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ieddyi
12-18-05, 07:32 AM
His numbers, except for last year- including his minor league time were excellent

Last year his season was ended by an elbow injury. He has power and as a lefty would be aided by the short porch. His batting v. lefties has improved quite a bit, and he has great plate discipline.

If healthy, might be worth a look as he was non tendered.

WE still need a DH

Stupid Flanders
12-18-05, 07:45 AM
WE still need a DHwe already have enough DHs

What we need is a guy who can play the field so guys like Sheff can get time at DH

Yankees13
12-18-05, 07:58 AM
I don't think he's returning from his injury until June.

ieddyi
12-18-05, 08:08 AM
we already have enough DHs

What we need is a guy who can play the field so guys like Sheff can get time at DH


AS of now, the starting DH looks to be Andy Phillips. Combined w/ Bubba, that's 2 holes in the lineup

NewEraYanks2527
12-18-05, 08:56 AM
We don't need a DH, we need a CFer and more bullpen help. If the Yankees should sign anyone for DH it should be Jacque Jones, not so he can DH but so he can play RF and Sheff can DH more.

Vin
12-18-05, 09:23 AM
We don't need a DH, we need a CFer and more bullpen help. If the Yankees should sign anyone for DH it should be Jacque Jones, not so he can DH but so he can play RF and Sheff can DH more.

So who'll be in CF? Bubba? I'd rather have Jacque in CF which is why we'll sign him in the first place.

Evil Empire
12-18-05, 09:25 AM
So who'll be in CF? Bubba? I'd rather have Jacque in CF which is why we'll sign him in the first place.

Okay then put Bubba in Right.

RhodeyYankee2638
12-18-05, 09:28 AM
We certainly need another bat

Johnny O
12-18-05, 09:52 AM
For those of you who don't think we need another bat, any team could always use another player who adds value, and Durazo would certainly do that. The only issue with Ruby is that he cannot field a position well, but he's a good offensive player. To say "we don't need a DH we need a CFer" is the exact kind of thought process the Yankees are trying to get away from, every roster spot should be considered for upgrade.

38Special
12-18-05, 09:52 AM
Jacque should not be in center field

ICEBERG18
12-18-05, 09:57 AM
I actually think he would help us alot, but i don't see the Yankees going after him.

gdn
12-18-05, 09:57 AM
No need to add another non-fielding player to the lineup. There will be a severe logjam at 1st/DH if we do. The time to add Durazo was two/three years ago. Needless to say, that has passed.

BJG
12-18-05, 10:22 AM
For those of you who don't think we need another bat, any team could always use another player who adds value, and Durazo would certainly do that. The only issue with Ruby is that he cannot field a position well, but he's a good offensive player. To say "we don't need a DH we need a CFer" is the exact kind of thought process the Yankees are trying to get away from, every roster spot should be considered for upgrade.

What the Yankees have said, over and over this offseason, is that they would prefer to shuffle their older players into the DH role. A full time DH like Durazo doesn't make that possible.

Yankyfan
12-18-05, 12:19 PM
I'd rather Phillips from the right side ,He's cheaper and is more flexable to fit the team.JMO :D

KINGOFNY
12-18-05, 06:47 PM
How About Preston Wilson For Cf His Stats Last Year Were Above Avg 25 Homers.could Get Him Cheaper And Less Contract Time Than Damon.

Irabu's Son
12-18-05, 07:58 PM
How About Preston Wilson For Cf His Stats Last Year Were Above Avg 25 Homers.could Get Him Cheaper And Less Contract Time Than Damon.

Love Those Caps And Your Idea Isn't Bad Either.

Jglaubman
12-18-05, 08:23 PM
I would rather have a rotating DH of Sheff, Giambi, Bernie, and giving players a rest. If we got a permanent DH, those players would have to play the field, or just sit out.

shotgun_sam
12-18-05, 08:28 PM
For those of you who don't think we need another bat, any team could always use another player who adds value, and Durazo would certainly do that. The only issue with Ruby is that he cannot field a position well, but he's a good offensive player. To say "we don't need a DH we need a CFer" is the exact kind of thought process the Yankees are trying to get away from, every roster spot should be considered for upgrade.


So.....we should upgrade SS,3B, LF, and 2B too?

Oh, and yeah....we do need a CF, and NOT another DH.

shotgun_sam
12-18-05, 08:30 PM
How About Preston Wilson For Cf His Stats Last Year Were Above Avg 25 Homers.could Get Him Cheaper And Less Contract Time Than Damon.


Cashman recently said that Wilson "wasn't on his radar at the moment" but things could change, i think he would fit alright here.

bagger015
12-18-05, 09:28 PM
WE still need a DH


The Yankees do not need a DH..........they already have enough.........a rotation of the DH position will give the older players some time off from the field. If anything another position player with multi talents would be nice to compliment the DH rotation already present.

JeterRodriguezSheff
12-18-05, 09:32 PM
How About Preston Wilson For Cf His Stats Last Year Were Above Avg 25 Homers.could Get Him Cheaper And Less Contract Time Than Damon.

his obp is a little low, hes getting up their in age and his defense isnt great but if we can sign him for one year real cheap than so be it.

KINGOFNY
12-18-05, 09:40 PM
The Yankees do not need a DH..........they already have enough.........a rotation of the DH position will give the older players some time off from the field. If anything another position player with multi talents would be nice to compliment the DH rotation already present.garciaparra would have fit this role great too bad he went to LA .

Johnny O
12-18-05, 09:42 PM
So.....we should upgrade SS,3B, LF, and 2B too?

Oh, and yeah....we do need a CF, and NOT another DH.

Considering the best SS on the team doesn't play SS, maybe. I don't want to dredge that up again, by how else to respond to something so ridiculous. Every organization should perpetually reassess it's assets and look for ways to improve, it's just a good business practice.

I never said we didn't need a CFer, just that acquiring Durazo (or anyone) would not mean we couldn't also address CF. It's not either or.

gold23
12-19-05, 11:55 AM
What the Yankees have said, over and over this offseason, is that they would prefer to shuffle their older players into the DH role. A full time DH like Durazo doesn't make that possible.

Yep, and like others in this thread I like this idea. The ability to rest the legs and bodies of Sheffield, Matsui, Giambi, et., would be welcomed.

They are still short at least a player to do that, however. Someone like a Jason Michaels would fill that nicely, as he could play anywhere decently in the OF, and against a tough lefty he'd be in center and you could live with Phillips at 1B.

MR STEINBRENNER 27
12-24-05, 01:38 AM
we already have enough DHs

What we need is a guy who can play the field so guys like Sheff can get time at DH

bingo. We need a 4th outfielder THAT CAN PLAY THE FIELD (sorry Bernie). Jason Michaels is my choice as long as he only costs us Sturtze and Proctor.

I would go along with the Durazo signing anyway because this guy is an on base machine with a lot of power and a knack for pinch hitting, which we need off the bench with ol' Rube gone. But hes no more durable than Giambi and I doubt he would sign with us when he will get more playing time elsewhere. Id like to sign him but I doubt it happens.

Bob846
01-25-06, 11:55 PM
Why is this guy still looking for a place to play next year? Was his injury that severe?

aeromac76
01-26-06, 07:49 AM
Why is this guy still looking for a place to play next year? Was his injury that severe?

I don't know specifcally about last year's injury, but the thing he Durazo is always hurt, I mean always. It is not like last year was his first major injury, this guy has an annual season ender it seems, so his durability is definitely in question. Because he is a capable player when he plays, he is likely asking for $$$ that represent his ability, which is pretty good. But teams don't want to pay for ability that they don't think can take the field..

NYDCYankee
01-26-06, 09:01 AM
I wonder if he would take a minor league deal.

vegematarian
01-26-06, 04:42 PM
I'll take him if he can do what he did one of the only times I saw him play in person...hit 3 dingers in 1 game. ;)

RhodeyYankee2638
01-26-06, 04:49 PM
I don't know specifcally about last year's injury, but the thing he Durazo is always hurt, I mean always. It is not like last year was his first major injury, this guy has an annual season ender it seems, so his durability is definitely in question. Because he is a capable player when he plays, he is likely asking for $$$ that represent his ability, which is pretty good. But teams don't want to pay for ability that they don't think can take the field..

So wouldn't that be in the teams' favor? Lowball him with some decent incentives thrown in if he meets certain requirements?

Why Not?
01-26-06, 08:20 PM
I wonder if he would take a minor league deal.

I would seriously doubt it. Enough teams are looking for a qualtiy OBP guy like Durazo, somebody will throw a major league deal at him.

Seems the Orioles have interest in adding Durazo to the DH mix, but it would probably only happen if they can deal Javy Lopez.

aeromac76
01-27-06, 09:33 PM
So wouldn't that be in the teams' favor? Lowball him with some decent incentives thrown in if he meets certain requirements?

Valid point my friend. He is likely looking for guaranteed money, but it certainly would not hurt to inquire!!!
:)

genius-24
01-27-06, 09:40 PM
Minor league deal would do it if he should be coming back in june.
This deal should provide some insurance if phillips fails.

NewEraYanks2527
01-28-06, 01:02 AM
Minor league deal would do it if he should be coming back in june.
This deal should provide some insurance if phillips fails. It would be very nice if he took that deal and as RhodyYanks said, why not lowball him and see what's up. Regardless if we had a somewhat healthy Durazo waiting in the wings for a chance to come off the bench and pinch hit or DH that would really make the lineup deadly, though as I have been saying I really would like to see the Yankees get a solid corner OFer and see Sheff DH alot more.

JavyVazquezIsSick
02-22-06, 01:02 PM
What a steal for the Rangers...

Nome
02-22-06, 01:17 PM
we already have enough DHs

What we need is a guy who can play the field so guys like Sheff can get time at DH


We have an overabundance of DH's

Davios
02-22-06, 03:51 PM
What a steal for the Rangers...



We're paying Bernie more to be our DH/ pinchhitter. Maybe I'm the only one, but I'd feel a hell of a lot better with Durazo as DH than I would Bernie.

27IsNext
02-22-06, 03:54 PM
We're paying Bernie more to be our DH/ pinchhitter. Maybe I'm the only one, but I'd feel a hell of a lot better with Durazo as DH than I would Bernie.

I completely agree. Cronyism wins over upside. :(

Jaeho
02-22-06, 06:26 PM
I completely agree. Cronyism wins over upside. :(

Cronyism? Croyism is favoritism shown to old friends without regard for their qualifications

Are you saying Bernie doesn't have the qualifications?

We also need that DH slot open to give people some rest. And Durazo has to prove he has recovered from Tommy John surgery before we can worry about what "upside" he has. No loss here.

SINCE77 2
02-22-06, 07:02 PM
What a steal for the Rangers...


I'm thinking that he is nothing more than a trade deadline bargaining chip for the Rangers should they find themselves in contention. Durazo gives them nothing that they don't already have in spades and he probably won't be ready until midseason.

ComeBackShane47
02-23-06, 12:09 PM
What a steal for the Rangers...

There has to be a reason no team signed him until then, and why would he sign in Texas if there were other offers? Truth is, even when healthy Durazo isnt a gerat player, and if he can't hit he can contribute anything over it, and that elbow injury would 100% ensure that he can't.

Though everyone else is right, bernie shouldnt be starting at DH, and that just goes to show how terrible the bench is. The DH spot and bench will cost the Yankees a few wins this season, and remember if one of the starters goes down the Yanks are looking at 200 ab's for guys liek cairo, crosby, and stinnet

JavyVazquezIsSick
02-23-06, 01:30 PM
We also need that DH slot open to give people some rest. And Durazo has to prove he has recovered from Tommy John surgery before we can worry about what "upside" he has. No loss here.

Yeah thats why he was signed to a minor league contract. The upside of Durazo is worth so much more than that contract, and if he doesn't produce it would still be worth a minor league contract...

27IsNext
02-23-06, 02:32 PM
Cronyism? Croyism is favoritism shown to old friends without regard for their qualifications

Are you saying Bernie doesn't have the qualifications?

We also need that DH slot open to give people some rest. And Durazo has to prove he has recovered from Tommy John surgery before we can worry about what "upside" he has. No loss here.

Bernie is no longer a good hitter, nor is he a good fielder.

If given the choice between Durazo and Bernie, I would've gone with Durazo. That being said, it would have been a minor-league deal, and I would've filled the bench with guys that are actually useful.

AustinTXHorn
02-27-06, 02:01 AM
and why would he sign in Texas if there were other offers?
Why wouldn't he? If you're a hitter coming off of a down year or injury that is looking to have a good offensive year and get some money the year after, where would you want to go?

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