April 5th 2006, Yankees@Atheltics. Season debut for Wang. [Archive] - Page 5

RobbieCano22

04-06-06, 12:09 AM

posado is slower then tino and giambi combined

ZYanksRule

04-06-06, 12:09 AM

oh for god's sake.

flymick24

04-06-06, 12:09 AM

scutaro stole jeter's D

bcom33

04-06-06, 12:10 AM

if Bernie strikes out looking... he will officially no longer be my favorite Yankee

South Facing Epitaph

04-06-06, 12:10 AM

Let's see if Bernie can finish the game with his 4th K.

Kulish29

04-06-06, 12:10 AM

Our 'DH' is up.

nyg02005

04-06-06, 12:10 AM

jeter is playing for the A's.

MTYankee23

04-06-06, 12:10 AM

I wouldn't say we're doomed. I would say that the defense, managing, pitching, and complete lack of depth has already reared its ugly head 3 games in.

bcom33

04-06-06, 12:10 AM

Chavez Is A Pussy!

SubwayFanatic

04-06-06, 12:10 AM

WE'RE DOOMED! Gimme a break people.

I do agree that some of the comments are a bit over-the-top.

However, we're witnessing some pretty scary things go wrong that I am not sure are going to go away this year.

This defense is pretty brutal. And I don't see it getting any better. I worry about how a guy like Wang is going to fair with these fielders behind them.

The offense again appears like it's going to be feast or famine. Maybe this will change over time, but we saw this all last year and are seeing it again this year.

I am not by any means writing off the season. I think the Yankees are one of the handful of teams that can make the playoffs in the AL.

But I am seeing some things that are a bit worrisome.

Voltron87

04-06-06, 12:11 AM

i really like torre, but his pen management is just autrocious. i was ok with bringing wright initially, as it was still pretty early, but after 2 innings, uh you have much better options joe.

there is no reason for proctor to be pitching the 9th in a tie game on the road and wright to be starting a 3rd inning in the 8th with all the options he had. especially given that he put in sturtze AND villone in a 15-1 game.

..... ????

flymick24

04-06-06, 12:11 AM

Our 'DH' is up.

yeah, Dreadful Hitter

ICEBERG18

04-06-06, 12:11 AM

True, our defense lost us the game tonight. Torre finished it off.

Are you saying the Yankees shot the A's in the chest, but didn't kill them, and Torre heard them still breathing and came in with a Bazooka and finished the job? ;)

bcom33

04-06-06, 12:11 AM

Bernie is killing me, do Not strike out looking...

JeffWeaverFan

04-06-06, 12:11 AM

I wouldn't say we're doomed. I would say that the defense, managing, pitching, and complete lack of depth has already reared its ugly head 3 games in.
I would agree with that.

ZYanksRule

04-06-06, 12:11 AM

time to go get the Halos

bcom33

04-06-06, 12:12 AM

night everybody. That was sufficiently horrible

English Yankee

04-06-06, 12:12 AM

OK never mind. Bring on the Angels.

RobbieCano22

04-06-06, 12:12 AM

i will take a 3-3 recod leaving the west coast, lets go take 2 from the gaylos

puckmaster87

04-06-06, 12:12 AM

Defense lost the game tonight.

donniesrecordholdsup

04-06-06, 12:12 AM

Good night. God rest Torre's soul dealing with the writers.
they didnt criticize him when he blew a 3-0 lead. what makes you think theyll start now ?? hes bulletproof

JeffWeaverFan

04-06-06, 12:13 AM

yeah, Dreadful Hitter
Some of us wanted to sign Frank Thomas. (Although, in all honesty, I don't remember if I was completely on that bandwagon).

ICEBERG18

04-06-06, 12:13 AM

That lineup has to go.

yankees27

04-06-06, 12:13 AM

That was horrific.

mrbawm

04-06-06, 12:13 AM

i really like torre, but his pen management is just autrocious. i was ok with bringing wright initially, as it was still pretty early, but after 2 innings, uh you have much better options joe.

there is no reason for proctor to be pitching the 9th in a tie game on the road and wright to be starting a 3rd inning in the 8th with all the options he had. especially given that he put in sturtze AND villone in a 15-1 game.

..... ????

Sturtze is not much better. This pen is no great shakes without Farnsworth being really good.

JeffWeaverFan

04-06-06, 12:14 AM

they didnt criticize him when he blew a 3-0 lead. what makes you think theyll start now ?? hes bulletproof
Yep. And when someone does question him, he just stops doing their show. He no longer does the YES postgame because he thought that the legit questions were coming from Steinbrenner. I also heard he no longer does Kay's show because he doesn't like how he calls him out on him decisions.

MTYankee23

04-06-06, 12:14 AM

I saw earlier in the thread that someone likes Joe, but thinks he manages the bullpen poorly. Isn't that really the #1 in game facet of a manager, ESPECIALLY of the Yankees, who basically have a static 1-9? If you don't like his bullpen management, you don't like him as a manager. Because he's not really doing anything else. Except for keeping all of the "personalities" in check.

m_sisca

04-06-06, 12:15 AM

i really hope this isnt a repeat of last season. youd think george would get some good pitchers in the offseason instead of the ones from the cutout bin. not impressed with pitching at all, and the defense leaves alot to be desired. God i love the Yankees but theyre playing like .................

Kulish29

04-06-06, 12:15 AM

I'm going to be at Saturday's and Sunday's games in Anaheim. They better suck it up and play a hell of a lot better.

JeffWeaverFan

04-06-06, 12:15 AM

That lineup has to go.
2 games in a row where it showed. I mean, it's no surprise. The exact same problem will happen in every close game.

JeffWeaverFan

04-06-06, 12:16 AM

I can't wait to watch ultra small ball vs. the Angels as Torre always does.

ICEBERG18

04-06-06, 12:16 AM

Our Prospects start playing today.

MTYankee23

04-06-06, 12:16 AM

Yep. And when someone does question him, he just stops doing their show. He no longer does the YES postgame because he thought that the legit questions were coming from Steinbrenner. I also heard he no longer does Kay's show because he doesn't like how he calls him out on him decisions.

I just wish it were someone brighter than Kay asking the tough questions. It would mean a lot more if someone pointed out to Joe in their questioning that you want your best pitcher pitching in the late innings tied on the road, not saving them for when you have a lead.

Kulish29

04-06-06, 12:17 AM

That lineup has to go.

You think Torre can now see that batting Damon and Cano 1 and 9 is utterly retarded?

I sure hope so.

SubwayFanatic

04-06-06, 12:18 AM

There is zero reason to panic. There is zero reason to look at this team's flaws.

Because, if you do so, you will just be met with sarcastic comments like, "We're doomed!" for the 54,545 time.

Also, even if this team starts off slowly and plays like complete horse ................, there is also no need to look at its flaws because it will just be parroted that "They started off 11-19 last year."

nyg02005

04-06-06, 12:21 AM

Torre excuses last game: possible double header, will not use RP on consecutive days.

This game: not a double header, he used RP on consecutive days.

For once, pls be consistent.

nyg02005

04-06-06, 12:22 AM

Our Prospects start playing today.

I hope their manager is better.

indianyanksfan

04-06-06, 12:24 AM

There is zero reason to panic. There is zero reason to look at this team's flaws.

Because, if you do so, you will just be met with sarcastic comments like, "We're doomed!" for the 54,545 time.

Also, even if this team starts off slowly and plays like complete horse ................, there is also no need to look at its flaws because it will just be parroted that "They started off 11-19 last year."

i agree wtih u. this team if it gets off to another slow start cannot repeat last year.

they need a good quick start. and torre's killing that.:mad:

Voltron87

04-06-06, 12:27 AM

Sturtze is not much better. This pen is no great shakes without Farnsworth being really good.

I agree that without farnsworth being really good and without dotel the pen is in rough shape, but IMO wright is just autrocious. when we needed someone to go in the 6th i was ok with it, but in the 8th after wright has already pitched 2 it is time for someone else.

i am probably overreacting to torre because of last night, but I still think he handled the pen wrong.

I am not a doomsayer at all though. I am really unhappy with how the last two games worked out, of course, but I still have high hopes for the season. Some things didnt go our way, we made some bad errors, it is not like this is all the pens fault, given we made 3 really bad errors, but they are things which can be worked out.

so i am not predicting doom and gloom at all, but these couple of games did suck.

161 and River Ave.

04-06-06, 12:32 AM

This is all Joe Torre's fault

(sarcasm)

ZYanksRule

04-06-06, 12:34 AM

I just wish it were someone brighter than Kay asking the tough questions. It would mean a lot more if someone pointed out to Joe in their questioning that you want your best pitcher pitching in the late innings tied on the road, not saving them for when you have a lead.

If you bring Mo into every tie game in the 9th on the road, you're gonna wear him out.

Baseball is a marathon, you can't burn out in July, as we saw in Sturtze, that won't work.

I don't love what Joe has done, but I can understand it. Tonight, Wright was pitching GREAT. I mean, no one was getting anything off him, so why take him out. I understand why, but you shouldn't take a guy out because "he's due" to start sucking. That's no way to manage a baseball team.

ManilaYankee

04-06-06, 02:28 PM

Bad pitching... Silenced bats...

Markus

04-07-06, 11:26 PM

LET"S DO IT!!!! Damn. 1-2.

Markus

04-07-06, 11:26 PM

Let"s Do It!!!!

Markus

04-07-06, 11:27 PM

oops. Double post.