View Full Version : Cablevision strikes a deal with SportsNet New York
TheScooter
02-26-06, 07:07 PM
Cablevision kept YES off their cable system for the entire 2002 season but the Dolans agreed to add Fred Wilpon's Comcast/Time Warner SportNet New York channel without missing even one spring training game
Cablevision Systems Corp., the New York-area's No. 1 cable television operator, reached agreement to carry the network that shows Mets baseball games, people familiar with the negotiations said.
The accord between Bethpage, New York-based Cablevision and SportsNet New York ensures that the company's 3 million customers will be able to see the Mets when they open the season April 3 against the Washington Nationals.
The agreement allows the sides to avoid a pricing standoff like the one in 2002 between Cablevision and Yankees Entertainment & Sports Network, which shows baseball's Yankees
Cablevision and the YES Network staged a two-year battle over pricing. The dispute kept the Yankees from being seen by Cablevision's customers during the 2002 season.
Their differences were settled by an arbitration panel, which ruled Cablevision had to carry YES as part of its basic service, meaning all of the company's customers had to pay for it whether or not they wanted to watch the Yankees. Cablevision wanted YES placed on a digital tier, meaning only those who wanted it would pay for it.
``Cablevision got burned last time,'' says former CBS Sports President Neal Pilson, who is now an industry consultant. ``It left a bad taste in everyone's mouth.
The agreement benefits both SportsNet New York, which can charge advertisers more because it reaches more people, and Cablevision, which won't lose any Mets fans to satellite or other cable operators
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000103&sid=aJebLE_8zq_I&refer=us
BBombers85
02-26-06, 07:44 PM
Thats great news for Mets fans. I didnt get the YES Network till last season when I finally got Time Warner Cable. I had Dish Network before that and they are total SOBs. They like sports about as much as Giuliani likes the Red Sox.
That's because Time Warner could reciprocate and keep Cablevision programming off their systems. This network has a lot more leverage than the Yes network had when it started up.
Is DirecTV going to have SNY?
hellonewman
03-01-06, 12:21 AM
Good news. I wonder what sort of other programming this network will have besides Met games... Metography? Mets Classics? CenterStage with Fran Healy?
effdamets
03-01-06, 07:43 AM
Good news. I wonder what sort of other programming this network will have besides Met games... Metography? Mets Classics? CenterStage with Fran Healy?
Met Classics?
Chesbro41
03-01-06, 07:55 AM
I would guess the reason they added it so quick is to make sure what happened a couple years ago doesn't happen again. When they refused to add YES, many Yankee fans when to satelite and dropped Cablevision.
effdamets
03-01-06, 08:23 AM
I would guess the reason they added it so quick is to make sure what happened a couple years ago doesn't happen again. When they refused to add YES, many Yankee fans when to satelite and dropped Cablevision.
I think it has to a little more to do with Time Warner's hand in the deal.
Isn't SNY charging more than YES per subscriber?
nyyanksfan20
03-01-06, 08:27 AM
So what is MSG and FSNY going to do when baseball season is in full swing and both hockey and basketball are over?
TheScooter
03-01-06, 09:05 AM
I think it has to a little more to do with Time Warner's hand in the deal.
Isn't SNY charging more than YES per subscriber?
Actually YES wanted higher fees
There are two reasons for this. The first is SNY is likely being priced lower than YES was. YES was asking between $2 and $2.25 per month per subscriber, while SNY likely is being priced between $1.60-$1.75 per subscriber per month
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/story/395119p-334982c.html
TheScooter
03-01-06, 09:08 AM
Good news. I wonder what sort of other programming this network will have besides Met games... Metography? Mets Classics? CenterStage with Fran Healy?
Sportsnet New York has a deal with the Jets for Jets programming(interviews with Eric Mangini and the players)etc
Fran Healy stayed at MSG.Healy is close friends with the Dolans
TheScooter
03-01-06, 09:11 AM
So what is MSG and FSNY going to do when baseball season is in full swing and both hockey and basketball are over?
What will the Mets network show between October-April?
At least YES has the Nets and Mike and the Mad Dog
Dolan has the Islanders and Devils locked up to long term deals for MSG and FSNY
4 sports networks in one market
TheScooter
03-01-06, 09:17 AM
"Cablevision is concerned that not carrying the Mets will encourage more communities to grant franchises to Verizon and that not carrying the team would redound to the benefit of DirecTV and EchoStar," said John Mansell, an analyst with Kagan World Media.
http://www.nj.com/business/ledger/index.ssf?/base/business-0/1141107675298110.xml&coll=1
YankClipper5
03-01-06, 10:29 AM
Met Classics?
I don't think he meant to pluralize classic.
SI Baseballman
03-01-06, 11:11 AM
What will the Mets network show between October-April?
College Hoops, lots of it. They'll have over a 100 games, including a lot of Big East. It'll hopefully work out so that they don't have to broadcast the same game from last July every night (so how many times is A-Rod going to homer off of Schilling?). Eventually I think either the Devils or Islanders will end up on the network.
I don't think he meant to pluralize classic.
Well hopefully this network will air more than the same 3 games all the time.
bleachersown
03-01-06, 11:45 AM
Met Classics?
Yea, classic Armando Benitez blowups.
TheScooter
03-01-06, 11:48 AM
College Hoops, lots of it. They'll have over a 100 games, including a lot of Big East. It'll hopefully work out so that they don't have to broadcast the same game from last July every night (so how many times is A-Rod going to homer off of Schilling?). Eventually I think either the Devils or Islanders will end up on the network
I wouldn't count on the Devils or Islanders ending up on the Mets network
The Devils signed a 20 year deal with MSG networks which ends after the 2023-24 season
MSG Networks and the New Jersey Devils today announced that they have signed a 20-year rights agreement. The agreement will take effect immediately and will ensure that New Jersey Devils games will be seen on FSN New York through the 2023-2024 season.The financial terms of the agreement were not announced
http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/11-08-2004/0002397516&EDATE=
MSG/Cablevision has a long term deal with the Islanders.The Dolans are best friends with Charles Wang.Fred Coupon is not one of Wang's favorite people these days by submitting his own plan for the Nassau Coliseum site which forced Wang to alter his plans
College basketball?Please
mjdlight
03-01-06, 12:05 PM
College Hoops, lots of it. They'll have over a 100 games, including a lot of Big East. It'll hopefully work out so that they don't have to broadcast the same game from last July every night (so how many times is A-Rod going to homer off of Schilling?). Eventually I think either the Devils or Islanders will end up on the network.
Well hopefully this network will air more than the same 3 games all the time.
You will get repeats of games in the off-season. I guarentee it.
And as others have mentioned, the Devils and Islanders are not realistic options for the forseeable future. The Dolans need to keep MSG and FSNY viable, and that's why they put the stranglehold on the Devils with a 20 year deal.
webassign
03-01-06, 01:36 PM
"Cablevision is concerned that not carrying the Mets will encourage more communities to grant franchises to Verizon and that not carrying the team would redound to the benefit of DirecTV and EchoStar," said John Mansell, an analyst with Kagan World Media.
http://www.nj.com/business/ledger/index.ssf?/base/business-0/1141107675298110.xml&coll=1
Bummer. I already have Verizon fiberoptic internet and telephone and I am ready to switch from Cablevision to Verizon TV. The deal with the franchises is a real pain for the consumer. :(
does anyone know if comcast is getting this channel? (I hate comcast, but its what the parents got)
T:P 24
TheScooter
03-01-06, 01:48 PM
does anyone know if comcast is getting this channel? (I hate comcast, but its what the parents got)
T:P 24
Comcast and Time Warner were on board from the beginning.Both companies are partners with Wilpon in the venture
It's called Sportsnet New York
All of the Comcast sports networks are Comcast Sportsnet-Philadelphia,Chicago,Baltimore,etc
CVC,Comcast and TMW will carry the channel.DIRECTV is still pending.DISH Network?Good luck.They don't even carry YES
AMYanks
03-01-06, 02:15 PM
SNY will also be the "broadcast home of the Jets", so they'll have a lot of shows dedicated to them from October-April.
"Met Classics?"
We shouldn't talk. TheYes network puts some game against the Pirates in June on and calls it a Yankee classic. Besides they've already said they are in no way going to model themselves after the Yes network.
hellonewman
03-01-06, 07:43 PM
Sportsnet New York has a deal with the Jets for Jets programming(interviews with Eric Mangini and the players)etcSo, 16 weeks of, "Are you still satisfied with the effort despite the loss?" Swell.
College Hoops, lots of it.Talk about a loss leader :lol: :lol: I think test patterns draw higher ratings than college basketball.
Sounds like a lot of air time for the 10-pound Oreck Excel and the Jack LaLanne Juicer.
"Met Classics?"
We shouldn't talk. TheYes network puts some game against the Pirates in June on and calls it a Yankee classic. Besides they've already said they are in no way going to model themselves after the Yes network.
Yeah, but that was the game Giambi became Giambi again, and the team came back against a closer who surprisingly was automatic up till then.
Meanwhile Mets classics will probably just be that Koo double on loop for two hours.
SI Baseballman
03-01-06, 09:02 PM
Well there are a lot of fine games from the 1986 and '88 season, plus some memorable games against the Yankees.
Dave Mlicki
Matt Franco
Piazza vs Clemens (games before the beaning)
'99/'00 Playoffs
Off the top of my head, I could name about 15 games that qualify which is probably about the same amount YES shuffles through for the Yankees.
YES should air so many more games for Yankees Classics. But they dont. And like the last 2 years, the only new Yankees Classics were played either this season or last. They could provide a much better variety.
AndThenThereWasTino
03-01-06, 09:56 PM
Well there are a lot of fine games from the 1986 and '88 season, plus some memorable games against the Yankees.
Dave Mlicki
Matt Franco
Piazza vs Clemens (games before the beaning)
'99/'00 Playoffs
Off the top of my head, I could name about 15 games that qualify which is probably about the same amount YES shuffles through for the Yankees.
It may be the same amount of games YES shuffles through, however YES has a lot more Yankees Classics to pick out then the new station will have of great Mets triumphs.
sharoncass
03-02-06, 08:10 AM
So, 16 weeks of, "Are you still satisfied with the effort despite the loss?" Swell.
Talk about a loss leader :lol: :lol: I think test patterns draw higher ratings than college basketball.
Sounds like a lot of air time for the 10-pound Oreck Excel and the Jack LaLanne Juicer.
LOL!!! I know I'll be watching.....not!!!:snooze:
NYJets37
03-02-06, 12:05 PM
Are we going to have to pay extra or have digital cable to get it? Or will everyone be getting it?
hellonewman
03-17-06, 07:22 PM
So was a deal ever signed? SNY supposedly went on the air yesterday. I'm on a Crapplevision system and I'm not getting it. :dunno:
ZYanksRule
03-18-06, 12:28 AM
So was a deal ever signed? SNY supposedly went on the air yesterday. I'm on a Crapplevision system and I'm not getting it. :dunno:
Nope, they haven't actually signed it yet, they are "hopeful" however.
Panamaniac42
03-18-06, 01:39 AM
Well at least the contingent of Mets fans who rolled their eyes at the Yankee lovefest that is YES have no more to say.
If what SI says about college bball is true that's cool. I'd love to see local college bball especially. Rutgers got a handful of YES & MSG appearances (though it's understandable being that they are not a powerhouse), but next year with Quincy Douby coming back and some top recruits possibly coming in hopefully I can see as much as possible when I can't make the games in person. Also, Hofstra, Iona, Seton Hall had successful years, and St. John's is on the rise (though do they have a deal with MSG Network??).
EDIT: Just realized I missed that SI said they'll have a lot of Big East. If true, even better...best conference in the nation...sweet.
Stupid Flanders
03-18-06, 02:39 AM
why is this is "Yankees Out Of Play"?
hardrain
03-18-06, 01:37 PM
Good for the Mets, let their fans have fun watching their games. Having cablevision, I remember that Yankee-less year and it was major suckitude.
hellonewman
03-18-06, 02:11 PM
Nope, they haven't actually signed it yet, they are "hopeful" however.See ya in 2007 when Governor Spitzer puts the screws to Crapplevision, SNY. :( :mad:
knickfan23
03-18-06, 04:10 PM
YES should air so many more games for Yankees Classics. But they dont. And like the last 2 years, the only new Yankees Classics were played either this season or last. They could provide a much better variety.
You mean to tell me you dont like that Pirates vs. Yankees version of Yankees Classics?
Cmon.
And how many more times do I have to see the Yanks-Mets game from 2002 where Ventura hits the HR. That game was never a classic to begin with.
The 3 games from the last 10 years that they havent shown on Classics would be the following. (in no particular order)
1. Game 4 - 98 LCS - Yankees vs. Indians
-Lot of drama going into this game. The Yanks had steamrolled through the season and had a 1-0 lead over the Indians. Then, shockingly lost Game 2 and were blown out in Game 3. I was so nervous going into that game, but El Duque began to earn his rep as a postseason legend with this game.
2. Game 5 - 00 ALDS - Yankees vs. Athletics
-The Yanks had to fly 3,000 miles back to Oakland after being pounded in Game 4. They jump out to 5 (or 6) runs in the first inning and have to hold on for dear life the rest of the way. Pettitte had nothing and Stanton was the hero with 3 big inning. Chavez pops out to Tino as the team runs out of the dugout in celebration.
3. Game 4 - 00 LCS - Yankees vs. Mariners
-Roger Clemens strikes out 15 Seattle hitters en route to a one hit, complete game shutout. Enough said. Arguably the most dominant pitching performance in a playoff game in the last 20 years.
Its hard to watch regular season games as classics. Simply stick with the playoff games. Its not like there arent many to choose from.
And how many more times do I have to see the Yanks-Mets game from 2002 where Ventura hits the HR. That game was never a classic to begin with.
What, you don't like watching Steve Traschel take 5 minutes to throw consecutive pitches? All kidding aside, I glad the Yankees won that game, but that game was agonizingly slow.
PeteRFNY
03-18-06, 11:17 PM
I read in the paper that the opening night Spring Training game on Thursday for SportsNet NY was a debacle, with lost audio, lost video, lost audio AND video, misspelled player's names on the graphics and o so much more.
Anyone actually SEE that?
SI Baseballman
03-19-06, 12:21 AM
I read in the paper that the opening night Spring Training game on Thursday for SportsNet NY was a debacle, with lost audio, lost video, lost audio AND video, misspelled player's names on the graphics and o so much more.
Anyone actually SEE that?
Yeah I saw it. It was no worse than the YES debut 4 years ago. They had a blackout problem yesterday, but everything seemed to be going smoothly today.
The Q Bomb
03-19-06, 05:14 PM
Good news. I wonder what sort of other programming this network will have besides Met games... Metography? Mets Classics? CenterStage with Fran Healy?
That sounds about right as I'm sure The Mets will stick to their policy of copying everything The Yankees do. If The Yankees put flypaper on their helmets on Monday, The Mets would do it on Tuesday! I can't stand The Mets!
NYJets37
03-19-06, 06:14 PM
You mean to tell me you dont like that Pirates vs. Yankees version of Yankees Classics?
Cmon.
And how many more times do I have to see the Yanks-Mets game from 2002 where Ventura hits the HR. That game was never a classic to begin with.
The 3 games from the last 10 years that they havent shown on Classics would be the following. (in no particular order)
1. Game 4 - 98 LCS - Yankees vs. Indians
-Lot of drama going into this game. The Yanks had steamrolled through the season and had a 1-0 lead over the Indians. Then, shockingly lost Game 2 and were blown out in Game 3. I was so nervous going into that game, but El Duque began to earn his rep as a postseason legend with this game.
2. Game 5 - 00 ALDS - Yankees vs. Athletics
-The Yanks had to fly 3,000 miles back to Oakland after being pounded in Game 4. They jump out to 5 (or 6) runs in the first inning and have to hold on for dear life the rest of the way. Pettitte had nothing and Stanton was the hero with 3 big inning. Chavez pops out to Tino as the team runs out of the dugout in celebration.
3. Game 4 - 00 LCS - Yankees vs. Mariners
-Roger Clemens strikes out 15 Seattle hitters en route to a one hit, complete game shutout. Enough said. Arguably the most dominant pitching performance in a playoff game in the last 20 years.
Its hard to watch regular season games as classics. Simply stick with the playoff games. Its not like there arent many to choose from.
Yea, I agree.
Only regular season games they should have are the perfect games, and maybe the Yankees-Sox game that Jeter dove into the crowd. The worst is when they show Yankees-Angels last year because A-Rod had a huge game. Why would anyone want to watch it again, the only part worth watching was A-Rod's at bats.
While I agree the ARod Angels game is a little much I like seeing random exciting regular season games (like the Pirates game and the Padres games). What Id love to see on Yankees Classics are more older games (from the 50s and 60s). I am far too young to have seen Mantle play but I would love to see it.
TheScooter
03-20-06, 09:02 AM
Only Comcast and TMW subscribers currently receive Sports Net New York.The Cablevision deal was not completed last week.No DIRECTV
PeteRFNY
03-20-06, 10:33 AM
Yeah I saw it. It was no worse than the YES debut 4 years ago.
You mean the game that looked like it was coming from Mars? ;)
ZYanksRule
03-24-06, 12:18 AM
http://www.sny.tv/article.jsp?content=pr20060323
OK, now Sportsnet and Cablevision REALLY reached a deal.
I'm happy to see that, I've been watching the channel a little bit up here at QU, it's been pretty decent.
Channel 60 for most of us.
PonytailAtHome
03-24-06, 04:19 AM
I was absolutely shocked when I first heard the news that Cablevision carries SNY... It was just about six hours ago that my jaw dropped. :eek: :D
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