Chacon and Small [Are they signed]?? [Archive]

AJW

01-03-06, 08:49 PM

First excuse me if this has been posted already but I have searched and have not found a thread on this topic.

Aren't Chacon and Small both free agents? If so are the Yankees going to resign them? Perhaps I misread somewhere else that they were both free agents and they really aren't?

Enlighten me. Thanks in advance.

YankeePride1967

01-03-06, 08:52 PM

AJW

01-03-06, 08:58 PM

No, both are still with the Yanks.

Wow that is good news. I am still confused though. When did they resign with the Yanks?

Shawn Chacon p
1 year/$2.35M (2005), plus $0.25M in incentives

Aaron Small p
2005

contract purchased 7/05
signed as a free agent 10/04 (minor-league contract)

puckmaster87

01-03-06, 09:01 PM

Wow that is good news. I am still confused though. When did they resign with the Yanks?

Shawn Chacon p
1 year/$2.35M (2005), plus $0.25M in incentives

Aaron Small p
2005

contract purchased 7/05
signed as a free agent 10/04 (minor-league contract)

They were both arbitration eligible.

ring403

01-03-06, 09:02 PM

http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20051220&content_id=1284960&vkey=news_nyy&fext=.jsp&c_id=nyy

AJW

01-03-06, 09:03 PM

They were both arbitration eligible.

So what you are saying was they went through the arbi process and each have a new 1 year deal with the ballclub?

YankeePride1967

01-03-06, 09:04 PM

So what you are saying was they went through the arbi process and each have a new 1 year deal with the ballclub?

Well, not quite. Hearings are held usually in February. Yanks typically though avoid arbitration. Look for both to sign 1 yr deals before that happens.

AJW

01-03-06, 09:07 PM

Well, not quite. Hearings are held usually in February. Yanks typically though avoid arbitration. Look for both to sign 1 yr deals before that happens.

OK thanks man. Sorry for all the questions.

38Special

01-03-06, 09:08 PM

After 3 years of major league service time, a player has to either be tendered a contract (at least 1 year), go to arbitration, or be non-tendered and become a free agent. Once he reached 6 years of service time, he becomes a free agent.

Arod for President

01-03-06, 10:39 PM

I Predict Chacon to dominate again this year! He will be the Yankees Dark Horse or '04 A. Small if you will ;)

flymick24

01-04-06, 03:24 AM

http://forums.nyyfans.com/showthread.php?t=91943

flymick24

01-07-06, 05:14 AM

The Yankees have not yet begun negotiating with arbitration-eligible pitcher Shawn Chacon, according to his agent. Chacon hasn't filed for arbitration yet but has until Jan. 13. Chacon earned $2.35 million in 2005, which was a $500,000 raise on his '04 salary. He should get a much heftier raise this time after going 7-3 with a 2.85 ERA after coming from Colorado in a midseason trade.

Aaron Small is also arbitration-eligible, and Yankee GM Brian Cashman hopes to negotiate next week with the pair.

http://www.nypost.com/sports/61127.htm

mycroft

01-07-06, 08:59 AM

This is good news, only a matter of time.

rivera,s cutter

01-07-06, 12:13 PM

i hope there yankees next season

ring403

01-07-06, 12:49 PM

i hope there yankees next seasonYou don't have to hope. The Yankees have tendered contracts to both Chacon and Small, which means that they can either come to agreement on a contract, or go before an arbitrator, and have him decide which side's contract proposal will be abided by. Either way, both are the property of the Yankees.

shcabot

01-08-06, 09:01 AM

I am so glad that the Yankees kept Small. (I knew they would keep Chacon.) Small had a fantastic year last year and its great to see that although he is not some big name all-star pitcher, he's coming right back to the Bronx for hopefully another successful year.

ring403

01-17-06, 06:36 AM

http://www.nj.com/yankees/ledger/index.ssf?/base/sports-0/1137479786150210.xml&coll=1
Today is the day for players and teams to submit salary arbitration figures. The Yankees have two players -- pitchers Shawn Chacon and Aaron Small -- eligible for arbitration this year, and they're not likely to sign either before the exchange of figures. Yankees GM Brian Cashman, on vacation this week, said yesterday that he has "had a few conversations but nothing nailed down at this time."

Chacon made $2.35 million last year, and the major-league portion of Small's salary was $500,000 (of which he didn't make 100 percent, since he was in the minors for the season's first few months). Both are likely in for big raises, in light of their contributions to the Yankees' comeback playoff run. Chacon was 7-3 with a 2.85 ERA after the Yankees acquired him from Colorado in late July. Small was a stunning 10-0, 3.20 after his promotion from Triple A.

surge511

01-17-06, 08:10 AM

Both should sign 1- year deals with the team. I can't see Small staying with the Yankees past this season, especially if he has another good year and they don't commit to him. But Chacon, if he proves last year was no fluke, could be signed to a long-term deal and become a mainstay in the rotation.

Mr. Mxylsplk

01-17-06, 09:51 AM

Both should sign 1- year deals with the team. I can't see Small staying with the Yankees past this season, especially if he has another good year and they don't commit to him.
I don't think Small will be a free agent next winter either, so if the yanks want to keep him, I think he'd be here whether he wants to be or not.

Stupid Flanders

01-18-06, 06:30 AM

I'd offer Chacon 3Y/$10M today.

hellonewman

01-24-06, 05:48 PM

Small is signed:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/baseball/mlb/wires/01/24/2010.ap.bba.yankees.small.0214/

Tifoso

01-24-06, 05:49 PM

Small is signed:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/baseball/mlb/wires/01/24/2010.ap.bba.yankees.small.0214/

Great news! Thanks for the post, amico mio. :)

Mr. Mxylsplk

01-24-06, 05:53 PM

Small is signed:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/baseball/mlb/wires/01/24/2010.ap.bba.yankees.small.0214/
Man, that's some raise.

obsessedyankeefan

01-24-06, 05:56 PM

Small is signed:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/baseball/mlb/wires/01/24/2010.ap.bba.yankees.small.0214/
Great news. He deserves every penny of that raise.

hardrain

01-24-06, 06:14 PM

Great news. He deserves every penny of that raise.

Absoultely, he deserves it. Thanks again Aaron!

thecaptain

01-24-06, 06:14 PM

In addition to his base salary, Small could earn $80,000 in performance bonuses: $15,000 each for 15 and 20 starts, and $25,000 each for 25 and 30 starts. He had asked for $1.45 million in arbitration and had been offered $1,025,000. Got a $1.2 million, one-year contract...New York has one player remaining in arbitration. Pitcher Shawn Chacon asked for $4.15 million and was offered $3.1 million.

puckmaster87

01-25-06, 12:58 AM

Very good, they went with a figure right in the middle of the Yankees' offer and Small's proposal. He deserves all of that for saving the Yankees' asses last year.

guidry36

01-25-06, 01:17 AM

I'd offer Chacon 3Y/$10M today.

That isn't a bad idea. Hopefully he will be signed before the hearing, but Chacon did not have the look of a 1-year wonder in 2005. If only a heart transplant could be done from Chacon to Pavano...............

guidry36

01-25-06, 01:19 AM

congrats to Aaron Small after an amazing 2005. I'm looking forward to seeing what he can do in 2006.....long relief...spot starter.....an occasional middle relief appearence when a double play is needed.

MisterNovember

01-25-06, 01:43 AM

I'd offer Chacon 3Y/$10M today.

I doubt Chacon would accept such an offer. He has the makings of a very good pitcher, hopefully he realizes his potential and continues to succeed in 2006.

NYDCYankee

02-08-06, 02:36 AM

Looks like the Yankees are going to arbitration with Chacon.

http://www.nypost.com/sports/yankees/61556.htm

Bub

02-08-06, 07:24 AM

Small is signed:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/baseball/mlb/wires/01/24/2010.ap.bba.yankees.small.0214/ This is good for all involved. If he doesn't continue to pitch well, it's not a huge loss. If he contributes and wins 10 more games it'll be the cheapest wins we get. Very likable guy; I hope he does well. I really like his pace, as I'm sure the fielders do as well.

hellonewman

02-10-06, 04:23 PM

Looks like the Yankees are going to arbitration with Chacon.

http://www.nypost.com/sports/yankees/61556.htmLooks like they worked it out. Chacon is signed for $3.6 million, with another possible $100,000 in incentives:

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/5322196

hardrain

02-10-06, 04:35 PM

Good...I'm glad they avoided the ugly arbitration process.

DontHateOnNumber2

02-10-06, 04:42 PM

Looks like they worked it out. Chacon is signed for $3.6 million, with another possible $100,000 in incentives:

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/5322196

Thank goodness, I didn't want an arbiter to rule on this. Thanks Shawn, and good job Brian. :clap:

kan_t

02-10-06, 07:07 PM

Looks like they worked it out. Chacon is signed for $3.6 million, with another possible $100,000 in incentives:

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/5322196
From the link,

His agreement leaves the Yankees with a projected opening-day payroll of $195 million to $197 million, down about $10 million from their record-setting figure at the end of last season.
I like it.

flymick24

02-10-06, 08:24 PM

'bout time

AndThenThereWasTino

02-11-06, 01:15 AM

Congrats on the raises guys and let's hope to see more of the spectacular stuff you guys showed us last season!

ryanthe13th

02-11-06, 01:28 AM

I hope Chacon puts up stellar numbers this year and the Yankees sign him to a 2-3 year deal.

yanksconstantino24

02-11-06, 10:48 AM

Looks like they worked it out. Chacon is signed for $3.6 million, with another possible $100,000 in incentives:

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/5322196

This is really good news. I think Chacon has a chance to be a great pitcher. He's got great stuff, and it seems like ever since he's been a Yankee, he's had total confidence in it.

BennyTheJetRodriguez

02-11-06, 11:01 AM

So whats Chacon's deal? I thought that since this was his 6th year that he's up for Free Agency, but I've heard that because service time is determined by days in the majors each year and not actual starts that he has one more year before free agency. The person I heard this from could very well be talking out of their ass. Anybody know for sure?

hellonewman

02-11-06, 01:25 PM

BennyTheJetRodriguez

02-11-06, 02:05 PM

He broke in in 2001. 2005 was his 5th year.
I know, making 2006 his 6th year. Thats why i thought he'd a free agent after this year(06) until i heard that he had one more year of arbitration.

BennyTheJetRodriguez

02-11-06, 02:06 PM

Just realized that the way I worded my initial question made it seem like I was talking about 05...my bad

obsessedyankeefan

02-11-06, 04:28 PM

Looks like they worked it out. Chacon is signed for $3.6 million, with another possible $100,000 in incentives:

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/5322196
Great news. Glad they avoided arbitration and here's to a great year for Chacon. :gulp:

Bub

02-12-06, 10:37 AM

Great news. Glad they avoided arbitration and here's to a great year for Chacon. :gulp:I'm betting Chacon's wins will be the cheapest out of all the starters.

gdn

02-12-06, 10:39 AM

I'm betting Chacon's wins will be the cheapest out of all the starters.What do you mean?

Bub

02-12-06, 11:15 AM

What do you mean?Salary divided by wins. We often spend 1 million dollars per win on starters. Chacon can deliver at a third of that price, or less.

gdn

02-12-06, 11:29 AM

Salary divided by wins. We often spend 1 million dollars per win on starters. Chacon can deliver at a third of that price, or less.Oh, I thought you meant that he'd get cheap wins (as in, wins, but not via great pitching).

yanksconstantino24

02-12-06, 03:29 PM

Oh, I thought you meant that he'd get cheap wins (as in, wins, but not via great pitching).

That's what I thought too. I was wondering why since Chacon's wins last season weren't that way at all. He seemed to be the guy that pitched every time the Yankees only score 2 or 3 runs.

gdn

02-12-06, 03:35 PM

That's what I thought too. I was wondering why since Chacon's wins last season weren't that way at all. He seemed to be the guy that pitched every time the Yankees only score 2 or 3 runs.If he can be half as good as he was last year, he'll be very good this year.

yanksconstantino24

02-12-06, 05:44 PM

If he can be half as good as he was last year, he'll be very good this year.

I think Chacon has a chance to be more than just good. Right now, I have more confidence in him than any other Yankee starter. He's got great stuff and I like the way he carries himself out on the mound. He just looks really confident out there.

obsessedyankeefan

02-12-06, 06:00 PM

If he can be half as good as he was last year, he'll be very good this year.
I don't think he'll be good this year. I think he'll be great.

luckiestman

02-12-06, 06:12 PM

he impressed the hell outta me in the post season

gdn

02-12-06, 07:17 PM

I don't think he'll be good this year. I think he'll be great.

I think Chacon has a chance to be more than just good. Right now, I have more confidence in him than any other Yankee starter. He's got great stuff and I like the way he carries himself out on the mound. He just looks really confident out there.I'm just being cautiously optimistic.