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nnysiny
11-19-05, 04:57 PM
he will set up for Mo....?

http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/story/9052221
Jace
11-19-05, 05:00 PM
he will set up for Mo....?

http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/story/9052221

Minor league player
I Love Wang
11-19-05, 05:00 PM
Who the heck is Jose Veras?
Jace
11-19-05, 05:07 PM
Who the heck is Jose Veras?

Pitcher in Dominican Winter League
I Love Wang
11-19-05, 05:13 PM
Pitcher in Dominican Winter League

Is he a GOOD pitcher in the Dominican Winter League?
bardos
11-19-05, 05:14 PM
Funny sort of minor league stats. whip constantly well under 1.00, gives up very few hits, but his era his usually well up there above 5.00.
hardrain
11-19-05, 05:15 PM
Set up for MO????

" Veras was on the Texas Rangers' roster last year before being reassigned to the team's minor league camp."

He couldn't make the Rangers' pitching roster and he's supposed to set up for Mo? What's the writer of this article smokin? :eek:
Panamaniac42
11-19-05, 05:25 PM
wtf??

Uggy Urbina has a better chance of "filling Gordon's role" ...and from the looks of things, Uggy isn't really going anywhere anytime soon.


http://espn-att.starwave.com/media/mlb/2005/1118/photo/a_urbina_412.jpg
23and2
11-19-05, 05:31 PM
He could be one of those guys who starts off with great stuff but tires in later innings. I see he was mostly used as a starter in the minors... Could be a good bullpen candidate.. and he's young.
23and2
11-19-05, 05:37 PM
Some info on him:

http://www.oklahomaredhawks.com/roster/?players=1&player_181=1

Weight: 237 pounds
Height: 6' 5"
Born: October 20, 1980
Throws: Righty

In 2004, with AAA Durham, "went 4-1 with a 3.16 ERA as a reliever for Durham, while going 2-4, 7.04 as a starter...twice went four straight outings without allowing a run, spanning 6.1 innings July 25-Aug. 4 and 8.2 IP Aug. 11-27."

4-1 with a 3.16 ERA in relief
2-4 with a 7.04 ERA as a starter

Sounds like a big strong kid who perhaps has some good short inning stuff.
YankeeStripes
11-19-05, 05:39 PM
that Urbina picture reminds me of that movie Major League, when Wild Thing is like "I'm not sure if I can make it by then" when asked if he could report to spring training on march 1st.
hellonewman
11-19-05, 05:40 PM
Jayson Stark has his "The Yankees screwed up by trading Jose Veras" article already written and waiting for when the Yankees eventually deal this guy. He's just waiting to find out which hand Veras doesn't throw with.
Mr. Mxylsplk
11-19-05, 05:41 PM
Some info on him:
4-1 with a 3.16 ERA in relief
2-4 with a 7.04 ERA as a starter

Man, he must really run out of gas.
23and2
11-19-05, 05:50 PM
(Not comparing).. but Mo struggled as a starter (5.51 ERA in 1995) but was effective in relief in his next season (2.09 ERA). Who knows, hopefully a scout saw something in Veras.... Keeping my fingers and toes crossed here.
Panamaniac42
11-19-05, 05:57 PM
(Not comparing).. but Mo struggled as a starter (5.51 ERA in 1995) but was effective in relief in his next season (2.09 ERA). Who knows, hopefully a scout saw something in Veras.... Keeping my fingers and toes crossed here.

agreed.

but whoever wrote the article essentially saying the Yankees got their setup man, is either a prophet or seriously misinformed.
23and2
11-19-05, 05:57 PM
Here are his 2005 season totals for the Oklahoma RedHawks (as a reliever):

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W (http://www.oklahomaredhawks.com/stats/index.php?autoload=teamstats_pitching&sort=w&page=1&team_id=238)



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L (http://www.oklahomaredhawks.com/stats/index.php?autoload=teamstats_pitching&sort=l&page=1&team_id=238)



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G (http://www.oklahomaredhawks.com/stats/index.php?autoload=teamstats_pitching&sort=g&page=1&team_id=238)



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GS (http://www.oklahomaredhawks.com/stats/index.php?autoload=teamstats_pitching&sort=gs&page=1&team_id=238)



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CG (http://www.oklahomaredhawks.com/stats/index.php?autoload=teamstats_pitching&sort=cg&page=1&team_id=238)



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SHO (http://www.oklahomaredhawks.com/stats/index.php?autoload=teamstats_pitching&sort=sho&page=1&team_id=238)



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SV (http://www.oklahomaredhawks.com/stats/index.php?autoload=teamstats_pitching&sort=sv&page=1&team_id=238)



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IP (http://www.oklahomaredhawks.com/stats/index.php?autoload=teamstats_pitching&sort=ip&page=1&team_id=238)



</TD><TD vAlign=center width="7%">
H (http://www.oklahomaredhawks.com/stats/index.php?autoload=teamstats_pitching&sort=h&page=1&team_id=238)



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J Veras



</TD><TD vAlign=center width="4%">
3



</TD><TD vAlign=center width="4%">
5



</TD><TD vAlign=center width="9%">
3.79



</TD><TD vAlign=center width="11%">
.375



</TD><TD vAlign=center width="9%">
1.56



</TD><TD vAlign=center width="5%">
57



</TD><TD vAlign=center width="5%">
0



</TD><TD vAlign=center width="4%">
0



</TD><TD vAlign=center width="5%">
0



</TD><TD vAlign=center width="5%">
24



</TD><TD vAlign=center width="11%">
61.2



</TD><TD vAlign=center width="7%">
63



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BK (http://www.oklahomaredhawks.com/stats/index.php?autoload=teamstats_pitching&sort=bk&page=2&team_id=238)
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WP (http://www.oklahomaredhawks.com/stats/index.php?autoload=teamstats_pitching&sort=wp&page=2&team_id=238)
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AVG (http://www.oklahomaredhawks.com/stats/index.php?autoload=teamstats_pitching&sort=avg&page=2&team_id=238)
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G (http://www.oklahomaredhawks.com/stats/index.php?autoload=teamstats_pitching&sort=gf&page=2&team_id=238)
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AB (http://www.oklahomaredhawks.com/stats/index.php?autoload=teamstats_pitching&sort=ab&page=2&team_id=238)
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TPA (http://www.oklahomaredhawks.com/stats/index.php?autoload=teamstats_pitching&sort=tpa&page=2&team_id=238)
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J Veras
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27
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26
</TD><TD vAlign=center width="6%">
4
</TD><TD vAlign=center width="6%">
72
</TD><TD vAlign=center width="6%">
33
</TD><TD vAlign=center width="4%">
2
</TD><TD vAlign=center width="4%">
5
</TD><TD vAlign=center width="6%">
2
</TD><TD vAlign=center width="10%">
.266
</TD><TD vAlign=center width="6%">
4
</TD><TD vAlign=center width="8%">
237
</TD><TD vAlign=center width="8%">
276
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Yankees13
11-19-05, 06:03 PM
Here are his 2005 season totals for the Oklahoma RedHawks (as a reliever):

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ERA (http://www.oklahomaredhawks.com/stats/index.php?autoload=teamstats_pitching&sort=era&page=1&team_id=238)






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G (http://www.oklahomaredhawks.com/stats/index.php?autoload=teamstats_pitching&sort=g&page=1&team_id=238)






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GS (http://www.oklahomaredhawks.com/stats/index.php?autoload=teamstats_pitching&sort=gs&page=1&team_id=238)






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CG (http://www.oklahomaredhawks.com/stats/index.php?autoload=teamstats_pitching&sort=cg&page=1&team_id=238)






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SHO (http://www.oklahomaredhawks.com/stats/index.php?autoload=teamstats_pitching&sort=sho&page=1&team_id=238)






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SV (http://www.oklahomaredhawks.com/stats/index.php?autoload=teamstats_pitching&sort=sv&page=1&team_id=238)






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IP (http://www.oklahomaredhawks.com/stats/index.php?autoload=teamstats_pitching&sort=ip&page=1&team_id=238)






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H (http://www.oklahomaredhawks.com/stats/index.php?autoload=teamstats_pitching&sort=h&page=1&team_id=238)






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3






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5






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3.79






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.375






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1.56






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57






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0






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0






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0






</td><td valign="center" width="5%">
24






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61.2






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63






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R (http://www.oklahomaredhawks.com/stats/index.php?autoload=teamstats_pitching&sort=r&page=2&team_id=238)

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ER (http://www.oklahomaredhawks.com/stats/index.php?autoload=teamstats_pitching&sort=er&page=2&team_id=238)

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BK (http://www.oklahomaredhawks.com/stats/index.php?autoload=teamstats_pitching&sort=bk&page=2&team_id=238)

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WP (http://www.oklahomaredhawks.com/stats/index.php?autoload=teamstats_pitching&sort=wp&page=2&team_id=238)

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G (http://www.oklahomaredhawks.com/stats/index.php?autoload=teamstats_pitching&sort=gf&page=2&team_id=238)

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AB (http://www.oklahomaredhawks.com/stats/index.php?autoload=teamstats_pitching&sort=ab&page=2&team_id=238)

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TPA (http://www.oklahomaredhawks.com/stats/index.php?autoload=teamstats_pitching&sort=tpa&page=2&team_id=238)

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J Veras

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27

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26

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4

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72

</td><td valign="center" width="6%">
33

</td><td valign="center" width="4%">
2

</td><td valign="center" width="4%">
5

</td><td valign="center" width="6%">
2

</td><td valign="center" width="10%">
.266

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47

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237

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276

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Those stats paint a different picture than the rest of his career stats. This is a mysterious pitcher to say the least.
yanksphan
11-19-05, 06:12 PM
SANTO DOMINGO, Dominican Republic -- Relief pitcher Jose Veras said he has signed a one-year contract with the New York Yankees.

The Dominican right-hander refused to divulge the value of the deal, but said Friday he's excited to join the bullpen with Yankees closer Mariano Rivera. "I feel proud that the Yankees have signed me to help set the table for Mariano Rivera. That's something very important to me," Veras told the Associated Press.

Anyone else think it's kind of weird that this "signing" is only being reported by.....Jose Veras????!?? :thatsodd:

Kind of like last year when we signed Koo....according to Koo...:wtf:
hellonewman
11-19-05, 06:17 PM
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Anyone else think it's kind of weird that this "signing" is only being reported by.....Jose Veras????!?? :thatsodd:Good point. I'm starting to get visions of Jon Lovitz: "I just signed with ... the Yankees! Yeah, that's it ... I was just telling it to my wife ... Morgan Fairchild."
ring403
11-19-05, 06:22 PM
He couldn't make the Rangers' pitching roster and he's supposed to set up for Mo? What's the writer of this article smokin? :eek:
It's not just the writer who might be smoking something.

"I feel proud that the Yankees have signed me to help set the table for Mariano Rivera. That's something very important to me," Veras told the Associated Press.
Yankees13
11-19-05, 06:28 PM
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Anyone else think it's kind of weird that this "signing" is only being reported by.....Jose Veras????!?? :thatsodd:

Kind of like last year when we signed Koo....according to Koo...:wtf:
I was thinking that too.
hardrain
11-19-05, 06:32 PM
It's not just the writer who might be smoking something.

You're right. The guy is delusional.
DiMaggio5CF
11-19-05, 06:42 PM
Looks like the Yankees are trying to catch Aaron Small in a bottle.

Maybe they should go check Dae-Sung Koo's performance before they decide to invest in a guy who has proven absolutely nothing at the Major League level.

When a guy comes over with no experience, he has to have phenominal numbers to suggest that he has a shot here. This guy's numbers are average at best.

Take a flier on a guy? Sure.

Count on him to be a part of the bullpen? Hell no.
Ghost of Thurman
11-19-05, 06:55 PM
You know it's almost Thanksgiving when the Yankees signing Jose Veras can trigger 23 posts in less than 2 hours!
nyyanksfan20
11-19-05, 06:55 PM
Seems like a rather harmless move.
Sam18
11-19-05, 07:03 PM
Ok what?
hellonewman
11-19-05, 07:05 PM
Look at the bright side — if the Tampa contingent were still in charge, they probably would have signed Quilvio Veras.
nyg02005
11-19-05, 07:10 PM
This player must have been recommended by pena.
Seamonk
11-19-05, 07:12 PM
We're saved!!!


:D
38Special
11-19-05, 07:32 PM
This is just one of a million minor league signings done every year. He may not even stick with Columbus
BroadwayBomber55
11-19-05, 08:20 PM
I say Jose Veras is another Felix Escalona, a career minor leaguer bouncing around.
Tifoso
11-19-05, 08:21 PM
We're saved!!!


:D

:lol:
BroadwayBomber55
11-19-05, 08:24 PM
We're saved!!!


:D

:lol: :lol: :roflmao: YOU WISH!
Sultans of Swing
11-19-05, 08:56 PM
I'm glad Boston KNOWS we're serious now! :2thumbs:
StatenIslandYankee
11-19-05, 08:59 PM
meh ...
Kulish29
11-19-05, 09:07 PM
How old is he?
Rich
11-19-05, 09:15 PM
He's cannon fodder:

http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/V/jose-veras.shtml
IronCaballo4
11-19-05, 10:21 PM
So he's gonna "Set the table" for Mariano. am I the only one who thinks he was signed to do just that? Just don't drop the fine China, Jose!
ICEBERG18
11-19-05, 10:24 PM
So he's gonna "Set the table" for Mariano. am I the only one who thinks he was signed to do just that?

Pretty much........
Rich
11-19-05, 10:29 PM
If Veras sets the table for Mo, it will be with knives and forks.
Panamaniac42
11-19-05, 10:48 PM
Look at the bright side — if the Tampa contingent were still in charge, they probably would have signed Quilvio Veras.

Or Dave Veres...
Panamaniac42
11-19-05, 10:50 PM
Seems like a rather harmless move.

I think you missed the part in the article where he was anointed as Tom Gordon's replacement. That's what everyone is up in arms about lol.

No other sports sites seem to have anything on this though, so it looks as if some glue-sniffer at cbs sportsline is just having fun.
27IsNext
11-19-05, 11:03 PM
Okay whatever.
bobbymagee
11-20-05, 06:04 AM
Set up for MO????

" Veras was on the Texas Rangers' roster last year before being reassigned to the team's minor league camp."

He couldn't make the Rangers' pitching roster and he's supposed to set up for Mo? What's the writer of this article smokin? :eek:

Agree, and read Veras quote nonverbatim"I am proud to be signed to be able to set up before Mariano Riveria". What in hades is he smokin? He can't remain on the Rangers roster and he believes he could be in our pen.

What a jacka**!!!
RobertMeacham
11-20-05, 07:03 AM
Damn it, a little confidence never hurt anyone. Don't wish you wish Sean Henn thought like that?
Yankyfan
11-20-05, 08:54 AM
Hey Jenks didn't have great numbers when the WS signed him.You never know.A great arm at a nice price. :P
Bob846
11-20-05, 09:24 AM
(Not comparing).. but Mo struggled as a starter (5.51 ERA in 1995) but was effective in relief in his next season (2.09 ERA). Who knows, hopefully a scout saw something in Veras.... Keeping my fingers and toes crossed here.

I'm not saying this guy will ever be any good, but what would you have thought last year if the Yanks had been the White Sox and claimed Bobby Jenks? Everyone would have said throws smoke but can't find the plate and the Angels didn't want him.
Sixty one
11-20-05, 10:07 AM
He sounds like a project to me. Who knows maybe "Gator" can work some miracle with him. ;) ;)
TEPLimey
11-20-05, 10:09 AM
"Set the table" for Mariano Rivera probably means that he is thrilled for the opportunity to be a part of the same pen as Mo. I think it was him giving respect to someone who he admires more than anything else. The writer may be an idiot, but I really doubt that Veras thinks he is taking over for Gordon. I am happy to see a young guy with potential excited to get his shot with the big club. There's nothing wrong with that at all.

I have never seen him pitch, but his stats as a RP indicate that he can have success. I see no reason why this is a bad signing (I'm guessing they didn't offer him 5 years, $100M). Let him throw some pitches in ST, work in the minors or take over mop-up duty in the pen to gain some confidence and recognition from Torre.

I hope, with the new coaches on the team, Joe will be influenced more to give younger guys their shot instead of going with "veteran experience" (cough, <COUGH>Embree and Leiter, cough cough) <COUGH, cough>every time.

I am excited... this is going to be the first year in a while (1996?) where we are consciously getting a balance of up-and-coming players and playoff-savvy veterans. It will be a breath of fresh air for many Yankee fans.
Yankyfan
11-20-05, 08:26 PM
T I couldn't agree more!! I have no Idea when people bash a move like this.I think people need to realize you can't have a pen of All Stars.I my self was shocked when Flash turned down the chance to close for the sake of trying to win it all.
Jasbro
11-20-05, 08:34 PM
I think you missed the part in the article where he was anointed as Tom Gordon's replacement. That's what everyone is up in arms about lol.

No other sports sites seem to have anything on this though, so it looks as if some glue-sniffer at cbs sportsline is just having fun.


Where does it say that in the article? All it says is that he is excited at the prospect of being able to "help set the table for Mariano Rivera."

Nowhere is it implied that he is slated to be the replacement for anyone, no less Tom Gordon.

This is in all likelihood nothing more than a minor league deal for a guy who will compete for a slot in the bullpen.

It amazes me how much attention such an inconsequential signing is getting here.
gamesix1977
11-20-05, 08:41 PM
Slow news day....
Panamaniac42
11-20-05, 11:27 PM
Where does it say that in the article? All it says is that he is excited at the prospect of being able to "help set the table for Mariano Rivera."

Nowhere is it implied that he is slated to be the replacement for anyone, no less Tom Gordon.

This is in all likelihood nothing more than a minor league deal for a guy who will compete for a slot in the bullpen.

It amazes me how much attention such an inconsequential signing is getting here.


I'm sorry, it didn't say that in the article. However it says it on the sportsline page -- "Yankees sign Veras to fill Gordon's role". As others have said, it seems the writer is the one puffing the magic dragon, not Veras. I should have clarified:


http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/4460/veras3bl.jpg
Panamaniac42
11-20-05, 11:29 PM
Damn it, a little confidence never hurt anyone. Don't wish you wish Sean Henn thought like that?

Maybe we can invite Rickey Henderson to ST as a special instructor to take Henn under his wing. And if not him then we can see if Leon from the Budweiser ads is available :)
Yogi
11-21-05, 07:57 AM
Agree, and read Veras quote nonverbatim"I am proud to be signed to be able to set up before Mariano Riveria". What in hades is he smokin? He can't remain on the Rangers roster and he believes he could be in our pen.

What a jacka**!!!


Well, what would you expect him to say or want him to say?

I would much rather have him be self-confident and ready to take a run at setting up for Mo than to say "what the heck did they sign me for I can't set up for Mo." Give the guy a break!
PoughVirginiaYankee
11-21-05, 08:45 AM
Agree, and read Veras quote nonverbatim"I am proud to be signed to be able to set up before Mariano Riveria". What in hades is he smokin? He can't remain on the Rangers roster and he believes he could be in our pen.

What a jacka**!!!

I wonder if this is how it went down...
Cashman... "So, we should take a flier on this guy..."
Scouts..."Sure..just tell him he'll set up for Mo and he'll be on board."
Panamaniac42
11-21-05, 08:58 AM
I wonder if this is how it went down...
Cashman... "So, we should take a flier on this guy..."
Scouts..."Sure..just tell him he'll set up for Mo and he'll be on board."


yeahhh unfortunately that tactic didn't work on b.j. ryan lol *sigh*
silverdsl
11-21-05, 09:02 AM
Imagine how Veras would be getting ripped if he had said something like "I only signed with the Yankees for the money! I don't know how I fleeced them into signing me since I suck and can't pitch on the major league level!" if he's getting ripped for maybe showing a little confidence and thinking that he can help out in the bullpen. :lol:

This signing doesn't seem to be much of a big deal to me. Many other relievers would probably say something similar in terms of how they would feel honored to potentially be in the bullpen with Mariano. Maybe he'll be great, maybe he won't be but I'd rather see the Yankees add a few guys who might be able to help in the 'pen rather than doing nothing.

-Deborah
RobRiv
11-21-05, 09:22 AM
I like this completely "off the radar" signing if only because it shows the Yanks frontoffice has more targets in its sights than the NY media would have us believe.

I don't like this completely "off the radar" signing because it shows how lackluster the middle relief market really is.

Anyway, welcome aboard, Mr. Veras, whoever you are. We have one basic rule around here: Be good or be gone, or be good enough to get Kevin Brown's deal before you're gone.
Yogi
11-21-05, 10:48 AM
I like this completely "off the radar" signing if only because it shows the Yanks frontoffice has more targets in its sights than the NY media would have us believe.

I don't like this completely "off the radar" signing because it shows how lackluster the middle relief market really is.

Anyway, welcome aboard, Mr. Veras, whoever you are. We have one basic rule around here: Be good or be gone, or be good enough to get Kevin Brown's deal before you're gone.


I like this signing too. Maybe the guy will amount to nothing and maybe it is a sign of a lackluster middle relief market but then it might also be an indication that the Yankees have been doing some really careful scouting and think they have found someone that others have overlooked.

Not too many people were very high on Sturze when they signed him either but he has paid his keep!
BW51
11-21-05, 02:28 PM
i think it's a good idea that it is strength in numbers and you never know, maybe he'll be something at least kind of solid. Even if it's 6th or 7th inning of kind of close games where our starter is done
BW51
11-21-05, 02:31 PM
besides...anyone has to be better than Heredia '04 or F-rod '05
brosiusbuddy
11-21-05, 08:10 PM
"I feel proud that the Yankees have signed me to help set the table for Mariano Rivera," Veras told The AP. "That's something very important to me."

In the words of The Rock, Know Your Role Jabroni! This guy thinks he's our new set up man?
mickey mantle
11-21-05, 08:48 PM
who the hell is jose veras
stupidpunchline
11-22-05, 01:27 AM
who the hell is jose veras

who is karim garcia?

sorry, couldn't resist... ahh, memories... pedro, you old joker
ICEBERG18
11-22-05, 09:39 AM
http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20051121&content_id=1271195&vkey=news_nyy&fext=.jsp&c_id=nyy
Sierra Mist
11-22-05, 06:40 PM
I for one am not impressed, we have much more work to do this offseason. I do not like the way the pen is shaping up right now w/ Sturtze and Veras setting up Mo. We had better resign Gordon in a flash, or else its Mike Stanton part 3 in the Bronx.
38Special
11-22-05, 07:06 PM
Why do people keep talking about Veras setting up Mo? He's a minor league signing like a million others.
Sierra Mist
11-22-05, 07:13 PM
Why do people keep talking about Veras setting up Mo? He's a minor league signing like a million others.

well so far he is our big bullpen addition, he will be the talk of the town until we bring in another future Quantrill.
AMYanks
11-22-05, 07:19 PM
In the words of The Rock, Know Your Role Jabroni! This guy thinks he's our new set up man?

No, he doesn't. He never said that, and I'm not sure how one could possibly interpret his quote as such.
George Steinbrenner
11-22-05, 09:13 PM
Funny sort of minor league stats. whip constantly well under 1.00, gives up very few hits, but his era his usually well up there above 5.00.

I never heard of him, but those type of numbers (especially his strikeout-innings pitched) indicate a young pitcher with real good stuff and real inconsistent location. He's got potential.
27IsNext
11-23-05, 02:47 PM
If we can't get all the dominant relievers on the free agent market, we need to do more signings like this. Sign a bunch on non-tendereds for chump change and let them duke it out in spring training. Should find one or two diamonds in the rough if we're lucky.
Yankyfan
01-01-06, 10:53 PM
Where does Jose fit in now?
keithf1
01-01-06, 10:58 PM
Maybe he will be useful us down the down. His numbers don't look that bad from Durham at all. Good signing Cash.
SINCE77 2
01-01-06, 10:59 PM
Where does Jose fit in now?




Veras fights it out with Sturze, Mendoza and Proctor in ST.
JeffWeaverFan
01-01-06, 11:06 PM
Where does Jose fit in now?
AAA? And I'm sure we will see him when there's an injury or two.
brosiusbuddy
01-01-06, 11:12 PM
No, he doesn't. He never said that, and I'm not sure how one could possibly interpret his quote as such.

"I feel proud that the Yankees have signed me to help set the table for Mariano Rivera," Veras told The AP. "That's something very important to me."
shutout
01-02-06, 06:28 AM
díd they or didn't they sign this dude?? I'm confused now.
Mr. Mxylsplk
01-02-06, 09:47 AM
díd they or didn't they sign this dude?? I'm confused now.
What's confusing? There are links in this thread saying he signed, including confirmation from the yanks. He won't see the Bronx, but he's yankee property.
Evil Empire
01-02-06, 10:05 AM
"I feel proud that the Yankees have signed me to help set the table for Mariano Rivera," Veras told The AP. "That's something very important to me."
He's probably delusional or something.
BW51
01-02-06, 10:30 AM
He's probably delusional or something.

well not really...about when he was signed his biggest (non) competition was sturtze and proctor...now it's pretty full out there

he'll enjoy AAA or have to for at least a while
38Special
01-02-06, 10:47 AM
He'll close in Columbus with a pen that will include Frank Brooks, Justin Pope, Matt Smith, and Colter Bean
Irabu's Son
01-02-06, 10:54 AM
In other news, the Yankees also signed some other guy we've never heard of. Reports are, he'll never make it above Columbus either.
Yankyfan
01-02-06, 11:12 AM
I.S. who is that or is that just in jest ?
38Special
01-02-06, 11:12 AM
HES FUNNY

zzz
Irabu's Son
01-02-06, 11:46 AM
I.S. who is that or is that just in jest ?

Just in jest.


HES FUNNY

zzz

Be nice.
Jasbro
01-02-06, 12:51 PM
No, he doesn't. He never said that, and I'm not sure how one could possibly interpret his quote as such.


&quot;I feel proud that the Yankees have signed me to help set the table for Mariano Rivera,&quot; Veras told The AP. &quot;That's something very important to me.&quot;


He's probably delusional or something.

He said "help set the table for..."

That in no way implies that he will be THE set-up man for Mo, it means he looks forward to being part of the mix of players that will set the table for Mo.

Go easy on the guy -- he is excited to be in the Yankees system -- there is nothing wrong about that, nor is he saying anything "delusional".
keithf1
01-02-06, 02:12 PM
I'd be excited if the Yankees signed me too.

Would you radther him say "I know I'll never pitch for the Yankees because I might not have what it takes but the minors will be fun."
Yankyfan
01-02-06, 02:13 PM
I'd love to see Yates added to that list.
BobbyMurcerFan
01-05-06, 01:55 AM
Set up for MO????

" Veras was on the Texas Rangers' roster last year before being reassigned to the team's minor league camp."

He couldn't make the Rangers' pitching roster and he's supposed to set up for Mo? What's the writer of this article smokin? :eek:"... to help set the table for Mariano Rivera..." <> being Mo's setup man.
DanB
10-08-07, 10:02 PM
not a bad strikeout...ok, gave up a double, but I guess he was right...he did set up for Mo...in the ALDS no less. Thanks for what you gave us Veras.
Tabata
10-08-07, 10:03 PM
Did we sign him all the way back in 05? I thought it was only last year.
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