View Full Version : Who will see the most ABs at DH in 2006?
Stupid Flanders
01-03-06, 02:43 AM
If you choose other, please specify.
Babe Rules
01-03-06, 06:02 AM
Williams, unfortunately.
Jersey Yankee
01-03-06, 06:14 AM
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Whoops, it was supposed to be as DH.
I pick Jason Giambi.
Bernie. You just know what Torre will do.
RhodyYanksFan
01-03-06, 06:40 AM
Would the Yankees be the first good team that has a DH batting 8th or 9th all year?
keithf1
01-03-06, 06:43 AM
We should all hope it's Gary Sheffield.
Jersey Yankee
01-03-06, 06:51 AM
Would the Yankees be the first good team that has a DH batting 8th or 9th all year?
Geez, leave Bubba Crosby outta this!!! :O
Matsui55
01-03-06, 06:57 AM
As long as Joe is the manager, the answer to this question is easy.
Jersey Yankee
01-03-06, 06:59 AM
As long as Joe is the manager, the answer to this question is easy.
In April, I'll agree. Come June, I think that Bernie will be warming some bench for awhile.
jnewmark
01-03-06, 07:46 AM
I picked Bernie ( if he starts out being productive in that spot ). If otherwise, it will be a platoon in the DH role until somebody steps up.
aeromac76
01-03-06, 08:02 AM
I think it depends on a few things..
One is health of all players involved, right now it looks like Bernie is the everyday DH.
But if we make a deal for someone else, then that could change (i.e., bringing in a Piazza or Frank Thomas to be the DH, and pls understand I am not advocating these moves, just mentioning them as possibilities that could change who gets the DH AB's) .
At this point, I'd select Bernie, but again, that could change
Unfortunately I think it's Bernie :(
I agree with most here that Bernie will be the designated hitter to begin the season.
We all know Bernie traditionally gets off to a slow start in April before he begins to heat up in May (a rare exception was April 2003 when he hit .353). We all know Joe will be patient with him. But no matter how productive he is, or isn't, I don't think Bernie or any slugger-to-be-determined later will or should DH more than 2 or 3 games per week for the Yanks.
I think Torre will/should rotate Giambi and all the outfielders as the DH. I don't think it should matter much who gets the most at-bats at DH.
I wouldn't DH Posada, just ask him for the occasional pinch hit/walk off the bench.
With all the heavy hitters they have, I think the Yanks should stock the rest of the bench with fast, young, defenders.
An interesting question...I think it will depend on what kind of start the team has -- if they have a good April and May, I think Bernie will remain the main DH, regardless of whether he's been productive or not. Torre seems much more tolerant when the club is winning. Even though Williams is historically a slow starter, his (lack of) production will probably be overlooked if the team is scoring runs, the pitching is good, and the W-L record is decent.
If the club starts out slow, or the offense is erratic, or the pitchers are getting lit up, and Bernie is producing at the same rate as he did in 2005, then I look for a move for an everyday DH and Bernie grabs some bench.
Sixty one
01-03-06, 09:36 AM
In Jan. it would have to be Bernie. However, who can predict the future. There could be players on this team that are currently on other teams and one of them could be the DH! ;)
JeffWeaverFan
01-03-06, 09:57 AM
I'm voting with my heart and voting Sheff. I just can't believe that Cash will allow Bernie to be the everyday DH.
keithf1
01-03-06, 10:02 AM
I'm voting with my heart and voting Sheff. I just can't believe that Cash will allow Bernie to be the everyday DH.
I hope not. We need a corner outfielder bad.
shutout
01-03-06, 10:05 AM
Bernie. Quite easy: hopefully Sheffield will play quite some games in the outfield, Giambi will probably play quite some games on 1st... Bernie will be the one with the most AB's as DH.
thecaptain
01-03-06, 10:11 AM
Bernabe Williams Figueroa
Hitman23
01-03-06, 11:32 AM
Might sound crazy, but I hope it's Piazza. He's the perfect fit. Full time DH (which is pretty much going to be his job no matter where he signs) can back up Jorge a few times to give him rest, or for him to DH. If the guy can hit 40 in Shea, catching, he can hit 50+ in YS DHing.
I doubt it'll happen, but he would fit.
iWant27
01-03-06, 11:54 AM
I think the whole point of having a DH is someone who is a great hitter but not so good in defence . Sheff would be an ideal cadidate . He'll be a lot better hitter than he is now if he doesn't have to play the field . He could be Yankees Ortiz . And when Giambi need a rest from the field , he can DH and Sheff can play the field . I just hope its not Bernie .
iWant27
01-03-06, 11:55 AM
Might sound crazy, but I hope it's Piazza. He's the perfect fit. Full time DH (which is pretty much going to be his job no matter where he signs) can back up Jorge a few times to give him rest, or for him to DH. If the guy can hit 40 in Shea, catching, he can hit 50+ in YS DHing.
I doubt it'll happen, but he would fit.
I like this idea of having Piazza as DH , if Sheff can't be everyday DH .
Hitman23
01-03-06, 12:03 PM
I like this idea of having Piazza as DH , if Sheff can't be everyday DH .I like it alot too. Problem is between Bernie, Giambi, and Posada, that spot is taken. He's not going to come cheap either. So I highly doubt it would happen. But, he is a good fit. He's not a good catcher at all, but he can back up when it needs to be done and that makes him more valuable on a part time basis. The guy is a monster when he's on. Not catching is going to make him explode, IMO. And if he's in a hitter's park, forget it.
But it's just not gonna happen.
It should be Sheff, but I too fear it'll be Bernie.
Dooley Womack
01-03-06, 12:32 PM
Bernie. Joe loves him, so he'll see action, but there's no room for him in the OF barring an injury.
surge511
01-03-06, 01:11 PM
Torre will find atbats for Bernie. Until Bernie absolutely can't get a hit, or another allstar comes in, Bernie will be the guy every day. Giambi has to play 1B. There just isn't any other acceptable option, even on a part-time basis.
Iknowcool
01-03-06, 01:18 PM
Piazza COULD hit 40 in Shea as the catcher. Five years ago. He hasn't been able to hit 20 HR there for some time. Thats kind of like saying Bernie could hit .300 in Yankee stadium.
JeterRodriguezSheff
01-03-06, 01:39 PM
The Yankees should trade for Craig Wilson. He is a solid hitter who can play first and the corner OF positions and the Pirates dont like him for whateever reason so he shouldnt be expensive. He would be a perfect fit for this team and take Bernies awful bat out of the line up and let Matsui, Sheff and Giambi all take turns at DH.
Hitman23
01-03-06, 01:40 PM
Piazza COULD hit 40 in Shea as the catcher. Five years ago. He hasn't been able to hit 20 HR there for some time. Thats kind of like saying Bernie could hit .300 in Yankee stadium.You don't know what he could do in a hitter's ballpark not catching. I'm sorry but if you put Piazza in that situation when he hit 40, he would have hit 70. And he's not as burnt out as Bernie is right now.
BTW, I do believe Bernie CAN hit .300 now that he's only going to be hitting. Don't put it past him, he's a very mature, experienced hitter.
SINCE77 2
01-03-06, 02:25 PM
Bernie will do himself proud in the DH spot. There will be no better DH for the money.
JeterRodriguezSheff
01-03-06, 02:27 PM
Bernie will do himself proud in the DH spot. There will be no better DH for the money.
look at his stats last year and picture him a year older. Sure he wont be fielding but that isnt going to make somebody go from awful to good.
Hitman23
01-03-06, 02:31 PM
look at his stats last year and picture him a year older. Sure he wont be fielding but that isnt going to make somebody go from awful to good.Bernie was hurting last year. He was also under the pressure of absolutely sucking defensively. He has piece of mind now. No pressure at all. He's also a borderline HOFer. I'm not saying he's gonna win the triple crown. But I do think he'll be productive. And for his contract, it's a steal.
We'll see. Let's judge him after a half a season first.
Sheff_Rod
01-03-06, 02:38 PM
I want Sheff to be the DH, but I don't see that happening. I would also like for the Yankees to sign Molina (boy, what a crappy offseason he's having) and make Posada the DH, but that seems unlikely now also so I guess Bernie would be the full time DH.
SINCE77 2
01-03-06, 02:45 PM
look at his stats last year and picture him a year older. Sure he wont be fielding but that isnt going to make somebody go from awful to good.
I'm betting that he will have an OBP of .350+, hit 15-20 hrs along with 20-25 2B. His stats only tell me what has happened, not whats going to happen. Without the rigors of playing defense, Bernie will do well offensively.
Hitman23
01-03-06, 02:50 PM
I'm betting that he will have an OBP of .350+, hit 15-20 hrs along with 20-25 2B. His stats only tell me what has happened, not whats going to happen. Without the rigors of playing defense, Bernie will do well offensively.Agreed.
JeterRodriguezSheff
01-03-06, 02:55 PM
I'm betting that he will have an OBP of .350+, hit 15-20 hrs along with 20-25 2B. His stats only tell me what has happened, not whats going to happen. Without the rigors of playing defense, Bernie will do well offensively.
So hes going to increase his obp 30 points by not playing defense? Good one. BTW I dont care about homers by themselves im more concerned about slugging which like everything else last year he was horrible at.
Hitman23
01-03-06, 03:13 PM
So hes going to increase his obp 30 points by not playing defense? no, but playing healthy could do it.
keithf1
01-03-06, 03:30 PM
The Yankees should trade for Craig Wilson. He is a solid hitter who can play first and the corner OF positions and the Pirates dont like him for whateever reason so he shouldnt be expensive. He would be a perfect fit for this team and take Bernies awful bat out of the line up and let Matsui, Sheff and Giambi all take turns at DH.
He would be perfect. I wonder if Cashman is thinking the same thing.
SINCE77 2
01-03-06, 03:30 PM
So hes going to increase his obp 30 points by not playing defense? Good one. BTW I dont care about homers by themselves im more concerned about slugging which like everything else last year he was horrible at.
Are you saying that a rested Bernie can't walk a few extra times and get a few more singles to raise his OBP by 30 points? C'mon, at least give Bernie a bit more respect than that. Let's give Bernie the same chance that we give other less deserving players on this team.
Hitman23
01-03-06, 03:34 PM
Are you saying that a rested Bernie can't walk a few extra times and get a few more singles to raise his OBP by 30 points? C'mon, at least give Bernie a bit more respect than that. Let's give Bernie the same chance that we give other less deserving players on this team.Bernie gets his credit from very few people. Over the years there have always been guys who stood out more and he was not looked at as a premier Yankee. Now that he's in decline, it's easy to jump on him and not treat him like we would have treated, say, O'Neill.
Bernie deserves alot of credit. He's a borderline HOFer who I, and many people feel can contribute to this team in a limited role. The man knows how to hit. let's see if he can continue.
obsessedyankeefan
01-03-06, 03:44 PM
Probably Bernie, just because of Torre's loyalty to him.
SINCE77 2
01-03-06, 03:49 PM
Bernie gets his credit from very few people. Over the years there have always been guys who stood out more and he was not looked at as a premier Yankee. Now that he's in decline, it's easy to jump on him and not treat him like we would have treated, say, O'Neill.
Bernie deserves alot of credit. He's a borderline HOFer who I, and many people feel can contribute to this team in a limited role. The man knows how to hit. let's see if he can continue.
Its a case of the grass always being greener elsewhere to some Yankee fans.
Flatten78
01-03-06, 04:17 PM
sheff has the strongest arm in the outfield and one of the strongest in the game, why does everybody think he cant play RF? you act like he is to blame for all the yankees' problem last yr. i dont think theres nething wrong with bernie being strictly a DH, and nothing more.
SheffRocks11
01-03-06, 04:23 PM
I'd say Bernie.
SheffRocks11
01-03-06, 04:24 PM
sheff has the strongest arm in the outfield and one of the strongest in the game, why does everybody think he cant play RF? you act like he is to blame for all the yankees' problem last yr. i dont think theres nething wrong with bernie being strictly a DH, and nothing more.
He's getting older, and he has leg/shoulder problems. He also isn't very accurate.
silverdsl
01-03-06, 04:49 PM
Might sound crazy, but I hope it's Piazza. He's the perfect fit. Full time DH (which is pretty much going to be his job no matter where he signs) can back up Jorge a few times to give him rest, or for him to DH. If the guy can hit 40 in Shea, catching, he can hit 50+ in YS DHing.
I doubt it'll happen, but he would fit.I think Piazza's best days are behind him and that he won't hit 40 again much less 50 but I do think he still has something left, especially if he won't be catching. So the idea of him as DH has some merit, though he will likely want more money than the Yankees will be willing to offer.
I also agree with the majority that Bernie will see the most time at DH. Torre is going to want to give him every chance at success and he will likely play him even when it makes the fans cringe to see him come up to bat.
-Deborah
sheff has the strongest arm in the outfield and one of the strongest in the game, why does everybody think he cant play RF? you act like he is to blame for all the yankees' problem last yr. i dont think theres nething wrong with bernie being strictly a DH, and nothing more.
A good throwing arm does not make you a good fielder. He was lazy out there at times and is a huge liability in RF. He'd also be more healthy if he was the everyday DH.
keithf1
01-03-06, 06:01 PM
I just don't want to see Sheff get hurt in the field that will in turn affect his hitting. I think he's too injury prone now (although tough as hell) to be playing the field a lot.
lirunner28
01-03-06, 07:02 PM
I looked through the free agents still out there, and theres noone that jumps out at you... piazza probably being the best option with guys like thomas and durazo (all of which have proven the be very injury proned recently), another aging guy is sosa who i personally hate. the fact is the yankees dont need another aging bat in the lineup. id like to see what phillips can do (although hes no exacly a young prospect) i think he has a big upside. he showed me that he can play in this league last season and he deserves a shot. if he doesnt work out we can make a move to before the deadline or try a guy like duncon (i really want to see what all the hype is about)
Stupid Flanders
01-03-06, 08:29 PM
You don't know what he could do in a hitter's ballpark not catching. I'm sorry but if you put Piazza in that situation when he hit 40, he would have hit 70. And he's not as burnt out as Bernie is right now.
BTW, I do believe Bernie CAN hit .300 now that he's only going to be hitting. Don't put it past him, he's a very mature, experienced hitter.
You think Piazza can hit 50 HR and Bernie can hit .300?
I look forward to our fantasy season
JavyVazquezIsSick
01-03-06, 08:39 PM
Piazza has barely been an above average hitter the last two years, (park factor included). We don't need another DH anyway...
bagger015
01-03-06, 09:43 PM
Bernie
Arod for President
01-03-06, 10:36 PM
Its gotta be Bernie.. its just gotta be a switch hitting contact / power hitter THAT TORRE ACTUALLY trusts?!?! yeah its gotta be Bernie :)
I voted Bernie, but I think it will rest on the shoulders of Bubba.....if he has a great spring and comes north, he could begin the year in right with Sheff doing the major DH'ing. We should only hope.
Mattpat11
01-04-06, 08:03 AM
I voted Bernie, but I think it will rest on the shoulders of Bubba.....if he has a great spring and comes north, he could begin the year in right with Sheff doing the major DH'ing. We should only hope.That he doesn't have a great spring?
shutout
01-04-06, 08:03 AM
Yeah I'm not in favour of Bernie being DH. Please get Piazza ;) That won't happen of course: but rather Sheffield DH and Bubba in OF than Bernie DH and Sheff in OF
Hitman23
01-04-06, 08:09 AM
You think Piazza can hit 50 HR and Bernie can hit .300?
I look forward to our fantasy seasonI think both are very mature, experienced players who if healthy have the ability to do that. But don't look forward to me drafting either one. :cool:
shutout
01-04-06, 08:11 AM
I don't think Piazza will hit 50 HR's, nor Bernie an AVG of .300. That's just not realistic man.
Mattpat11
01-04-06, 08:17 AM
Yeah I'm not in favour of Bernie being DH. Please get Piazza ;) That won't happen of course: but rather Sheffield DH and Bubba in OF than Bernie DH and Sheff in OFBernie as DH and Sheff in Right would be ridiculously better than anything involving Bubba Crosby, if only by lesser of two evils.
shutout
01-04-06, 08:20 AM
Bernie as DH and Sheff in Right would be ridiculously better than anything involving Bubba Crosby, if only by lesser of two evils.
Let me start of with saying I'm anything but a Bubba fan. In AAA okay, but in MLB.. nope... Anyway: that I choose him in RF rahter than Bernie DH'ing tells you the trust I've got in Bernie. Bernie just, imo, isn't capable enough anymore. Anyway: I hope he proves me wrong of course.
Hitman23
01-04-06, 08:26 AM
I don't think Piazza will hit 50 HR's, nor Bernie an AVG of .300. That's just not realistic man.They probably won't. I just don't think it's impossible. (btw, I said Piazza could hit that many under the right circumstances, i don't predict him doing so, it was hypothetical based on his days of hitting as many as he did in Shea)
But I'm gonna drop this now. You guys are thinking I'm predicting this and I'm not. i was just saying Piazza in a DH role in Yankee Stadium could be a good fit. And I also think Bernie, for the money he's being paid, will do well also. Let's leave this at that.
Mattpat11
01-04-06, 08:33 AM
Let me start of with saying I'm anything but a Bubba fan. In AAA okay, but in MLB.. nope... Anyway: that I choose him in RF rahter than Bernie DH'ing tells you the trust I've got in Bernie. Bernie just, imo, isn't capable enough anymore. Anyway: I hope he proves me wrong of course. He's not all that good in AAA either.
Personally, if I had to choose between the two, I'd rather milking the former star for whatever he has left than relying on a never was and in all liklihood never will be.
That he doesn't have a great spring?If Bubba doesn't impress greatly this spring, he stays at defensive replacement and pinch runner, putting the heavy DH on Bernie. We're a lot better off if he can hit .275 and steal 20 bases while Sheffield DHs....better defense, easier on Sheff's old body.
Mattpat11
01-04-06, 09:23 AM
If Bubba doesn't impress greatly this spring, he stays at defensive replacement and pinch runner, putting the heavy DH on Bernie. We're a lot better off if he can hit .275 and steal 20 bases while Sheffield DHs....better defense, easier on Sheff's old body. If Bubba could hit .275 and steal 20 bases, he wouldn't be a 30 year old minor leaguer. He's more or less established that he cannot do as much.
DenverYank
01-04-06, 09:28 AM
Williams, unfortunately.
This is what I'd have posted but Babe Rules beat me to it. Let me add: I don't want to see Piazza in a Yankee Uniform.
If Bubba could hit .275 and steal 20 bases, he wouldn't be a 30 year old minor leaguer. He's more or less established that he cannot do as much.I'm not so sure after watching him play this past season. I think he can put up .275/.310/.390 with 25 steals, while playing an excellent RF. I also think we can live with that from our No. 9 hitter.
BronxBombers2005
01-04-06, 10:51 AM
I see Bernie getting it. Untill the season get going, then it might get switched around some. But bernie should get it, he wont be playing the OF, which will take a lot of him and he can just concintrate on hitting the ball. If not him, than bring in Bubba ;)
ryanthe13th
01-04-06, 10:53 AM
Bernie. :\
Mattpat11
01-04-06, 03:11 PM
I'm not so sure after watching him play this past season. I think he can put up .275/.310/.390 with 25 steals, while playing an excellent RF. I also think we can live with that from our No. 9 hitter.98 at bats does not undo 7 years
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