View Full Version : Rudy Seanez ??
Yankyfan
12-15-05, 11:37 AM
I heard his name on the MKS yesterday and said to myself why would the Yanks have intrest in him. Boy, now I see why. He had a very good year last year and a real good second half to the 03 season. My question is do you think his numbers would be similar in the AM. League and can he handle NY ?
Yankees1962
12-15-05, 11:43 AM
Who really knows? About 95% of these relief pitchers are a crapshoot when it comes to their performances from one year and place to another.
RhodeyYankee2638
12-15-05, 11:43 AM
I think the Sox offered him a contract
Yankyfan
12-15-05, 11:46 AM
He had top numbers but he did it for SD. I'd hate for another Quantrill type. what type of pitcher is he? I see he's only 5-10, is he a power guy?
Yankyfan
12-15-05, 11:47 AM
Red or White ?
BigBats
12-15-05, 11:57 AM
Great pitcher if he can stay healthy.
Babe Rules
12-15-05, 12:03 PM
Great pitcher if he can stay healthy.
Agreed. I'd give him a one year deal with a vesting option.
Agreed. I'd give him a one year deal with a vesting option.
This year, relief pitchers hold the hammer. LAst year it was the starters, thanks to Omar and the overpaid Benson deal. This year Omar did the same to relief pitchers with the 4th year to Wagner.
Seanez, even at his age, will get at least a 2 year deal.
JeffWeaverFan
12-15-05, 12:50 PM
He strikes batters out. That won't just go away. He's my first choice of guys to sign as of now, but I am concerened about his injury history.
Mr. Mxylsplk
12-15-05, 01:04 PM
I think the Sox offered him a contract
According to rotoworld, the sox are one of four teams to offer him a contract, with the yanks and dodgers expected to join in the fray. 6 offers to choose from will make him pretty expensive, especially for a 37 year old with health issues. He certainly has pitched well recently though.
StatenIslandYankee
12-15-05, 01:14 PM
He does have great stuff.
flymick24
12-15-05, 01:14 PM
He had top numbers but he did it for SD. I'd hate for another Quantrill type. what type of pitcher is he? I see he's only 5-10, is he a power guy?
fastball tops out at mid 90s, but he strikes a lot of guys out with his off speed stuff (good breaking ball, decent change up)
Stupid Flanders
12-15-05, 01:53 PM
I would love to have him
nickzcool51
12-15-05, 02:15 PM
This year, relief pitchers hold the hammer. LAst year it was the starters, thanks to Omar and the overpaid Benson deal. This year Omar did the same to relief pitchers with the 4th year to Wagner.
Seanez, even at his age, will get at least a 2 year deal.
Actually, this year, relievers and starters are both in excellent positions due to stupid J.P. Ricardi overpaying both AJ Burnett and BJ Ryan. Burnett's deal was especially ludicrious considering that he is around .500 for his career.
puckmaster87
12-15-05, 02:17 PM
Actually, this year, relievers and starters are both in excellent positions due to stupid J.P. Ricardi overpaying both AJ Burnett and BJ Ryan. Burnett's deal was especially ludicrious considering that he is around .500 for his career.
While I certainly believe that Ricciardi overpayed Ryan by a ton, the AJ Burnett deal was reasonable. The only thing I have against it is that Burnett is a slight injury risk. But with the way Burnett throws, he really is a threat to throw a no-hitter every time he comes out to the mound. He's really an excellent pitcher. Wins don't mean anything, as we saw in Roger Clemens' case this year.
ryanthe13th
12-15-05, 02:25 PM
I thought the point of this team was to get younger, not sign 37 year old, injury prone relievers with career ERA's of 4.12 after one of their best years.
The Dynasty
12-15-05, 02:30 PM
I've had chance to see a good amount of Seanez's games for the past several years, so here's a quick scouting report.
An injury risk. Has had a few DL stints--mostly stemming from a back problem.
Fastball doesn't have much movement, but he can chuck it anywhere between 92-96 easily. He doesn't use it as much as he does the following two pitches:
Out pitch = 12-to-6 breaking ball...plus pitch...very effective especially after pitching his fastball up in the zone.
Changeup/Sliderish type pitch: average to below-average
Regardless, he has great control and strikes batters out.
Yankyfan
12-15-05, 04:01 PM
D would you sign him for A 2 year deal knowing what you know?
The Dynasty
12-15-05, 04:15 PM
D would you sign him for A 2 year deal knowing what you know?
Depends what the deal looks like in regards to base salary, options, incentives. When healthy, he's an above-average reliever which equates to a great 7th inning guy.
But I honestly look at him and it makes me think what Scott Proctor can be if he had control (perhaps ramp down his fastball) and continued to work in that breaking ball. Honestly, I'd rather throw the money at the likes of Dotel.
Honestly, I'd rather throw the money at the likes of Dotel.
Who told ESPN a week or two ago that he should be ready to go by midseason. You can throw money at him if you want, but it won't do much good for the team this year.
Fabien Brandy
12-15-05, 04:44 PM
A mix of Seanez and Dotel might get the team a full season of dominant relief between the two. I'd prefer they splurge for the upside of both than go for Tavarez.
A mix of Seanez and Dotel might get the team a full season of dominant relief between the two. I'd prefer they splurge for the upside of both than go for Tavarez.
Agreed, though the problem with that is that it requires some kind of confluence of the stars for it to work out that way. It seems just as likely that they are both hurt at the same time.
Yankyfan
12-15-05, 06:06 PM
Julian is a head case though....
flymick24
12-15-05, 06:43 PM
Julian is a head case though....
even aside from that, he's a groundball pitcher who relies heavily on defense. i'd rather get bullpen arms who miss bats.
ICEBERG18
12-15-05, 06:48 PM
A mix of Seanez and Dotel might get the team a full season of dominant relief between the two. I'd prefer they splurge for the upside of both than go for Tavarez.
Im with you on that one.
goin for 27
12-17-05, 06:24 PM
I heard his name on the MKS yesterday and said to myself why would the Yanks have intrest in him. Boy, now I see why. He had a very good year last year and a real good second half to the 03 season. My question is do you think his numbers would be similar in the AM. League and can he handle NY ?
Looks like he is signing with Boston. 1 year deal. Risk guy, but could be an excellent pickup.
Seanez, 37, is expected to sign a one-year deal with an option for a second year. He likely would be used in a setup role along with right-hander Mike Timlin, and would give the team added protection if closer Keith Foulke again faltered.
"We're quite close to getting something done with Boston," said Seanez's agent, David Schwartz of CSMG Sports. "It's looking very good that something likely will get done at some point in the next few days. In principle, we're almost there."
Seanez posted a 2.69 ERA for the Padres last season, holding opposing batters to a .222 average while striking out 84 and issuing only 22 walks in 601/3 innings. The Braves were among the teams that had been pursuing him.
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/5173662
jonnyc39
12-17-05, 06:39 PM
Looks like he is signing with Boston. 1 year deal. Risk guy, but could be an excellent pickup.
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/5173662
I'll be interested to see the $$. Would have thought he could get multi-years guaranteed in this market, even at his age.
I think I like this move as a Sox fan - you never really know what you're going to get a releiver. If he duplicates last year, great. If not cut him loose and bring up an arm from AAA.
Michaels07
12-17-05, 08:03 PM
I heard his name on the MKS yesterday and said to myself why would the Yanks have intrest in him. Boy, now I see why. He had a very good year last year and a real good second half to the 03 season. My question is do you think his numbers would be similar in the AM. League and can he handle NY ?
Look for him in Fenway.
conkermaniac
12-17-05, 08:07 PM
Ouch, he would have make a good addition to the Yankee bullpen. Hopefully this deal falls through. Couldn't the Yankees offer something better than 1 year? This guy has had two solid seasons already.
puckmaster87
12-17-05, 08:12 PM
Ouch, he would have make a good addition to the Yankee bullpen. Hopefully this deal falls through. Couldn't the Yankees offer something better than 1 year? This guy has had two solid seasons already.
Too much of an injury risk to offer anything more than a year.
If he signs with Boston I predict an ERA increase of around 2 points.
The NL West was loaded with both weak line-ups and great pitchers parks.
The AL East, especially Fenway, is hell for pitchers in comparison
ring403
12-17-05, 08:50 PM
Too much of an injury risk to offer anything more than a year.
Especially not at age 37.
If Seanez stays healthy, he'll be a good pickup for Boston. I think the Yankees have more interest in Dotel as their injury risk bullpen arm for 2006.
Bill James jokingly called Seanez the worst pitching prospect ever, if I recall, after he walked 111 in 113 innings in A+ ball at age 20.
puckmaster87
12-17-05, 09:24 PM
If he signs with Boston I predict an ERA increase of around 2 points.
The NL West was loaded with both weak line-ups and great pitchers parks.
The AL East, especially Fenway, is hell for pitchers in comparison
Good analysis. He's going from the worst division in baseball to quite possibly the best.
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