View Full Version : Anyone expect Sheff to be a problem?
SVeyland1
05-12-06, 01:14 PM
Considering now how bad that the Yankees need Sheff, does everyone expect him to come back from the DL once he is eligible to be activated. Or, will he baby his wrist because he is in the final year of his contract? Buster Onley talks about this in his blog and that the Yanks need to decide if they can rely on Sheff or is he going to "become Shut-Down Sheff and decide he isn't going to be invested in the 2006 Yankees because he doesn't have a contract for 2007, then they definitely need a proven bat."
i'm not worried about sheffield.. i know he talks a lot of shlt but he plays hurt and he produces..
stephsamps
05-12-06, 03:01 PM
i'm not worried about sheffield.. i know he talks a lot of shlt but he plays hurt and he produces..
Not to mention that if he doesn't play, he won't get paid. If people see him as an injury risk, or that he is not healed, there's no way he cashes in.
JeffWeaverFan
05-12-06, 04:53 PM
Yes, I am worried about Sheff becoming a problem.
GimeMoMuny
05-12-06, 05:00 PM
Sheff should realize that his extension will only be exercised if he produces.
The Yankees won't be forced into anything and he'll only hurt his chances at a payday anywhere else next year by being a baby.
iamdoingthat
05-12-06, 05:02 PM
Sheff should realize that his extension will only be exercised if he produces.
The Yankees won't be forced into anything and he'll only hurt his chances at a payday anywhere else next year by being a baby.
That hasn't stopped him from misbehaving before.
I'm worried about him, I've been worried since last year's "trade for Mike Cameron" rumors. He basically admitted that he doesn't play his hardest if he's unhappy.
I just hope he straightens himself out, heals, and then plays honestly for us the rest of the season.
hardrain
05-12-06, 05:07 PM
Yes, I think he will actually go on a sit-down strike; I hope I'm wrong.
GimeMoMuny
05-12-06, 05:08 PM
I'm worried about him, I've been worried since last year's "trade for Mike Cameron" rumors.Why were you worried then? He had his best month of last year in July right after those rumors.
If he wants money, he'll play. He wants money.
iamdoingthat
05-12-06, 05:11 PM
Why were you worried then? He had his best month of last year in July right after those rumors.
If he wants money, he'll play. He wants money.
Edited my post to clarify.
He said during those trade rumors that he wouldn't play for a team if he was unhappy with them. As he's done in the past. Sure, he'll be on the field, but he's lazy on defense, and swings for the fences only in his at-bats.
Now, he may be unhappy about his 2007 option. In my more paranoid moments, I read his "I won't play until I'm 100%" comments as veiled threats to pick up his contract. Kind of like "It's not worth it for me to play hurt for this team until they show me [the always infamous] respect."
So I'm worried.
Of course....past history indicates he may decide to give halfhearted efforts down the stretch.
ryanm1058123
05-12-06, 05:13 PM
Sheff needs to do what's best for Sheff.. that means as soon as he is healed he needs to come out and start playing
Do we have any actual indications that Sheff will do this or is this just paranoia and Buster Onley?
yankeebot
05-12-06, 05:15 PM
Sheff's only concern in baseball is what is best for Sheff. That means hitting. Fielding is incidental.
SheffieldFan11
05-13-06, 04:00 PM
I remember hearing somewhere that Gary Sheffield took 4.5 million less to play for the Yankees when he signed.
Was wondering if anyone would be able to give me some information about this or provide me with a link to him saying it.
He said he made commpensations to come to the Yankees and that he should be rewarded for it. Did he really take 4.5 million less?
Kluivert4Ever
05-13-06, 04:17 PM
i'm not worried about sheffield.. i know he talks a lot of shlt but he plays hurt and he produces..
Agreed.
SheffieldFan11
05-14-06, 02:16 AM
bump
was wondering if anyone had the answer to my question
Bob Saccomano
05-14-06, 02:26 AM
Of course....past history indicates he may decide to give halfhearted efforts down the stretch.
He said that in past years, it was due to his team having no chance at the playoffs, and as a result, feeling like he didn't need to play so hard. When asked if he wanted to stay with the Yankees, he said that he absolutely did since the Yankees are contenders year-round and that it keeps him motivated to keep on doing his best. I think the issues in the past were motivational, and aren't necessarily a concern for a contending team. He's stated that he wants to reach 500 homers and get another WS ring, and his best chance at staying motivated to do that is to keep with the Yankees.
However, I think there is legitimate concern that Matsui's injury will make Sheff think he can hold the team hostage for that option. To his credit, he was hitting well before his injury; but acting like a baby and not wanting to get back as soon as possible only hurts his chances at the option vesting and at a big payday in the offseason.
I just wish someone would make him realize that.
Yankees1962
05-14-06, 02:51 AM
Also, with Matsui's injury this is Sheffield's opportunity to be the hero by coming back strong from his injury. Doing so, would make the Boss a happy man who undoubtedly would extend his contract if Sheffield catches fire when he comes back.
ryanthe13th
05-14-06, 03:18 AM
It makes no sense for Sheffield to not play well. He's aging and if the Yankees don't pick up his option(which I believe they will), he'll need this 2006 stats to sell himself.
SheffRocks11
05-14-06, 09:12 AM
Agreed.
me too...
38Special
05-14-06, 09:16 AM
I remember hearing somewhere that Gary Sheffield took 4.5 million less to play for the Yankees when he signed.
Was wondering if anyone would be able to give me some information about this or provide me with a link to him saying it.
He said he made commpensations to come to the Yankees and that he should be rewarded for it. Did he really take 4.5 million less?
He's making 13 million a year as a guy in his mid to late 30s. I doubt he took less money.
apalradio
05-14-06, 09:45 AM
He already IS a problem. The fact that it only took a couple of weeks into the season, after an entire winter of rest and rahab, to develop physical issues is a problem. The fact that he has made it clear that he won't play again until HE HIMSELF determines when that happens is a problem. The fact that he came into the season unhappy about being "disrespected" is a problem. The fact that his production is not able to be a part of this lineup at this time is a problem. Otherwise, everything is okay.
goin for 27
05-14-06, 09:48 AM
I remember hearing somewhere that Gary Sheffield took 4.5 million less to play for the Yankees when he signed.
Was wondering if anyone would be able to give me some information about this or provide me with a link to him saying it.
He said he made commpensations to come to the Yankees and that he should be rewarded for it. Did he really take 4.5 million less?
Definitely not. In fact, it was argued at the time that George was only bidding against himself at one point, as the numbers went well over other suitors.
Mr. Mxylsplk
05-14-06, 11:11 AM
Do we have any actual indications that Sheff will do this or is this just paranoia and Buster Onley?
Paranoia. (Well, I'd call it whining, but paranoia will do). Sheff bitches and moans a lot, but all he's done as a yank is mash, mash, mash. Plus, if he's true to all his complaining, he wants to get paid next year, and he's smart enough to see that the only way to make that happen is to be out there putting up big numbers.
yanksphan
05-14-06, 11:17 AM
He already IS a problem. The fact that it only took a couple of weeks into the season, after an entire winter of rest and rahab, to develop physical issues is a problem.
So he and Shea Hillenbrand planned that whole incident at 1B this offseason?
Gotcha....:uhh:
Mr. Mxylsplk
05-14-06, 11:18 AM
So he and Shea Hillenbrand planned that whole incident at 1B this offseason?
Gotcha....:uhh:
You're so naive. ;)
YankeePride1967
05-14-06, 11:34 AM
Also, with Matsui's injury this is Sheffield's opportunity to be the hero by coming back strong from his injury. Doing so, would make the Boss a happy man who undoubtedly would extend his contract if Sheffield catches fire when he comes back.
Agreed, after the class Matsui displayed Friday, I think anyone would be a fool to be a problem. Go out, produce and he'll be taken care of at the end.
Nuke LaLoosh
05-14-06, 11:37 AM
It makes no sense for Sheffield to not play well. He's aging and if the Yankees don't pick up his option(which I believe they will), he'll need this 2006 stats to sell himself.
Nuff said.
However I wil add in a ditto regarding the circumstnces of this injury. He was hustling to 1st and collided with Hillenbrand. Was this part of some "get hurt so I can hold out" plan? I don't think so.
I don't think he's that much of a jerk to hold the team hostage but if he does go on a "sit down strike" then I hope the Yankees DFA him.
I don't think that the Yankees will pussy foot around with him. That being said i believe that a healthy Sheffield would make an excellent dh next year.
Dr. Gonzo
05-14-06, 02:59 PM
yes, i think he should be traded
he will be another DH guy soon, and we have a million of those
get what you can, especially since he is in the last year of a contract
i love sheff he is the man, but i question what will happen without a contract, etc.
i would also love to have great defense in the OF
iamdoingthat
05-14-06, 05:19 PM
He can't be traded, he said so last year.
apalradio
05-14-06, 10:00 PM
So he and Shea Hillenbrand planned that whole incident at 1B this offseason?
Gotcha....:uhh:
Of course not. But the fact that he's hurt is a problem.
yanksphan
05-14-06, 10:13 PM
Of course not. But the fact that he's hurt is a problem.
OK. But to lump that with all of those other problems was a bit unfair.
DandyAndy46
05-14-06, 10:42 PM
Listen, I like Sheff...he's a monster hitter...but the Yankees are fools if they re-sign him. If they pick up his option then he may be happy for the rest of this season. However, next season it's going to be the same dog and pony show when the subject of 2008 comes up. It will be more of "I'm not respected," "why am I not gettin paid."
It's been great Gary...been nice knowing you
Martini
05-14-06, 11:33 PM
I really don't think we'll re-sign him, but if he's healthy, it'd be great to have his bat this year.
His attitude doesn't concern me too much. He's only one guy, after all. I don't put too much stock in all that "cancer in the clubhouse" stuff.
silverdsl
05-15-06, 09:14 AM
Sad, sad, sad, that we even have to have this discussion about Sheffield and that because of his past history some are suspicious that he might have a sit-down strike or not give full effort on the field. I think that if Sheffield really wants his option to be picked up by the Yankees he's going to play as hard as ever when he comes off the DL. However, if he's decided he wants to go elsewhere or has some other game in mind, then all bets are off, and it might be quite an adventure with Sheffield.
Mr. Mxylsplk
05-15-06, 09:19 AM
I think that if Sheffield really wants his option to be picked up by the Yankees he's going to play as hard as ever when he comes off the DL. However, if he's decided he wants to go elsewhere or has some other game in mind, then all bets are off, and it might be quite an adventure with Sheffield.
Unless he wants to retire, why would where he wants to play next year affect how hard he plays this year? Whether it's impressing the yanks enough to pick up his option of impressing some other team to offer him a contract, he has to play hard if money is what he wants.
yank4life2005
05-15-06, 09:20 AM
I hope Sheff's injury is legit cause he is only hurting himself as he will be a FA at the end of the season if he is pouting about the Yankees not picking up his option for next year.
mrmike98
05-15-06, 10:27 AM
I don't see The Yankees tolerating any loafing from Sheff once his injury is healed. Plus, as stated above it's not in his interest to extend his absence.
iWant27
05-15-06, 10:46 AM
Thats the problem with players like Sheff . They are good talent but they are people who will stoop low to any extent for the money they havent earned yet . He is getting paid for this year , so why not play without whinning this year , instead of worrying about the money next year . He is a great player but he is an ass****.
iWant27
05-15-06, 10:48 AM
Sad, sad, sad, that we even have to have this discussion about Sheffield and that because of his past history some are suspicious that he might have a sit-down strike or not give full effort on the field. I think that if Sheffield really wants his option to be picked up by the Yankees he's going to play as hard as ever when he comes off the DL. However, if he's decided he wants to go elsewhere or has some other game in mind, then all bets are off, and it might be quite an adventure with Sheffield.
So lets say he plays hard this season , and yankees pick up his contract . Hoe about next year . he wont even try next year since that would be his last year .
Players like Sheff only play , when they have money coming to them for the next year . He is a shameless guy . He is going to be trouble this year and next year too if yankees pick up his option .
i don't see him being a pain in the yanks' collective.
i see him being picked up for '08 and frankly will be the yanks' DH over the next few seasons, giambi's first base play be-damned.
Mr. Mxylsplk
05-15-06, 11:00 AM
So lets say he plays hard this season , and yankees pick up his contract . Hoe about next year . he wont even try next year since that would be his last year .
Like he didn't play in 03, his last year in Atlanta? What nonsense.
stephsamps
05-15-06, 01:17 PM
Unless he wants to retire, why would where he wants to play next year affect how hard he plays this year? Whether it's impressing the yanks enough to pick up his option of impressing some other team to offer him a contract, he has to play hard if money is what he wants.
Exactly. Another thought is that Sheff DOES want to impress those potential suitors so he won't go out there at 70 or 80%.
Boricua21
05-15-06, 02:14 PM
I don't think the Yanks will pick up his option. Maybe he can come back as a DH next year for 5 mil, but once his mind's made up about him not liking his status on a team, he's done. His head isn't into it. That was my biggest worry about getting him. I love the guy, but once his attitude turns sour, that's it.
Picking up Sheffield's option would be foolish. Send him to SF so he and Barry can DH for the Giants and kill each other. He's been a problem in the past - why wouldn't he be now. We need him this year, let's hope that we don't next year.
noneckwilliams
05-15-06, 09:28 PM
Unless he wants to retire, why would where he wants to play next year affect how hard he plays this year? Whether it's impressing the yanks enough to pick up his option of impressing some other team to offer him a contract, he has to play hard if money is what he wants.
The scenario where Shef just holds his breath and decides not to play until they pick up his option is just alot of media drivel.
He gains nothing by being a pain in the ass. He won't get a big payday here or anywhere else unless he plays and produces.
Boricua21
05-15-06, 09:54 PM
Why does everyone seem suprised? This guy has always been this way. He's a journeyman for a reason. He's a great player...but we all know when there's discontent...he's done. I can't believe this is still up for debate. He plays for the greatest team ever...If he's going to get an attitude this year...should we be suprised? I love the way he kills the ball, but I've watched him since I was a kid, he's always been the same. That's why they call him "2-year Gary". He's only happy for a maximum of 2 years into a contract. That's too bad. He's given us some great hits. Maybe they can talk him into DH'ing next year for about 5 mil.
Shaun4013
05-15-06, 10:57 PM
Sheff is NOT doing this to be a prick, he may have been a jerk in the past, but staying on the sideline is not going to get any option picked up and he knows that. I would rather him not play hurt anyway. Let him comeback healthy, hit 3 homers in his first week back, and all will be well.
Sheff is NOT doing this to be a prick, he may have been a jerk in the past, but staying on the sideline is not going to get any option picked up and he knows that. I would rather him not play hurt anyway. Let him comeback healthy, hit 3 homers in his first week back, and all will be well.
Looking at the time of your post, you must have been in bed by 11:00 PM, and dreaming by 11:30. ;)
Alot of posters are pointing out that Sheff has nothing to gain by doing any of this, but since when has Gary ever been a rational human being? Was he in any way rational in Milwaukee when he was purposely throwing balls away? Yes I understand he was incredibly young, but was he really any different LA? I love Gary but this is what he has and will always do.
The fact that he didn't complain with the Braves is due to the simple fact that he was having a career year and quite frankly didn't want to be extended because he knew he was in for a very lucrative offer in free agency.
Deez Nats
05-16-06, 06:23 AM
Picking up Sheffield's option would be foolish. Send him to SF so he and Barry can DH for the Giants and kill each other. He's been a problem in the past - why wouldn't he be now. We need him this year, let's hope that we don't next year.
I have a sneaking suspicion the Giants aren't looking for a DH. ;)
silverdsl
05-16-06, 07:46 AM
Unless he wants to retire, why would where he wants to play next year affect how hard he plays this year? Whether it's impressing the yanks enough to pick up his option of impressing some other team to offer him a contract, he has to play hard if money is what he wants.Sheffield has a history of being a problem for his teams and that's not stopped anyone from signing him.
Yanks Lifer
05-16-06, 08:49 AM
Yes, I think he will actually go on a sit-down strike; I hope I'm wrong.
I agree and think he's at least in part on one right now.
Mr. Mxylsplk
05-16-06, 08:54 AM
Sheffield has a history of being a problem for his teams and that's not stopped anyone from signing him.
He has a history of being a grouch. Other then the nonsense he pulled in Milwaukee, 15 years ago, he has no history of being a loafer or of doing anything but produce. There is absolutely nothing in the last 15 years of his career to suggest he won't give full effort as a player.
Mr. Mxylsplk
05-16-06, 08:58 AM
Alot of posters are pointing out that Sheff has nothing to gain by doing any of this, but since when has Gary ever been a rational human being? Was he in any way rational in Milwaukee when he was purposely throwing balls away? Yes I understand he was incredibly young, but was he really any different LA? I love Gary but this is what he has and will always do.
Was he any different in LA? Of course he was. He played his tail off and was an absolute star. He had some injuries there which kept him off the field, but lots of guys get hurt. To suggest he was purposely sitting out is just silly. He's done nothing since leaving Milwaukee but be one of the game's top producers. Is he a complainer? Sure he is. But other than some serious immaturity early in his career, he's never let his complaining get in the way of being an absolute star on the field. The way people are misrepresenting his career is pretty amusing.
World Champions NYY
05-16-06, 09:12 AM
I have no idea whether he'll be a problem, but it's comments like the ones he made with LA, and some reported actions he took to force a trade from LA (in addition to his actions while with Milwaukee), that can make a person wonder:
"It isn't about money, it's about the disrespect I've had to deal with since I came here." "Why should I continue to perform the way I have for them if I'm going to be dangled out there like that all the time?"
http://ww1.sportsline.com/ns/ce/multi/0,1511,3539299,00.html
http://www.dodgerplace.com/Sheftrade.htm
I have no idea whether he'll be a problem, but it's comments like the ones he made with LA, and some reported actions he took to force a trade from LA (in addition to his actions while with Milwaukee), that can make a person wonder:
"It isn't about money, it's about the disrespect I've had to deal with since I came here." "Why should I continue to perform the way I have for them if I'm going to be dangled out there like that all the time?"
http://ww1.sportsline.com/ns/ce/multi/0,1511,3539299,00.html
http://www.dodgerplace.com/Sheftrade.htm
What does what he said in LA have to do with anything in NY?
Last year, when trade rumors were swirling around him, he was pretty adamant that NY was the only place he wanted to play, and even suggested he would retire rather than play somewhere else. Of course, much of that was probably bluster, but despite his general feistiness, he has pretty consistently said that this is where he wants to be.
World Champions NYY
05-16-06, 09:21 AM
What does what he said in LA have to do with anything in NY?
Last year, when trade rumors were swirling around him, he was pretty adamant that NY was the only place he wanted to play, and even suggested he would retire rather than play somewhere else. Of course, much of that was probably bluster, but despite his general feistiness, he has pretty consistently said that this is where he wants to be.
As I indicated, I have no idea if he'll be a problem, but if history is any indication, an "unhappy" Sheffield or a Sheffield who feels he's "disrespected" has apparently been known to express his "displeasure" by making things unpleasant for his current team at the time.
Nuke LaLoosh
05-16-06, 09:23 AM
Can anyone point to anything he has said or done this year before or after the injury that indicates he is now or is planning to be a problem.
I am aware of his past, but it sure looked to me like he was trying pretty hard when he got hurt and I haven't heard a thing from anyone that indicates he is screwing around on the DL.
You can't run away from your past. He deserves some skepticism but how about he gets the benefit of the doubt until he actaully does or says something now to warrant the Sheff-bashing.
As I indicated, I have no idea if he'll be a problem, but if history is any indication, an "unhappy" Sheffield or a Sheffield who feels he's "disrespected" has apparently been known to express his "displeasure" by making things unpleasant for his current team at the time.
And yet we haven't heard a peep from him since he went on the DL.
Why does his history 10 - 15 years ago carry more weight with you than his recent history as a Yankee?
World Champions NYY
05-16-06, 09:32 AM
And yet we haven't heard a peep from him since he went on the DL.
Why does his history 10 - 15 years ago carry more weight with you than his recent history as a Yankee?
Firstly, his "unhappiness" with LA was 4 - 5 years ago. Folks in LA may have thought the manner in which he expressed his "unhappiness" in Milwaukee was 10 years behind him at the time and thus irrelevant.
Secondly, I don't mind if you are certain he won't be a problem. Nowhere have I discounted the possibility that you may in fact be correct. I simply wouldn't be surprised if he were.
slickknick
05-16-06, 09:49 AM
Let him heal. It's too soon to tell if he'll become a pain yet. We're not 10 games behind, it's still May and pitching help is on the way and Sturtze is finally gone. Not to make light of the games played in May though. He will kick it in gear because he wants an extension and/or a lucrative contract elsewhere. I'll take him as a full time DH next year in a heartbeat - Bernie should retire.
He'll be back.
YankeeStripes
05-16-06, 10:14 AM
when is he due to come back?
SheffRocks11
05-16-06, 05:53 PM
And yet we haven't heard a peep from him since he went on the DL.
Why does his history 10 - 15 years ago carry more weight with you than his recent history as a Yankee?
:clap: :clap: :clap:
And yet we haven't heard a peep from him since he went on the DL.
Why does his history 10 - 15 years ago carry more weight with you than his recent history as a Yankee?
Have you forgotten last year when he threatned to be a pain in the ass to which ever team the Yankees were gonna trade him to? Or how about spring training when he bitched about his contract?
SheffRocks11
05-16-06, 05:56 PM
Have you forgotten last year when he threatned to be a pain in the ass to which ever team the Yankees were gonna trade him to? Or how about spring training when he bitched about his contract?
Maybe because he wants to be a Yankee...?
That's a good thing right?
Maybe because he wants to be a Yankee...?
That's a good thing right?
You actually believe that? You think if he was a FA right now and the sox offered him say 15 mil he would still want to play on the Yankees?
SheffRocks11
05-16-06, 06:01 PM
You actually believe that? You think if he was a FA right now and the sox offered him say 15 mil he would still want to play on the Yankees?
well you never know until it happens do you.
well you never know until it happens do you.
No I do know. If his ultimate wish is to stay a Yankee then he wouldn't bitch about his contract. Because he knows if he offered to say sign an extension for 6 mil a year the Yankees would jump on it like Kirstie Alley on a chocolate covered cow.
I have a sneaking suspicion the Giants aren't looking for a DH. ;)
Errr did u not realize that I was both joking and taking a shot at the broken down creature known as Bonds that the Giants are trotting out to the field now?
And yet we haven't heard a peep from him since he went on the DL.
Why does his history 10 - 15 years ago carry more weight with you than his recent history as a Yankee?
Because even though I dye my hair blonde, the brown roots start to show again eventually. Sheff is sheff. He cannot change, just as Clemens also pisses off his fans eventually.
JeffWeaverFan
05-16-06, 06:33 PM
I remember hearing somewhere that Gary Sheffield took 4.5 million less to play for the Yankees when he signed.
Was wondering if anyone would be able to give me some information about this or provide me with a link to him saying it.
He said he made commpensations to come to the Yankees and that he should be rewarded for it. Did he really take 4.5 million less?
In a word, no.
Sheff agreed to a contract in which $4.5 million per year was deferred. So he still gets $13 million per year, but $13.5 million of the overall contract gets paid to him later on.
After he verbally agreed to the deal that he made with George over lunch or dinner, he backed out saying he wanted to get interest on that money, or not defer money all together. When he said that, Cashman decided to move along and try to get Vladamir Guerrero. I believe Cash had a deal set in place with Vlad but Sheff then decided to agree to the original deal that he agreed to.
Last year he talked about making compensations to come to the Yankees and talked about that $4.5 million. In reality, no other team was offering him as much as the Yankees or else he would have used that as leverage. At least it wasn't reported that any other team was offering as much as we were.
It should also be noted that Sheff did not have an agent (still doesn't I don't think) and only had some lawyers, which costs him a fraction of what an agent does. I remember reading an article about him later where he talked about not needing agents because they just take extra money... Well, maybe that's the reason he deferred that money and also didn't get a no-trade clause. And, this all came up when there was a rumor that we were going to trade him for Mike Cameron and Victor Diaz.
GimeMoMuny
05-17-06, 02:46 AM
http://www.nypost.com/sports/yankees/66126.htm
Gary Sheffield will eligible to come off the DL and play Sunday night at Shea Stadium.
"I don't think he will be back by Sunday," Joe Torre said.
It hasn't been decided whether Sheffield will go to Tampa for the final part of his rehab. Playing into the decision is Sheffield's wife, who is in the final month of pregnancy in Tampa.
I thought $heffield was already staging a "sit out".
goin for 27
05-20-06, 07:40 AM
We could really use Sheff back. I found this on NYTimes.com....
Sheffield's hand specialist cleared him to begin baseball activities yesterday, but Sheffield's first attempt at hitting off a tee did not go well. He felt discomfort and cut short a practice session, retreating to the trainer's room to ice his wrist.
Sheffield, who was placed on the disabled list last Tuesday and has not spoken with reporters in 12 days, was not available for comment. But Torre confirmed the setback after the game.
"He took 10 swings and he was sore," Torre said. "We'll know more tomorrow."
Torre had said before the game that Sheffield might take batting practice today, but that almost certainly will not happen now. Sheffield has not played for the Yankees since May 6, a few days after he toppled to the ground in a collision with Toronto first baseman Shea Hillenbrand. Sheffield sustained a contusion and sprain of his left wrist and hand.
Full article here....
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/20/sports/baseball/20pins.html
First I heard of this. I hope Sheff can get moving soon.....
moose antlers
05-20-06, 07:52 AM
I am really disapointed that Sheff cant speed up his recovery since the team really needs him right now. He has had 2 MRIs and he went out and took swings right after the second so too much cant be wrong. That he is still planning to stay on the bench after his 15 days are up worry me into thinking there is some monkey business going on. He should see that the team really needs him back after this weekend.
Other question.. why dont we just pick up his option?? He's an awesome hitter and is worth the money I think.
I am really disapointed that Sheff cant speed up his recovery since the team really needs him right now. He has had 2 MRIs and he went out and took swings right after the second so too much cant be wrong. That he is still planning to stay on the bench after his 15 days are up worry me into thinking there is some monkey business going on. He should see that the team really needs him back after this weekend.
Other question.. why dont we just pick up his option?? He's an awesome hitter and is worth the money I think.
Will Carroll at BP has mentioned a fdew times that he has refused to take a cortisone shot. He seems to think that that would claer up his pain very quickly and allow him to get back much faster.
Witht eh comments sheff has made- not wanting to play through pain- etc, why should he be rewarded with an extension now??
noneckwilliams
05-20-06, 09:21 AM
I thought $heffield was already staging a "sit out".
Take your trolling back to the RS thread.
Take your trolling back to the RS thread.
At this point I can't really call what he is stating trolling, because I am beginning to absolutely believe it is true.
Workhorse
05-20-06, 02:48 PM
Will Carroll at BP has mentioned a fdew times that he has refused to take a cortisone shot. He seems to think that that would claer up his pain very quickly and allow him to get back much faster.
Witht eh comments sheff has made- not wanting to play through pain- etc, why should he be rewarded with an extension now??
It does seem strange that Sheff is suddenly afraid of the long term implications of another cortisone shot. Especially given his BALCO affiliations in the past.
noneckwilliams
05-20-06, 04:26 PM
At this point I can't really call what he is stating trolling, because I am beginning to absolutely believe it is true.
This is just a RS fan trying to stir up some .................
So you're saying that he's 100% right now and just sitting out for the hell of it? What evidence do you have of that? He's not even off the DL yet. He couldn't play if even he were healthy.
This is just media speclution about "Big Bad Ole Shef" - you know, the guy with the "attitude problem". He's made no statements at all about it.
He was on the bench today. If he's not planning on playing again this season why not just go to Bermuda and soak up the sun?
Tell me - what does Shef gain by sitting out the rest of the season if he's not hurt? Who's gonna give him contract then? Answer - No One.
GimeMoMuny
05-20-06, 04:28 PM
It does seem strange that Sheff is suddenly afraid of the long term implications of another cortisone shot. Especially given his BALCO affiliations in the past.Please.
DougiesChickenParm
05-20-06, 04:31 PM
It seems a bit irresponsible to call out Sheff right now. People wanted to call out Pavano and look what just happened to him. The guys hurt and has every right to wait until he's 100% before coming back.
The Yanks appear to be playing pretty good right now. Who's that Melky guy everyone keeps beating on?
SheffRocks11
05-20-06, 05:07 PM
This is just a RS fan trying to stir up some .................
So you're saying that he's 100% right now and just sitting out for the hell of it? What evidence do you have of that? He's not even off the DL yet. He couldn't play if even he were healthy.
This is just media speclution about "Big Bad Ole Shef" - you know, the guy with the "attitude problem". He's made no statements at all about it.
He was on the bench today. If he's not planning on playing again this season why not just go to Bermuda and soak up the sun?
Tell me - what does Shef gain by sitting out the rest of the season if he's not hurt? Who's gonna give him contract then? Answer - No One.
well put.
SheffRocks11
05-20-06, 05:09 PM
It seems a bit irresponsible to call out Sheff right now. People wanted to call out Pavano and look what just happened to him. The guys hurt and has every right to wait until he's 100% before coming back.
The Yanks appear to be playing pretty good right now. Who's that Melky guy everyone keeps beating on?
I wouldn't call todays win a "good win". We had FOUR errors...
but as long as its a win I'm not complainin. :)
keithf1
05-20-06, 05:11 PM
He has always played hurt. If he ain't playing, it's gotta be somewhat serious.
noneckwilliams
05-20-06, 05:52 PM
He has always played hurt. If he ain't playing, it's gotta be somewhat serious.
Say what you want about Shef, but since he's been here he's always played thru injuries - and that includes this one.
Do people not recall that he actually played in 2 games (May 4-5, 1-2 2 runs vs TB and 0-5 v Tex) AFTER he got hurt v Toronto.
If it was his big bad agenda to use the injury to hold his breath until they exercised his option why bother to come back when he did?
No one seems to be discussing the fact that he obviously tried to come back too soon from this injury. I don't know the circumstances but it's possible he felt he was pushed to get back in the lineup before he was ready.
Romeo the Yankee
05-20-06, 06:27 PM
With the recent news concerning Sheff I am starting to feel he is playing us.:dunno:
PittsburghYankeeFan
05-20-06, 06:29 PM
He played with a bad shoulder most of 2005, and it really hurt him in September. Look, the guy is what, 37? Give him a break.
He should not come back until he can help the club.
Considering now how bad that the Yankees need Sheff, does everyone expect him to come back from the DL once he is eligible to be activated. Or, will he baby his wrist because he is in the final year of his contract? Buster Onley talks about this in his blog and that the Yanks need to decide if they can rely on Sheff or is he going to "become Shut-Down Sheff and decide he isn't going to be invested in the 2006 Yankees because he doesn't have a contract for 2007, then they definitely need a proven bat."
Why would he become "Shut Down Sheff?" If he doesn't have a contract for next year, this is his walk year. When he is healthy he will produce.
Yankees1962
05-22-06, 04:45 AM
With the recent news concerning Sheff I am starting to feel he is playing us.:dunno:
No, he's being Sheffield who's emotions and thoughts not only shift from day to day, but can also happen within the same day as what occurred during his problem with Cashman back at spring training.
http://www.nypost.com/sports/yankees/66392.htm
http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20060527&content_id=1474536&vkey=news_nyy&fext=.jsp&c_id=nyy
05/27/2006 10:44 PM ET
Sheffield plans to play two more years
Veteran trying to enjoy remaining seasons in the game
rpbri2886
05-27-06, 11:27 PM
http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20060527&content_id=1474536&vkey=news_nyy&fext=.jsp&c_id=nyy
05/27/2006 10:44 PM ET
Sheffield plans to play two more years
Veteran trying to enjoy remaining seasons in the game
I was just coming to post that article...interesting little blurb. Hopefully he really has turned over a new leaf. While I am a huge Shef fan, I find that to be somewhat doubtful.
I found the last paragraph (where Sheff states how people will remember him) to be slightly humorous.
YanksRooter66
05-29-06, 11:46 AM
sheff is the man... He will be fine. He'll hit a homer into the upperdeck against the sox and then this thread will be all GO SHEFF!!!!!
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