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ZYanksRule
04-17-06, 08:56 PM
that was insane
CptCrunch
04-17-06, 09:01 PM
What the hell happened to Pierce? Did he just disappear?
RhodeyYankee2638
04-17-06, 09:07 PM
What the hell happened to Pierce? Did he just disappear?
I think he was smart enough to just leave
SheffRocks11
04-17-06, 09:15 PM
F*ckin' Heller! I know he thinks he's doing the right thing but dammit that's annoying.
Yeah he almost killed his own daughter.
SheffRocks11
04-17-06, 09:16 PM
Oh man, what a great episode
I second that... that was an amazing episode.
I hate the frickin president.
Soriambi
04-17-06, 09:21 PM
I think that that was the best, or at least one of the best, episodes this season. A lot of questions to be answered. What happened to Pierce? Was that the real recording that Jack gave Henderson? What did Logan mean by "The Martha situation has been taken care of" in the teaser for next week? It seems that she found out something. Maybe Pierce calls his cell from somewhere else and tells her?
In the teaser, Jack said, "With all due respect, sir, he betrayed me." I didn't know who he was talking about. Maybe I misheard it or I'm missing something obvious. Any ideas?
NYDCYankee
04-17-06, 09:22 PM
Jack getting punched in the throat was awesome.
Soriambi
04-17-06, 09:25 PM
Jack getting punched in the throat was awesome.
It came out of NOWHERE. :lol:
RhodeyYankee2638
04-17-06, 09:30 PM
In the teaser, Jack said, "With all due respect, sir, he betrayed me." I didn't know who he was talking about. Maybe I misheard it or I'm missing something obvious. Any ideas?
I thought he told Heller "You betrayed me"
RhodeyYankee2638
04-17-06, 09:32 PM
I think the question on everyones mind is, where the hell are the pilots of the plane?
Soriambi
04-17-06, 09:32 PM
I thought he told Heller "You betrayed me"
That's what I was thinking it might have been. It would definately make sense.
Soriambi
04-17-06, 09:33 PM
I think the question on everyones mind is, where the hell are the pilots of the plane?
That's a very good point. :lol:
RhodeyYankee2638
04-17-06, 09:39 PM
Did anyone know that John McCaine made a cameo this season? I completely missed it
montrealer
04-17-06, 09:41 PM
I would plugged Audrey right between the Globes.
jonnyc39
04-17-06, 10:04 PM
Hey Rhodey - thoughts re: Audrey being in on it?
RhodeyYankee2638
04-17-06, 10:08 PM
Hey Rhodey - thoughts re: Audrey being in on it?
yeah she got f*cked up, maybe shes not in on it, then again they didn't show the wound...
NYDCYankee
04-17-06, 10:09 PM
Hey Rhodey - thoughts re: Audrey being in on it?
She can't be trusted.
jonnyc39
04-17-06, 10:12 PM
She can't be trusted.
Why not?
She's the toughest chick on the show since Nina, who Jack was also involved with, and I don't see the writers taking Jack down that road again.
RhodeyYankee2638
04-17-06, 10:13 PM
Why not?
She's connected to Walt Cummings. I wanna know how they knew Jack was alive. I still think Audrey knew Jack was alive beforehand
jonnyc39
04-17-06, 10:16 PM
She's connected to Walt Cummings. I wanna know how they knew Jack was alive. I still think Audrey knew Jack was alive beforehand
Fair enough. But I think she's done plenty to prove that she could be trusted since the Cummings fiasco. My gut still tells me that Audrey's legit.
Also, anyone notice Logan mentioning the Chinese tonight?
Very good episode tonight.
RhodeyYankee2638
04-17-06, 10:17 PM
Also, anyone notice Logan mentioning the Chinese tonight?
he dug a whole for himself. Mike is suspicious, his wife is suspicious, Aaron already knows he is a traitor.
jonnyc39
04-17-06, 10:22 PM
he dug a whole for himself. Mike is suspicious, his wife is suspicious, Aaron already knows he is a traitor.
Yep. I was scared sh*tless for Mike when he went in to confront Logan.
RhodeyYankee2638
04-17-06, 10:26 PM
Yep. I was scared sh*tless for Mike when he went in to confront Logan.
Im glad to know Mike wasn't apart of it. Where the hell is Curtis?
jonnyc39
04-17-06, 10:31 PM
Im glad to know Mike wasn't apart of it. Where the hell is Curtis?Did he get let go with the rest of the CTU staff when Homeland Security took over? That's all I can think of, but they can't let him go out like that.
NYDCYankee
04-17-06, 10:38 PM
Did he get let go with the rest of the CTU staff when Homeland Security took over? That's all I can think of, but they can't let him go out like that.
You would think that they would still use him out on the field. He is the top man.
NYDCYankee
04-17-06, 10:39 PM
She's the toughest chick on the show since Nina.
Exactly. Chicks shouldn't be that tough.
RhodyYanksFan
04-17-06, 10:52 PM
yeah she got f*cked up, maybe shes not in on it, then again they didn't show the wound...
I think Jack would have noticed if she didn't really have a wound. I mean, he tied a freakin' tournicate.
Logan was so close to gonig down! What an intense episode. I'm glad Heller's not a part of it. Logan is being way too sloppy. All day he practially had Mike be the President and all of a sudden he's a dick to him? Plus Aaron knows and now Martha is curious. It's a house of cards that he can't keep forever.
He can't call the Chinese because they would be uber-pissed at the US so I think that story might be on hold until next season.
Wow, that was a great episode.
Soriambi
04-17-06, 10:57 PM
I don't think Audrey is in on it. Her being implicated, Jack trusting her again, and then her actually being in on it (Spoiler from season one follows) would be almost exactly like Nina, and I doubt they'd recycle that plotline like that.
NYDCYankee
04-17-06, 11:02 PM
He can't call the Chinese because they would be uber-pissed at the US so I think that story might be on hold until next season.
Agreed. I think that line was dropped out there for the fans to let them know that they haven't forgotten about that story.
Jete&Tino42
04-18-06, 12:15 AM
Great episode tonight. But I wonder where Aaron Pierce went to? I love how everyone around the President is starting to catch on to his slimey ways. Oh and another thing, whatever happened to Curtis? Are we just supposed to assume he lost his job when CTU got taken over by Homeland Security?
ZYanksRule
04-18-06, 01:37 AM
Jack getting punched in the throat was awesome.
Oh man, I know, I almost had a heart attack when that happened.
This season started out amazing, had some rough times, but it's really turned it on these last few weeks,
boo_427
04-18-06, 08:22 AM
Funny thing is that it seems Logan is answering to someone else.
I thought last night was great. Is there five or six episodes left?
Lots of time for a few twists and time to tie up some loose ends.
jonnyc39
04-18-06, 08:52 AM
Sorry for the backtrack, but I've been recapping the season in my head and am stuck on why exactly it was Jack that Henderson wanted to frame for Palmer's murder? I must be forgetting something...
RhodyYanksFan
04-18-06, 09:14 AM
Sorry for the backtrack, but I've been recapping the season in my head and am stuck on why exactly it was Jack that Henderson wanted to frame for Palmer's murder? I must be forgetting something...
Why not? By killing Tony, Michelle, Palmer and Chloe, Jack would be the perfect suspect for revenge killings (and I'm sure suicide). It was just convenient. That was their first mistake. They had Jack essentially dead & buried. If they just had some hitman kill Palmer none of this would have happened.
jonnyc39
04-18-06, 09:17 AM
Why not? By killing Tony, Michelle, Palmer and Chloe, Jack would be the perfect suspect for revenge killings (and I'm sure suicide). It was just convenient. That was their first mistake. They had Jack essentially dead & buried. If they just had some hitman kill Palmer none of this would have happened.Except, they did just hire a hitman to kill Palmer. Was Henderson still upset at Jack for his falling out at CTU? I've got to think there was another reason to get Jack involved,
boo_427
04-18-06, 09:35 AM
Sorry for the backtrack, but I've been recapping the season in my head and am stuck on why exactly it was Jack that Henderson wanted to frame for Palmer's murder? I must be forgetting something...
He was Jack's mentor. Jack had him either arrested or fired after an investigation into CTU. Henderson claimed Jack set him up.
Soriambi
04-18-06, 10:07 AM
But I wonder where Aaron Pierce went to?
I'm hoping that he's taking security precautions and he's going to call his cell phone from another location and tell her what's happening, or that he left a voicemail or something on his phone for her, because he didn't want to risk being seen with her, (though that seems like a stretch to me..it's a possibility, though) but he knew she'd find the phone because she'd call it or something. In the teaser for next week, Martha was nearly attacking her husband, so it seems like she found out somehow, or at least found something out. I just hope Pierce isn't dead, because he's cool.
So.................. I fell asleep at 7:45pm last night and missed the episode!!! ARGH!
Someone want to be kind enough to give me a recap?
yanksphan
04-18-06, 10:39 AM
So.................. I fell asleep at 7:45pm last night and missed the episode!!! ARGH!
Someone want to be kind enough to give me a recap?
http://www.fox.com/24/episodes/
12:00 A.M.
Logan is not pleased that Henderson hasn’t killed Jack already. Henderson thinks that CTU can lead him to Jack.
12:02 A.M.
Logan calls Karen to reinforce his order that finding Jack is her top priority. Miles knows that they will need to use Audrey and Chloe to get to him.
12:04 A.M.
Jack and Wayne wait on the side of the road for Buchanan. Jack had asked him for help and explains the current situation. Jack needs Buchanan to take Wayne somewhere safe because he’s a target. Jack leaves to meet Secretary Heller to hand over the evidence.
.......
CptCrunch
04-18-06, 10:39 AM
So.................. I fell asleep at 7:45pm last night and missed the episode!!! ARGH!
Someone want to be kind enough to give me a recap?
http://www.fox.com/24/episodes/
Spectacular! As I was reading the summary, I could see it take place.
Arod for President
04-18-06, 02:20 PM
i just got one thing to say.. Pres. is goin DOWN
i just got one thing to say.. Pres. is goin DOWN
Then A-rod can finally run for president.
CalYankeeFan
04-19-06, 05:42 AM
I really hate that Homeland Security guy. He's such a sleazy dickhead.
yeah...he's in on it ...got to be
anyone think that the VP could be in on it as well? I don't think it would make much sense, but I think there need to be a few more turns...something shocking.
SheffRocks11
04-19-06, 06:25 PM
anyone think that the VP could be in on it as well? I don't think it would make much sense, but I think there need to be a few more turns...something shocking.
doubt it...
RhodeyYankee2638
04-19-06, 06:58 PM
anyone think that the VP could be in on it as well? I don't think it would make much sense, but I think there need to be a few more turns...something shocking.
I dont think so, simply because he questioned Logan's call to keep martial law in place for another day. If the VP was in on it, he would know they are using martial law to blockade Bauer and get the audiotape
That could be the best 15 minutes of 24 of the season. And for those of you who didn't see it, I won't spoil it, but I think he is still alive after that.
That Secretary Heller really loves America.
NyyNjnNyg
04-24-06, 09:27 PM
What a great episode. Of course, nobody is looking while Jack boards the plane, haha.
Jack Bauer hijacking a plane. Now that's just crazy.
Jete&Tino42
04-24-06, 09:45 PM
Good episode. I thought it was a little dumb how easily Jack snuck on the plane, but this season has been one of the best ones in a while.
Soriambi
04-24-06, 09:47 PM
anyone think that the VP could be in on it as well? I don't think it would make much sense, but I think there need to be a few more turns...something shocking.
The President of the United States allowing the assassination of a former President and allowing nerve gas to be stolen by terrorists isn't shocking enough for you? ;)
Seriously, I think that might be a bit over the top.
CptCrunch
04-24-06, 10:05 PM
Good episode. I thought it was a little dumb how easily Jack snuck on the plane, but this season has been one of the best ones in a while.
Yeah, that part was just a bit far-fetched. Good episode though, I can't wait until next week.
And would you lay off my eyebrows, I've been meaning to have them plucked.
NyyNjnNyg
04-24-06, 10:08 PM
The President of the United States allowing the assassination of a former President and allowing nerve gas to be stolen by terrorists isn't shocking enough for you? ;)
Seriously, I think that might be a bit over the top.
The whole show is a bit over the top, but that's what I love about it I guess.
RhodeyYankee2638
04-24-06, 10:08 PM
I love how Heller would rather drown than get shot by a bunch of traitors
NYDCYankee
04-24-06, 10:22 PM
I love how Heller would rather drown than get shot by a bunch of traitors
He might not be dead.
NYDCYankee
04-24-06, 10:24 PM
Good episode. I thought it was a little dumb how easily Jack snuck on the plane, but this season has been one of the best ones in a while.
I am surprised he didn't just bop one of the baggage guys on the head and steal his yellow vest. That would have been more believable.
RhodeyYankee2638
04-24-06, 10:24 PM
He might not be dead.
i'd be real impressed if he wasnn't
Soriambi
04-24-06, 10:27 PM
The whole show is a bit over the top, but that's what I love about it I guess.
Well yeah, obviously, but I think that there's a point that they could go beyond the point where I can suspend my disbelief and make it just too unbelievable to even think, "hey, that could happen."
Jete&Tino42
04-24-06, 10:27 PM
And would you lay off my eyebrows, I've been meaning to have them plucked.
:lol: Ok, I'll try.
Soriambi
04-24-06, 10:27 PM
i'd be real impressed if he wasnn't
Do you think Pierce is dead, Rhodey? (Or anyone else.)
NYDCYankee
04-24-06, 10:33 PM
i'd be real impressed if he wasnn't
Well he landed in the water softening the impact, he could have just opened the door and got out. I just don't think we have seen the last of Heller.
And I don't think Pierce is dead either.
jonnyc39
04-24-06, 10:46 PM
No way Pierce is dead.
Also, I was really hoping that there were Chinese aboard the plane. Judging by next week's preview it looks like it's another Russian, though.
Also, who the hell is the guy from ER? And Curtis comes and saves Aurdey! Great, great episode.
NYDCYankee
04-24-06, 10:48 PM
Also, who the hell is the guy from ER?
Seems like a creepy shadow government type of deal.
Seems like a creepy shadow government type of deal.
*coughThePatriotscough*
NYDCYankee
04-24-06, 10:57 PM
*coughThePatriotscough*
Are you trying to say something about Corey Dillon?
Are you trying to say something about Corey Dillon?
:lol: No. More like Big Boss. ;)
NyyNjnNyg
04-24-06, 11:06 PM
It was said that Pierce was transferred back to DC, correct?
SpideyGX42
04-24-06, 11:06 PM
There is one prime character that hasn't been introduced.(I believe) Once he or she is in the game.....24 will really go nonstop...then again its just a theory.
SpideyGX42
04-24-06, 11:07 PM
I dont think Pierce is gonna make it.....something to do with the patriots
NYDCYankee
04-24-06, 11:09 PM
Am I missng something? why are we calling these guys The Patriots? wasn't that one guy african?
Am I missng something? why are we calling these guys The Patriots? wasn't that one guy african?
:lol: We're just jokin around man. This is similar to the Metal Gear Solid plots where there's a group of men who run the world's governments from behind the scenes.
SpideyGX42
04-24-06, 11:13 PM
who knows maybe jack is messing with the patriots or the sons of liberty....hm....
who knows maybe jack is messing with the patriots or the sons of liberty....hm....
Oh snap.
NYDCYankee
04-24-06, 11:16 PM
:lol: We're just jokin around man. This is similar to the Metal Gear Solid plots where there's a group of men who run the world's governments from behind the scenes.
Ah ok. :P Well I do think that is the case though with these guys. We can call them the Patriots I think that makes sense. (In Prison Break a similar group is called The Company).
I still want to know about the umbrella terrorist group that Nina was working for in Season 1 and who the hot lesbian assassin was working for when she tried to kill President Palmer at the end of Season 2.
Ah ok. :P Well I do think that is the case though with these guys. We can call them the Patriots I think that makes sense. (In Prison Break a similar group is called The Company).
I still want to know about the umbrella terrorist group that Nina was working for in Season 1 and who the hot lesbian assassin was working for when she tried to kill President Palmer at the end of Season 2.
In Metal Gear they'd ALL be working for the Patriots and this whole thing would be a set up to clone more Jack Bauers. :lol:
Also, who the hell is the guy from ER?
And why does he still have both of his arms? I distinctly remember one of them being torn off by a helicopter blade.
Well he landed in the water softening the impact, he could have just opened the door and got out. I just don't think we have seen the last of Heller.
And I don't think Pierce is dead either.
Couldn't he have bailed before it went over? I don't remember how closely they showed the car as it got to the edge.
NYDCYankee
04-25-06, 06:03 AM
Couldn't he have bailed before it went over? I don't remember how closely they showed the car as it got to the edge.
There was also a big air bubble when the car landed, so maybe he opened the door or something.
NYYfan24
04-25-06, 08:20 AM
And why does he still have both of his arms? I distinctly remember one of them being torn off by a helicopter blade.
He lost his arm to a helicopter blade...and then later on....on landed on him and crushed him....ouch!
jonnyc39
04-25-06, 08:31 AM
Couldn't he have bailed before it went over? I don't remember how closely they showed the car as it got to the edge.His car was going like 60 MPH.
CalYankeeFan
04-25-06, 08:39 AM
The President of the United States allowing the assassination of a former President and allowing nerve gas to be stolen by terrorists isn't shocking enough for you? ;)
Seriously, I think that might be a bit over the top.
This whole show is over the top ...next season will have the president starting a
a war under what many say are under false pretenses..........
hey, wait.....:looking:
jonnyc39
04-25-06, 08:45 AM
There is one prime character that hasn't been introduced.(I believe) Once he or she is in the game.....24 will really go nonstop...then again its just a theory.You think there's another prime character outside of the new group of "Patriots" let by the Bluetooth headset-wearing bald guy?
jonnyc39
04-25-06, 08:48 AM
He might not be dead.If Hellter could survive the impact of his car falling off a cliff and hitting the ocean at 60+ MPH, I'd be even more impressed than Henderson's 10 second recovery from paralysis drugs at CTU.
RhodyYanksFan
04-25-06, 09:24 AM
I really didn't like how Heller just gave up like that. He could have driven into the woods or something. He'd have time to get away and hide by the time the chopper landed and/or people propelled down.
Curtis is the man. Saving the day again. Logan really can't handle the pressure. Ever since the audience found out about him he's let his guard down everywhere and has everyone asking questions. He's a sloppy terrorist.
I wonder who the ER guy could be to have that much power over the leader of the free world like that. I knew we'd see another, final bad guy for the last 5 hours.
Is Audrey gonna make it to 7AM?
Dr. Gonzo
04-25-06, 09:28 AM
The President of the United States allowing the assassination of a former President and allowing nerve gas to be stolen by terrorists isn't shocking enough for you? ;)
Seriously, I think that might be a bit over the top.
i actually loathe this show
but truth is crazier then fiction,
i wouldnt be surprised if governments all over the world have done some shady business. Look at the kennedy assassination, even congress admiteed that lee wasn't the only shooter (if he even was one), a new inquiry was called for, but has still never happened. And they keep extending the secrecy on documents related to the killing. Something was up there.
NYDCYankee
04-25-06, 09:28 AM
Curtis is the man.
Is Audrey gonna make it to 7AM?
Good to see Curtis back again.
I say Audrey is done. She has a tv show coming out next year.
What a great episode. I wonder where that plane is going. Good thing the new HS lady finally came around to trusting Buchanan.
The prez is such a ................bag, though and I'm sure Marty is going to do something. I have the distinct feeling the Pres will die.
Other than that - Chloe is damn funny! :D
Jete&Tino42
04-25-06, 11:11 AM
I don't think Pierce is dead either. I just have a feeling he'll show up again sometime this season. That would be a really lame way to write him out of the show by just saying "he's been transfered."
And I also think that Audrey is going to die by the end of the season. I just don't really see a point with her character anymore, and like someone else said she's got a new show coming out.
SpideyGX42
04-25-06, 01:10 PM
You think there's another prime character outside of the new group of "Patriots" let by the Bluetooth headset-wearing bald guy?
yup, i believe so:D
RhodeyYankee2638
04-25-06, 03:04 PM
I have a question that I am having trouble with. Did the President plan to kill Subarov?? If so, this could turn into an international incident
RhodyYanksFan
04-25-06, 03:10 PM
I have a question that I am having trouble with. Did the President plan to kill Subarov?? If so, this could turn into an international incident
Wait...what one is Subarov again?
Did we just forget about and give up on Bierko?
jonnyc39
04-25-06, 03:18 PM
I have a question that I am having trouble with. Did the President plan to kill Subarov?? If so, this could turn into an international incidentWell, he certainly planned on bombing his motorcade.
It's also been mentioned that he wanted to detonate the nuke while in the possession of the terrorists so that he could invoke the military clause in the treaty he had just signed with Subarov.
Not sure if that helps.
Wait...what one is Subarov again?
Did we just forget about and give up on Bierko?Subarov is the Russian premier.
RhodyYanksFan
04-26-06, 11:31 AM
Subarov is the Russian premier.
That's right. Thanks.
What about Bierko? Is he done or will they get back to him? Did he know he was working for the President?
jonnyc39
04-26-06, 01:51 PM
That's right. Thanks.
What about Bierko? Is he done or will they get back to him? Did he know he was working for the President?I believe Bierko was brought back to CTU to be interrogated and recover from the explosion, so I'd say it's up in the air if we'll see him again or not. I'd guess probably not - I'm not sure what else he could really offer.
RhodyYanksFan
04-26-06, 02:20 PM
I believe Bierko was brought back to CTU to be interrogated and recover from the explosion, so I'd say it's up in the air if we'll see him again or not. I'd guess probably not - I'm not sure what else he could really offer.
He's as good as dead anyway if they took him to the CTU medical clinic. Nobody ever surives that place.
jonnyc39
04-26-06, 02:30 PM
He's as good as dead anyway if they took him to the CTU medical clinic. Nobody ever surives that place.Except superhuman Henderson, who recovered with a simple shake of his head.
CptCrunch
04-26-06, 02:46 PM
That's right. Thanks.
What about Bierko? Is he done or will they get back to him? Did he know he was working for the President?
In the last episode, I think I remember the guy from Homeland (I forget his name) telling Karen that Bierko had regained consciousness and they were ready to begin interrogating him. Does anyone else remember this?
RhodyYanksFan
04-26-06, 03:18 PM
In the last episode, I think I remember the guy from Homeland (I forget his name) telling Karen that Bierko had regained consciousness and they were ready to begin interrogating him. Does anyone else remember this?
Miles from Homeland is an asshole. Don't believe a word he says.
NYDCYankee
04-26-06, 05:21 PM
In the last episode, I think I remember the guy from Homeland (I forget his name) telling Karen that Bierko had regained consciousness and they were ready to begin interrogating him. Does anyone else remember this?
Yes. They did say that. We will see more of Bierko I bet.
nhyankeefan
05-01-06, 08:55 PM
How come no one is willing to do anything against the President this season when they almost impeached Palmer in season 2 for doing much less?
Soriambi
05-01-06, 10:15 PM
Miles from Homeland is an asshole. Don't believe a word he says.
Asshole, yes, but I don't think he's a bad guy, that is, I don't think he's covering up for the President, etc.
I just think that his character is too overtly evil to actually be evil, if that makes sense.
CptCrunch
05-01-06, 10:24 PM
I loved the part where Buchanan tells Miles "Back off you little asskisser."
Only Jack Bauer can take a plane full of people hostage while being locked in the luggage compartment and running out of air.
NYDCYankee
05-01-06, 11:19 PM
Only Jack Bauer can take a plane full of people hostage while being locked in the luggage compartment and running out of air.
And almost crash the plane while he is in there.
jonnyc39
05-02-06, 08:34 AM
Pretty weak episode last night, IMO. But they have set up a pretty dramatic standoff next week.
Only four hours left...damn.
boo_427
05-02-06, 08:52 AM
Where is Aaron Pierce? I don't buy this Washington DC bs.
That co-pilot seemed fishy when they were talking about landing the plan.
Novak knows something is up, but he just can't seem to nail it down.
jonnyc39
05-02-06, 08:53 AM
Where is Aaron Pierce? I don't buy this Washington DC bs.
That co-pilot seemed fishy when they were talking about landing the plan.
Novak knows something is up, but he just can't seem to nail it down.Still waiting on Pierce, and I'm also surprised that we didn't see Audrey or Henderson at all.
boo_427
05-02-06, 08:57 AM
Still waiting on Pierce, and I'm also surprised that we didn't see Audrey or Henderson at all.
Seems "Mr. Bluetooth" is calling the shots.
No way in heck anyone allows the Prez to shoot down that plane. Going to be really interesting to see how he tries to play that.... "Jack Bauer is killing passengers, that plane must be shot down."
jonnyc39
05-02-06, 09:39 AM
Seems "Mr. Bluetooth" is calling the shots.
No way in heck anyone allows the Prez to shoot down that plane. Going to be really interesting to see how he tries to play that.... "Jack Bauer is killing passengers, that plane must be shot down."Well that logic doesn't work, but it will be interesting to see how they deal with that order. Jack has survived a plane crash before, though. ;)
Jete&Tino42
05-02-06, 10:35 AM
That was only an OK epsiode last night. Some of the stuff on the plane seemed a little too far-fetched.
I'm also surprised that we didn't see Audrey or Hendeson last night. Probably just on their way back to CTU. Plus didn't they say two episdoes ago that Bierko woke up? He'll probably be brought back in somehow.
RhodeyYankee2638
05-02-06, 02:36 PM
No way in heck anyone allows the Prez to shoot down that plane. Going to be really interesting to see how he tries to play that.... "Jack Bauer is killing passengers, that plane must be shot down."
They intecepted the call from Chloe to CTU, they know Bauer has control of the plane. They could play it into a 9/11 situation
SheffRocks11
05-02-06, 06:18 PM
I hope Aaron's okay. :(
The writers of this show are indulging in too much sweet weed. Some of the story lines belong in a Mother Goose book. The co-pilot is a mole, the president is a mole, I'm a mole, you're a mole...... :wtf:
RhodeyYankee2638
05-03-06, 08:29 AM
The writers of this show are indulging in too much sweet weed. Some of the story lines belong in a Mother Goose book. The co-pilot is a mole, the president is a mole, I'm a mole, you're a mole...... :wtf:
god damn, didnt you say you were gonna stop watching it? well STOP
god damn, didnt you say you were gonna stop watching it? well STOPI did, but my wife still watches and sometimes she wants company....doesn't take long to catch up on what you've missed either. You have to admit, the holes in the writing have gotten bigger this year. For example, now that Jack has the tape AGAIN, he should have the ability to play it over his cellphone so CTU can record it, but no, he doesn't have something to play it on. ::wtf: He does however have the capability to make a phone call and have the entire security firewall system at the Louvre turned off in 30 seconds.
jonnyc39
05-03-06, 10:30 AM
I did, but my wife still watches and sometimes she wants company....doesn't take long to catch up on what you've missed either. You have to admit, the holes in the writing have gotten bigger this year. For example, now that Jack has the tape AGAIN, he should have the ability to play it over his cellphone so CTU can record it, but no, he doesn't have something to play it on. ::wtf: He does however have the capability to make a phone call and have the entire security firewall system at the Louvre turned off in 30 seconds.The recording is still in the device he used to play it when he retreived it at the bank, so that's not the problem.
He should swallow it.
NYYfan24
05-03-06, 10:55 AM
The writers of this show are indulging in too much sweet weed. Some of the story lines belong in a Mother Goose book. The co-pilot is a mole, the president is a mole, I'm a mole, you're a mole...... :wtf:
Everyone's a mole, mole! (sung to the tune of Old MacDonald)...sorry I couldn't resist! :P
I thought it was a weak episode...My husband missed it ..and it took about 5 minutes to give him an update...
BTW..Chloe's way of dealing with nosey internet cafe users was priceless! :D
BTW..Chloe's way of dealing with nosey internet cafe users was priceless! :D Good thing nobody was looking either time she zapped the slob...good thing nobody noticed when Jack elbowed the Air Marshall either. :) Did you see the lady sitting just behind him? He gets his nose crushed and she didn't even blink! :lol:
Smithers
05-03-06, 12:09 PM
i liked how that epidsode had not one but 2 actors who were on Oz.
outside of that it was pretty crappy.
The Yankee Kahuna
05-03-06, 12:55 PM
I bet Jack Bauer blows those missles away with his super breath.
RhodyYanksFan
05-03-06, 09:08 PM
Pretty weak episode. The plot holes are becomming pretty big. Like how does Mike Novick pull off being Chief of Staff for two presidents from two parties?
NYDCYankee
05-03-06, 10:09 PM
Like how does Mike Novick pull off being Chief of Staff for two presidents from two parties?
That has always been my big beef too. Especially since he stabbed Palmer in the back, why would another President trust him.
RhodeyYankee2638
05-03-06, 10:13 PM
Pretty weak episode. The plot holes are becomming pretty big. Like how does Mike Novick pull off being Chief of Staff for two presidents from two parties?
How do you know they are from different parties? Palmer didn't seek re-election, so the original president didn't beat him
NYDCYankee
05-03-06, 10:14 PM
How do you know they are from different parties? Palmer didn't seek re-election, so the original president didn't beat him
Palmer was a Dem, and the other two have been Repubs.
RhodeyYankee2638
05-03-06, 10:38 PM
Palmer was a Dem, and the other two have been Repubs.
did they ever say that?
RhodeyYankee2638
05-03-06, 10:40 PM
From Wikipedia
It is important to note that we do *not* know President Palmer's party affiliation. Though we know that President Palmer is almost certainly from the opposite party of President Keeler and President Logan (because then-Vice President Logan became president when Palmer's general election opponent and successor, John Keeler, died in office), the writers of "24" have assiduously avoided giving us any evidence or hint as to who is from what party.
We don't know if Keeler ran against Palmer, Palmer said he never sought re-election
jonnyc39
05-03-06, 10:44 PM
did they ever say that?No, they didn't.
NYDCYankee
05-03-06, 10:47 PM
From Wikipedia
We don't know if Keeler ran against Palmer, Palmer said he never sought re-election
Keeler and Palmer debated each other.
Keeler and Palmer debated each other.
Was that in season 1? I thought that took place during the California primary. That would make them of the same party, no?
NYDCYankee
05-03-06, 11:03 PM
Was that in season 1? I thought that took place during the California primary. That would make them of the same party, no?
Nope. Umm Season 3 I think. Season 1 he didn't debate anyone. Season 2 Palmer was fishing in Oregon and was called to LA on an emergency. Season 3 I think he debated Keeler, Season 4 we found out that Keeler was President, we didn't really know who was going to be President in Season 4 I remember the camera sneaking around Air Force One and then they showed Keeler.
In season 1, Sherry Palmer's wife briefly mentioned that they were in the Democratic party. I think it was only mentioned just that one time.
NYDCYankee
05-04-06, 12:03 AM
In season 1, Sherry Palmer's wife briefly mentioned that they were in the Democratic party. I think it was only mentioned just that one time.
I think I remember that as well.
NYDCYankee
05-04-06, 12:07 AM
From Wikipedia
We don't know if Keeler ran against Palmer, Palmer said he never sought re-election
It is important to note that we do *not* know President Palmer's party affiliation. Though we know that President Palmer is almost certainly from the opposite party of President Keeler and President Logan (because then-Vice President Logan became president when Palmer's general election opponent and successor, John Keeler, died in office), the writers of "24" have assiduously avoided giving us any evidence or hint as to who is from what party.
Throughout the series, Palmer's role as president is often vital to the successful foiling of terrorist plots. Palmer is seen as a good leader who makes difficult decisions without much hesitation. On several occasions, his intervention as president and the execution of his presidential powers helped the Counter Terrorist Unit.
At the end of Season 3, after a presidential debate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._presidential_election_debates), he decided to cancel his re-election campaign. His opponent in the election, United States Republican Senator (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senator)John Keeler (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Keeler), became president in Season 4. However, after Keeler was incapacitated when Air Force One was shot down by terrorists, Palmer was called in to advise the Acting President (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acting_President_of_the_United_States), Charles Logan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Logan), the former Vice President (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vice_President). Palmer was assassinated in the opening scene of the Season 5 premiere.
RhodeyYankee2638
05-04-06, 07:57 AM
If you can find anywhere in any episode where Palmer is called a democrat and keeler a republican, I'll give you $100. I pointed out wikipedia had the bio's for all the cast members (ie resumes, education) and someone jumped down my throat cause it was never said in any episode
and if you wanna use wikipedia,it says Novik wasn't Palmer's Chief of Staff, just an advisor, he became chief of staff when Keeler came in. He was Palmer's campaign manager in S. 1, then his senior advisor in S. 2
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Novick_%28character%29
RhodyYanksFan
05-04-06, 08:25 AM
I remember Sherry talking about the Democratic party at some point in season one (which i re-watched before 5 started), but I don't remember what episode. If Novick wasn't his chief of staff in season 2, who was?
Regardless of what party he was, Keeler wasn't fit for duty because he was on Unhappily Ever After.
jonnyc39
05-04-06, 09:56 AM
I remember Sherry talking about the Democratic party at some point in season one (which i re-watched before 5 started), but I don't remember what episode. If Novick wasn't his chief of staff in season 2, who was?
Regardless of what party he was, Keeler wasn't fit for duty because he was on Unhappily Ever After.Palmer's brother was his Chief of Staff in Season 3, which took place during the same term.
Edit: From wikipedia:
The brother of President David Palmer, Wayne came in to replace Mike Novick as the President's Chief of Staff, after Palmer had relieved Novick of his duties at the end of Season Two.
Also from wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Palmer_(character)
However, it IS clear that David must be Democratic, due to Sherry's comment that he was "the democratic nomination for President," in an evening episode of the first season. However, party affiliation has NOT been mentioned/refered to since.
RhodyYanksFan
05-04-06, 11:18 AM
Also from wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Palmer_(character)
However, it IS clear that David must be Democratic, due to Sherry's comment that he was "the democratic nomination for President," in an evening episode of the first season. However, party affiliation has NOT been mentioned/refered to since.
I knew it.
Plus, you know the first black President won't be Republican.
Smithers
05-04-06, 11:20 AM
Plus, you know the first black President won't be Republican.
you took the words right out of my mouth.
NYDCYankee
05-04-06, 03:48 PM
I knew it.
Plus, you know the first black President won't be Republican.
Really I think it will be. Because he would get a lot of Republican votes and the crossover Democratic black vote.
jonnyc39
05-08-06, 04:24 PM
So the President orders Jack's plane be shot down. How's Jack getting out of it this time?
So the President orders Jack's plane be shot down. How's Jack getting out of it this time?
Two words: Chuck Norris.
RhodeyYankee2638
05-08-06, 04:33 PM
on thursday, me and my friends are watching 24 straight through without interuption, should be interesting
SheffRocks11
05-08-06, 04:33 PM
on thursday, me and my friends are watching 24 straight through without interuption, should be interesting
I've always wanted to do that.
on thursday, me and my friends are watching 24 straight through without interuption, should be interesting
What if you have to go to the bathroom?
yanksphan
05-08-06, 05:51 PM
What if you have to go to the bathroom?
Just go when Jack goes. GOSH!!
RhodeyYankee2638
05-08-06, 06:43 PM
What if you have to go to the bathroom?
2 minute break between episodes, only time you move from the couch is to get food or to pee. There are strict penalties if you have to ask "what did i miss/what happened"
This sh|t is looking good.
thecaptain
05-08-06, 08:24 PM
Just go when Jack goes. GOSH!!:lol:
RhodeyYankee2638
05-08-06, 08:25 PM
Heller is alive, how could he have died, he is a beast
nhyankeefan
05-08-06, 08:57 PM
Miles is such a little sh*t. I thought that was going way too easy.
RhodeyYankee2638
05-08-06, 09:02 PM
I'd like to personally beat the snot out of Miles
At least Pierce is still alive
RhodyYanksFan
05-08-06, 09:05 PM
on thursday, me and my friends are watching 24 straight through without interuption, should be interesting
A) you have friends?
B) what season?
Miles may be the most annoying asshole character in 24 history. Did he erase the recording or just "steal" it?
Who didn't see Bierko having an inside guy. CTU has the worst screening process ever.
RhodeyYankee2638
05-08-06, 09:07 PM
A) you have friends?
B) what season?
Miles may be the most annoying asshole character in 24 history. Did he erase the recording or just "steal" it?
Who didn't see Bierko having an inside guy. CTU has the worst screening process ever.
A) only you
B) 1st, theey havent seen any yet, im startin them off with #1
they showed the side of the recording in the preview, he took a chip out of the side
Soriambi
05-08-06, 09:14 PM
Arrrrgh. Die, Logan, die.
RhodyYanksFan
05-08-06, 09:15 PM
Arrrrgh. Die, Logan, die.
At this point, I hate Miles more. It's clear Logan is just a weak puppet for the bald guy. Miles is an all out asshole who is only looking out for himself. I really hope they explain how they felt this is for the best of the country before it's over.
I really wish Logan blew his own head off.
CptCrunch
05-08-06, 09:20 PM
At least Miles will probably have his ass handed to him by Jack.
Soriambi
05-08-06, 10:05 PM
At this point, I hate Miles more. It's clear Logan is just a weak puppet for the bald guy. Miles is an all out asshole who is only looking out for himself. I really hope they explain how they felt this is for the best of the country before it's over.
He can die, too. :lol:
And I think the original plan was to let the terrorists take the stuff and blow it up while they were out on the ocean, thus exposing the terrorists and taking a bunch out while they were at it. They mentioned that much earlier in the season. Not sure if there's more to it.
NYDCYankee
05-08-06, 10:42 PM
Looks like I was right all along about Heller still being alive. I think he will be CTU's ace in the hole in their case against Logan.
jonnyc39
05-08-06, 10:46 PM
I really, really hated this episode.
1) No way Heller would survive a crash like that.
2) Bierko escaped? Of course.
3) No chance in hell Logan had the balls to off himself.
4) Miles f-ing things up is, like everything else, way too predictable.
I'm bummed.
A) only you
Aww you guys....*sniff*
Anyone else find Audrey's reaction to her father being alive a little hard to believe. It was as if Curtis told her "I parked your car in the north east corner of the parking garage". She's like "ok".
jonnyc39
05-08-06, 11:50 PM
Aww you guys....*sniff*
Anyone else find Audrey's reaction to her father being alive a little hard to believe. It was as if Curtis told her "I parked your car in the north east corner of the parking garage". She's like "ok".
The guy's car hit the ocean at like 60 MPH. I still cannot believe that the writers actually had him survive that.
NYDCYankee
05-09-06, 12:11 AM
The guy's car hit the ocean at like 60 MPH. I still cannot believe that the writers actually had him survive that.
There was an airbubble, which is why I said he made it out.
jonnyc39
05-09-06, 12:16 AM
There was an airbubble, which is why I said he made it out.An air bubble does you no good when you make impact on a surface that's hard as concrete at 60MPH. In an accident like that you don't die from drowning, you die from the impact.
NYDCYankee
05-09-06, 12:24 AM
An air bubble does you no good when you make impact on a surface that's hard as concrete at 60MPH. In an accident like that you don't die from drowning, you die from the impact.
Maybe he was in a very sturdy government issued car, that could withstand the impact.
daverave
05-09-06, 12:35 AM
An air bubble does you no good when you make impact on a surface that's hard as concrete at 60MPH. In an accident like that you don't die from drowning, you die from the impact.
how do we know he didn't do the old roll-out-of-the-car-just-before-it-goes-off-the-cliff trick?
how do we know he didn't do the old roll-out-of-the-car-just-before-it-goes-off-the-cliff trick?
Exactly! Who cares about air bubbles, and impact with the water, he was already out of the car...
Did he erase the recording or just "steal" it? Shouldn't make a difference since Jack made a backup copy before giving it to Chloe..
...oops, come to think of it, he forgot to do that.....AGAIN! :looking: Dabgummit, he always forgets to make a backup. :)
RhodeyYankee2638
05-09-06, 08:29 AM
Shouldn't make a difference since Jack made a backup copy before giving it to Chloe..
...oops, come to think of it, he forgot to do that.....AGAIN! :looking: Dabgummit, he always forgets to make a backup. :)
If i had just done all that crap to get the recording, I would've at least had an agent guard the door
Jack doesn't have time to make backups. His backup is Miles, who he'll just beat up to get the information.
Bozidar
05-09-06, 09:18 AM
Shouldn't make a difference since Jack made a backup copy before giving it to Chloe..
...oops, come to think of it, he forgot to do that.....AGAIN! :looking: Dabgummit, he always forgets to make a backup. :)Seriously, this is one of the STUPIDEST plot lines i've ever seen on this show.
Why didn't he simply broadcast the recording to CTU over his phone so that they had it?
Why didn't he broadcast it over the airplane's radio?
If you want the message to get out, get it out..
And then not making a backup copy???? Not putting an agent in charge of protecting it? (not that said agent wouldn't be a double-presidential-agent anyway)
Just stupid, and annoyingly stupid..
Bozidar
05-09-06, 09:18 AM
Jack doesn't have time to make backups. His backup is Miles, who he'll just beat up to get the information.miles doesn't have any information.. he's just a bitch
he's going to have to go after henderson
Soriambi
05-09-06, 09:27 AM
By the way, like Boz said, it was completely and totally unfeasible that Karen didn't ask Jack to hear the recording. She's been upset because she's trusting her instincts and hasn't actually heard the evidence yet, and then when Jack walks in, (or even when he has it on the plane) she doesn't even ask to hear it? That was unexcusable writing, in my opinion, and if it's because it has something to do with the storyline (like Karen thinks Jack was lying when the tape is nothing) it would be very annoying. Since the rest of the writing is so good, I'm willing to look past it, but they really screwed up there.
Soriambi
05-09-06, 09:29 AM
And then not making a backup copy???? Not putting an agent in charge of protecting it? (not that said agent wouldn't be a double-presidential-agent anyway)
That part I didn't see as quite as bad. I believe Curtis was in the room, and they weren't supposed to let anyone other than Karen, Bill, Miles, Jack, and Chloe into the room, if I'm not mistaken. If anyone else had been the one to take it, I'm sure that Curtis would have stopped them. I could be wrong about Curtis going into the room, but I'm 99% sure that I remember him going in.
By the way, like Boz said, it was completely and totally unfeasible that Karen didn't ask Jack to hear the recording. She's been upset because she's trusting her instincts and hasn't actually heard the evidence yet, and then when Jack walks in, (or even when he has it on the plane) she doesn't even ask to hear it? That was unexcusable writing, in my opinion, and if it's because it has something to do with the storyline (like Karen thinks Jack was lying when the tape is nothing) it would be very annoying. Since the rest of the writing is so good, I'm willing to look past it, but they really screwed up there.Yeah, when he asked Chloe to work on it alone, I thought it was odd that Karen didn't immediately ask to hear it. I would have. It has to be a plot-line issue.
Bozidar
05-09-06, 09:44 AM
That part I didn't see as quite as bad. I believe Curtis was in the room, and they weren't supposed to let anyone other than Karen, Bill, Miles, Jack, and Chloe into the room, if I'm not mistaken. If anyone else had been the one to take it, I'm sure that Curtis would have stopped them. I could be wrong about Curtis going into the room, but I'm 99% sure that I remember him going in.Chloe was alone in the room.
Bozidar
05-09-06, 09:46 AM
Yeah, when he asked Chloe to work on alone, I thought it was odd that Karen didn't immediately ask to hear it. I would have. It has to be a plot-line issue.You and sori are 100% correct. Also -- how come it wasn't immediately digitized and put onto the network in a safe location? Why wasn't a copy put onto a flash drive in Jack's back pocket? Why didn't they put it on one of the 1000 pda's they seem to have?
When they write so technologically advanced, they should try to keep the plot someone reasonable.
I backup pictures of my child, and these guys don't back up a copy of the most important audio recording in the world? REALLY bad writing mistake.. and ya know what else? It's a c0ck-tease.
The last 10 episodes have been about that recording, and now it's erased by limp-dick Miles? It was that easy? You mean Henderson and his team didn't have to get involved, he didn't have to put it on a plane and all that bull? Just Miles? It invalidates all the episodes between when the recording was found and leading up to this one. It makes it all fluff because they couldn't think of something better, IMO.
Can we get back to the days of Jack's family or someone else in danger? Can we shoot his daughter's boyfriend or something, or torture some information outta ponyboy??
RhodeyYankee2638
05-09-06, 10:18 AM
The worst subplot was when they torchd Seyed Ali. Somehow, in 5 minutes, they got a video feed from Saudi Arabia, rounded up Seyed's family and told the Saudi's to fake kill the son. I was impreessed
You and sori are 100% correct. Also -- how come it wasn't immediately digitized and put onto the network in a safe location? Why wasn't a copy put onto a flash drive in Jack's back pocket? Why didn't they put it on one of the 1000 pda's they seem to have?
When they write so technologically advanced, they should try to keep the plot someone reasonable.
I backup pictures of my child, and these guys don't back up a copy of the most important audio recording in the world? REALLY bad writing mistake.. and ya know what else? It's a c0ck-tease.
The last 10 episodes have been about that recording, and now it's erased by limp-dick Miles? It was that easy? You mean Henderson and his team didn't have to get involved, he didn't have to put it on a plane and all that bull? Just Miles? It invalidates all the episodes between when the recording was found and leading up to this one. It makes it all fluff because they couldn't think of something better, IMO.
Can we get back to the days of Jack's family or someone else in danger? Can we shoot his daughter's boyfriend or something, or torture some information outta ponyboy??I really miss the torture. I want to see some more torture.
jonnyc39
05-09-06, 11:59 AM
The last 10 episodes have been about that recording, and now it's erased by limp-dick Miles? It was that easy? You mean Henderson and his team didn't have to get involved, he didn't have to put it on a plane and all that bull? Just Miles? It invalidates all the episodes between when the recording was found and leading up to this one. It makes it all fluff because they couldn't think of something better, IMO.It's for the reasons you list here that I've got to believe Miles doesn't erase the recording. I'd guess that he ends up coughing it back up.
Bozidar
05-09-06, 12:21 PM
It's for the reasons you list here that I've got to believe Miles doesn't erase the recording. I'd guess that he ends up coughing it back up.I hope so, i REALLY do, because I want to see that guy blow the top of his head off and the SS guy nail his old lady..
But i don't think the recording is coming back until Henderson himself made a backup.. because obviously Jack is too dumb to.
Smithers
05-09-06, 12:22 PM
Seriously, this is one of the STUPIDEST plot lines i've ever seen on this show.
Why didn't he simply broadcast the recording to CTU over his phone so that they had it?
Why didn't he broadcast it over the airplane's radio?
If you want the message to get out, get it out..
because they can't prove that it's a real, undoctored recording on the airplane. it had to get to CTU to prove it's for real.
and i can't believe everybody is complaining about the damn recording and not the fact that they LANDED A F**KING PLANE ON THE FREEWAY!
Bozidar
05-09-06, 12:27 PM
and i can't believe everybody is complaining about the damn recording and not the fact that they LANDED A F**KING PLANE ON THE FREEWAY!Actually, in the years after world war 2, part of the plan in the highway projects was to allow for exactly that. They wanted straight and long stretches of highway required every certain amount of miles apart, in case of things like this, or some sort of invastion where we could have make-shift air strips all over the country.
Now, landing a 747 is different than a prop plane, but as a non-expert I don't see why it can't be done.
Also, the recording has been critical to the last 10 episodes, in plot importance the landing of the plane is miniscule by comparison.
Actually, in the years after world war 2, part of the plan in the highway projects was to allow for exactly that. They wanted straight and long stretches of highway required every certain amount of miles apart, in case of things like this, or some sort of invastion where we could have make-shift air strips all over the country.
I have heard that this is an urban legend, and is not true.
Re backing up the recording. They could only verify authenticity with the original though, right? If they tried to use a copy to nail Logan, people could argue that the copy was compromised.
Bozidar
05-09-06, 01:31 PM
Re backing up the recording. They could only verify authenticity with the original though, right? If they tried to use a copy to nail Logan, people could argue that the copy was compromised.Audio recordings, like anything else, are just ones and zeroes. They could have copied it as SOON as it got to CTU, or at least broadcast an unverified version via phone to begin analysis before Jack brought it in.
Hell, given the equipment they have, Jack probably could have digitized it on the plane and emailed it to them..
Bozidar
05-09-06, 01:32 PM
I have heard that this is an urban legend, and is not true.I looked it up at www.snopes.com (http://www.snopes.com), and you're right. However, they do note that other countries do indeed use their highways for landing fields -- so the idea is still very plausible.
jonnyc39
05-09-06, 01:33 PM
I have heard that this is an urban legend, and is not true.I believe you are correct, as does this guy:
http://www.tfhrc.gov/pubrds/mayjun00/onemileinfive.htm
Soriambi
05-09-06, 03:12 PM
No, they probably couldn't authenticate it without the original, but if I was her, I would want to HEAR it to prove that it actually exists and I haven't been helping a guy who actually is a bad guy. It just makes absolutely no sense. (And I'll take your word on the Chloe thing, Boz-I stand corrected. That just adds to the stupidity.)
However, Miles wasn't working for the President-he only found out about this very recently, so I think that the whole Henderson thing made sense. However, in the teaser for next week, Jack was screaming at Henderson to tell him where (it was implied) the guys that Logan was talking to are. That shows that they learned something at some point, and Jack was moving around freely, so it doesn't seem like we're back to "Jack in peril, running from CTU because now Hayes doesn't believe him," because that would be very dumb after she didn't even ask to hear it.
RhodyYanksFan
05-09-06, 05:07 PM
because they can't prove that it's a real, undoctored recording on the airplane. it had to get to CTU to prove it's for real.
and i can't believe everybody is complaining about the damn recording and not the fact that they LANDED A F**KING PLANE ON THE FREEWAY!
At least there weren't any snakes on the plane.
Smithers
05-10-06, 07:14 AM
At least there weren't any snakes on the plane.
i think coffee just came outta my nose.
savafan
05-11-06, 08:26 AM
i think coffee just came outta my nose.
I hope that you were drinking coffee, otherwise, that's just bizarre. :D
RhodeyYankee2638
05-12-06, 11:08 AM
just re-watched the entire first season 19 hours straight. its so much more realisitic. Jack actually eats, others go to the bathroom, George Mason's cell goes dead after a while. just the little things
Smithers
05-12-06, 11:14 AM
does anybody think this season has gone south? i think it's really starting to get out of hand. it started off so strong with killing everyone and CTU getting gassed. i'll even accept having the president involved. but the airplane and the recording . . . i really just want the ending.
every season has had an AMAZING ending, with the exception of season 2, IMO. the season 3 ending is up there as one of the greatest pieces of television i've ever seen. i'm just hoping this one can match up with the others.
RhodyYanksFan
05-12-06, 11:18 AM
does anybody think this season has gone south? i think it's really starting to get out of hand. it started off so strong with killing everyone and CTU getting gassed. i'll even accept having the president involved. but the airplane and the recording . . . i really just want the ending.
every season has had an AMAZING ending, with the exception of season 2, IMO. the season 3 ending is up there as one of the greatest pieces of television i've ever seen. i'm just hoping this one can match up with the others.
Season 2 ended with Palmer getting "hit" by the lesbo assassin and colapsing. Big cliffhanger.
I forget how season 3 ended, but I don't recall a big shock like that.
RhodeyYankee2638
05-12-06, 11:25 AM
I forget how season 3 ended, but I don't recall a big shock like that.
Lets just say is Chase used to be ambidexterous, he isn't anymore
Smithers
05-12-06, 11:25 AM
Season 2 ended with Palmer getting "hit" by the lesbo assassin and colapsing. Big cliffhanger.
I forget how season 3 ended, but I don't recall a big shock like that.
Chase's arm. nuff said.
RhodyYanksFan
05-12-06, 11:26 AM
Chase's arm. nuff said.
Whatever...Chase losing his hand in the line of duty isn't as thrilling or cliff-hanging as the President collapsing after being poisioned.
Bozidar
05-12-06, 11:26 AM
I'm pretty frustrated with the whole recording thing, and can't wait for it to be over and the Pres to shoot himself.
They've done better seasons..
RhodyYanksFan
05-12-06, 11:29 AM
I'm pretty frustrated with the whole recording thing, and can't wait for it to be over and the Pres to shoot himself.
They've done better seasons..
Seriously. It seems like they had only 20 hours of story that they're stretching to 24 with Miles and Bierko escaping (surprise surprise).
Smithers
05-12-06, 11:30 AM
Whatever...Chase losing his hand in the line of duty isn't as thrilling or cliff-hanging as the President collapsing after being poisioned.
no way! (covered for the unfortunate souls who haven't seen season 3) jack taking the fire ax to his arm with seconds before it killed them both. and then at the end jack getting into his car and bursting into tears. that had so much tension and emotion in an hour it physically hurt afterward.
RhodeyYankee2638
05-12-06, 11:37 AM
no way! (covered for the unfortunate souls who haven't seen season 3) jack taking the fire ax to his arm with seconds before it killed them both. and then at the end jack getting into his car and bursting into tears. that had so much tension and emotion in an hour it physically hurt afterward.
it also didnt help that he was doin the yayo
RhodyYanksFan
05-12-06, 11:45 AM
it also didnt help that he was doin the yayo
Remember - Jack Bauer wasn't addicted to herion...herion was addicted to Jack Bauer.
savafan
05-12-06, 01:44 PM
no way! (covered for the unfortunate souls who haven't seen season 3) jack taking the fire ax to his arm with seconds before it killed them both. and then at the end jack getting into his car and bursting into tears. that had so much tension and emotion in an hour it physically hurt afterward.
You're right, it was pretty gut wrenching.
Remember - Jack Bauer wasn't addicted to herion...herion was addicted to Jack Bauer.:roflmao:
The Yankee Kahuna
05-12-06, 01:56 PM
no way! (covered for the unfortunate souls who haven't seen season 3) jack taking the fire ax to his arm with seconds before it killed them both. and then at the end jack getting into his car and bursting into tears. that had so much tension and emotion in an hour it physically hurt afterward.
Argh I missed that episode. I've been wanting to see it ever since but I still haven't found it on neither A&E or WGN. :mad:
jonnyc39
05-12-06, 01:59 PM
Argh I missed that episode. I've been wanting to see it ever since but I still haven't found it on neither A&E or WGN. :mad:
Go down to Blockbuster and rent Season 3, Disc 6 for like $4.
RhodyYanksFan
05-12-06, 02:02 PM
Go down to Blockbuster and rent Season 3, Disc 6 for like $4.
Seriously. There's no excuse to not being able to see movies/tv shows nowadays.
Fox is airing Bush's speech from 8 to 8:20 (EDT), and pushing Prison Break and 24 back 20 minutes, so set your VCRs accordingly.
My DVR shows it as being on 9:20 to 10:20, so some cable operators have already reflected the change, but check to make sure.
I'm actually taping from 8:10 to 11:20 (for PB and 24) to be safe...
SheffRocks11
05-14-06, 09:16 AM
Fox is airing Bush's speech from 8 to 8:20 (EDT), and pushing Prison Break and 24 back 20 minutes, so set your VCRs accordingly.
My DVR shows it as being on 9:20 to 10:20, so some cable operators have already reflected the change, but check to make sure.
I'm actually taping from 8:10 to 11:20 (for PB and 24) to be safe...
stupid bush...
jonnyc39
05-15-06, 04:04 PM
Three hours left...just noticed this on Fox's 24 website:
3:59 A.M.
Miles goes into the conference room where Chloe is working on the tape. He leans on the table next to her and innocently asks if she will be ready for the teleconference. Chloe cannot see that he is holding a black device that flashes next to the tape recorder. Satisfied with what he has done, Miles leaves.
We all assumed that Miles stole the tape - but if I'm reading this recap correctly, it sounds like he did something to compromise/destroy it.
Three hours left...just noticed this on Fox's 24 website:
We all assumed that Miles stole the tape - but if I'm reading this recap correctly, it sounds like he did something to compromise/destroy it.I didn't see him steal it. He was trying to corrupt the data with the flashing red light thingie.
RhodeyYankee2638
05-15-06, 07:11 PM
Will next week be the 2 hour season finale?
Will next week be the 2 hour season finale?Yes it will.
RhodeyYankee2638
05-15-06, 07:18 PM
Yes it will.
This is gonna kill me, another summer without 24
This is gonna kill me, another summer without 24Yeah....it's going to suck major behind.
RhodeyYankee2638
05-15-06, 07:21 PM
Yeah....it's going to suck major behind.
im thinking about buying seasons 2-4 on DVD and rewatching them
jonnyc39
05-15-06, 07:53 PM
I didn't see him steal it. He was trying to corrupt the data with the flashing red light thingie.
Huh, I completely missed that.
RhodeyYankee2638
05-15-06, 07:55 PM
Huh, I completely missed that.
I thought he removed a memory card from the side of the recording
Huh, I completely missed that.He bent over the desk next to the recording and in the palm of his hand was something that was flashing red. He talked to Chloe while holding it and then after a few seconds, left.
In fact, when everyone here was talking about him stealing the recording, I thought I missed something.
RhodeyYankee2638
05-15-06, 08:54 PM
Martha has some HUGE BALLS
RhodeyYankee2638
05-15-06, 08:57 PM
gdn, you need 2 people to prove treason right? Theres at least 4 that have witnessed Logan commit it : The 2 Hellers, Pierce and Jack
Soriambi
05-15-06, 09:21 PM
Good episode. I can't wait for next week. :)
The teaser for next week looked good. Bauer with Logan at gunpoint. :D
gdn, you need 2 people to prove treason right? Theres at least 4 that have witnessed Logan commit it : The 2 Hellers, Pierce and JackTo prove treason? I'd imagine you'd need more than one person to provide evidence....
Great episode, btw :D I can't wait for the finale next week.
To prove treason? I'd imagine you'd need more than one person to provide evidence....
Great episode, btw :D I can't wait for the finale next week.
Aren't you a lawyer?
RhodeyYankee2638
05-15-06, 10:18 PM
Aren't you a lawyer?
lol, its in the constitution, its 2, article III section 3
NYDCYankee
05-16-06, 12:04 AM
I thought he removed a memory card from the side of the recording
Nah. He had some magnetic eraser thing that corrupted the recording.
I agree, good episode tonight though I wish they would have told us what the target was for Bierko's attack with the sub.
I hope the German guy shows up and kicks Jack's ass.
NYDCYankee
05-16-06, 12:29 AM
I hope the German guy shows up and kicks Jack's ass.
You know that German guy is Desmond, call him by name.
I have a feeling he will make a surprise appearance in both season finale's.
Interesting, but nerdy, article about the 24 clock:
http://www.panopticist.com/archives/197.html
Aren't you a lawyer?Yeah and I see treason cases all the time....
jonnyc39
05-16-06, 08:22 AM
Once Bierko escaped I had started to believe (hope) that he was going to target the President's estate. That would have been poetic justice.
RhodeyYankee2638
05-16-06, 09:14 AM
Once Bierko escaped I had started to believe (hope) that he was going to target the President's estate. That would have been poetic justice.
Nah, the season woulda been over. Jack would've let him do it
I have an awful awful feeling that Mike Novik is in on the conspiracy
jonnyc39
05-16-06, 09:24 AM
Nah, the season woulda been over. Jack would've let him do it
I have an awful awful feeling that Mike Novik is in on the conspiracyIt would have been over, but they could have waited until next week for it to unfold, in which case the season ends anyway.
Why do you get that feeling about Novik? He's seemed pretty clueless every time he's approached Logan about what's going on.
RhodeyYankee2638
05-16-06, 09:39 AM
Why do you get that feeling about Novik? He's seemed pretty clueless every time he's approached Logan about what's going on.
Thats exactly why I think he is in on it. either that, or when Martha Logan goes to talk to him, he hops on board the Logan Express. Martha was shown with her husband again on the next epsiode. If I were her, I woulda driven Pierce to CTU.
There is plenty of evidence without the tape to implicate the President, or to at least impeach him. If Novik is innocent, he can attest to his odd behavior (shoot down the plane, kill Jack Bauer). But then of course there is Secretary Heller, who heard the tape, and Aaron Pierce, not to mention, Mrs. Logan, all of which would probably flip
boo_427
05-16-06, 10:01 AM
No way Mike is in on it. They have had us thinking that angle for several seasons now.
I think Martha is going to spill the beans on what Logan has done.
Does anyone think Henderson was telling the truth to Jack about deleting the files and recovering them or was he trying to cover up for himself?
Soriambi
05-16-06, 10:06 AM
I really don't think that Mike has anything to do with it, but maybe that's just wishful thinking. I've seen nothing to suggest that he might have anything to do with it-in fact, he's been privately trying to find out what the hell is going on, and I don't think they'd throw that at us just to throw it at us, as the next two episodes (next week) could easily be Jack clearing the submarine and hunting down the President and those guys who he's working for. I don't think that they need another twist at the Mike being in on it level, which would be pretty big.
As for Henderson, I'm not sure whether he was just covering for himself or not. It's possible. All (or at least most) of our questions will be answered next week, though. :D
RhodeyYankee2638
05-16-06, 10:07 AM
Does anyone think Henderson was telling the truth to Jack about deleting the files and recovering them or was he trying to cover up for himself?
I think he was telling the truth. I knew it the minute he started saying that stuff "Is there a back door" Henderson knew that there were 50 CTU agents surrounding the building. Chloe did get info from the thumb drive, which obviously isn't protected with a state of the art firewall. I think Jack/Curtis screwed up. Why would they go in to arrest them when they could just get them at a door?
jonnyc39
05-16-06, 10:10 AM
I think he was telling the truth. I knew it the minute he started saying that stuff "Is there a back door" Henderson knew that there were 50 CTU agents surrounding the building. Chloe did get info from the thumb drive, which obviously isn't protected with a state of the art firewall. I think Jack/Curtis screwed up. Why would they go in to arrest them when they could just get them at a door?I don't think they screwed up - I think it's stupid of Henderson not to tell Jack that was his plan before he went in. Henderson asked the guy for a gun - he gave every indication that he was going to be hostile.
RhodeyYankee2638
05-16-06, 10:18 AM
I don't think they screwed up - I think it's stupid of Henderson not to tell Jack that was his plan before he went in. Henderson asked the guy for a gun - he gave every indication that he was going to be hostile.
They definitly screwed up, did you see the look on Jack's face, he knew it. Henderson is a bad ass, but theres no way he taks on 50 CTU agents with a pistol. How was Henderson going to get the dude to take down his firewall? And if he was going to be a hostile, he wouldn't have shot and missed an open CTU agent by 15 feet then hide in the kitchen
Dannman103
05-16-06, 10:19 AM
I really don't think that Mike has anything to do with it, but maybe that's just wishful thinking. I've seen nothing to suggest that he might have anything to do with it-in fact, he's been privately trying to find out what the hell is going on, and I don't think they'd throw that at us just to throw it at us, as the next two episodes (next week) could easily be Jack clearing the submarine and hunting down the President and those guys who he's working for. I don't think that they need another twist at the Mike being in on it level, which would be pretty big.
As for Henderson, I'm not sure whether he was just covering for himself or not. It's possible. All (or at least most) of our questions will be answered next week, though. :D
i don't think Mike is in on it either...he came just short of confronting the president about everything a few episodes back, and i feel like he really doesn't know what is going on
Dannman103
05-16-06, 10:19 AM
and by the way, its nice to see aaron alive and kicking ass again...thought he was dead a few weeks back when he got "transferred"
jonnyc39
05-16-06, 10:20 AM
They definitly screwed up, did you see the look on Jack's face, he knew it. Henderson is a bad ass, but theres no way he taks on 50 CTU agents with a pistol. How was Henderson going to get the dude to take down his firewall? And if he was going to be a hostile, he wouldn't have shot and missed an open CTU agent by 15 feet then hide in the kitchenI totally agree with this, except I believe Henderson f-ed up by not telling Jack his plan before he went in.
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