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albo4lyfe
06-02-06, 11:55 AM
According to reports on a local Boston tv station, the Red Sox will get two draft picks from the Yankees for signing Johhny Damon .
"The Red Sox may get two good players in return for Johnny Damon after all.
When their former center fielder signed with the Yankees as a free agent, New York had to send two choices as compensation "
http://www1.whdh.com/news/articles/sports/BO20448/
No, the Yanks send 1 pick and that's their 1st rounder. The supp. picks are just added on.
ICEBERG18
06-02-06, 12:01 PM
According to reports on a local Boston tv station, the Red Sox will get two draft picks from the Yankees for signing Johhny Damon .
"The Red Sox may get two good players in return for Johnny Damon after all.
When their former center fielder signed with the Yankees as a free agent, New York had to send two choices as compensation "
http://www1.whdh.com/news/articles/sports/BO20448/
This isn't new news.
Since95
06-02-06, 12:37 PM
I love Torre Langley too.. 5'8'' fiery defensive minded catcher. Reminds me of Yogi. I heard he's commited to GTech. Maybe take a shot on him in the 4-5th round. He's named after Joe Torre, so we might be able to sign him.
Anybody got a feel on this kid Aaron Miller.. love his mechanics.
The more I read about Langley the more i love him
http://perfectgame.org/players/videos/05nata/TorreLangley.rm
http://graphics.fansonly.com/photos/schools/usab/sports/m-jr-basebl/auto_headshot/239013.jpeg
http://www.brewerfan.net/ViewAmateurPlayerProfile.do?playerId=557&draftId=4
http://www.geocities.com/beesball/recruits0607.html
His final stats: http://web.douglas.k12.ga.us/web/schools/ahs/Baseball/06seas.htm
.633/.690/1.430 - 14 doubles - 2 triples - 15 homers - 18 walks - 2 strikeouts
38Special
06-02-06, 12:40 PM
mlb.com says about miller
"Comments: Once a top pitching prospect, Miller's bat has passed his arm. Good power and ability to hit line drives. Good defensively at two positions, though better at 1B."
38Special
06-02-06, 02:46 PM
http://tigers.scout.com/2/536420.html
Has us taking Anderson at 21 with guys like Conger, Parmalee (who i'm not that high on), Willems, Kiker, Latos, and Tillman going before the 41st pick, where he has us taking Chad Tracy, the top college catcher and son of Pirates manager Jim Tracy
Since95
06-02-06, 02:47 PM
I think the yankees will stock up on left handed pitching...
I'd go with Kasey kiker at 21, I like his ceiling a lot better than Anderson.. Kiker is a much better looking athlete.
I like Aaron Miller a lot.. another good athlete... I'd take a chance on him at 41 and keep him on the mound.
38Special
06-02-06, 02:50 PM
I dont know if Miller or Kiker would make it to 41, and Kiker seems like too much of a risk for 21
Yanks21
06-02-06, 04:29 PM
I think the yankees will stock up on left handed pitching...
I'd go with Kasey kiker at 21, I like his ceiling a lot better than Anderson.. Kiker is a much better looking athlete.
I like Aaron Miller a lot.. another good athlete... I'd take a chance on him at 41 and keep him on the mound.
I like Miller as well. However, I'd want him as an outfielder...
Another prospect I like as a possibility at 41 is Jason Place...
ICEBERG18
06-02-06, 04:44 PM
Another prospect I like as a possibility at 41 is Jason Place...
Jason Place, Wren High School (S.C.)Place, who has played five years of varsity ball in high school, closed out the prep season on the sidelines with a serious leg injury. He's committed to the University of South Carolina, but a lot will depend on where he is selected. Place is devoted to baseball, forsaking other high school sports. The work has paid off because he has decent power and can hit for average.
"He's kind of an enigma guy," one scout said. "He's a right-handed power corner guy, but he's a risky bet for a high school hitter. There are some people who like him, but I'm waffling on him a little. I can see a lot of Kevin Mench in him. He can drive the ball and has a good swing. I can't say anything negative about him and I know there are teams on him in the first round."
Yanks21
06-02-06, 05:07 PM
Place also has plus speed and a plus plus arm...
The FUTURE
06-02-06, 05:13 PM
Name our Ideal first 4 picks ?
21- ???
41- ???
104- ??
134- ??
bmxstreetrider86
06-02-06, 07:06 PM
mine would be
21-Brett Anderson - some people have soured on anderson because of questions about his athleticism. still, he has good upside, and is a very good bet to reach that upside
41- Dellin Betances - love betances, betances loves the yanks, what more do we need? oh how about 6'9 of low 90's FB with decent secondary pitches and command
104- Brandon Belt- belt is a 6'5 LHP from texas, is very projectable, and has good stuff rite now, and likely to get better as he matures
134- Torre Langley- tough scrappy cather with GG defense and good pop
i no it seems risky to take 4 HS players, but in this draft we need to take chances
jesterno2
06-02-06, 07:33 PM
im personally hoping for something along these lines, anyone think this is even remotely possible?:
21. scherzer - steal this low, could eventually be a dominant closer
41. parmalee - one of the best hitters in the draft and possible gg 1b
104. betances - perfect fit for yanks, hope he is available here
134. johnson - yanks need more power hitters in the farm, highest potential
164. sapp - might not stay as c but another power bat if available
194. langley - fiesty, possible gg c, i would love this pick
224. walden - great arm but stock has fallen, could be available here
254. almonte - high upside lefty
284. belt - another projectable lefty
314. rasmus - havent really heard anything on him and low rankings
i dont have subscriptions to any of the good scouting sites but ive been reading the posts here and brewerfan.net, and i'm sure a lot of these arent reasonable (most of these guys would probably be gone with these picks) but thats what im hoping for. not sure on how far the stock of some of these guys has fallen lately (or been surpasse dby others)... anyone have more information/projection for johnson, sapp, walden, belt and rasmus?
Hidekifan57
06-02-06, 07:35 PM
This is all what we'd like but there's no way they're taking all those prep guys in a row.
38Special
06-02-06, 07:36 PM
you're REALLLY optimistic with any of those guys falling to those rounds
NJASDJDH
06-02-06, 08:34 PM
After reading up on Drabek's "issues"...if Kiker's issues are of a similar nature, draft him, no doubt.
38Special
06-02-06, 08:44 PM
As long as it isnt drugs or violence related then i'm cool.
Since95
06-02-06, 08:52 PM
If there's a draft full of chances.. its this year's draft.
This is what I'm thinking we should do...
21- Kasey Kiker - he might have make up issues, but Scott Kazmir comes to mind.. I'll take that chance.
41- Stephen King - I think he'll go higher but he looks smooth on the field.. If everyone goes pitcher happy.. he could fall and be a steal at 41.
104- Aaron Miller - I think it would be a miracle if he last this long.. but im a fan of him already.
134- Torre Langley- my favorite player in the draft.. from what i've read.. great work ethic.. if aaron miller isn't at 104.. I'd draft langley there... we need to stock up on catchers quickly.
I don't see any college players I like.. so I'd go high ceiling with my first couple of picks. What does everyone think..?
After reading up on Drabek's "issues"...if Kiker's issues are of a similar nature, draft him, no doubt.Who are you hoping for?
albo4lyfe
06-02-06, 10:22 PM
BEATO GOES ON: Pedro Beato, the righthander from Xaverian who was taken by the Mets in the 17th round of last year's draft but did not sign, worked out for the Red Sox at Fenway Park on Tuesday, according to Mel Zitter, the Youth Service League coach for both Beato and Betances. Beato, who throws in the upper 90s, is expected to be a first-round pick.
The Sox can work him all they want, he ain't dropping to them.
38Special
06-02-06, 10:48 PM
Yeah theres no way he drops that far
Yankees1962
06-03-06, 05:24 AM
Here's an interesting tidbit about the upcoming draft from the Yankees perspective.
When Brian Cashman decided to stay as the GM, he wanted more power, and he got it from George Steinbrenner. The latest example of that is Cashman will be in Tampa next week for the amateur draft even though the Yankees are playing the Red Sox at Yankee Stadium.
For years the draft belonged to Tampa with no input from The Bronx faction of the Yankees' dysfunctional family.
http://www.nypost.com/sports/yankees/69594.htm
Yankees1962
06-03-06, 05:48 AM
Some info about Donnie Baseball and Tony Pena's sons.
Preston Mattingly, the 18-year-old son of hitting coach Don Mattingly, will participate in a pre-draft workout for Yankees scouts next week in Tampa. The younger Mattingly, a speedy shortstop who has accepted a scholarship from Tennessee, is expected to go in the top 10 rounds of Tuesday's draft.
Francisco Pena, the son 16-year-old son of Tony Pena, is expected to work out for the Cincinnati Reds at their complex in Sarasota, Fla., and the Washington Nationals in Washington. The younger Pena is a highly regarded catcher who is eligible to sign July 2 and should command a seven-figure signing bonus.
http://www.nj.com/sports/ledger/index.ssf?/base/sports-0/114931286022790.xml&coll=1&thispage=2
38Special
06-03-06, 08:30 AM
get Mattingly, Betances, Kiker/Anderson, Langley please.
Fabien Brandy
06-03-06, 08:55 AM
Langley sounds intriguing but I think Mike Murray might be a more feasible choice. He's bigger, bats lefty and is from NJ and might be more amenable to signing with the Yankees. They can also likely draft him with a later pick.
38Special
06-03-06, 09:01 AM
I havent heard any raving about Murray outside of this board
Yanks21
06-03-06, 09:02 AM
Signability is a major question with Murray. It will probably take a high 6 figure bonus to buy him out of his commitment to Wake Forest. If you're gonna spend a major amount of money on an amatuer catcher this year, you spend it on Tony Pena's kid. Unless, the Yankees' scouts believe that Hank Conger can stay at catcher, and they take him at 21...
38Special
06-03-06, 09:17 AM
I want a lefty at 21
Yankees1962
06-03-06, 09:35 AM
I want a lefty at 21
Why don't you catch the same flight with Cash down to Tampa?;)
Yankyfan
06-03-06, 09:37 AM
I'm happy today.I had the chance to talk to very minor owner this morning and most of the time I tell him about a prospect and a promising draftee but he was well aware of Betences and was hearing real good things about him.I hope it comes to fruition if he's still there.
38Special
06-03-06, 09:38 AM
Why don't you catch the same flight with Cash down to Tampa?;)
I'm on it!
Yanks21
06-03-06, 09:41 AM
I want a lefty at 21
You can't complain if they select David Huff... ;)
I just want someone who will eventually be a significant contributor to the big club, and not someone who will flame out in the minors...
Yankyfan
06-03-06, 09:49 AM
I want pitching in the first few round but I'll be upset if the take Huff with the top selection.Its a crap shot, live a little.
38Special
06-03-06, 09:55 AM
You can't complain if they select David Huff... ;)
Yes i can!
Steph19
06-03-06, 11:05 AM
http://www.minorleagueball.com/story/2006/6/3/03851/51484#commenttop
No, wait, actually Kiker dropped because I found out what his "makeup" issue is. It is not steroids, and it is not public, and I can't discuss it further unless I get confirmation from other sources, but I take it a lot more seroiusly than I take the makeup stuff with Drabek
I'm getting really curious.
Is the feeling that the Yanks will go with teenage talent with high upside or hope to pick up a college-age guy who can contribute within the next two seasons?
Last season it seems like the Yanks mixed both pretty well. Henry is still incredibly unpolished but Cox could be a ML contributer by some time in 2007.
probably both. Damon Oppenheimer ran last year's draft and will run it again this year with Cashman by his side.
sugmasterflex
06-03-06, 03:29 PM
When I first heard about Drabek's make-up issues, I thought the worst. Now that it seems to be out in the open, it's not as bad as I originally thought. I would consider him for 21 or later on if he free falls.
ICEBERG18
06-03-06, 03:37 PM
When I first heard about Drabek's make-up issues, I thought the worst. Now that it seems to be out in the open, it's not as bad as I originally thought. I would consider him for 21 or later on if he free falls.
If he falls to #21, i would take him but i doubt he falls that far.
sugmasterflex
06-03-06, 03:40 PM
If he falls to #21, i would take him but i doubt he falls that far.
I don't know, some of these 1st round mock draft didn't even have him in it because of the make-up concerns.
ICEBERG18
06-03-06, 03:42 PM
I don't know, some of these 1st round mock draft didn't even have him in it because of the make-up concerns.
Which mock draft didn't have him going in the 1st Rd?
sugmasterflex
06-03-06, 03:53 PM
Which mock draft didn't have him going in the 1st Rd?
Sorry, you're right. I was just basing it on memory. I forgot he was projected to the Rangers in a couple of them...
sugmasterflex
06-03-06, 03:59 PM
http://www.pgcrosschecker.com/draft/2006_draft2006_projected_top_30.aspx
This also has the Yanks picking Huff. Although here it says he has a low 90's fastball. :dunno:
Anderson goes two picks before and Marrero with the next pick. I just can't see the Yankees passing on Marrero to pick Huff.
Kulish29
06-03-06, 04:11 PM
http://www.pgcrosschecker.com/draft/2006_draft2006_projected_top_30.aspx
This also has the Yanks picking Huff. Although here it says he has a low 90's fastball. :dunno:
Anderson goes two picks before and Marrero with the next pick. I just can't see the Yankees passing on Marrero to pick Huff.
I'd break things if they picked him.
ICEBERG18
06-03-06, 04:24 PM
John Sickels said Marrero dropped on his Draft board to #29 because he has a hard time with breaking balls.
Is it Tim Battle like problems? Or regular High School player adjusting to breaking balls problems?
Brewerfan.net:He has very good bat speed, and shows a very good eye at the plate. He makes consistent hard contact, and drives the ball to all parts of the field. His advanced, disciplined approach could allow him to move quickly, as he has the potential to hit for both average and power.
albo4lyfe
06-03-06, 04:40 PM
Hochevar has plus-plus fastball velocity? That's news to me.
albo4lyfe
06-03-06, 04:54 PM
Beato drops to 29th? I think not.
38Special
06-03-06, 04:54 PM
if the yankees draft huff with those kinds of guys being drafted around him, i will lose all faith in this organization and in cashman
Hidekifan57
06-03-06, 05:10 PM
Disregarding what I think and what we all think, Allan Simpson is usually pretty accurate. :(
Hidekifan57
06-03-06, 05:14 PM
If Sinkbeil had been healthy all year, he'd intrigue me even more. Brown is interesting too.
Yankees1962
06-03-06, 05:16 PM
if the yankees draft huff with those kinds of guys being drafted around him, i will lose all faith in this organization and in cashman
Why is Huff a bad pick? I don't know much about him and was wondering if any of us have seen him pitch.
Do we have any chance on Pedro Beato? I really want to take him in the first round. Three potential plus pitches..........
Hidekifan57
06-03-06, 05:19 PM
I saw Huff pitch on TV against USC. He's definitely a very good pitcher who'd adjust beautifully to the pros but there are better options. Beat, Marrero, Conger, Antonelli would all be better. I disagree with Simpson on Antonelli dropping that far.
38Special
06-03-06, 05:24 PM
I'm openminded so i'll continue to question about him...what is it about what you saw that made you believe that he would adjust beautifully to the pros?
Or better yet, what is it about his stuff that makes him better than the average college pitcher? From what I saw in his scouting video and what i've read on multiple sites...His velocity is average, his breaking pitch isn't anything special, and his control is above average. Is the changeup that much of a game changer? Any MLB pitcher to compare him to? I dont think Zito is fair because he was K'ing a ton more batters in college and his curveball is absolutely insane
Yankees1962
06-03-06, 05:27 PM
I saw Huff pitch on TV against USC. He's definitely a very good pitcher who'd adjust beautifully to the pros but there are better options. Beat, Marrero, Conger, Antonelli would all be better. I disagree with Simpson on Antonelli dropping that far.
Maybe, the Yankees have their heart set on a left-handed pitcher?
38Special
06-03-06, 05:29 PM
Also, if Hochevar's scouting report is that rosy, and he still has Boras and the drama with the Dodgers last year, I dont see how the Royals take him
Hidekifan57
06-03-06, 05:30 PM
38, did you read my last post? I'm not arguing for Huff. I've continually named guys I'd rather have instead of him. But, he will adjust well to the pros because he's confident in the stuff he has and isn't afraid to challenge or afraid of contact, which is a big plus once you get rolling in the pros. I'm not calling him a fantastic future pro, but at least a good one. But, for about fifth time, he's far from my first choice. I simply commented that he'd adjust nicely to the pros.
And, you're asking the wrong person about his stuff. I saw him pitch a grand total of about four innings. I'm forced to go by what I hear.
Hidekifan57
06-03-06, 05:31 PM
Maybe, the Yankees have their heart set on a left-handed pitcher?
I just wish I knew why everyone is projecting this pick. They must be hearing something that I haven't heard. I've been told they like him but never that they were set on picking him.
Maybe, the Yankees have their heart set on a left-handed pitcher?
Then they are making a bad decision. Picking any specific need with your early picks is when you draft busts. Lefties are especially bad because people end up falling in love with the idea of a lefty pitcher and not with the pitcher's actual ability.
Hidekifan57
06-03-06, 05:33 PM
By the way, the best comparison for Huff's pitching style is Glavine, IMO. Not Zito. His mechanics, fastball and changeup are all like Glavine's. Certainly not saying he'll be Glavine but thats a better comparison than Zito I think.
Hidekifan57
06-03-06, 05:34 PM
Then they are making a bad decision. Picking any specific need with your early picks is when you draft busts. Lefties are especially bad because people end up falling in love with the idea of a lefty pitcher and not with the pitcher's actual ability.
Well, let's not worry yet. I really think this is all speculation by these sites. I still think they'll take the best player, someone like Antonelli, Marrero, Anderson, Parmelee, etc. Whoever they feel is the best available.
Yankees1962
06-03-06, 05:35 PM
I just wish I knew why everyone is projecting this pick. They must be hearing something that I haven't heard. I've been told they like him but never that they were set on picking him.
Maybe it's because they like him that people are projecting the Yankees will take him which in the end might not come to fruition.
Then they are making a bad decision. Picking any specific need with your early picks is when you draft busts. Lefties are especially bad because people end up falling in love with the idea of a lefty pitcher and not with the pitcher's actual ability.
True, but I'm just thinking out loud so it's probably nothing to it.<!-- / message --><!-- Sig Was Here -->
38Special
06-03-06, 05:35 PM
38, did you read my last post? I'm not arguing for Huff. I've continually named guys I'd rather have instead of him. But, he will adjust well to the pros because he's confident in the stuff he has and isn't afraid to challenge or afraid of contact, which is a big plus once you get rolling in the pros. I'm not calling him a fantastic future pro, but at least a good one. But, for about fifth time, he's far from my first choice. I simply commented that he'd adjust nicely to the pros.
And, you're asking the wrong person about his stuff. I saw him pitch a grand total of about four innings. I'm forced to go by what I hear.
I didnt say that you love him or that he was your first choice, i'm just going by you saying that he is a very good pitcher and will adjust well to the pros.
You've seen him 4 more innings than I have, and I keep scouring the net to find something that makes him more than an average pitcher to no avail. Not to mention the really high pitch counts hes racked up this year at UCLA. I'm just trying to use you as a resource because the information available to me doesnt help :lol:
Okay a Glavine comparison, that helps
ChattBaseball
06-03-06, 05:35 PM
I like him even more now after reading that article.
ICEBERG, how come you like Kyler Burke out of Tennessee so much? Do you really think he's got a chance to go before the Padres can get ahold of him at 35??
Maybe, the Yankees have their heart set on a left-handed pitcher?
I don't believe it. Oppenheimer has already said that he is going to take the best talant who is available. Maybe the team really see something good from Huff.
However, I still hope we draft others in the first round, such as Beato, who has a higher ceiling.
Hidekifan57
06-03-06, 05:44 PM
I didnt say that you love him or that he was your first choice, i'm just going by you saying that he is a very good pitcher and will adjust well to the pros.
You've seen him 4 more innings than I have, and I keep scouring the net to find something that makes him more than an average pitcher to no avail. Not to mention the really high pitch counts hes racked up this year at UCLA. I'm just trying to use you as a resource because the information available to me doesnt help :lol:
Okay a Glavine comparison, that helps
It's something that's hard to put your finger on. I suppose what I saw was pitchability. That's the best way I can describe it. Also, the game I saw him in, his fastball was never below 88 MPH, which I found encouraging. He was in the 90's on quite a few occassions. So, he's not the ultra soft tosser like I first thought he was. Mostly 88-89 MPH. IMO, his changeup is a game changer. I forgot to answer that earlier.
But again, there's better guys to pick and I think none of this will matter because I don't see the Yankees picking him at all. :)
ICEBERG18
06-03-06, 05:46 PM
ICEBERG, how come you like Kyler Burke out of Tennessee so much? Do you really think he's got a chance to go before the Padres can get ahold of him at 35??
I like his swing and his approach at the plate. He's also good defensively. And if he fails as an offensive player which i don't see happening, he can always go back to pitching. I have absolutely no idea where he's going to go in the draft, but i hope he's there at #41.
Yankees1962
06-03-06, 05:49 PM
I don't believe it. Oppenheimer has already said that he is going to take the best talant who is available. Maybe the team really see something good from Huff.
However, I still hope we draft others in the first round, such as Beato, who has a higher ceiling.
I don't necessarily believe it either, just thinking out loud.
38Special
06-03-06, 05:58 PM
I like his swing and his approach at the plate. He's also good defensively. And if he fails as an offensive player which i don't see happening, he can always go back to pitching. I have absolutely no idea where he's going to go in the draft, but i hope he's there at #41.
I'm having trouble grasping where he's going to land in the draft as well
Iknowcool
06-03-06, 08:48 PM
Anyone like that Snyder dude out of Washington? Not really "athletic", but he is one of the best hitters in HS for this draft.
spiritof27
06-03-06, 09:56 PM
When I first heard about Drabek's make-up issues, I thought the worst. Now that it seems to be out in the open, it's not as bad as I originally thought. I would consider him for 21 or later on if he free falls.
Out in the open, huh? Then why can't I (after days of scouring) figure out what it is? lol. I'm very curious as to what Drabek's make-up issues are. The only thing I've heard is he's immature and too exciteable on the field. He's in HS, so I don't see why those are make-up issues.
Yankees1962
06-03-06, 10:01 PM
Out in the open, huh? Then why can't I (after days of scouring) figure out what it is? lol. I'm very curious as to what Drabek's make-up issues are. The only thing I've heard is he's immature and too exciteable on the field. He's in HS, so I don't see why those are make-up issues.
BA had an article about him and his problems with a liquor-related arrest and wrecking his vehicle in another, but separate incident.
albo4lyfe
06-03-06, 10:30 PM
Anyone like that Snyder dude out of Washington? Not really "athletic", but he is one of the best hitters in HS for this draft.
Yeah, Snider seems a lot like Billy Butler II. Can't play defense for sh*t but can mesh with the bat.
spiritof27
06-03-06, 10:49 PM
BA had an article about him and his problems with a liquor-related arrest and wrecking his vehicle in another, but separate incident.
Was the second incident alcohol-related?
Steph19
06-03-06, 11:12 PM
Yeah, Snider seems a lot like Billy Butler II. Can't play defense for sh*t but can mesh with the bat.
For a first-round pick, I damn well better be getting a guy that can play both sides of the game unless he's a pitcher. Just my opinion.
albo4lyfe
06-03-06, 11:39 PM
For a first-round pick, I damn well better be getting a guy that can play both sides of the game unless he's a pitcher. Just my opinion.
If he turns out like Butler I don't think many teams would complain that he can't play defense especially AL teams.
homer2931
06-03-06, 11:52 PM
A problem with Huff may be overwork, his pitch counts so far this year
105
99
119
117
114
124
114
128
110
131
121
130
123
121
Thats 141641 PAP, which would have ranked 2nd in all of baseball last year, and he managed to do this in 13 starts. Either he has a rubber arm, or he's going to visit Dr. Andrews soon, IMO
College pitchers really do get abused. I couldn't believe what I watched Horne and Cox do last year.
albo4lyfe
06-04-06, 12:58 AM
College pitchers really do get abused. I couldn't believe what I watched Horne and Cox do last year.
Rice trio of Niemann, Humber, Townsend come to mind.
sugmasterflex
06-04-06, 04:37 AM
The bad news for the Huff projection is Allan Simpson usually knows what he is talking about, definitely more than Callis and Sickels. The good news is that this draft is especially hard to predict, and Simpson references this at the beginning of the article.
Yankees1962
06-04-06, 05:15 AM
Even though, Bill Madden made some valid points about the horrible drafting by the Yankees over the last 5-6 years, he needs to get over Hansen being the end all to all of the Yankee problems. Also, a couple of errors in his article are quite revealing.
In both cases - Papelbon a fourth-round pick in 2003 and Zumaya an 11th-round pick in '02 - the Yankees' Tampa-based scouting and player development people passed, while producing nothing with their picks. Now, granted, so did plenty of other clubs, but here's what has really rankled the New York faction of the Yankee high command: In '02, the Tampa braintrust selected a Santa Fe, N.M. high school pitcher named Brandon Weeden with their No. 1 pick and Estee Harris, a high school outfielder from Central Islip, with their second. Both bombed out, as did the entire 50-player draft with the exception of lefty Brad Halsey (9th round), who made it to the Bronx for a brief so-so stint before being traded as part of the Randy Johnson deal with Arizona. Indeed, the litany of top-pick busts since Jeter in '92 - the David Parrishes, David Wallings, Andrew Browns, etc. - is so embarrassing that it's a wonder they still bother to list them in their press guide. And last year's No. 1 - shortstop C.J. Henry, who was taken over St. John's closer Craig Hansen - appears to be no exception, batting .228 with 16 errors at Class-A.
But take heart, Yankee legions, youth may once again be served at a Stadium near you, even perhaps before the new stadium near you. While acknowledging the Yankees have done a terrible job in the draft for more than a decade, Cashman, who will oversee this year's draft next week in Tampa for the first time, says Yankee fans should be heartened by the way international free-agent signings - Cano and Cabrera - have come up and filled needs. And the GM insists there are some real prospects in the lower echelon of the Yankee farm system, one of whom, 17-year-old Venezuelan outfielder Jose Tabata, has been likened to a "Manny Ramirez-type" hitter by rival scouts.
"I admit, a couple of years ago, our system was probably about the 25th-30th in baseball," Cashman said, "which was the result of poor drafts, trades, injuries and the lack of development. But now we're probably in the middle of the pack, from Double-A down. We've still got a ways to go, and we need to have a good draft this year, but we've got some really impressive young players coming now. I've especially been encouraged with two pitchers at Trenton, (righty starter) Steven White, who was hurt most of last year but who's throwing 91-93 now with a good curve and changeup, and (righty reliever) T.J. Beam, who's been overwhelming the Eastern League (0.88 ERA, 26 hits in 41 innings). Could they help us this year if needed? I wouldn't want to go that far, but I wouldn't rule it out either."
At the lower level, Cashman is especially pumped up about Tabata, who is so advanced as a hitter, the Yankees skipped him over the rookie leagues to Class-A Charleston, where he was hitting .335 with 41 RBI in 45 games, and center fielder Brett Gardner, a prototypical leadoff hitter batting .335 with a .450 on-base percentage and 22 steals at Class-A Tampa.
"I'm obviously very encouraged with the way our system has delivered for us this year and last," Cashman said. "I've said all along we have to get younger and cheaper and we're starting to do that with guys like Robby, Melky and Andy Phillips and low-level trades for guys like (Shawn Chacon)."
Only problem is, with the Yankees' injuries seemingly spiraling out of control, the system has helped out about as much as it can for the near term, and any time Cashman seeks to make even a low-level trade, the immediate asking price is Tabata, White, Beam, Gardner ortop pitching prospect Philip Hughes, who's at Charleston and is at least two years away.
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/story/423320p-357264c.html
Also, there are major errors in NY Post's reporting.
Neither the Yankees nor Mets have a first-round pick, due to the offseason signings of free agents Johnny Damon and Billy Wagner, respectively. The Yankees do choose 41st, thanks to the Phillies signing of Tom Gordon.
http://www.nypost.com/sports/64664.htm
Bill Madden isn't the only one still harping about Hansen.
2005: C.J. Henry (17th overall).
Passing on St. John's pitcher (and Scott Boras client) Craig Hansen, the Bombers settled on Henry, a high school shortstop from Oklahoma City. Henry started this season in Single-A Charleston, where he is batting .229 with an OBP of .326. Thirteen of his 27 hits have been for extra bases.
COULDA HAD 'EM: The Yanks' decision to pass on Hansen could end up being one they regret.
http://www.nypost.com/sports/64665.htm
38Special
06-04-06, 07:31 AM
new york media :rolleyes:
ICEBERG18
06-04-06, 09:37 AM
http://baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=5152
Steph19
06-04-06, 09:49 AM
Wow, that is embarassingly wrong.
Hey, Madden, I think you have more errors then C.J. Henry does.
ChattBaseball
06-04-06, 09:54 AM
I'm having trouble grasping where he's going to land in the draft as well
I'm relatively close to the family, and I think it's so up-in-the air that its impossible to even predict. He's projected between 30 and 40, but if some teams' number 1 guy gets taken, you never know what might happen.
He's in New Mexico right now at the All-American game. There will be coverage...maybe video...on www.chattanoogabaseball.com (http://www.chattanoogabaseball.com) or www.kylerburke.com (http://www.kylerburke.com).
KylerBurke.com was just updated.
ICEBERG18
06-04-06, 11:53 AM
I'm relatively close to the family, and I think it's so up-in-the air that its impossible to even predict.
Do you know if the Yankees have scouted him or have talked to him?
ChattBaseball
06-04-06, 12:06 PM
Do you know if the Yankees have scouted him or have talked to him?
They have scouted him, but I'm not sure who all came in towards the end of the year. I know they came to the Burke's house, but not sure of any followup visits. Not sure if they like him enough to take him at 41...I'm not saying they don't, I just haven't heard of a lot of interest.
CaptainThurman
06-04-06, 12:06 PM
There's a mock draft over at Pinstripes Plus, for what it's worth, that has San Diego picking Huff at #17, and the Yankees taking LHP Brett Anderson out of Stillwater High School at #21.
ICEBERG18
06-04-06, 12:10 PM
I know they came to the Burke's house, but not sure of any followup visits. Not sure if they like him enough to take him at 41...I'm not saying they don't, I just haven't heard of a lot of interest.
It's good to hear that the Yankees went to his house.
CaptainThurman
06-04-06, 12:20 PM
It's good to hear that the Yankees went to his house.
The mock draft predictor over at PP has Burke going #24 to Atlanta.
ICEBERG18
06-04-06, 12:26 PM
The mock draft predictor over at PP has Burke going #24 to Atlanta.
I hope their wrong.;)
CaptainThurman
06-04-06, 01:19 PM
I hope their wrong.;)
Well, then, the good news for you is that never in the history of professional sports have mock drafts been accurate.
homer2931
06-04-06, 03:09 PM
Well, then, the good news for you is that never in the history of professional sports have mock drafts been accurate.
Baseball America went 18 for the first 18 last year. I'd say the baseball draft is usually mroe predicatble, but this year its not
When there is perceived to be a flat talent level in the draft, the players always come off the board in a crazy order. Happened in the NFL draft this year.
albo4lyfe
06-04-06, 04:56 PM
When there is perceived to be a flat talent level in the draft, the players always come off the board in a crazy order. Happened in the NFL draft this year.
Huh? There was very good talent in this year's NFL Draft, especially LB's. But that didn't help the Bills one bit.
Huh? There was very good talent in this year's NFL Draft, especially LB's. But that didn't help the Bills one bit.The Bills are run by octagenarians with reduced brain power. Nurses and retirement is all that will help them.
The FUTURE
06-04-06, 05:35 PM
This draft completely is complicated, its hard telling who we are going to get, I would love to marrero, but we have a surplus of OF prospects, and 3B is ultimately covered. A bunch of pitchers we could take that all have their pros and cons, or we could take Hank Conger, a switch hitting power catcher, but will he stay at catcher ?? and if we got Francisco Pena, would we even need him?? Here's what i finally came up with.
1st pick- 3B Chris Marrero
Reason: You just cant pass on this kids potential and talent, compared to Miguel Cabrera, wow, The reason I like him is because he could be converted to many positions. He has a good arm so LF or maybe RF is a possibility. He could also play 1B, Good backup incase Duncan doesnt pan out.
2nd Pick: C/1B/DH Maxx Sapp
Reason: I love this guys bat, I think he will eventually be a DH only, def. not a catcher, but might be a 1B, my guess he will be a DH.
3rd Pick: ???
4th Pick: C Torre Langley
Reason: We need multiply catchers, hopefully we can add C Francisco Pena, but another solid catcher thats has a wonderful attitude and work ethic, Langley is just one of those guys who will do anything to win, and we need that in our system.
5th pick: RHP/SS Cory Rasmus
Reason: I think he projects as a pitcher, good fastball 95-98 range, good changeup, questions about his other pitches tho, if he even has any other pitches, good defensivly at SS, questions about his bat tho.
OTHER PICKS
LHP Chris Cody, Manhatten, Sr.
REASON: 2nd-team all american in College, im not sure where he could fall in the draft. good numbers in limited amount of games in his Senior Season.
(11-2, 1.45 ERA, 13 GS, 8 CG, 99 IP, 22 BB, 98 K's)
3B Matt Poulk, UNC-Wilmington, Sr.
Reason: Ive seen this kid play alot, Good bat, Good Defense, Could be moved to LF, a pre-season all-american,he didnt have the season everyone was expecting,so he prob. could be gotten in a later round. He finished the regular season with 12 HRS and 45 RBI's.
C Chris Hatcher UNC-Wilmington, Jr.
Reason: Good defensive catcher, with good speed, a leadoff hitter in college, he is only a Junior so he might decide to stay for his senior season, but might be worth a late round draft choice. 362 AVG 7 HR, 47 RBI and 20 SB.
SS Preston Mattingley
Reason: It's Dons Kid, of course we gotta take him, hopefully he falls to our 10th pick, but we prob. have to take him sooner.
OF Jeremy Jones NC A&T, Sr.
Reason: We dont need many OF's in the draft, but i would love to get jeremy, hes only 5'11, but i love his makeup, not sure where he projects.
C Matt Murray
Reason: We need catchers, as long as its a late round pick, im okay with it. Ive read he projects in later rounds, so it seems like a possibility.
Oh yeah and by the way, we need next years first pick so we can take OF Kellen Kulbacki out of James Madison. Go ahead, research about him and you will see why i could take a season of losing to get this kid. Ill give you a hint: (473 AVG 23 HR, 73 RBI:eek: )
NJASDJDH
06-04-06, 06:16 PM
After much soul searching I've decided who I want the Yankees to go after with their first two picks.
Marrero, Antonelli, Anderson in that order for the first pick. Bettances, K. Johnson, Latos for the second pick.
Of course, this is all barring any unforseen development with players dropping way below where they are expected to go and the like.
38Special
06-04-06, 06:46 PM
Who's K Johnson? From Wichita State?
NJASDJDH
06-04-06, 07:33 PM
Who's K Johnson? From Wichita State?
Yeah, that's the one.
Steph19
06-04-06, 07:35 PM
How 'bout drafting Jeffrey Maier? Just for the fun of it!
How 'bout drafting Jeffrey Maier? Just for the fun of it!It might happen. He's a bright kid and they might draft him, play him a few years then give him a job in the organization.
38Special
06-04-06, 08:11 PM
If the Yankees draft is anything like the mock draft done by the readers at Sickels' blog, i might put a bullet in my head
http://minorleagueball.com/
1st Round: Matt Antonelli, 3B, Wake Forest - Athletic college 3B who probably wont hit for much power. A Joe Randa type. Ugh
1st Round supp: Mark Hamilton, 1B, Tulane - Overdraft, power prospect with less than wonderful K numbers and school...plus hes ANOTHER 1B
3rd Round: Jeff Manship, RHP, Notre Dame - The only pick i really like. A big pitching prospect out of HS who had elbow surgery that hurt his status, and now has very good numbers in college
4th Round: Jim Negrych, 2B, Pitt - Undersized middle infielder who plays above tools
5th Round: Jeff Inman, RHP, California HS - A stanford commit with decent numbers and stuff in HS
Steph19
06-04-06, 08:17 PM
Haha, I saw that too. I couldn't believe he passed on Betances in the 1st-supp and let the Red Sox get him. A bunch of other people in that thread noted that, as well.
NJASDJDH
06-04-06, 08:19 PM
If the Yankees draft is anything like the mock draft done by the readers at Sickels' blog, i might put a bullet in my head
http://minorleagueball.com/
1st Round: Matt Antonelli, 3B, Wake Forest - Athletic college 3B who probably wont hit for much power. A Joe Randa type. Ugh
1st Round supp: Mark Hamilton, 1B, Tulane - Overdraft, power prospect with less than wonderful K numbers and school...plus hes ANOTHER 1B
3rd Round: Jeff Manship, RHP, Notre Dame - The only pick i really like. A big pitching prospect out of HS who had elbow surgery that hurt his status, and now has very good numbers in college
4th Round: Jim Negrych, 2B, Pitt - Undersized middle infielder who plays above tools
5th Round: Jeff Inman, RHP, California HS - A stanford commit with decent numbers and stuff in HS
Agreed, although I've really come around on Antonelli, who I initially disliked.
38Special
06-04-06, 08:28 PM
Any reason why?
bmxstreetrider86
06-04-06, 08:41 PM
i posted in that blog that there was no chance the yanks pass on betances if he is there at 41
I wonder what will become of a guy who I went to high school with. Chris Vasami tranferred from ND to Elon to get more playing time and is was their biggest offensive force this season. Not too long ago he was considered one of the nation's best pure hitters out of high school. It will be interesting to see if he garners any interest.
Hidekifan57
06-04-06, 09:06 PM
That's just a bunch of people like posters on this board doing that mock draft. I wouldn't worry about it.
Since95
06-04-06, 09:43 PM
That was the worst mock draft i've seen for the yankees.. it actually made me upset for a moment.. but I know the Tampa brass and Cashman wouldn't be that stupid and careless with our future.
NJASDJDH
06-04-06, 10:07 PM
Any reason why?
I'm not looking at him as a 3B, but rather as a CF or 2B, which are positions he can handle according to his scouting reports. Doing that decreases the offensive pressure and while I don't think he'll be a star he seems like someone who is a sure bet to produce a little bit. I don't know why, but what I'm thinking right now is maybe a guy like what Bobby Hill was supposed to become for the Cubs a little while back, low .800s OPS heavy in OBP.
albo4lyfe
06-04-06, 10:20 PM
http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/draft/news/261611.html
Miller reportedly wants a major league contract, the price of which started at $6 million and may now be eight figures. At the same time, Kansas City doesn't want to exceed the $4 million bonus it paid a year ago to No. 2 overall pick Alex Gordon, considered a superior talent to Miller.
8 figures for Miller? I realize that this draft is weak but Miller is thinking too highly of himself. Plus he's not a sure bet; I can see why the Royals would instead take Lincecum or one of the other college pitchers.
Yanks21
06-04-06, 11:52 PM
The new Royals GM, Dayton Moore, supposedly likes Luke Hochevar and Drew Stubbs. Moore isn't technically running the draft, but I'm sure his thoughts/wishes are known...
If Miller really expects an 8 figure major league contract, then he's in line for a major fall on Tuesday. That's just insane. He's good, but IMO, he's not even in Jered Weaver's class...
Hochevar will get a major league contract, but similar to what Alex Gordon got last year. It's starting to look like it will be from the Royals...
If Miller really expects an 8 figure major league contract, then he's in line for a major fall on Tuesday. That's just insane. He's good, but IMO, he's not even in Jered Weaver's class...
He is better than Jered Weaver. Too bad he won't fall to #21 even though he demands an 8 figure major league contract.
I think the Yanks should look at Derrik Lutz as a near future bullpen arm.
Kulish29
06-05-06, 12:28 AM
http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/draft/news/261611.html
Miller reportedly wants a major league contract, the price of which started at $6 million and may now be eight figures. At the same time, Kansas City doesn't want to exceed the $4 million bonus it paid a year ago to No. 2 overall pick Alex Gordon, considered a superior talent to Miller.
8 figures for Miller? I realize that this draft is weak but Miller is thinking too highly of himself. Plus he's not a sure bet; I can see why the Royals would instead take Lincecum or one of the other college pitchers.
I'd give it to him. If by some chance in hell that Miller drops to 21, I'd hope the Yankees wouldnt think twice.
sugmasterflex
06-05-06, 12:45 AM
My thoughts (preference in the order listed):
First round: Marrero (first choice) or Antonelli or Anderson
Supplemental: Latos or Kris Johnson or Kyler Burke or Lars Anderson
Third: Brandon Belt or Steve Everts
.......
Sixth: Anthony Butler (huge, projectable LHP from Wisconsin).
My Pick
First round: Pedro Beato (Hank Conger, Chris Marrero, Chris Parmelee)
Supplemental first round: Dellin Betances (Kyler Burke, Matt Latos)
Third round: Jeff Manship (Cody Johnson)
Fourth round: Torre Langley (Shawn Tolleson)
Fifth round: Preston Mattingly (Jim Negrych)
albo4lyfe
06-05-06, 06:25 AM
I'd give it to him. If by some chance in hell that Miller drops to 21, I'd hope the Yankees wouldnt think twice.
The Royals don't have the kind of money that the Yanks do and yet I don't think we'd give him an 8 figure either. Upton got 6+ last year. Ponder that.
ICEBERG18
06-05-06, 08:45 AM
Unless something out of the ordinary happens and someone drops to us that wasn't suppose to i.e. Drabek, etc., these are my 1st two picks.
#21-Colton Willems
#41-Kyler Burke
Yanks21
06-05-06, 09:18 AM
21: Brett Anderson (Bryan Morris)
41: Aaron Miller (Chad Tracy)
38Special
06-05-06, 09:24 AM
New York Yankees' 2006 Draft Preview
http://yankees.scout.com/2/537092.html
HughesIsNasty
06-05-06, 09:31 AM
New York Yankees' 2006 Draft Preview
http://yankees.scout.com/2/537092.html
Can you summerize it?
38Special
06-05-06, 09:39 AM
Alright here's my draft board in order by who i'd draft
1st: Marrero - Antonelli - Parmalee - B. Anderson
1st Supp: Burke - Betances - Willems - Latos
3rd: Betances - C. Johnson - Belt - L. Anderson
4th: C. Johnson - Langley - Manship
5th: Langley - Manship - Mattingly
6th: Manship
Panamaniac42
06-05-06, 09:45 AM
I think the Yanks should look at Derrik Lutz as a near future bullpen arm.
Isn't that the name of Robert Downey Jr.'s character in "Back to School"?
GrouchoNYY
06-05-06, 09:45 AM
http://www.benmaller.com/
From his MLB rumors page...
Among the players the Yankees are eyeing in this week's draft are UCLA lefty David Huff and Florida high school third baseman Chris Marrero. The Yankees, who pick 21st in the first round and also have the 41st overall pick as compensation for losing Tom Gordon, have also been linked to Wichita State lefty Kris Johnson, Indiana high school infielder Preston Mattingly (son of hitting coach Don), Texas high school infielder Nick Papasan and Kent State shortstop Emmanuel Burriss as possible picks in the top five rounds. The Los Angeles Dodgers also are high on the 18-year-old Mattingly, who will work out today for Yankees scouts in Tampa, Fla.
Steph19
06-05-06, 10:04 AM
My picks...
First round
1) Pedro Beato, RHP
2) Brett Anderson, LHP
3) Chris Parmelee, 1B
4) Chris Marrero, 3B
First round, supplemental
1) Dellin Betances, RHP
2) Kyler Burke, C
3) Lars Anderson, 1B
4) Matt Latos, RHP
Other picks I'd like to see later on:
Brandon Belt, Torre Langley, Jeff Manship, Preston Mattingly, Danny Almonte, Jeffrey Maier, and at least one St. John's U. player.
38Special
06-05-06, 10:27 AM
http://www.benmaller.com/
From his MLB rumors page...
Among the players the Yankees are eyeing in this week's draft are UCLA lefty David Huff and Florida high school third baseman Chris Marrero. The Yankees, who pick 21st in the first round and also have the 41st overall pick as compensation for losing Tom Gordon, have also been linked to Wichita State lefty Kris Johnson, Indiana high school infielder Preston Mattingly (son of hitting coach Don), Texas high school infielder Nick Papasan and Kent State shortstop Emmanuel Burriss as possible picks in the top five rounds. The Los Angeles Dodgers also are high on the 18-year-old Mattingly, who will work out today for Yankees scouts in Tampa, Fla.
Looks legit, he links from a NJ.com article. Here are the les known guys listed
Papasan, Nick SS Granbury Granbury, TX R/R 5'11 175 Texas A & M 2006
.506 (43-85) 16 doubles, 2 triples, 9 HR, 35 R, 38 RBI 5/26/2006
Burriss (http://www.brewerfan.net/ViewAmateurPlayerProfile.do?playerId=620&draftId=4)
Kris Johnson (http://www.brewerfan.net/ViewAmateurPlayerProfile.do?playerId=591&draftId=4)
I dont see the point of drafting a guy like Burriss with little upside
38Special
06-05-06, 10:30 AM
Papasan
http://aggiebaseball.net/images/Recruit%20Pics/PAPASON%20HITS.jpg
Isn't that the name of Robert Downey Jr.'s character in "Back to School"?
Is it?
Lutz was also a teammate of Longoria in the Cape Cod League and is considered one of the best right-handed pitching arms to come out of college.
He set a whole bunch of records at GW.
He is currently #84 on BA's Ranking of College Prospects.
NelsonMuntz
06-05-06, 10:38 AM
Isn't that the name of Robert Downey Jr.'s character in "Back to School"?
Yes, I believe it is :lol:
"I got one friend, Derek. He's got no friends".
Michaels07
06-05-06, 10:54 AM
Yanks will wind up with an Aaron Small clone in the 50th round.
jesterno2
06-05-06, 11:15 AM
barring any of the top top prospects having a free fall (drabek, rowell, kershaw, etc) these are my picks
21. beato, scherzer, anderson, parmalee
41. betances, latos, willems
104. sapp, johnson, huff
134. langley, walden
164. mattingly
subsequent guys id like to see drafted - belt, almonte, rasmus
The FUTURE
06-05-06, 11:21 AM
21- Chris Marrero, 3B, Florida HS
41- Matt Latos, RHP, Florida HS
104- Carmine Giardina, LHP, Florida HS
134- Torre Langley, C, Georgia HS
164- Danny Almonte, LHP, New York HS
ICEBERG18
06-05-06, 11:44 AM
http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/draft/features/261615.html
Yankyfan
06-05-06, 11:46 AM
Steph 19 I agree with your list.
The FUTURE
06-05-06, 12:23 PM
Hopefully other teams wont draft mattingley because they're concerned he would only sign with the yankees and he dropps to the 6th round, wishful thinking ??
Steph19
06-05-06, 12:29 PM
Hopefully other teams wont draft mattingley because they're concerned he would only sign with the yankees and he dropps to the 6th round, wishful thinking ??
I'd say it's possible. He has committed to Tennessee and he could last 'til a bit later in the draft. The kid is already set financially, I'd imagine.
38Special
06-05-06, 12:37 PM
http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/draft/features/261615.html
wow. Scherzer, Parmalee, Marrero, and Rowell gone before 15. That would suck for us
baseballanalysts.com has an interesting take on what the Yankees should do:
Dellin Betances has been quite the anomoly this spring, his stock changing often, his velocity reportedly down. However, players with his projectablity rarely find their way to Brooklyn, so the Yankees really should choose Betances at pick 41.
http://baseballanalysts.com/archives/2006/06/jumping_on_the.php
BennyTheJetRodriguez
06-05-06, 12:53 PM
wow. Scherzer, Parmalee, Marrero, and Rowell gone before 15. That would suck for usYikes, who would that leave? Do they have anybody good dropping in those guys places?
AMYanks
06-05-06, 12:57 PM
I don't know enough about the prospects to give my complete list of players I want, but I really hope we end up with Betances. The more I read about him, the more I want him.
38Special
06-05-06, 01:04 PM
Yikes, who would that leave? Do they have anybody good dropping in those guys places?
well if that draft is accurate.....
there is the 16th, 17th, 18th, 19th, and 20th then us
Daniel Bard
Joba Chamberlain
Jeremy Jeffress
Brett Anderson
Kasey Kiker
Matt Antonelli
Pedro Beato
Hank Conger
My guess is that Kiker, Jeffress, and Bard would be gone in those 5 picks
albo4lyfe
06-05-06, 01:55 PM
1st - Scherzer, Beato, Marrero, Anderson, Chamberlain
1st supp. - Betances, Latos, Willems, Tillman, Belt, Walden
3rd - Belt, Rasmus, Locke
4th - White, Pham, Langley, Jeroloman
TheScooter
06-05-06, 01:56 PM
21. New York Yankees (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/baseball/mlb/teams/yankees): Brett Anderson, LHP, Stillwater (Okla.) High
The most interesting choice in this slot would be Beato, whom the Mets were unable to sign last week. However, if the Yankees are interested in more than generating headlines, they will recognize that Anderson is the better bet, a southpaw whose father is a college coach. While Beato offers big-time velocity, Anderson should rise quicker, giving the Yankees' system the good southpaw it currently lacks.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/baseball/mlb/06/05/mlb.mockdraft/2.html
albo4lyfe
06-05-06, 01:57 PM
well if that draft is accurate.....
there is the 16th, 17th, 18th, 19th, and 20th then us
Daniel Bard
Joba Chamberlain
Jeremy Jeffress
Brett Anderson
Kasey Kiker
Matt Antonelli
Pedro Beato
Hank Conger
My guess is that Kiker, Jeffress, and Bard would be gone in those 5 picks
Don't forget Huff. :( Damn, I really want a team to pick Huff before us so the Yanks don't even have a chance at taking him.
Kulish29
06-05-06, 01:57 PM
21. New York Yankees (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/baseball/mlb/teams/yankees): Brett Anderson, LHP, Stillwater (Okla.) High
The most interesting choice in this slot would be Beato, whom the Mets were unable to sign last week. However, if the Yankees are interested in more than generating headlines, they will recognize that Anderson is the better bet, a southpaw whose father is a college coach. While Beato offers big-time velocity, Anderson should rise quicker, giving the Yankees' system the good southpaw it currently lacks.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/baseball/mlb/06/05/mlb.mockdraft/2.html
I would not be mad at that at all.
TheScooter
06-05-06, 01:59 PM
I would not be mad at that at all.
They have Drabek going #18,Conger going #19 and Marrero going #20
JeffWeaverFan
06-05-06, 01:59 PM
wow. Scherzer, Parmalee, Marrero, and Rowell gone before 15. That would suck for us
And didn't BA get the first round completely right last year?
albo4lyfe
06-05-06, 02:07 PM
And didn't BA get the first round completely right last year?
I think they went 18/18 or so.
Kulish29
06-05-06, 02:08 PM
They have Drabek going #18,Conger going #19 and Marrero going #20
Conger at 21 is another guy I wouldnt mind.
Didn't see this posted.. but they have us taking Beato with Willems, Antonelli, Marrero, Anderson off the board. They do mention we like Willems. Conger, Sinkbeil, Jeffries, and Huff are still on the board....
http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article_perspectives.jsp?ymd=20060605&content_id=1489090&vkey=perspectives&fext=.jsp
38Special
06-05-06, 02:22 PM
I dont see how we could pass on Jeffress
JeffWeaverFan
06-05-06, 02:34 PM
What time does the draft start and will I be able to stream it?
The FUTURE
06-05-06, 02:43 PM
Conger at 21 is another guy I wouldnt mind.
I really like Conger too, but with Francisco Pena out there, I think we should use our highest draft pick on the most talented player, then draft a catcher in the 5-10 rounds for insurance if we don't land Pena or Montero. I think the us and the braves (who have Francisco's brother, SS Tony Pena, in their system are the front runners)
The FUTURE
06-05-06, 02:45 PM
I dont see how we could pass on Jeffress
If we took anyone but Chris Marrero over Jeffress I would be really upset, You cant find a 100mph HS arm in many places. I would still be kinda upset ever if we took Marrero over Jeffress.
Anyone know what time the draft starts ??
The FUTURE
06-05-06, 02:54 PM
The more and more I read about him, the more I like him. Im starting to like LHP Carmine Giardina better than any other lefty in the draft. HEs signed with Texas, but im sure we could offer him a good price if we were to draft him.
http://tampatrib.com/Sports/MGBPZ2RQVAE.html
Q&A- http://yankees.scout.com/2/524006.html
His arsenal includes a 90-92 fastball that shows good, late movement, an improving slow curveball that starts high and ends low and his strikeout pitch is a changeup that darts away from right-handed batters. He commands all his pitches very well supposedly. Very High ceiling pitcher IMO.
38Special
06-05-06, 02:55 PM
1 est
ICEBERG18
06-05-06, 02:56 PM
Updated Draft tracker.
http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/draft/features/261330.html (http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/draft/features/261330.html)
38Special
06-05-06, 02:58 PM
do we draft bard if he falls to us?
Fabien Brandy
06-05-06, 03:01 PM
If they took Jeffress in the 20s and then Betances in the 40s that would be a substantial infusion of nasty stuff to the system.
homer2931
06-05-06, 03:12 PM
Alright here's my draft board in order by who i'd draft
1st: Marrero - Antonelli - Parmalee - B. Anderson
1st Supp: Burke - Betances - Willems - Latos
3rd: Betances - C. Johnson - Belt - L. Anderson
4th: C. Johnson - Langley - Manship
5th: Langley - Manship - Mattingly
6th: Manship
I assume C. Johnson is Cody
Has he really fallen into 3rd-4th round range? With his potential, if he's available in the 3rd round, you have to do it. IMO
Kulish29
06-05-06, 03:21 PM
do we draft bard if he falls to us?
What's the story on him? Doesnt he have good stuff but bad command?
I'd like
1st - Jeremy Jeffress, Hank Conger, Pedro Beato
1st Supp. - Dellin Betances, Lars Anderson, Jordan Walden, Brooks Brown
There is probably 0 chance that they only want prep guys in the 1st and Supp. but I can dream can't I?
Hard signs to draft at some point and throw MONEY at - Jared Mitchell (Football) or Brent Brewer (Football) or Riley Cooper (Football). Hmm there's a bit of a trend there.
Oh and please NO to David Huff and Brett Andersen.
Woodshed42
06-05-06, 03:32 PM
do we draft bard if he falls to us?
I sure hope so...especially with the paucity of 1st round high school arms to choose from
1)Conger/Beato/Parmelee/Betances
1 supp)Betances
3)Upside Lefty?...Hammack/Brooks
Int'l:
1)Pena
Yanks21
06-05-06, 03:39 PM
I think the Yankees to the chagrin of many on this board will be going after college players early tomorrow in an attempt to quickly bolster the higher levels of the farm. I keep reading quotes about the higher levels not being as deep as they want it to be...
With the Blue Jays apparently close to a pre-draft deal with Travis Snider, it looks like Matt Antonelli will now be available at 21. I believe that he will be the choice at 21, if he's on the board...
The reason I believe they apparently like David Huff is because they want a polished lefty who will sail through the system. If Antonelli is the guy at 21, then I think they take another polished lefty at 41 in Kris Johnson...
If Antonelli is off the board at 21, then I won't at all be suprised to see someone like Huff at 21, and someone like Emmanuel Burriss at 41. In which case I also predict a board meltdown...
I'm not sure how much I'll be able to gripe tomorrow given the quality (or lack thereof) of this draft pool. Unless someone unexpcected really falls, there isn't one likely available player that particularly excites me...
BennyTheJetRodriguez
06-05-06, 03:50 PM
Whats so great about Antonelli? I only have stats to go on, but his 05 numbers in the ACC seem good, but not outstanding. Is he very toolsy or did he improve this year a lot?
albo4lyfe
06-05-06, 03:53 PM
What's the story on him? Doesnt he have good stuff but bad command?
Bingo!
38Special
06-05-06, 03:55 PM
What's the story on him? Doesnt he have good stuff but bad command?
the story is we drafted him as a high schooler and didnt sign him
Kulish29
06-05-06, 04:10 PM
the story is we drafted him as a high schooler and didnt sign him
Well, I know that. What I meant was, what was the deal with him as a pitcher. Would you pick him at 21 if he was there? IIRC from past posts, you werent high on him.
The FUTURE
06-05-06, 04:19 PM
do we draft bard if he falls to us?
Jesus YES, I love Bard, Tarheel Fan baby, no but really I doubt he would even get within 3 picks of us
Fabien Brandy
06-05-06, 04:42 PM
I think the Yankees to the chagrin of many on this board will be going after college players early tomorrow in an attempt to quickly bolster the higher levels of the farm. I keep reading quotes about the higher levels not being as deep as they want it to be... Last year they went HS for Henry but then really went all college except for Jackson in round 8. And yes, there was generally a pretty unhappy board here.
I personally haven't gotten attached to any early round guys but just pray, pray, pray that they don't draft guys 30, 40, 50 spots ahead of where they've been predicted to go. Its those 'head scratch' picks that make me intensely angry.
Yanks21
06-05-06, 04:49 PM
I personally haven't gotten attached to any early round guys but just pray, pray, pray that they don't draft guys 30, 40, 50 spots ahead of where they've been predicted to go. Its those 'head scratch' picks that make me intensely angry.
That's the problem with not being able to trade picks. Overdrafting is always a part of the equation. They "overdrafted" Brett Gardner last year, but it was definitely worth it. Again, I don't foresee any reason for me to gripe tomorrow given the talent pool. It is what it is...
Yanks21
06-05-06, 05:24 PM
FWIW, Jonathan Mayo has the Yanks going with Beato at 21 in his final projection...
http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article_perspectives.jsp?ymd=20060605&content_id=1489090&vkey=perspectives&fext=.jsp
NJASDJDH
06-05-06, 06:37 PM
[quote=Kulish29If by some chance in hell that Miller drops to 21, I'd hope the Yankees wouldnt think twice.[/quote]
I do.
NJASDJDH
06-05-06, 06:43 PM
do we draft bard if he falls to us?
It depends on who else is available, but I actually like Bard more than Miller.
38Special
06-05-06, 06:50 PM
It depends on who else is available, but I actually like Bard more than Miller.
Why? Miller throws harder, is a lefty, has better control, and had a better college career
NJASDJDH
06-05-06, 06:52 PM
Why? Miller throws harder, is a lefty, has better control, and had a better college career
I know, but for some reason, I've never been a big fan of Miller and just have a feeling that at best he's going to be a reliever. I don't really have much objective evidence to go on, but my gut just tells me that Miller isn't someone to get hyped up about.
38Special
06-05-06, 06:53 PM
I wish NC had game logs on their site like some of the other sites do (like Notre Dame). From what I've read, Bard's control improved greatly as the season progressed
ChattBaseball
06-05-06, 07:21 PM
ICEBERG, you see Burke moved up to 30 on BA's Draft Tracker? What does the balloon mean?? There are up, down, side-to-side arrows...but he's got a balloon???
Hidekifan57
06-05-06, 07:22 PM
It means helium. Meaning his stock is rising tremendously.
BomberBrian
06-05-06, 07:23 PM
you can get game logs on the carolina site.
38Special
06-05-06, 07:23 PM
I know he wasnt mentioned in the PP article, but any chance we take him at 21?
ICEBERG18
06-05-06, 07:28 PM
ICEBERG, you see Burke moved up to 30 on BA's Draft Tracker?
Yeah, i seen it.
Hidekifan57
06-05-06, 07:28 PM
There's a chance. The only reason I didn't include him in that article is because most scouts I talked to told me he'd be gone by then.
ICEBERG18
06-05-06, 07:31 PM
There's a chance. The only reason I didn't include him in that article is because most scouts I talked to told me he'd be gone by then.
Burke? WOW.
38Special
06-05-06, 07:31 PM
wow thats really helium :lol:
NJASDJDH
06-05-06, 07:34 PM
I wish NC had game logs on their site like some of the other sites do (like Notre Dame). From what I've read, Bard's control improved greatly as the season progressed
I've read that about Bard as well, but to be honest, it's not as though I'm completely sold on him, I just think he'll be better than Miller. Overall, I actually have more concerns/questions about the projected top guys for this draft class than I do for the later guys. Maybe it's because I expect more. What do you think of Miller?
Hidekifan57
06-05-06, 07:43 PM
Burke? WOW.
No I was talking about Bard, lol. Sorry
NJASDJDH
06-05-06, 07:49 PM
No I was talking about Bard, lol. Sorry
Can you give your personal breakdown on Bard versus Miller and Miller's overall worth as a prospect. Not necessarily what you're hearing, but what you feel based on what you've heard.
Hidekifan57
06-05-06, 07:52 PM
Bard vs. Miller is a great debate. Here's my take from what I have gathered.
As far as upside, I give the edge to Bard. But, Bard is also more likely to flame out than Miller is. Bard has shown more life on his fastball than Miller. Miller has been 89-92 MPH all spring. That's good but not electrifying. Bard has been inconsistent but on his dominant nights, he's been 94-96 MPH at times. If they both reach their potential, Bard is better. But, Miller is the much safer bet.
NJASDJDH
06-05-06, 07:54 PM
Bard vs. Miller is a great debate. Here's my take from what I have gathered.
As far as upside, I give the edge to Bard. But, Bard is also more likely to flame out than Miller is. Bard has shown more life on his fastball than Miller. Miller has been 89-92 MPH all spring. That's good but not electrifying. Bard has been inconsistent but on his dominant nights, he's been 94-96 MPH at times. If they both reach their potential, Bard is better. But, Miller is the much safer bet.
If you're the Royals, who do you draft number 1?
On another note, I actually like Kris Johnson at least as much as, and probably more than, Miller. Especially when cost is taken into account.
38Special
06-05-06, 07:56 PM
I've read that about Bard as well, but to be honest, it's not as though I'm completely sold on him, I just think he'll be better than Miller. Overall, I actually have more concerns/questions about the projected top guys for this draft class than I do for the later guys. Maybe it's because I expect more. What do you think of Miller?
What I've heard about his ability to throw a changeup makes me think that you might be right about the bullpen
sugmasterflex
06-05-06, 07:56 PM
I think the Yankees to the chagrin of many on this board will be going after college players early tomorrow in an attempt to quickly bolster the higher levels of the farm. I keep reading quotes about the higher levels not being as deep as they want it to be...
What are you hearing on Marrero?
And whoever the Yanks draft tomorrow will not get ahead of Hughes and Duncan. Even someone as polished as Huff won't make it to the majors ahead of Hughes. Maybe a couple of years ago the Yankees may have drafted quick risers rather than high ceiling talent, but not now when players like Hughes, Duncan, Clippard, and White are already at AA. At least I hope not.
38Special
06-05-06, 08:01 PM
If you're the Royals, who do you draft number 1?
On another note, I actually like Kris Johnson at least as much as, and probably more than, Miller. Especially when cost is taken into account.
??
4.86 ERA 57 hits and 21 walks in 53 innings
he must have great stuff
Hidekifan57
06-05-06, 08:01 PM
If you're the Royals, who do you draft number 1?
On another note, I actually like Kris Johnson at least as much as, and probably more than, Miller. Especially when cost is taken into account.
Johnson is outstanding. Not sure where he fits round-wise but I'd love to get him.
Hidekifan57
06-05-06, 08:05 PM
I'd go with Lincoln #1 rather than Miller by the way. They won't do it though I don't think.
NJASDJDH
06-05-06, 08:06 PM
??
4.86 ERA 57 hits and 21 walks in 53 innings
he must have great stuff
Good for a lefty, low 90s fastball. He's just coming back from TJ, so I'm taking his numbers this year with a grain of salt, but in previous years he had very good numbers.
IrishYankee
06-05-06, 08:07 PM
I love the names these discussions throw up, but realistically, where we choose, who knows. I analyze after the fact, never before. Maybe I'm a cicken $%^&* but who cares ??!!!
38Special
06-05-06, 08:07 PM
Good for a lefty, low 90s fastball. He's just coming back from TJ, so I'm taking his numbers this year with a grain of salt, but in previous years he had very good numbers.
Sounds like a great pick in the mid rounds like Patterson
NJASDJDH
06-05-06, 08:09 PM
Sounds like a great pick in the mid rounds like Patterson
How deep are you talking when you say mid-rounds?
ICEBERG18
06-05-06, 08:10 PM
No I was talking about Bard, lol. Sorry
My fault.;)
NJASDJDH
06-05-06, 08:11 PM
I'd go with Lincoln #1 rather than Miller by the way. They won't do it though I don't think.
Me too. I think the top 3 talents based on everything I've gone over and my personal biases are Lincoln, Lincecum, and Drabek.
38Special
06-05-06, 08:12 PM
How deep are you talking when you say mid-rounds?
Like 5-6?
NJASDJDH
06-05-06, 08:13 PM
Like 5-6?
That would be excellent for that round, I think he'll be gone by the 3rd round at the lates though.
38Special
06-05-06, 08:15 PM
Anyone else here like the idea of Langley in the 3rd or 4th rounds?
I can't wait for the final BA mock draft to come out late tonight. It was incredibly accurate last year. Their coverage has been meh this year but the predictions are the best in the business
Anyone else here like the idea of Langley in the 3rd or 4th rounds?
I can't wait for the final BA mock draft to come out late tonight. It was incredibly accurate last year. Their coverage has been meh this year but the predictions are the best in the businessI've been checking their site regularly (they said late evening); I guess we'll have to wait till late tonight.
NJASDJDH
06-05-06, 08:20 PM
Anyone else here like the idea of Langley in the 3rd or 4th rounds?
I can't wait for the final BA mock draft to come out late tonight. It was incredibly accurate last year. Their coverage has been meh this year but the predictions are the best in the business
Late evening has usually meant around 1 AM this year it seems. Langley is a guy that I'd really like in the 3rd or 4th round.
While I think this draft is tough on teams in the early going, I think overall it's a year that's going to highlight who has the really good player development system because a lot of the guys seem like kids who can/will go to college and come back in 3 years as nice picks. As a result, it's now up to the Yankee/whoever developmental system to do that developing.
Hidekifan57
06-05-06, 08:29 PM
Anyone else here like the idea of Langley in the 3rd or 4th rounds?
I can't wait for the final BA mock draft to come out late tonight. It was incredibly accurate last year. Their coverage has been meh this year but the predictions are the best in the business
Gotta agree with you 38. I don't like a lot of what BA does, but they're right on the mark when it comes to the draft. I love what they do.
Yanks21
06-05-06, 08:35 PM
What are you hearing on Marrero?
And whoever the Yanks draft tomorrow will not get ahead of Hughes and Duncan. Even someone as polished as Huff won't make it to the majors ahead of Hughes. Maybe a couple of years ago the Yankees may have drafted quick risers rather than high ceiling talent, but not now when players like Hughes, Duncan, Clippard, and White are already at AA. At least I hope not.
From what I've been reading, Marrero will be gone by 21. Possibly to the Cubs at 13...
It seems clear to me they want guys who can be counted on sooner rather than later. Meaning prospects whose ETA will be 2007/2008 and not 2010...
Yanks21
06-05-06, 08:43 PM
I'd go with Lincoln #1 rather than Miller by the way. They won't do it though I don't think.
Apparently, the Royals want to cut a pre-draft deal with their choice. That won't happen with Miller, and as far as Hochevar is concerned, Boras isn't a pre-draft deal kind of agent. Which leaves Lincoln...
I'm really not that high on Miller either...
38Special
06-05-06, 08:45 PM
I miss having a BA subscription to mooch off of :lol:
That mock tonight better not be sub-only
Yanks21
06-05-06, 08:46 PM
Sounds like a great pick in the mid rounds like Patterson
Johnson probably won't make it out of the first supplemental round...
Hidekifan57
06-05-06, 08:47 PM
Their mock is probably sub required. It was last year.
NJASDJDH
06-05-06, 09:06 PM
According to BA, Drabek is going to go only as high as 12th and possibly fall out of the first round altogether. If the Yankees have a shot at him, they HAVE to take him I think.
38Special
06-05-06, 09:09 PM
I dont care what he did in high school. His stuff is nasty
IrishYankee
06-05-06, 09:15 PM
Its such a cool year to have an interest in the draft. A perfect year to judge how the shift in power in the boardroom will effect the minor legue systam, AND at the same time, to see how well they can pick talent that isn't automatically ticketed for certain rounds.
At least I'm excited. Gigigty giggity goo.
ICEBERG18
06-05-06, 09:18 PM
According to BA, Drabek is going to go only as high as 12th and possibly fall out of the first round altogether. If the Yankees have a shot at him, they HAVE to take him I think.
If he's there and the Yankees "John Stockton" him, I say we all fly down to Tampa.
If he's there and the Yankees "John Stockton" him, I say we all fly down to Tampa.What's the reference?
Yanks21
06-05-06, 09:23 PM
I highly doubt Drabek makes it past Texas...
ICEBERG18
06-05-06, 09:26 PM
What's the reference?
"Pass" on him. John Stockton is the All Time NBA Leader in Assists, so he's done a lot of passing. I know very corny, but i liked it.:D
"Pass" on him. John Stockton is the All Time NBA Leader in Assists. I know very corny, but i liked it.:D Oh, :lol:
I thought there was another Stockton that the Yankees passed up on in some draft 20 years ago.
ICEBERG18
06-05-06, 09:27 PM
I highly doubt Drabek makes it past Texas...
I agree.
destiNY
06-05-06, 09:27 PM
drabek:rockin: Unfortunately I don't think we'll get him
ChattBaseball
06-05-06, 09:29 PM
Anyone else here like the idea of Langley in the 3rd or 4th rounds?
I can't wait for the final BA mock draft to come out late tonight. It was incredibly accurate last year. Their coverage has been meh this year but the predictions are the best in the business
I watched Langley take BP this morning and then participate in the Home Run Derby at the All-American Game in New Mexico....he won the HR Derby...3 in first round, 2 in finals I think.
This was the first year they used wood at this event...Isotopes Park is 428 dead center, 404 right center, 385 left center, 340 right field, and 3?? left field. So there were not many home runs hit.
But Langley can hit. His build is smaller than I would like, but he's a player.
This game will be televised on Fox Sports on Wednesday at 9PM Eastern.
Steph19
06-05-06, 09:30 PM
I'm getting so anxious for the draft and it's still not 'til tomorrow...
I really do foresee the Yanks picking Antonelli or Huff in the first and passing on Betances in the supp. only to top it all off with the Sox picking him right afterwards. Unlike last year, I am going to go in fully expecting disappointment.
38Special
06-05-06, 09:31 PM
I watched Langley take BP this morning and then participate in the Home Run Derby at the All-American Game in New Mexico....he won the HR Derby...3 in first round, 2 in finals I think.
This was the first year they used wood at this event...Isotopes Park is 428 dead center, 404 right center, 385 left center, 340 right field, and 3?? left field. So there were not many home runs hit.
But Langley can hit. His build is smaller than I would like, but he's a player.
This game will be televised on Fox Sports on Wednesday at 9PM Eastern.
And hes a really good defender and very athletic despite his small frame
I reallllllllllllllllllllllllly like him
ChattBaseball
06-05-06, 09:33 PM
Langley wont go too early because from what I hear it wont take much to sign him! But who knows...I'm definitely no expert!!
Steph19
06-05-06, 11:57 PM
According to a poster on John Sickels' site, KCTV has reported that the Royals will make Brad Lincoln, not Andrew Miller, the top draft pick.
Frank Boal (KC's FOX) reported that according to Lincoln's advisor that he had been assured that his client would be the overall #1 pick in the draft tomorrow.
27IsNext
06-06-06, 12:02 AM
What time is BA's mock draft suppose to come out?
Steph19
06-06-06, 12:35 AM
What time is BA's mock draft suppose to come out?
Much later and it won't be any surprise if they get all of them right. :P
Kulish29
06-06-06, 01:59 AM
According to a poster on John Sickels' site, KCTV has reported that the Royals will make Brad Lincoln, not Andrew Miller, the top draft pick.
Contract them. They're one inept organization.
JeffWeaverFan
06-06-06, 02:46 AM
According to BA, Drabek is going to go only as high as 12th and possibly fall out of the first round altogether. If the Yankees have a shot at him, they HAVE to take him I think.
Aren't there steroid concerns with him?
sugmasterflex
06-06-06, 02:58 AM
Gotta agree with you 38. I don't like a lot of what BA does, but they're right on the mark when it comes to the draft. I love what they do.
Except this year is more unpredictable and BA doesn't have Allan Simpson anymore...
cliftonite
06-06-06, 03:57 AM
what time is the draft?
I'm looking forward to the draft analysis from this board. Last year, several posters, notably 38, did a super job bring some scouting reports, stats, etc. to the table, on all the Yankees picks.
TheScooter
06-06-06, 05:57 AM
what time is the draft?
1pm eastern
TheScooter
06-06-06, 06:09 AM
Pitching,pitching and more pitching
If the teams ahead of them behave as expected, the Pirates almost certainly today will select University of Houston right-hander Brad Lincoln with the fourth pick overall in the amateur draft
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06157/696052-63.stm
Beyond that there's a good selection of college right-handers, including Houston's Brad Lincoln (who will probably not fall to the Mariners) and some Pac-10 juniors: Cal's Brandon Morrow, Stanford's Greg Reynolds and Washington's Tim Lincecum
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/baseball/272893_mdraft06.html
"Our board is full of good arms in college," Arbuckle said. "Otherwise, I think we'd like to load up with high-level athletes."
Among those college pitchers possibly available at 18: righthanders Jeff Samardzija from Notre Dame (one of the Fighting Irish's top receivers), Brett Sinkbeil from Missouri State and Pedro Beato from St. Petersburg Junior College, right near where the Phillies go for spring training.
http://www.philly.com/mld/dailynews/sports/14749848.htm
The Diamondbacks would love Morrow or Reynolds, but assuming they go in the top 10, the most intriguing pitcher left on the board might be right-hander Max Scherzer, who is 7-2 with a 1.95 ERA in 13 games for the University of Missouri this season.
Scherzer is being advised by Boras, but that likely won't deter the Diamondbacks, who dealt with the hard-driving agent when they drafted Stephen Drew in the first round two years ago. Drew took a year to sign, but is rising in the organization now.
Should Scherzer be gone, Arizona might look to cut a pre-draft deal with another college starter - perhaps Texas' Kyle McCulloch or UCLA's David Huff - and spend less than the $1.9 million given in bonus money to last year's No. 11 pick.
http://www.azcentral.com/sports/diamondbacks/articles/0606dbside0606.html
All of the Rangers' issues are presented clearly in what appear to be the final four candidates for their pick:
• Houston-area high school right-hander Kyle Drabek represents perhaps the best athlete in the draft, but there are maturity issues that led one scouting director to say the son of former Cy Young Award winner Doug Drabek "has a strong sense of entitlement."
• University of Washington right-hander Tim Lincecum might be able to help the Rangers as early as September, but his height (5-11) and his unorthodox delivery raise questions about whether he'll be able to help them long term.
• Alabama high school left-hander Kasey Kiker fits the profile for success at Ameriquest Field in Arlington. He could be a future Kenny Rogers. But potential and reality rarely intersect.
• Wake Forest infielder Matt Antonelli is an impressive young man who would help fill the need for position players in the organization
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/baseball/rangers/stories/060606dnsporangdraftadv.11a3c332.html
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After that, the forecast is cloudy, although it is highly likely the Tigers will pick from the remaining top-drawer pitchers: Morrow, Reynolds, Kershaw, Lincoln, Lincecum or, possibly, Hochevar.
Kershaw was likely the Tigers' first choice until a late, lukewarm spring seemed to drop his stock and raise anxiety levels already high for big league scouts who consider taking a high school pitcher the ultimate draft-day risk.
Stubbs, likewise, has been a longtime Tigers favorite. Stubbs can run, field, throw and hit for immense power when he does hit, which is not as often as you would ideally want in a first-round outfielder.
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060606/SPORTS0104/606060340/1004
Here is how staff writer Jim Salisbury sees the Phillies' draft preferences:
1. High school catcher
Hank Conger
2. College outfielder
Drew Stubbs
3. High school pitcher/shortstop
Kyle Drabek
4. High school third baseman Chris Marrero
5. Bishop Eustace infielder Billy Rowell
6. High school outfielder Matt Sulentic
7. College shortstop Emmanuel Burris
8. High school outfielder Jared Mitchell
9. High school outfielder D'Arby Myers
http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/sports/14748483.htm
TheScooter
06-06-06, 06:24 AM
Scouts Inc. Kevin Law
10. Pedro Beato, RHP, St. Petersburg Junior College
Beato's presence on this list is a huge shock, not because he lacks the talent, but because he was drafted by the Mets last year, giving them a chance to sign him this May as a draft-and-follow. Since Beato is from New York City (Xavieran High School in Brooklyn), it was assumed that he'd leap at the chance to pitch for his local team and start his pro career in his own backyard. To the surprise of just about everyone in the game, it didn't happen, even though the Mets lack a first-round pick. Because Beato was under control and presumed as good as signed, he wasn't heavily scouted this spring, making his destination in the draft an open question. As a prospect, he grades out very well as a potential top-of-the-rotation starter: tall, strong kid (6-6, 220), plus fastball up to 96 mph, average changeup, power curveball in the upper 70s that is inconsistent, with outstanding makeup and good grades to boot. That package in a 19-year-old is rare, and the fact that he's faced good competition in his year in junior college sets him apart from most of the prep arms in this draft. (How good is St. Pete's baseball program? Unless he goes in the top 40 or 50 picks, Dellin Betances, one of the top prep arms in the country -- albeit as raw as beef carpaccio -- is committed to take Beato's place.)
11. Jeremy Jeffress, RHP, Halifax County Senior H.S. (South Boston, Va.)
One of the few true flamethrowers in this year's draft, Jeffress' slim build (6-foot, 175 pounds) belies the quality of his arm. He features an electric fastball that runs up to 97 mph, and he holds his velocity deep into games. His curveball has power but is inconsistent, and he has some feel for a changeup -- unusual even in the best high school pitching prospects. Although his size might be seen as a negative, his fastball velocity and durability are already excellent, so projection isn't an issue.
17. Kyle Drabek, RHP, The Woodlands H.S. (The Woodlands, Texas)
On talent alone, Drabek would rank as the draft's top high school pitching prospect ... and probably its top high school hitting prospect as well, although every insider I spoke with ranked him as a pitcher. Drabek works with a five-pitch repertoire, but his selling points are the mid-90s fastball and an outstanding curve. Oddly enough for the son of a pretty good big-leaguer, Drabek is not a polished pitcher, but is more of a talented arm who'd need some development. But the knocks on Drabek are substantial, from reports calling him "spoiled" to a history of off-field incidents, including a public intoxication charge that was dismissed and a one-car accident in which he rammed his SUV into a tree. Were it not for makeup concerns that have the names Jeff Allison and Josh Hamilton on some people's lips, Drabek would probably go in the top five picks, perhaps as the top pick overall, but one scouting director with whom I spoke called Drabek "the wild card" -- no one knows where he'll go.
18. Chris Marrero, 3B, Monsignor Pace H.S. (Opa Locka, Fla.)
Marrero came into 2006 as the consensus top high school hitter in the draft, but a subpar spring, coupled with strong performances from Snider and Rowell, has pushed Marrero out of a likely top-five slot. In fact, Marrero was overshadowed most of the spring by a teammate, shortstop Adrian Cardenas, a baseball rat who ended up setting a county record for home runs. Marrero remains high on draft boards due to his long history of success playing on the U.S. junior team and at various showcases, and because the plus power is still evident in batting practice. In games this year, however, Marrero has been pulling off the ball, failing to show any power to the opposite field. Of the big three high school bats, Marrero has the best chance to play at a skill position (third base) in the majors
20. Hank Conger, C, Huntington Beach H.S. (Huntington Beach, Calif.)
Hyun "Hank" Conger is the top high school catcher in the country, although he's earned that status largely on the strength of his bat, as there's a lot of doubt about whether he'll stay behind the plate or move to another position, possibly third base (where he played a little bit in high school) or more likely first base. Conger's appeal is that he's a switch-hitter with legitimate power from both sides of the plate; that puts him ahead of the draft's "other" top high school catcher, Max Sapp (Bishop Moore School, Orlando, Fla.), a left-handed power bat with similar questions about his ultimate position
Matt Antonelli, 3B, Wake Forest? A low-upside speedster with below-average power who needs a position change (from third base) doesn't make the cut ... Mark Melancon, RHP, Arizona? Arguably the best college closer this year, Melancon's season ended due to a sprained elbow in early April, which should be enough to push him out of the first round
http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/draft2006/insider/columns/story?columnist=law_keith&id=2470651
albo4lyfe
06-06-06, 06:28 AM
Finally BA puts up the rest of the first round. Has us taking Huff with Jeffress, Morris, and Scherzer available.
21. Yankees: Though owner George Steinbrenner won't give a major league contract to a draftee, New York would select Miller in the unlikely event he gets this far and sign him to the largest bonus in draft history. More realistically, the Yankees could take Huff, the second-best college lefty in the draft. They also could one-up the Mets by taking Beato, who turned down the Mets as a draft-and-follow.
Projected Pick: David Huff, lhp, UCLA.
Supplemental First Round
31. Dodgers: Sean Watson, rhp, Tennessee.
32. Orioles: Emmanuel Burriss, ss, Kent State.
33. Giants: Max Sapp, c, HS/Windermere, Fla.
34. Diamondbacks: Hank Conger, c, HS/Huntington Beach, Calif.
35. Padres: Kyler Burke, of, HS/Chattanooga
36. Marlins: Caleb Clay, rhp, HS/Cullman, Ala.
37. Phillies: Jared Mitchell, of, HS/New Iberia, La.
38. Braves: Cody Johnson, 1b, HS/Panama City, Fla.
39. Indians: Kevin Mulvey, rhp, Villanova.
40. Red Sox: Jeff Locke, lhp, HS/Center Conway, N.H.
41. Yankees: Pedro Beato, rhp, St. Petersburg (Fla.) JC.
42. Cardinals: Ian Kennedy, rhp, Southern California.
43. Braves: Chris Tillman, rhp, HS/Fountain Valley, Calif.
Well, at least we get Beato in the supp. round.
NYDCYankee
06-06-06, 06:40 AM
Finally BA puts up the rest of the first round. Has us taking Huff with Jeffress, Morris, and Scherzer available.
21. Yankees: Though owner George Steinbrenner won't give a major league contract to a draftee, New York would select Miller in the unlikely event he gets this far and sign him to the largest bonus in draft history. More realistically, the Yankees could take Huff, the second-best college lefty in the draft. They also could one-up the Mets by taking Beato, who turned down the Mets as a draft-and-follow.
Projected Pick: David Huff, lhp, UCLA.
Supplemental First Round
31. Dodgers: Sean Watson, rhp, Tennessee.
32. Orioles: Emmanuel Burriss, ss, Kent State.
33. Giants: Max Sapp, c, HS/Windermere, Fla.
34. Diamondbacks: Hank Conger, c, HS/Huntington Beach, Calif.
35. Padres: Kyler Burke, of, HS/Chattanooga
36. Marlins: Caleb Clay, rhp, HS/Cullman, Ala.
37. Phillies: Jared Mitchell, of, HS/New Iberia, La.
38. Braves: Cody Johnson, 1b, HS/Panama City, Fla.
39. Indians: Kevin Mulvey, rhp, Villanova.
40. Red Sox: Jeff Locke, lhp, HS/Center Conway, N.H.
41. Yankees: Pedro Beato, rhp, St. Petersburg (Fla.) JC.
42. Cardinals: Ian Kennedy, rhp, Southern California.
43. Braves: Chris Tillman, rhp, HS/Fountain Valley, Calif.
Well, at least we get Beato in the supp. round.
Who did they have in the 5 picks after the Yankees selection?
albo4lyfe
06-06-06, 06:43 AM
22. Sean Black
23. Brett Sinkbeil
24. Jeremy Jeffress
25. Colton Willems
26. Bryan Morris
NYDCYankee
06-06-06, 06:45 AM
22. Sean Black
23. Brett Sinkbeil
24. Jeremy Jeffress
25. Colton Willems
26. Bryan Morris
Now I don't know as much as you guys, but from what I have read I think I would rather have Jeffress at 21 and Beato at 41. That sounds real solid to me.
38Special
06-06-06, 07:19 AM
what a letdown to wake up to
that being said, if Miller falls to us like it sounds like he wants to, i definitely take him. He's a better pick than Huff and I could care less how much money they spend
With the slight chance now that Miller might fall, my excitement for today has greatly increased
NYDCYankee
06-06-06, 07:56 AM
what a letdown to wake up to
that being said, if Miller falls to us like it sounds like he wants to, i definitely take him. He's a better pick than Huff and I could care less how much money they spend
Does it look like noone wants to pay what he wants?
Wouldn't whoever would take Hochover just take Miller instead, if they are willing to pay the money?
Texas, Seattle, Detroit?
Yankees1962
06-06-06, 08:12 AM
With the slight chance now that Miller might fall, my excitement for today has greatly increased
A very slight chance. I don't see it happening.
NYDCYankee
06-06-06, 08:17 AM
http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article_perspectives.jsp?ymd=20060605&content_id=1489090&vkey=perspectives&fext=.jsp
Has Miller going to Arizona at 11.
Yankees1962
06-06-06, 08:33 AM
Why do I have a feeling that many around here are going to be disppointed about the draft results?
yank4life2005
06-06-06, 08:39 AM
I recall last year, all the experts had Craig Hansen going in the top 10 and had the Mets selecting him but he continued to fall all the way to the Red Sox.
The draft is unpredictable and I have faith in the input of Brian Cashman this year with Damon Oppenmeir (sp?) running the board.
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