in Proctor. Just an all around **** by Torre tonight.:mad:
Even though Proctor hasn't allowed a run since the ASB?????
He wasn't supposed to be used tonight, but you gotta think he can get the job done there.
EdRuane
07-26-06, 10:06 PM
I know it didn't carry the same weight, but that reminded me of the Mussina out of the bullpen job in the 2003 ALCS game 7.
nyyfan11111
07-26-06, 10:06 PM
Giambi needs to come through this inning!
beam is worse then any of those choices. chacon is better then beam.
And if Chacon had come in and given up a couple of bombs? The Yankees were LUCKY. I liked Shawn last year, but he has been atrocious out of the 'pen this year (as well as starting).
Yankees8185
07-26-06, 10:07 PM
Please score.
Jetfanmack
07-26-06, 10:07 PM
Damn, I wanna face Cordero again.
And if Villone had stayed in, and given up runs, Torre would still be crucified...ah I love it.
No way. With Farnsworth hurt, nobody in their right mind would have asked for Beam. And Proctor should never have pitched.
why must Alex be batting 3rd on a night like this?
the gods must work for BBTN
BroadwayBomber55
07-26-06, 10:07 PM
Watch for Antori Otsuka's delivery. A lot of teams complain about balks.
PittsburghYankeeFan
07-26-06, 10:07 PM
Let's hear Joe on the postgame...maybe they are really shopping Beam. Well, the price sure went down.
please win this game. please win this game.
lets go yankees
Dr. Gonzo
07-26-06, 10:07 PM
who cares last inning is over
lets focus on the task at hand
knickfan23
07-26-06, 10:07 PM
so um, otsuka, yeah. didnt the yanks beat up on him earlier in the season
he's a curveball thrower
That was Ortiz and the Red Sox. 3run homer in the bottom of the 9th.
yanksphan
07-26-06, 10:07 PM
It's on.
survelvn
07-26-06, 10:07 PM
good start...
stephsamps
07-26-06, 10:07 PM
I don't care if he got his leg blown off in the bullpen, you don't bring in Beam in that situation. Then he proceeds to bring in Proctor, If Proctor was available why didn't you just start the inning with him? Just an all around **** by Torre tonight.:mad:
It appears something happened when Farns was warming up. Beam was also warming. Probably didn't have time to warm someone else up in time to get in the game.
GO DJ!!!!!!!!!!
jughead
07-26-06, 10:07 PM
That's what you call a Cap'n
Jetfanmack
07-26-06, 10:07 PM
Jeterian swing right there.
PeteRFNY
07-26-06, 10:07 PM
That's a start!
SheffRocks11
07-26-06, 10:08 PM
jeter kicks ass.
sweet_lou_14
07-26-06, 10:08 PM
Jeter is the man.
CptCrunch
07-26-06, 10:08 PM
Cappy does his job. Let's get him in!
jlw1980
07-26-06, 10:08 PM
Yay, Jetes!!!! :gulp:
BroadwayBomber55
07-26-06, 10:08 PM
Do you send DJ Here?
jimmykey2
07-26-06, 10:08 PM
The comeback begins...
WE ARE WINNING THIS DAMN GAME!
Bambino22
07-26-06, 10:08 PM
1 on for Teh Giambin0
ZYanksRule
07-26-06, 10:08 PM
beam is worse then any of those choices. chacon is better then beam.
Exactly his point.
Joe had NOT ONE good choice there, and he knew that. He knew he was playing with fire, unfortunetley, it blew up.
JETER SINGLE!!!
LET'S GO JASON!!!
Yanksin2k6
07-26-06, 10:08 PM
Good Start....
hobokenfish
07-26-06, 10:08 PM
Coming into this game, I thought Proctor and Mo were off limits. I expected to see Villone, Beam, and Farnsworth to close the game. The idea of pitching Myers to Matthews, Kinsler, and Young is purely idiotic.
You go batter by batter. Just because Myers comes in and gets one or two outs doesn't mean he has to stay in. TJ Beam was a bad decision.
Kluivert4Ever
07-26-06, 10:08 PM
Yay, Derek!!!
I love how annoying the Captn can be
yankee48104
07-26-06, 10:08 PM
Captain my captain
Dr. Gonzo
07-26-06, 10:08 PM
nice job jeter,
lets go meatball, do something for once, you are beyond due
b_joseph
07-26-06, 10:08 PM
here we come
jughead
07-26-06, 10:08 PM
Do you send Jeter here? Laird has a good arm
I am begging begging begging you to at least advance the runner big guy
jlw1980
07-26-06, 10:08 PM
Come on, Jason! :cheer:
YanksForLife
07-26-06, 10:08 PM
0-11 in this series for Jason, ouch.
If A-rod hits a HR this inning....well, I think everyone shuts up (until he makes an out on Sunday, of course).
yankees27
07-26-06, 10:08 PM
Atta way Derek!
hobokenfish
07-26-06, 10:08 PM
This would be a nice time for Giambi to break out and actually get a hit.
Dr. Gonzo
07-26-06, 10:08 PM
steal jeter,
Yankees8185
07-26-06, 10:09 PM
Please get a hit here.
montyque
07-26-06, 10:09 PM
Come on Jason... bust out of the slump NOW.
That was Ortiz and the Red Sox. 3run homer in the bottom of the 9th.
Posada had a 2-run walkoff against him also.
Jason is soooo due
SERIOUSLY
simmy886
07-26-06, 10:09 PM
Steal second? Please no DP.
BroadwayBomber55
07-26-06, 10:09 PM
Jason's got wide-eyes looking for a bomb.
JASON WITH AN ABSOLUTE RIPPER! THAT WAS A HEAVY TORPEDO SHOT!
YANKEES HIT THE FRONT! ZHASTA! ZHASTA! ZHASTA! ZHASTA!
yanksphan
07-26-06, 10:09 PM
buh bye
Jetfanmack
07-26-06, 10:09 PM
Yesss!!! Giambino!!!
South Facing Epitaph
07-26-06, 10:09 PM
Giambi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CptCrunch
07-26-06, 10:09 PM
Giambino!!!!
jimmykey2
07-26-06, 10:09 PM
WE ARE WINNING!!!
Tonight
CanoForPresident
07-26-06, 10:09 PM
Wooohhhhhhhhh!
Giammmbbbbiiii!
ICEBERG18
07-26-06, 10:09 PM
Giambi..........hr
jlw1980
07-26-06, 10:09 PM
Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sweet_lou_14
07-26-06, 10:10 PM
Jesus Christ what a game!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
SheffRocks11
07-26-06, 10:10 PM
hell yes! GIAMBINO!
stephsamps
07-26-06, 10:10 PM
Giambomb!!!!!!!!
EdRuane
07-26-06, 10:10 PM
Jason is soooo due
We have a winner!
Yanksin2k6
07-26-06, 10:10 PM
Giambiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
Dr. Gonzo
07-26-06, 10:10 PM
what a game
you are the man, meatball
talk about a bi-polar game
Ok, then. Now....easy call. Mo :)
The Dynasty
07-26-06, 10:10 PM
Oh My ................ing God!!!!!!!!!!!!! I Love The Yankees!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
YESSSSSSSSSSSSsSSSSSSSSSS
Mean Linguine
07-26-06, 10:10 PM
Yaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
yankee48104
07-26-06, 10:10 PM
Tounge out: he was oooooverdue!!!
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