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38Special
04-23-06, 07:38 PM
Contact rates in the DSL are a good thing to observe. And Rios was raving about Sanchez's defense, not offense. He said his bat was "okay"
Yanks21
04-23-06, 07:59 PM
He'll sign with the Dodgers. This is a tactic that Scott Boras uses and we will see who blinks firs either the Dodgers or Boras.
Hochevar torched that bridge with the Dodgers...
He'll cost a lot of money to sign, but he could be worth it. I'm curious to see how he works out prior to the draft...
yank4life2005
04-23-06, 08:06 PM
Things have gone pretty bad between the Dodgers and Hochevar. I doubt he signs.
I had no idea this was the situation.
Isn't this the pitcher that had agreed to a deal in principle with the Dodgers and at the last minute hired Scott Boras and asked for a much higher amount?
Hasn't he been hurt in the past?
I wonder if NY would sign someone like this with a huge bonus I would imagine if he lasts to the 3rd or 4th rounds.
sugmasterflex
04-23-06, 08:51 PM
Contact rates in the DSL are a good thing to observe. And Rios was raving about Sanchez's defense, not offense. He said his bat was "okay"
I know, but I'd much rather have a defense first catcher than the other way around. Nunez batted almost 100 points above his DSL average in SI and Angel Fermin made much better contact when he came to the States.
38Special
04-23-06, 09:01 PM
The history on college guys who hold out and don't pitch for a year isn't very good
homer2931
04-23-06, 09:08 PM
The history on college guys who hold out and don't pitch for a year isn't very good
Really? How many times has something like that happened?
bmxstreetrider86
04-23-06, 09:54 PM
just look at wade townsend from last year
he was drafted 7 overall 2 years in a row and held out the first, signed in the second, and then promptly injured his arm and required tommy john
jareddudleyfanclub
04-23-06, 10:05 PM
That is so anecdotal its not even worth mentioning. That has post-hoc fallacy written all over it. Just because he held out and got injured does not mean they have anything to do with each other or that it is a trend that will continue.
bmxstreetrider86
04-23-06, 10:21 PM
well when you take a year off of pitching then your arm strength deteriorates, and you are more likely to get injured
jareddudleyfanclub
04-24-06, 12:01 AM
Yeah because he i am sure that he wouldnt work out in that time and throw a lot and be ready.
bmxstreetrider86
04-24-06, 12:50 AM
its called "game shape" for a reason
well, when a person is used to going out and competeing at a high scale D1 school, pitchin in a cage means little . he didnt tax himself, he did not throw with game intensity, and he did face real hitters and have to throw to spots
there is a huge difference from pitching in a game and throwing in a cage
im not saying that it is the only reason, but it certainly had something to do with it
homer2931
04-24-06, 05:07 PM
well when you take a year off of pitching then your arm strength deteriorates, and you are more likely to get injured
I thought Townsend went to college for the next year?
Would it have been any different than the layoff between college seasons normally? (Or did he not play summer baseball and he usuaully does)?
bmxstreetrider86
04-24-06, 06:29 PM
he didnt play for the team though, he went back to finish his degree
i font think he was eligible to play, might have signed with an agent
sugmasterflex
04-25-06, 02:55 AM
http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/highschool/features/261104.html
ICEBERG18
04-25-06, 06:33 PM
For all the holes in Cody Johnson's swing, that list doesnt seem to indicate it, saying...: "Continues his hot hitting and is now hitting .500 (29-58) with 13 HR, 6 doubles, 38 RBI, 40 R, 24 BB, 7 K, and 10 SB."
As I said, Adam Dunn but a better athlete
If you're right on him, I'll give you your props. Brett Anderson would be a good/safe pick at #21.
bmxstreetrider86
04-25-06, 06:45 PM
i believe anderson would be the best pick if he is there
reminds me a little of pettite
Hidekifan57
04-25-06, 08:16 PM
Besides what BA has written, and they are right on, I have heard terrible things about Anderson's athleticism. I just wouldn't feel too great about drafting an unathletic guy.
bmxstreetrider86
04-25-06, 08:23 PM
i guess, but until recently i hadnt heard to much about him being unathletic
maybe he put on some weight or something correctable
i just like projectable LHP :)
Hidekifan57
04-25-06, 08:27 PM
I do like Anderson, but I'd take Latos or Tillman before him.
bmxstreetrider86
04-25-06, 09:41 PM
i agree, but i dont feel tillman will be there, and im not sure latos will be either
if i felt i could get anderson at 41, i would take latos or tillman in a heartbeat
http://yankees.scout.com/2/524006.html
Iknowcool
04-26-06, 02:26 PM
Luke Hochlevar has signed with the Fort Worth Cats of the independent American Association, he should get five or six starts in before draft day.
sugmasterflex
04-30-06, 08:19 PM
New rankings are out:
http://www.brewerfan.net/ViewDraftArchive.do?draftId=4
Some have moved up (Lincoln, Kershaw, Willems), others have slipped down (Marrero, Walden, Latos).
Did Bard drop to? I don't remember him being as low as #17.
Dallas Buck is completely out of the first round. Although he beat Morrow last time out.
Posada_20
05-01-06, 08:41 AM
Would love to see Bard drop down to us.
sugmasterflex
05-01-06, 10:56 AM
Would love to see Bard drop down to us.
Bard has been inconsistent and has not made the proper adjustments.
AustinTXHorn
05-01-06, 11:27 AM
Bard has been inconsistent and has not made the proper adjustments.
He scares me. Any pitcher that has stuff that good and an ERA of over 4 in his third year of college is strange. Reminds me of Mark McCormick a bit. Still, he's not too bad for a bottom of the first round guy.
Can anybody figure out why Jordan Walden is dropping so much? He went from top 10 lock to first round fringe.
bmxstreetrider86
05-01-06, 01:04 PM
Bard.....i would not touch him with a ten foot pole....good stuff, poor control, doesnt get people out well enough in college...there are too many quality HS arms in the draft to waste our time with Bard
walden.....i believe he has had some injury problems this year...not a bad thing we might be able to steal him in the 4th or 5th round
Iknowcool
05-01-06, 01:45 PM
The royals are seriously thinking about Lincecum with the #1 overall pick.
jerez23
05-01-06, 02:28 PM
The royals are seriously thinking about Lincecum with the #1 overall pick.
The Rockies are hoping that's the case. They are drooling for Andrew Miller.
ICEBERG18
05-01-06, 02:30 PM
Bard.....i would not touch him with a ten foot pole....good stuff, poor control, doesnt get people out well enough in college...there are too many quality HS arms in the draft to waste our time with Bard
I agree.
Johnny Blaze
05-01-06, 04:14 PM
sounds like the Royals have zeroed in on Lincecum, they've had their GM and/or Asst Gm's at his last few starts while the Rockies would probably prefer Miller at #2 over Morrow.
AustinTXHorn
05-01-06, 07:27 PM
walden.....i believe he has had some injury problems this year...not a bad thing we might be able to steal him in the 4th or 5th round
If he were to fall that far, it wouldn't surprise me for him to demand first round money to sign or else he goes to Texas.
jareddudleyfanclub
05-01-06, 07:28 PM
So just give him that money. The yankees can afford to do it. I would prefer they try to do that a few times every draft
BomberBrian
05-01-06, 08:37 PM
I'd be more than happy with Bard at 21.
38Special
05-01-06, 08:38 PM
I'd be more than happy with Bard at 17.
Are you kidding?
BomberBrian
05-01-06, 08:43 PM
Last 3 outings:
22 ip
13 h
1 er
7 bb
19 k
He was in a funk and pitched his way out of it.
I'm not saying he is my #1 target but i wouldn't be upset if we took him.
bmxstreetrider86
05-01-06, 11:54 PM
thye problem is that those ar probably the best 3 starts of his career.....he really isnt worth the hype
Steph19
05-03-06, 11:02 AM
Hometown hero Dellin Betances continues to mow 'em down.
http://www.newsday.com/sports/golf/ny-qhrup024726071may02,0,974903.story?coll=ny-golf-print
Senior righthander Dellin Betances pitched a complete-game two-hitter with a school-record 20 strikeouts as Grand Street Campus defeated John Adams, 5-0, in baseball yesterday. Betances took a no-hitter into the seventh. He struck out the first two batters before allowing a two-out double to Jesse Cardenas. Betances has 37 strikeouts in his last two outings, both shutouts, and has not allowed an earned run in 17 innings. The 6-9, 225-pounder is 5-0 with two saves, a 0.26 ERA and 105 strikeouts in 40 innings. Grand Street is 16-6, 9-1 Queens A-West. Adams is 6-2.
I really, really hope he lasts 'til 21.
Hometown hero Dellin Betances continues to mow 'em down.
http://www.newsday.com/sports/golf/ny-qhrup024726071may02,0,974903.story?coll=ny-golf-print
I really, really hope he lasts 'til 21.
So much for the "he's falling because he hasn't been impressive senior year" rumors.
bmxstreetrider86
05-03-06, 04:33 PM
i think he will be our first round pick
id like us look into gavin brooks and brandon belt, 2 LHP with good stuff and projectability.
sugmasterflex
05-03-06, 10:38 PM
Hometown hero Dellin Betances continues to mow 'em down.
http://www.newsday.com/sports/golf/ny-qhrup024726071may02,0,974903.story?coll=ny-golf-print
I really, really hope he lasts 'til 21.
I really want to know what his walk totals are. Don't forget he's facing below average competition.
sugmasterflex
05-03-06, 10:41 PM
i think he will be our first round pick
id like us look into gavin brooks and brandon belt, 2 LHP with good stuff and projectability.
Both good, both difficult signs. I prefer Belt because he has more projectability.
bmxstreetrider86
05-03-06, 11:09 PM
i concur
bmxstreetrider86
05-04-06, 02:40 AM
1st -Marrero 3B- i see a run on prep pitching that lets marrero drop into our laps, he hasnt been as good as expected this year so far
1st Sup - Betances RHP- dont think any teams but NYY will take him in the first
3rd-Cardenas SS/2B- Marrero's teammate who is out performing him to date, projects as an offensivly minded 2B
4th-Brandon Belt LHP- big lefty with great potential and projectability, committed to texas, which is hard to buy out of, but would be worth it
late round attemps:
Gavin Brooks LHP- injured this year, good stuff and projectable
Riley Cooper CF-toolsy CF, possible, but not likley
thats my little yankees mock draft, i would have no qualms if it played out like that
sugmasterflex
05-04-06, 10:31 AM
1st -Marrero 3B- i see a run on prep pitching that lets marrero drop into our laps, he hasnt been as good as expected this year so far
1st Sup - Betances RHP- dont think any teams but NYY will take him in the first
3rd-Cardenas SS/2B- Marrero's teammate who is out performing him to date, projects as an offensivly minded 2B
4th-Brandon Belt LHP- big lefty with great potential and projectability, committed to texas, which is hard to buy out of, but would be worth it
late round attemps:
Gavin Brooks LHP- injured this year, good stuff and projectable
Riley Cooper CF-toolsy CF, possible, but not likley
thats my little yankees mock draft, i would have no qualms if it played out like that
It's early for final projections, but this what I think at this point:
1st: Colton Willems or Chris Marrero. Still don't really know who to pick from these two. Willems brings mid-90's heat along with a plus curve and excellent control. He's also one of the youngest players in the draft (doesn't turn 18 until the end of July).
Marrero is a 4-5 tool player, the tool in question being his speed. Marrero's frame has been compared to A-Rod's. Projected to play GG defense at 3B with a great bat. Right now I'm leaning towards Willems.
Supp: Josh Thrailkill. Projectable with a good fastball and secondary offerings.
3rd: Brandon Belt. If we wait until the 4th, Houston may draft him.
4th: Jared Mitchell. Risky but signable. Amongst the youngest ( doesn't turn 18 until late in the year).
ICEBERG18
05-04-06, 07:28 PM
The hottest high school player in the country off the stat sheets isn’t Sulentic but probably Virginia RHP Jeremy Jeffress (Halifax County HS). Jeffress was 95-98 mph in a couple of late April starts with an improved curveball and there were reports that he touched 100 a couple of times in another start May 2. “He’s scratching the top 10 in the draft,” commented a National League cross checker, “and you would have never thought about that early in the year.
http://www.pgcrosschecker.com/draft/dr_06_05_03_draftnotebook_dr.aspx (http://www.pgcrosschecker.com/draft/dr_06_05_03_draftnotebook_dr.aspx)
Prospectus Preview Of The Draft.
The Tigers and the Dodgers select six and seventh, respectively, and both teams are heavily scouting a pair of high school arms that have pitched very well in the second half of the season. Detroit is beginning to lean heavily towards Dallas-area lefthander Clayton Kershaw, who one scouting director compares to "Scott Kazmir with much more of a classic pitching frame." The Dodgers have been out in full force to see the quickest riser in recent weeks, Virginia prep righthander Jeremy Jeffress. Two days ago, in front of a horde of scouts, Jeffress delivered 15 pitches that registered as 97 or 98 mph on one scout's radar gun, and showed good command and a solid curveball.
By the way, its a pay article.<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START-->
www.baseballprospectus.co...cleid=5041 (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=5041)<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END-->
The hottest high school player in the country off the stat sheets isn’t Sulentic but probably Virginia RHP Jeremy Jeffress (Halifax County HS). Jeffress was 95-98 mph in a couple of late April starts with an improved curveball and there were reports that he touched 100 a couple of times in another start May 2. “He’s scratching the top 10 in the draft,” commented a National League cross checker, “and you would have never thought about that early in the year.
http://www.pgcrosschecker.com/draft/dr_06_05_03_draftnotebook_dr.aspx (http://www.pgcrosschecker.com/draft/dr_06_05_03_draftnotebook_dr.aspx)
Prospectus Preview Of The Draft.
The Tigers and the Dodgers select six and seventh, respectively, and both teams are heavily scouting a pair of high school arms that have pitched very well in the second half of the season. Detroit is beginning to lean heavily towards Dallas-area lefthander Clayton Kershaw, who one scouting director compares to "Scott Kazmir with much more of a classic pitching frame." The Dodgers have been out in full force to see the quickest riser in recent weeks, Virginia prep righthander Jeremy Jeffress. Two days ago, in front of a horde of scouts, Jeffress delivered 15 pitches that registered as 97 or 98 mph on one scout's radar gun, and showed good command and a solid curveball.
By the way, its a pay article.<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START-->
www.baseballprospectus.co...cleid=5041 (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=5041)<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END-->
Damnit he was falling in the Brewerfan rankings and I was hoping he could make it to our second pick. Not so likely now.
38Special
05-04-06, 07:36 PM
100 at age 17 = TJ x 2
ICEBERG18
05-04-06, 07:36 PM
100 at age 17 = TJ x 2
:lol:
bmxstreetrider86
05-04-06, 08:54 PM
It's early for final projections, but this what I think at this point:
1st: Colton Willems or Chris Marrero. Still don't really know who to pick from these two. Willems brings mid-90's heat along with a plus curve and excellent control. He's also one of the youngest players in the draft (doesn't turn 18 until the end of July).
Marrero is a 4-5 tool player, the tool in question being his speed. Marrero's frame has been compared to A-Rod's. Projected to play GG defense at 3B with a great bat. Right now I'm leaning towards Willems.
Supp: Josh Thrailkill. Projectable with a good fastball and secondary offerings.
3rd: Brandon Belt. If we wait until the 4th, Houston may draft him.
4th: Jared Mitchell. Risky but signable. Amongst the youngest ( doesn't turn 18 until late in the year).
that wasnt my final projection, i just was bored and wanted to think it out
upon reading your post i offer my opinion
i think willems will be gone, but if he is not he would be a good pick.
i just think marrero as a possible 5 tool player is tood good to pass up, GG caliber D, good offense
admitedly i dont no much about thrashkill, but upon further reading i have stumbled across a scout who thought tillman was not a first round guy. i would like tillman at 41
agree moving belt to the third, mitchell is a good pick, but i would wait till the 5-7 round
so my new hope is
1st- Marrero- probably the best HS hitter, but is the total package with great D, speed is only question that keeps him from being a legit 5 tool player
1st Sup- Tillman- scouts say that if he is taken early, its purely on projection. this is a pick we can afford to take
3rd- Belt- great stuff and projectability
4th- Ardenas- i just think this could be a sleeper pick, not only getting a good player but would help ease the transition to pro ball for marrero and himself
5th- mitchell- athletic toolsy OF fits in with opur current system approach
sugmasterflex
05-05-06, 02:06 AM
i think willems will be gone, but if he is not he would be a good pick.
mitchell is a good pick, but i would wait till the 5-7 round
With the recent developments, Willems would probably the 5th or 6th pitcher taken, depending on how much teams love Betances. It could go in this order: Kershaw, Anderson, Drabek, Jeffres, Betances, Willems. In the '04 draft, similar in talent to this year's prep pitching, the order was Rogers, Bailey, Elbert, and Hughes. Hughes was the 4h one off the board and was picked at #23. My point is that there is at least an average chance Willems falls to us.
Concerning Mitchell, the Cubs don't have a pick after their pick in the 1st until the 5th round. They may decide to spend the $$ required to draft a risk like Mitchell in that slot, especially since they missed out on rounds 2-4.
bmxstreetrider86
05-05-06, 02:39 AM
yea.
i think that would be a poor decision on the cubs part, because at 13 the are almost assured of a top pitcher, which i dont think they will pass on
and i dont think that mitchell is a top 15 talent
why not go early on marrero or johnson if they want a high upside HS player?
jerez23
05-05-06, 11:04 AM
Cody Johnson has just finished his season. I know he has gone down in eyes of some of my fellow Yankee fans as a potential draft pick but this is how he finished.
AB 67
AVG .522
HRS 15
RBIS 43
BB 32
SO 8
Kulish29
05-05-06, 11:43 AM
Cody Johnson has just finished his season. I know he has gone down in eyes of some of my fellow Yankee fans as a potential draft pick but this is how he finished.
AB 67
AVG .522
HRS 15
RBIS 43
BB 32
SO 8
If he's there in the supp round, I'd be tempted to take him. The 1st round should be the best pitcher that falls to us.
Kulish29
05-05-06, 11:44 AM
Any chance Brett Anderson falls to us?
What do some of you think about Kasey Kiker?
jerez23
05-05-06, 12:13 PM
Any chance Brett Anderson falls to us?
What do some of you think about Kasey Kiker?
Brett Anderson committed to going to Oklahoma State, LHP, 6' 4", 210lbs.
Throws around 92-93 MPH. In a game earlier in the year he K'd 16 and walked none
Kasey Kiker committed to going to U. of South Alabama, LHP, 5' 11", 185Lbs
He pithed only 3 IP in his last outing (4/27) and had 7K's. He was in the low 90's
IP 57
K 118
ERA 0.61
He was said to throw as hard as 97mph earlier in the year
I like the fact that thay are both lefties. I can see Kiker making it down to #21. Anderson was the preseason #3 ranked H.S. prospect in nation.
Posada_20
05-05-06, 12:41 PM
If both Jeffress and Betances are there at #21, which one would you take?
jerez23
05-05-06, 01:05 PM
If both Jeffress and Betances are there at #21, which one would you take?
Jeffress (RHP-6' 1", 180lbs) threw a no-hitter on (5/1) and the radar had him throwing in the upper 90's with good control. He was throwing 93 back in March in the cold weather.
I think if had the choice I would go with Betances even though the success rate for tall pitchers isn't as good as pitchers with Jeffress' height. I think Betances can sustain his stuff better in the long run.
IrishYankee
05-05-06, 03:19 PM
Those numbers on Cody are incredible. But that swing.....................
JamieMadrox
05-05-06, 03:28 PM
Those numbers on Cody are incredible. But that swing.....................
don't read into HS numbers.
38Special
05-05-06, 03:38 PM
What's wrong with his swing? If he has these supposedly holes wouldnt he be striking out? Even against poor competition
jerez23
05-05-06, 03:54 PM
Cody stock has gone down since the beginning of the year with posters on this sight. I have never seen his swing so I can't comment. Everything I have read on Cody has been good. He has played on all-star teams and done very well against top notch high school competition at those all star tournaments. I'll say this and it will probably get me some grief around here considering he looks like a bust. However the Yanks chose Jon Potersen in the sandwich round a few years back and Cody is ten times the prospect he was. Cody is going to go in the first round to somebody. Check out the players he beat out for the award below. Familiar names.
http://www.globeinvestor.com/servlet/ArticleNews/story/PRNEWS/20050811/2005_08_11_21_1102_1423951
njdhockey
05-05-06, 04:27 PM
When is the draft?
Yanks21
05-05-06, 06:04 PM
If both Jeffress and Betances are there at #21, which one would you take?
I love Jeffress. However, I think you have to go with Betances...
bmxstreetrider86
05-05-06, 06:13 PM
i dont think betances is going in the first round
he is a 1st Sup/2nd rounder.....too much projection
sugmasterflex
05-05-06, 08:16 PM
yea.
i think that would be a poor decision on the cubs part, because at 13 the are almost assured of a top pitcher, which i dont think they will pass on
and i dont think that mitchell is a top 15 talent
why not go early on marrero or johnson if they want a high upside HS player?
No, I mean he may picked in the 5th by the Cubs, not the first.
bmxstreetrider86
05-05-06, 08:28 PM
o ok
that sounds more likely......i just dont want to formualte my draft strategy based on what other teams might do.....i would rather have a power hitting middle infielder instead of speedy/leadoff CF.....thats just a preference of mine
IrishYankee
05-05-06, 08:40 PM
His swing has a loop or a hitch, depending on what you want to call it. If you lined him up beside Tabata for example, you should see the difference in that he doesn't keep his bat on a level plane when he goes the strike zone.
Now I saw him prior to this season. It is possible he changed it before this season. In fact looking at those numbers I think he must have.
By the way, a milder case of what I'm talking about is what Vech seems to have been working on this season.
albo4lyfe
05-06-06, 12:39 AM
When is the draft?
June 7th.
Fabien Brandy
05-06-06, 11:38 AM
I see the Yankees grabbing Willems/Latos/Tillman with pick one and then gratefully nabbing Max Scherzer in the supplemental round after the combination of niggling injuries and Scott Boras make him this year's Hochevar.
BomberBrian
05-06-06, 11:45 AM
Hochevar starts an exhibition game for the Cats on monday and then a regular season game next saturday.
Interested in seeing what he's got.
AustinTXHorn
05-06-06, 01:18 PM
Both good, both difficult signs. I prefer Belt because he has more projectability.
I've been told that Belt is definitely going to demand first round money to get him to sign.
Hopefully someone cheap drafts him. ;)
bmxstreetrider86
05-06-06, 06:08 PM
I've been told that Belt is definitely going to demand first round money to get him to sign.
Hopefully someone cheap drafts him. ;)
hopefully we draft him.....he might end up being the best lefty in this years draft
sugmasterflex
05-06-06, 06:44 PM
I've been told that Belt is definitely going to demand first round money to get him to sign.
Hopefully someone cheap drafts him. ;)
First round money? Give it to him. Right now, on talent alone, Belt falls into the supplemental slot. The only reason he will probably fall a couple of rounds is because of the committment to Texas.
Yanks21
05-07-06, 07:09 PM
FWIW, Tim Lincecum may have cemented himself as the #1 pick after out dueling Dallas Buck and Oregon State on Friday. Lincecum became the all time Pac 10 leader in strike outs. He had 16 on Friday...
Dallas Buck is having a very good season, but he may have slipped out of the first round. His velocity is down a bit, and it's hurt his stock. Some team is going to get a steal in the supplemental round...
http://www.cstv.com/sports/m-basebl/stories/050506ady.html
Hidekifan57
05-07-06, 07:20 PM
I won't believe it until I see it. Miller is the guy you gotta take #1.
BomberBrian
05-07-06, 07:33 PM
a 6'7" lefty or a 6'0" 160 lb righty.
i'll take miller.
homer2931
05-07-06, 08:29 PM
I won't believe it until I see it. Miller is the guy you gotta take #1.
You really think the Royals can make 3 good draft picks in a row? They'll screw it up
bmxstreetrider86
05-07-06, 10:48 PM
the only reason miller doesnt go #1 is if the royals cheap out.....which is definatly a possibility
Johnny Blaze
05-08-06, 12:51 AM
I heard Lincecum was asking for big $$ last yr, probably why the Indians didnt sign him (I'm guessing they may be wishing now they DID) I dont know that I'd assume he is going to want anything less than what any other # 1 pick would get, so if the Royals are gonna go cheap shouldnt they go after someone who is rated more as a top 5-10 overall pick or a HS kid (ala Matt Bush)?
bmxstreetrider86
05-08-06, 02:40 AM
i wouldnt be suprised if they took drabek or kershaw, longoria might be a dark horse as well, whoever it is will be likely to sign for slot money, cause there is no way the royals can give out less than that
Yanks21
05-08-06, 06:53 PM
I heard Lincecum was asking for big $$ last yr, probably why the Indians didnt sign him (I'm guessing they may be wishing now they DID) I dont know that I'd assume he is going to want anything less than what any other # 1 pick would get, so if the Royals are gonna go cheap shouldnt they go after someone who is rated more as a top 5-10 overall pick or a HS kid (ala Matt Bush)?
With the season he's having, Lincecum is firmly within the top 5-10...
Johnny Blaze
05-08-06, 07:09 PM
Actually I think he is going in the top 3 probably, and it sounds like he may honestly be the # 1 pick, but if the Royals are looking to go "cheap" why does anyone think it would be Lincecum? I have no idea who his agent is but I thought I remembered last yr that the kid was asking for big $$ and that's why he slipped as a sophomore eligible? So if you're KC, and you are going "cheap", don't you target someone who is more like a 5-10 overall guy and try and cut a deal ?
Michaels07
05-09-06, 04:13 PM
Ryan Kalish LHP and OF out of Red Bank Catholic Shrewsbury NJ could be headed for the Yanks, best baseball player in the State of NJ. Will be drafted by the third round. Has a full boat to Virginia
jerez23
05-09-06, 04:16 PM
Hochevar starts an exhibition game for the Cats on monday and then a regular season game next saturday.
Interested in seeing what he's got.
According to BA:
Scouts were impressed with Hochevar. His fastball topped at 97 MPH. He made the hitters look bad. These hitters were better than the ones he faced in college the article stated.
Fabien Brandy
05-09-06, 05:57 PM
According to BA:
Scouts were impressed with Hochevar. His fastball topped at 97 MPH. He made the hitters look bad. These hitters were better than the ones he faced in college the article stated.It'd be interesting is Hochevar and Scherzer fell to the Yankees in rounds 1 and 1A. They could have two ML ready guys within a year.
BomberBrian
05-09-06, 06:57 PM
that would be an outstanding draft in my opinion.
AustinTXHorn
05-10-06, 02:36 PM
Jonathan Mayo projects the top 10: http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article_perspectives.jsp?ymd=20060509&content_id=1444921&vkey=perspectives&fext=.jsp
1. Tim Lincecum, Washington
2. Andrew Miller, UNC
3. Evan Longoria, Long Beach
4. Brandon Morrow, Cal
5. Brad Lincoln, Houston
6. Clayton Kershaw, Dallas (HS)
7. Jeremy Jeffress, Virginia (HS)
8. Drew Stubbs, Texas
9. Bill Rowell, New Jersey (HS)
10. Daniel Bard, UNC
Kulish29
05-10-06, 02:41 PM
Jonathan Mayo projects the top 10: http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article_perspectives.jsp?ymd=20060509&content_id=1444921&vkey=perspectives&fext=.jsp
1. Tim Lincecum, Washington
2. Andrew Miller, UNC
3. Evan Longoria, Long Beach
4. Brandon Morrow, Cal
5. Brad Lincoln, Houston
6. Clayton Kershaw, Dallas (HS)
7. Jeremy Jeffress, Virginia (HS)
8. Drew Stubbs, Texas
9. Bill Rowell, New Jersey (HS)
10. Daniel Bard, UNC
Andrew Miller is going #1, I dont care what anyone says.
bmxstreetrider86
05-10-06, 03:04 PM
i dont no about rowell at 9 or bard at 10
i think drabek goes before jeffress
DaYanks4Life
05-10-06, 03:24 PM
With all the varied opinions about this up coming draft, someone is bound to mess up and allow a premium prospect fall to us at 21 and 41. I'm expecting for the Yanks to draft aggressively and pull out another top draft.
bmxstreetrider86
05-10-06, 03:32 PM
i agree.
i think drabek and kershaw go in the top 10
i think that between picks 11-18 there is going to be a run on prep pitching
anderson
latos
walden
jeffress
willems
tillman
possibly kikler
with some college arms and positions players sprinkled in
i believe marerro is going to drop to us in the first round which would be a no brainer unless a prep pitcher who is too good to pass up falls to us
AustinTXHorn
05-10-06, 03:35 PM
The thing that has me most interested in the first round might just be where Max Scherzer gets drafted. Before he ran into some injury problems this year, he was a solid top 5 guy for sure.
But he's now back from injury and he's pitched well since coming back. He seems to have fallen out of top 10 consideration because of it.
jerez23
05-10-06, 03:48 PM
One thing that concerns me is that alot of "experts" are saying this is the worst draft class since 2000. I took a look back and there were alot 1st round busts (Baldelli & Utley are the exceptions). However there were jewels in the later rounds. The Cubs got Dontrelle in the 8th round and the D-Backs got Brandon Webb in the 8th round, Grady Sizemore in the 3rd round. These are just 3 examples and there are others. My point is I think the Yankees should go heavy after high ceiling raw high school talent in the later rounds since these college guys seem to be a little underwhelming. The Yanks went with 9 college players out of their first 10 picks in 2000. Jeremy King was the lone H.S. out of the bunch.
1. David Parrish, c Michigan
2. Danny Borrell, lhp Wake Forest
3. Jason Grove, of Washington State
4. Matt Smith, lhp Oklahoma State
5. Andy Beal, lhp Vanderbilt
6. Jeremy King, rhp DeSoto HS, Nocatee, Fla.
7. Mitch Jones, of Arizona State
8. Sam Bozanich, 2b Alabama
9. Eric Reynolds, lhp Itawamba (Miss.) JC
10. Jason Anderson, rhp Illinois
38Special
05-10-06, 03:57 PM
Andrew Miller is going #1, I dont care what anyone says.
Never doubt the stupidity of the Royals
Kulish29
05-10-06, 04:00 PM
Never doubt the stupidity of the Royals
I cant see how anyone can be that stupid. If that happens, the Royals should be contracted.
Hidekifan57
05-10-06, 04:14 PM
Don't be shocked at all if Rowell goes that high. He's the guy I'm praying falls to the Yankees.
bmxstreetrider86
05-10-06, 04:37 PM
i like rowell, but im more of a marrero guy myself. i like his all around game
Hidekifan57
05-10-06, 04:49 PM
To me, Rowell has a far superior all around game. More speed and better potential in the field. Plus he's a big lefty bat.
bmxstreetrider86
05-10-06, 05:33 PM
im gonna have to disagree with him being a better fielder
i think marrero is a GG caliber defender and think he is more polished than rowell
but i do like rowell's all around game and think he is gonna be a good player
ICEBERG18
05-10-06, 07:36 PM
Don't be shocked at all if Rowell goes that high. He's the guy I'm praying falls to the Yankees.
His swing reminds me of Barry Bonds's swing.
http://www.perfectgame.org/players/PlayerProfile.aspx?id=10840&showcaseID=05nata (http://www.perfectgame.org/players/PlayerProfile.aspx?id=10840&showcaseID=05nata)
The FUTURE
05-10-06, 08:35 PM
IF we got Chris Marerro, do we convert him into a LF ??
38Special
05-10-06, 08:53 PM
His swing reminds me of Barry Bonds's swing.
http://www.perfectgame.org/players/PlayerProfile.aspx?id=10840&showcaseID=05nata (http://www.perfectgame.org/players/PlayerProfile.aspx?id=10840&showcaseID=05nata)
whoaaa thats pretty
bmxstreetrider86
05-10-06, 08:57 PM
IF we got Chris Marerro, do we convert him into a LF ??
i dont think so, he is a very very good defender where he is
i no he is blocked by A-Rod, but they would worry about that later
sugmasterflex
05-10-06, 09:10 PM
Whoa! Rowell came out of nowhere. Video shows a good swing and smooth infield actions. I definitely would like it if the Yanks get a shot at him.
Hidekifan57
05-10-06, 09:32 PM
I didn't realize Rowell's swing was that pretty. Very compact and incredibly similar to Bonds.
38Special
05-10-06, 10:06 PM
Damn Rowell is smart. 2.8 GPA and 980 on his SATs. Maybe he could teach Moose a thing or two :lol:
Damn Rowell is smart. 2.8 GPA and 980 on his SATs. Maybe he could teach Moose a thing or two :lol:
Or maybe he could help DeSalvo with his novel.
yankeetke
05-10-06, 11:34 PM
Is the 980 on the new scale of 2400? Because if thats the case then its even lower then I thought at first.
DaYanks4Life
05-10-06, 11:49 PM
Is the 980 on the new scale of 2400? Because if thats the case then its even lower then I thought at first.
No, its on a scale to 980. ;)
jerez23
05-11-06, 03:09 PM
The wizard of Peter Gammons believes Luke Hochevar can be a top 10 pick if the Dodgers don't sign him. So I doubt the Yanks will be able to get him. In the same article Matt Harrington is throwing about 85 MPH now. What a shame.
27IsNext
05-11-06, 03:20 PM
Any good catchers that we could maybe get with that supplemental pick?
Kulish29
05-11-06, 03:23 PM
The wizard of Peter Gammons believes Luke Hochevar can be a top 10 pick if the Dodgers don't sign him. So I doubt the Yanks will be able to get him. In the same article Matt Harrington is throwing about 85 MPH now. What a shame.
I dont think there's anyway he goes top ten. Teams are going to be scared of Scott Boras and the crap that happend with the Dodgers.
IMO, he goes late 1st or early to mid 1st-supp.
jerez23
05-11-06, 03:24 PM
Any good catchers that we could maybe get with that supplemental pick?
None that warrant that high of a pick.
Snatch Catch
05-11-06, 03:25 PM
Damn Rowell is smart. 2.8 GPA and 980 on his SATs. Maybe he could teach Moose a thing or two :lol:
2.8 and 980 is smart?
jerez23
05-11-06, 03:29 PM
I dont think there's anyway he goes top ten. Teams are going to be scared of Scott Boras and the crap that happend with the Dodgers.
IMO, he goes late 1st or early to mid 1st-supp.
That's what I thought too. However GM's and scouts are saying that the talent pool in this draft is weak. This is why a talent like Hochevar can move up the in the first round. I think he turned down about $3M last year. Being picked in the top 10 could warrant that kind of bonus if he is picked there. Wade Townsend sat out year and was picked by the D-Rays with 7th pick a few years ago. I think Hochevar is better than he is.
38Special
05-11-06, 04:35 PM
2.8 and 980 is smart?
Maybe for you considering your grasp of the sarcasm ;)
jerez23
05-12-06, 03:28 PM
http://www.baseballamerica.com/chat/chat.php?id=2006051201
Some draft tidbits
<TABLE class=small cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=0><TBODY><TR vAlign=top><TD align=middle width=35>Q: </TD><TD>Greg from LA asks:
Assuming that Hocheaver goes in the top 10 (giving that this is a weak draft), do you think that Boros' strategy was correct?</TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=2>http://www.baseballamerica.com/chat/assets/space_clear.gif</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD align=middle width=35> A: </TD><TD>Moderator: There's just more that goes into it than what kind of bonus Hochevar might get. How will the layoff affect his arm? Will he ever have the control and command he had before, which was the main reason he was a first-round talent? Those questions won't be answered until long after he signs. But if the bonus is the be-all, end-all, then yeah, I think the strategy will work, because he could re-enter a draft that lacks top-shelf talent.
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<TABLE class=small cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=0><TBODY><TR vAlign=top><TD align=middle width=35>Q: </TD><TD>Charlie from Virginia asks:
How high is Jeremy Jeffress (rhp) going to go this year? Any chance he gets drafted by the Nationals this year? The last two first-rounders have basically been local kids (Bray & Zimmerman). Thanks.</TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=2>http://www.baseballamerica.com/chat/assets/space_clear.gif</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD align=middle width=35> A: </TD><TD>John Manuel: He's at the front end of a trend of high school pitchers; there will be five-seven HS pitchers who have a chance to go in the first round this year, because it's just not a good year for college position players. I can't speak for Dana Brown, but I'll be surprised if Jeffress lasts to that spot, so Dana may not have a decision to make on Jeffress.
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<TABLE class=small cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=0><TBODY><TR vAlign=top><TD align=middle width=35>Q: </TD><TD>Bob A. from oklahoma asks:
Where Do you see Brett Anderson going on the draft?</TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=2>http://www.baseballamerica.com/chat/assets/space_clear.gif</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD align=middle width=35> A: </TD><TD>John Manuel: First half of the first round, probably will go a bit better than David Huff, who is the most comparable pitcher in the draft, because he's younger.
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<TABLE class=small cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=0><TBODY><TR vAlign=top><TD align=middle width=35>Q: </TD><TD>Erick from NYC asks:
John The talk of this draft is that it is as weak as the 2000 draft. Granted that there were plenty of 1st round busts but there were jewels in the later rounds. Dontrelle, Brandon Webb, Grady Sizemore, Cliff Lee, Bobby Jenks to name a few. With that in mind would it be a good strategy to draft as many high ceiling, high school talent as possible? I mean there are high schoolers who are raw talents now who can be high draft choices when they are draft eligible again in 2 years (if they go to 4 yr. school that is).</TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=2>http://www.baseballamerica.com/chat/assets/space_clear.gif</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD align=middle width=35> A: </TD><TD>John Manuel: Strength of draft . . . every year, scouts tell us it's bad or mediocre every year. Most years, Jim Callis and I will say it's better than they think. This year, we're probably more pessimistic than they are, for whatever that is worth. In such conditions, I would shoot for the moon as a scouting director--take the guy I believe in, regardless of position or college or high school. If I believe in him, take him. If you don't, don't waste your money--sign some DFEs, or invest the money into the organization's Latin American academy. Don't waste money on players you don't believe in, but oh well, he'll sign for slot. Is that an answer?
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
sugmasterflex
05-13-06, 11:28 AM
Bishop Eustace HS (NJ) SS Billy Rowell has put himself in position to potentially become the first high school position player drafted. A 6-5, 200 lb left handed hitting shortstop, Rowell has tremendous bat speed and power potential. His athletic ability is such that scouts don’t automatically project him over to third base despite his size. The thought of a power hitting 6-5 left handed hitting shortstop is too exciting to jump to any conclusions about the future that aren’t obvious yet.
http://www.pgcrosschecker.com/draft/dr_06_05_11_draftnotebook_dr.aspx
Hidekifan57
05-13-06, 12:49 PM
Well, there goes the guy I really liked possibly. No wonder I thought he was good, lol.
sugmasterflex
05-13-06, 01:14 PM
Remember Danny Almonte?
http://www.brewerfan.net/ViewAmateurPlayerProfile.do?playerId=651&draftId=4
sugmasterflex
05-13-06, 01:20 PM
Well, there goes the guy I really liked possibly. No wonder I thought he was good, lol.
The draft is still about a month away, Rowell could fall to us. The number of prep hitters that may go in the first round is growing. Rowell, Marrero, Cody Johnson, Hank Conger, Max Sapp, Jason Place, and Stephen King are all getting first round considerations.
BomberBrian
05-13-06, 01:28 PM
the first round is a huge guessing game.
zero consenus on who goes where and who teams are interested in.
Hidekifan57
05-13-06, 05:54 PM
A Stephen King feature will be on PinstripesPlus tomorrow, by the way.
And you're right, Rowell could definitely fall to us.
AustinTXHorn
05-15-06, 03:14 AM
CalLeaguers.com has some scouting videos on some top prospects...
Brandon Morrow #1 (http://www.calleaguers.com/MorrowBrandon0210.html)
Brandon Morrow #2 (http://www.calleaguers.com/MorrowBrandon0303.html)
Evan Longoria #1 (http://www.calleaguers.com/LongoriaEvan0210.html)
Evan Longoria #2 (http://www.calleaguers.com/LongoriaEvan0211.html)
Greg Reynolds #1 (http://www.calleaguers.com/ReynoldsGreg0218.html)
Greg Reynolds #2 (http://www.calleaguers.com/ReynoldsGreg0303.html)
Kyle McCulloch (http://www.calleaguers.com/McCullochKyle0219.html)
Drew Stubbs (http://www.calleaguers.com/StubbsDrew0218.html)
Tim Lincecum (http://www.calleaguers.com/LincecumTim0326.html)
Mark Melancon (http://www.calleaguers.com/MelanconMark0330.html)
Ian Kennedy (http://www.calleaguers.com/KennedyIan0401.html)
ICEBERG18
05-15-06, 11:48 AM
http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/draft/news/261272.html (http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/draft/news/261272.html)
Steph19
05-15-06, 11:49 AM
http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/draft/news/261272.html (http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/draft/news/261272.html)
I'd draft him.
jerez23
05-15-06, 12:36 PM
Hochevar is going top 15. I see the Rangers taking him at 12. They have a relationship with Boras clients and they need as close as you can MLB ready pitching.
AustinTXHorn
05-15-06, 01:18 PM
Hochevar is going top 15. I see the Rangers taking him at 12. They have a relationship with Boras clients and they need as close as you can MLB ready pitching.
I could deal with Hochevar. We do have a decent relationship with Boras (about as good as you can get, he loves screwing Tom Hicks) and we have money to spend.
ICEBERG18
05-15-06, 11:51 PM
http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/events/draft/y2006/index.jsp
I thought I heard that Danny Almonte is eligible for this draft. Is he any good? Does he have any prospect status at all? I'm just curious about this guy.
I thought I heard that Danny Almonte is eligible for this draft. Is he any good? Does he have any prospect status at all? I'm just curious about this guy.
From a blurb someone posted they said he still has a very good delivery that benefits his fastball and potentially devastating slider. Only throwing in the high 80's though, so he'll have to fill out and get his fastball up into the 90s.
BennyTheJetRodriguez
05-17-06, 01:24 AM
MLB.com has the top 20 going like this
1. Tim Lincecum
2. Andrew Miller
3. Evan Longoria
4. Brandon Morrow
5. Brad Lincoln
6. Clayton Kershaw
7. Greg Reynolds
8. Drew Stubbs
9. Bill Rowell
10. Daniel Bard
11. Luke Hochevar
12. Kyle Drabek
13. Travis Snider
14. Matt Antonelli
15. Jeremy Jeffress
16. Brooks Brown
17. Joba Chamberlain
18. Chris Tillman
19. Chris Marrero
20. Hank Conger
Now I realize this is just MLB.com and they probbaly don't really know what they are talking about(I wouldn't know either way, I don't really follow college ball), but if the top 20 were to shake out like this who would that leave for us?
sugmasterflex
05-17-06, 09:24 AM
MLB.com has the top 20 going like this
1. Tim Lincecum
2. Andrew Miller
3. Evan Longoria
4. Brandon Morrow
5. Brad Lincoln
6. Clayton Kershaw
7. Greg Reynolds
8. Drew Stubbs
9. Bill Rowell
10. Daniel Bard
11. Luke Hochevar
12. Kyle Drabek
13. Travis Snider
14. Matt Antonelli
15. Jeremy Jeffress
16. Brooks Brown
17. Joba Chamberlain
18. Chris Tillman
19. Chris Marrero
20. Hank Conger
Now I realize this is just MLB.com and they probbaly don't really know what they are talking about(I wouldn't know either way, I don't really follow college ball), but if the top 20 were to shake out like this who would that leave for us?
Colton Willems.
From a blurb someone posted they said he still has a very good delivery that benefits his fastball and potentially devastating slider. Only throwing in the high 80's though, so he'll have to fill out and get his fastball up into the 90s.
Would he be a good low round pick?
Would he be a good low round pick?
I'm of the opinion anyone with a high upside is a good low round pick. Don't know about the general baseball consensus on him though.
BennyTheJetRodriguez
05-17-06, 10:35 AM
Colton Willems.Whats his story?
Posada_20
05-17-06, 11:20 AM
What about Betances? Do the Yanks pass on him and hope he's still there when their supplemental pick comes up?
BennyTheJetRodriguez
05-17-06, 11:26 AM
I thought our supplemental pick went to the Braves for Farnsworth.
DaYanks4Life
05-17-06, 11:31 AM
I thought our supplemental pick went to the Braves for Farnsworth.
No, supplemental picks are not forfitted, they get our 2nd rd pick.
Kulish29
05-17-06, 11:36 AM
MLB.com has the top 20 going like this
1. Tim Lincecum
2. Andrew Miller
3. Evan Longoria
4. Brandon Morrow
5. Brad Lincoln
6. Clayton Kershaw
7. Greg Reynolds
8. Drew Stubbs
9. Bill Rowell
10. Daniel Bard
11. Luke Hochevar
12. Kyle Drabek
13. Travis Snider
14. Matt Antonelli
15. Jeremy Jeffress
16. Brooks Brown
17. Joba Chamberlain
18. Chris Tillman
19. Chris Marrero
20. Hank Conger
Now I realize this is just MLB.com and they probbaly don't really know what they are talking about(I wouldn't know either way, I don't really follow college ball), but if the top 20 were to shake out like this who would that leave for us?
If the Royals pick Lincecum over Miller, I'm going to laugh my butt off. That would certainly show how much incompetence that franchise has running through it.
And, has anyone seen Lincecum's delivery? Ugly.
BennyTheJetRodriguez
05-17-06, 11:41 AM
No, supplemental picks are not forfitted, they get our 2nd rd pick.Oh, cool
http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20060517&content_id=1457804&vkey=draft2006&fext=.jsp
bmxstreetrider86
05-17-06, 12:34 PM
No, supplemental picks are not forfitted, they get our 2nd rd pick.
wait, dont we have the phillies sup pick and we gave up ours?
Steph19
05-17-06, 12:39 PM
What about Betances? Do the Yanks pass on him and hope he's still there when their supplemental pick comes up?
Is Betances still considered first round talent? I haven't heard his name anywhere for a while. Last I saw was a Newsday article I posted here two or so weeks ago. His K numbers and ERA were great but they didn't mention is BB rate at all. High school statistics are ridiculously unaccesible, at least for Grand Street HS.
bmxstreetrider86
05-17-06, 12:41 PM
Is Betances still considered first round talent? I haven't heard his name anywhere for a while. Last I saw was a Newsday article I posted here two or so weeks ago. His K numbers and ERA were great but they didn't mention is BB rate at all. High school statistics are ridiculously unaccesible, at least for Grand Street HS.
a lot of places no longer have him as a first rounder- most have him as an early second rounder
he has tremendous upside and i believe he will be there when the yankees pick at 41
geodork
05-17-06, 01:28 PM
wait, dont we have the phillies sup pick and we gave up ours?
The Yankees have the Phillies 1st round pick (#21) and they gave up our 1st round pick (to the Sawx for Damon). In addition to getting the Phillies 1st round pick, they also get a pick in the supplemental round (#41) for losing a type "A" free agent. So the Yanks pick up 2 picks for losing Gordon (and the Sawx get to picks for losing Damon). Teams cannot lose their supplemental picks. Sorry ... I don't have a link handy to explain the rules more clearly.
BennyTheJetRodriguez
05-17-06, 02:17 PM
The Yankees have the Phillies 1st round pick (#21) and they gave up our 1st round pick (to the Sawx for Damon). In addition to getting the Phillies 1st round pick, they also get a pick in the supplemental round (#41) for losing a type "A" free agent. So the Yanks pick up 2 picks for losing Gordon (and the Sawx get to picks for losing Damon). Teams cannot lose their supplemental picks. Sorry ... I don't have a link handy to explain the rules more clearly.So what pick did ATL get for Farnsworth? Second round?
ICEBERG18
05-17-06, 02:29 PM
So what pick did ATL get for Farnsworth? Second round?
Correct.
bmxstreetrider86
05-17-06, 05:52 PM
anyone know anything about travis snider's physical skills other than his "bad body"
Hidekifan57
05-17-06, 06:18 PM
I wish they wouldn't say "bad body" with Snider. Bad body for speed is the right term. He's just a shorter guy that is built like a tank. The kid is solid muscle but is just not built for speed. They talk about him like he's fat.
BomberBrian
05-17-06, 07:12 PM
Just looked at that top 20.
If Brett Anderson is somehow around at 21 that would have to be the pick in my opinion.
DaYanks4Life
05-17-06, 07:18 PM
Just looked at that top 20.
If Brett Anderson is somehow around at 21 that would have to be the pick in my opinion.
WOW, if he's available then heck yeah. If the Yanks play the cards right it could be a very good draft for them.
IrishYankee
05-17-06, 07:25 PM
This is the sort of draft that could make a front office. With so few standouts, we'll see who's scouting and development programs can really pick 'em.
bmxstreetrider86
05-17-06, 07:34 PM
H57, from what you have heard can snider stay in the OF or is he a 1B/DH?
Hidekifan57
05-17-06, 07:58 PM
Honestly, I can't see Snider being a good OF. There are plenty of below average OF's but he'd be much better suited for 1b. He's a very large framed guy.
bmxstreetrider86
05-17-06, 08:10 PM
thanx thats all i wanted to know
Hidekifan57
05-17-06, 08:30 PM
No problem.
By the way, there will be an interview with rising prep pitcher, Sean Black, soon on PinstripesPlus.com. He's come from nowhere to be a strong first round candidate.
Kulish29
05-17-06, 10:41 PM
Just looked at that top 20.
If Brett Anderson is somehow around at 21 that would have to be the pick in my opinion.
I'll do friggin back flips if that happens.
albo4lyfe
05-17-06, 10:59 PM
If the draft went something similar to that then I'd personally take Scherzer.
BennyTheJetRodriguez
05-17-06, 11:42 PM
If the draft went something similar to that then I'd personally take Scherzer.Whats his first name? I'm not too thrilled with the name Scherzer.
AustinTXHorn
05-17-06, 11:55 PM
Whats his first name? I'm not too thrilled with the name Scherzer.
Max.
If he falls all the way to the Yankees, they probably need to take him. Before he had some injury problems earlier in the year (he's back and apparently healthy now), he was a possible #1 overall pick.
BennyTheJetRodriguez
05-17-06, 11:56 PM
Max.
If he falls all the way to the Yankees, they probably need to take him. Before he had some injury problems earlier in the year (he's back and apparently healthy now), he was a possible #1 overall pick.Actually Max goes well with Scherzer. Whats his story(position, tools ect)?
BennyTheJetRodriguez
05-18-06, 12:03 AM
What about Chris Parmelee if the draft shakes out the way MiLB.com thinks it will?
AustinTXHorn
05-18-06, 12:04 AM
Actually Max goes well with Scherzer. Whats his story(position, tools ect)?
Pitcher from University of Missouri. Here's his numbers from the last two years:
2005: 9-4, 1.86 ERA...106.1 IP, 59 H, 41 BB, 131 K (.163 BAA)
2006: 5-1, 2.22 ERA...52.2 IP, 37 H, 19 BB, 58 K (.206 BAA)
6'2, 210 righty. Fastball is around 95-97 with a great slider. Had elbow tendonitis about midway through the season but he seems to be right back on track. Gave up one run in 7 innings in his last start agains Texas Tech.
Here's an article on him: http://mutigers.cstv.com/sports/m-basebl/spec-rel/030706aae.html
BennyTheJetRodriguez
05-18-06, 12:05 AM
Pitcher from University of Missouri. Here's his numbers from the last two years:
2005: 9-4, 1.86 ERA...106.1 IP, 59 H, 41 BB, 131 K (.163 BAA)
2006: 5-1, 2.22 ERA...52.2 IP, 37 H, 19 BB, 58 K (.206 BAA)
6'2, 210 righty. Fastball is around 95-97 with a great slider. Had elbow tendonitis about midway through the season but he seems to be right back on track. Gave up one run in 7 innings in his last start agains Texas Tech.
Here's an article on him: http://mutigers.cstv.com/sports/m-basebl/spec-rel/030706aae.htmlWow, looks really impressive other than the walks in 05. Mhy would he drop so low? Just because of the injuries?
AustinTXHorn
05-18-06, 12:09 AM
Wow, looks really impressive other than the walks in 05. Mhy would he drop so low? Just because of the injuries?
That, and he's a Boras guy. I honestly have no clue where he's going to go now (although most reports seem to have him out of the top 10) and I'm surprised I haven't seen it addressed anywhere.
BennyTheJetRodriguez
05-18-06, 12:12 AM
That, and he's a Boras guy. I honestly have no clue where he's going to go now (although most reports seem to have him out of the top 10) and I'm surprised I haven't seen it addressed anywhere.Maybe we'll see Cox setting up for him some day.
So what did you think of that high school kid, Parmelee?
Posada_20
05-18-06, 08:48 AM
Any chance Rowell will fall to us?
38Special
05-18-06, 09:31 AM
Frankie said its a possibility. I dont know if I agree
BomberBrian
05-18-06, 09:48 AM
his stock has really soared.
i'd be surprised if he was around when we pick.
geodork
05-18-06, 10:49 AM
http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20060517&content_id=1458113&vkey=draft2006&fext=.jsp
Hidekifan57
05-18-06, 01:09 PM
Rowell falling is possible, not probable.
I'd take Parmelee in a heartbeat depending on who else is available.
albo4lyfe
05-18-06, 06:17 PM
Whats his first name? I'm not too thrilled with the name Scherzer.
The name doesn't make the player. Pujols doesn't sound all that mighty but ask ML pitchers about him.
NYYPride4Life
05-18-06, 06:23 PM
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/story/418715p-353652c.html
"Almonte, a pitcher and first baseman whose fastball has been clocked in the low 90s at times, is expected to be drafted by a major league team later in June. However, he may be limited to playing first base at the All-American game because the PSAL championship is scheduled for June 9 and he is the ace of the staff for Monroe, which is undefeated in league play."
BennyTheJetRodriguez
05-18-06, 06:30 PM
The name doesn't make the player. Pujols doesn't sound all that mighty but ask ML pitchers about him.There are a few exceptions, but the name game usually works. Pujols is just spanish and obscure enough to be the name of an elite player. You can bet your bippy if a dude's name is Lawrence Foulklestork he won't be anything regardless of tools and stats. Just look at Todd Van Popple;)
albo4lyfe
05-18-06, 06:45 PM
There are a few exceptions, but the name game usually works. Pujols is just spanish and obscure enough to be the name of an elite player. You can bet your bippy if a dude's name is Lawrence Foulklestork he won't be anything regardless of tools and stats. Just look at Todd Van Popple;)
LOL, I'd rather look at the player than the name.
AustinTXHorn
05-18-06, 06:47 PM
Maybe we'll see Cox setting up for him some day.
So what did you think of that high school kid, Parmelee?
I'll be honest, I don't know too much about the high school guys outside of Anderson and the players in the state of Texas. ;)
sugmasterflex
05-18-06, 08:39 PM
Check out this Rowell HR derby video. Got it off of the Dodger's board on Scout...
http://www.powershowcase.us/action_movies/newjersey/Rowell.mpg
Awesome.
Here are some pics. One of his HR's went for 512 feet. :eek:
http://www.powershowcase.us/hosts/newjersey.htm
Hidekifan57
05-18-06, 09:01 PM
Wow, he looks like Bonds and or David Ortiz a little too the way he stands and how he swings.
BennyTheJetRodriguez
05-18-06, 09:57 PM
I'll be honest, I don't know too much about the high school guys outside of Anderson and the players in the state of Texas. ;)Thats ok, ya know more than me since I've never heard of these guys. Still can't wait till the draft though.
albo4lyfe
05-18-06, 11:35 PM
From the pics his body looks a lot like A-Rod's to me.
BennyTheJetRodriguez
05-19-06, 12:45 AM
Sorry if this has been brought up already, but what about Cogner? He's a high cieling high school kid and an impact bat and could be the best available player when our pick comes up. MLB.com has him going to the twins one pick before us.
More weird news on Danny Almonte
http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/419125p-353913c.html
BomberBrian
05-19-06, 08:00 AM
that is hysterical.
Kulish29
05-19-06, 08:20 AM
Check out this Rowell HR derby video. Got it off of the Dodger's board on Scout...
http://www.powershowcase.us/action_movies/newjersey/Rowell.mpg
Awesome.
Here are some pics. One of his HR's went for 512 feet. :eek:
http://www.powershowcase.us/hosts/newjersey.htm
Well, we deffinetly dont have a shot at him now.
ICEBERG18
05-19-06, 11:18 AM
• Jim Callis predicts all 30 first-round picks in our first mock draft of the year.
http://www.baseballamerica.com/online/draft/features/261296.html (http://www.baseballamerica.com/online/draft/features/261296.html)
For subscribers only, i don't know who he has the Yankees taken.
ICEBERG18
05-19-06, 11:20 AM
Few top position players available this year
http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/draft/features/261299.html
BomberBrian
05-19-06, 11:47 AM
21. YANKEES (from Phillies). Despite the franchise's historic fascination with southpaws, the Yankees' rebounding farm system is light on lefthanders. Anderson would get to the majors quick for a high schooler, but not as quick as a college lefthander, UCLA's David Huff.
Projected Pick: David Huff.
ICEBERG18
05-19-06, 11:52 AM
21. YANKEES (from Phillies). Despite the franchise's historic fascination with southpaws, the Yankees' rebounding farm system is light on lefthanders. Anderson would get to the majors quick for a high schooler, but not as quick as a college lefthander, UCLA's David Huff.
Projected Pick: David Huff.
So they have the Yankess passing on Anderson?
http://www.brewerfan.net/ViewAmateurPlayerProfile.do?playerId=585&draftId=4 (http://www.brewerfan.net/ViewAmateurPlayerProfile.do?playerId=585&draftId=4)
http://uclabruins.cstv.com/sports/m-basebl/mtt/huff_dave00.html
21. YANKEES (from Phillies). Despite the franchise's historic fascination with southpaws, the Yankees' rebounding farm system is light on lefthanders. Anderson would get to the majors quick for a high schooler, but not as quick as a college lefthander, UCLA's David Huff.
Projected Pick: David Huff.
I will be very disappointed if the team takes Huff over Anderson.
DaYanks4Life
05-19-06, 12:00 PM
I will be very disappointed if the team takes Huff over Anderson.
Yuck, me too.
BomberBrian
05-19-06, 12:00 PM
yea they have anderson going 3 picks later to the braves.
i agree completely that huff over anderson is a terrible choice.
though i don't think there is any reason to worry. i'd be surprised if we go with a college player in round 1.
jerez23
05-19-06, 12:09 PM
It's funny. Around late February I asked how Huff could be a sleeper pick too. He is one of those "crafty", "Glavine" type lefties. That's how he'll probably be described too. I personally don't want him either especially with other talent still there too. I would also prefer Anderson or any other high ceiling high school player. Maybe that Jersey kid can scare teams with a high price tag and he drops down to us. :D
jerez23
05-19-06, 12:13 PM
The bad news is that guy is pretty good with his projections. He correctly guessed the Yanks 1st pick last year too in his intial mock draft. :( Start the David Huff welcome wagon.
ICEBERG18
05-19-06, 12:16 PM
<TABLE class=small cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=0><TBODY><TR vAlign=top><TD align=middle width=35>Q: </TD><TD>jason from mansfield ohio asks:
i've heard some about Cody Johnson where do you think he will end up goin?</TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=2>http://www.baseballamerica.com/chat/assets/space_clear.gif</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD align=middle width=35> A: </TD><TD>Alan Matthews: We don't have a good feel for where Johnson is going to be drafted, and that might be true for some major league teams. He has outstanding raw power, but big holes in his swing, especially handling hard stuff above his hands. He has hindered his stock a touch because of his inability to improve defensively. He might be stuck playing first base. He could slip out of the top 10 rounds if clubs don't believe he's signable in the third- to fifth-round range, or he could wind up going as high as the supplemental round. Thus the theme of this year's wide open draft.
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
flymick24
05-19-06, 12:18 PM
anderson definitely has higher upside than huff, imo
Hidekifan57
05-19-06, 12:54 PM
Ugh, Huff is not the right pick IMO. I'd be shocked if thats what actually happens...totally shocked.
I do like Huff but not at 21.
geodork
05-19-06, 01:11 PM
Actually Callis has the Yankees picking Huff over Anderson, Willems, and Tillman.
Yuck yuck yuck fvck.
Hope he's wrong.
Posada_20
05-19-06, 02:22 PM
I agree. No way Huff should go that high. Rowell would be my first choice should he slip, but that seems unlikely, so I would take Willems. Then I'd take Betances with the supplemental pick if he's still on the board.
flymick24
05-19-06, 02:44 PM
Actually Callis has the Yankees picking Huff over Anderson, Willems, and Tillman.
Yuck yuck yuck fvck.
Hope he's wrong.
i really hope that's not the case... anderson is younger, throws harder, and has competed in greater levels of competition.
JeterRodriguezSheff
05-19-06, 02:51 PM
Meh nothing to get too worried about, its just speculation, I am confident in the Yankees drafting ability after the last couple of years and I trust they will make the right decision.
Kulish29
05-19-06, 03:11 PM
21. YANKEES (from Phillies). Despite the franchise's historic fascination with southpaws, the Yankees' rebounding farm system is light on lefthanders. Anderson would get to the majors quick for a high schooler, but not as quick as a college lefthander, UCLA's David Huff.
Projected Pick: David Huff.
:lol:
What a moronic pick that would be. Good thing the Yankees dont think like BA.
38Special
05-19-06, 03:42 PM
Huff's college numbers arent even that good
sugmasterflex
05-19-06, 07:03 PM
No way are we passing over Anderson for Huff.
Where did Callis have Rowell going?
BomberBrian
05-19-06, 07:25 PM
No way are we passing over Anderson for Huff.
Where did Callis have Rowell going?
he mentions rowell as a possibility to the orioles at 9 but ultimately has him going 13 to the cubs.
Steph19
05-19-06, 10:47 PM
Hehe. That doesn't bother me. I would be absolutely shocked if the Yankees went for a "proven" college starter over the higher upside HS pitcher.
Hidekifan57
05-19-06, 11:03 PM
It would be acceptable if Latos, Betances or someone like that can be had at 41, which I'm positive one of those two will be.
BomberBrian
05-19-06, 11:06 PM
i really can't think of a college guy that i think will be around at 21 that i would want.
bmxstreetrider86
05-19-06, 11:26 PM
with all of the success with our recent drafts, i would be suprised to see the yankees take a college player before the 4th round unless its a no brainer IMO
i think it is possible that we get 2 of anderson,latos, betances, willems, tillman.
there are some other picks i would like to explore, especially brandon belt and josh thrailkill in the third or fourth round
Steph19
05-19-06, 11:29 PM
Jared Hughes was pretty highly thought of early. Where does he project to go now?
...And yes, I am thinking about the possibility of a Hughes/Hughes 1/2 combo.
bmxstreetrider86
05-19-06, 11:48 PM
i think hughes is more of a middle to back end guy not a #2
i like anderson at 21 cause he is probably going to move the fastest out of the prep arms
i love willems upside and think he would be a great pick as well
if it came down to those 2 guys, i have no idea where i would go- but i would lean towards anderson and take a high ceiling guy like betances or latos at 41 because i love those two guys
AustinTXHorn
05-20-06, 01:55 AM
Jared Hughes was pretty highly thought of early. Where does he project to go now?
...And yes, I am thinking about the possibility of a Hughes/Hughes 1/2 combo.
Could definitely drop to 21. He has been incredibly inconsistent this year.
But when he is on, IMO, he has some of the best stuff in the entire draft.
Hidekifan57
05-20-06, 10:25 AM
One thing I've bee told by high ranking scouts is that there are NO high school pitchers that compare to what Hughes was in 2004. So, that is quite a compliment for our younbg star, but also a negative for this class. Most I've spoken to believe Hughes would probably have been a top 10 guy in this class.
And, few believe that this group of high school pitchers is going to produce a top of the rotation pitcher, which I find rather disappointing.
That's why I think the Yankees should take a position player with their first pick, or if they want to, a college pitcher, then take one of these high school pitchers at 41. One or more of them will be available.
I'd like to take Parmelee at 21, personally.
Fabien Brandy
05-20-06, 11:20 AM
What if Kyle Drabek drops to the Yankees' pick? There's mention of an off-the-field behavior incident but otherwise he was a top, top guy.
ICEBERG18
05-20-06, 11:55 AM
I'd like to take Parmelee at 21, personally.
I wouldn't mind that pick at all.
ICEBERG18
05-20-06, 11:55 AM
<TT>I was wondering what happened to New York high school righthander Dellin Betances. Before the season started, he was projected as a first-round pick. Now I don't hear anything about him. Also, do you see the Dodgers going after high school players with their first three picks?
Ray Villa
Los Angeles</TT>The 6-foot-9 Betances, who pitches at Grand Street High in New York City, isn't generating first-round buzz but likely will go in the second to fourth round. Here's Aaron Fitt's scouting report from our Draft Preview:
The towering Betances commands attention on the mound and has flashed big stuff to match his size. He had scouts buzzing when he showed low- to mid-90s velocity in last year's Aflac game, when he needed just nine pitches to retire the heart of the West's lineup
.
But Betances struggled to regain that velocity in the cold weather early this spring, pitching in the high 80s and topping out at 91. He's gotten stronger as the season has gone along, pitching back in the 92-93 mph range and touching 94 while occasionally flashing a plus 12-to-6 curveball with sharp downer action. A former basketball player, Betances has good feet and is athletic, but his windup has a lot of moving parts—he appears to duck his head in order to get his arm over the top—and he struggles to repeat his delivery from a straight over-the-top arm slot.
Betances has thrown plenty of innings between two different leagues this spring, thanks to a work schedule overseen by summer coach Mel Zitter, who has helped create plenty of hype about Betances along with his agents, the Hendricks brothers. Despite their best efforts, he's too raw and risky for the first round, but whoever takes him could end up with a pitcher scouts compare to Daniel Cabrera
http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/askba/261337.html (http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/askba/261337.html)
ICEBERG18
05-21-06, 11:12 AM
http://story.scout.com/a.z?s=303&p=2&c=532814&ssf=1&RequestedURL=http%3a%2f%2fyankees.scout.com%2f2%2f532814.html
Kulish29
05-21-06, 01:11 PM
Interesting blurb from the article about Tony Pena's son:
http://www.nj.com/yankees/ledger/index.ssf?/base/sports-0/1148106355104490.xml&coll=1
The Yankees have also scouted Preston Mattingly, the 18-year-old son of Yankees hitting coach Don Mattingly. A speedy shortstop in Evansville, Ind., the younger Mattingly could go in the top 10 rounds of the draft and has accepted a scholarship offer from the University of Tennessee.
ICEBERG18
05-21-06, 06:29 PM
http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20060518&content_id=1460621&vkey=draft2006&fext=.jsp
http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20060519&content_id=1461298&vkey=draft2006&fext=.jsp
27IsNext
05-21-06, 06:51 PM
I've watched LeBlanc pitch for three years here at Alabama. It'd be great to see him get drafted and play in the majors one day. As the article said, he's probably a number four or five man in the rotation, but he can flat out pitch.
One thing the article may be innaccurate about is how fast he projects to move through the system. He suffered from a tired arm about a week and a half ago, so it might take some time to adjust to long seasons.
Kulish29
05-21-06, 11:57 PM
I like Kiker. Dont know if I'd take him in the 1st but I'd deff take him in the supp round.
albo4lyfe
05-22-06, 04:19 PM
I like Kiker. Dont know if I'd take him in the 1st but I'd deff take him in the supp round.
I like him, too. Hopefully the "character issues" will let him drop to 41. A power lefty = very valuable.
ICEBERG18
05-22-06, 04:57 PM
http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/draft/features/261330.html
http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/draft/features/261350.html
albo4lyfe
05-22-06, 05:38 PM
http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/draft/features/261330.html
http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/draft/features/261350.html
Damn, ICE! You sure know how to stay on top of things, don't you? Anyways, thanks for pointing them out. Hadn't checked out BA today.
homer2931
05-22-06, 05:39 PM
http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/draft/features/261330.html
http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/draft/features/261350.html
2. Jeff Samardzija, Notre Dame
Is there any chance that he leaves to play baseball?
ICEBERG18
05-22-06, 05:39 PM
Damn, ICE! You sure know how to stay on top of things, don't you? Anyways, thanks for pointing them out. Hadn't checked out BA today.
Don't give me any credit someone would have posted it sooner or later.
albo4lyfe
05-22-06, 05:46 PM
Don't give me any credit someone would have posted it sooner or later.
I know but you're always one of the 1st posing links on new stories from PP or BA. So props.
ICEBERG18
05-22-06, 05:47 PM
I know but you're always one of the 1st posing links on new stories from PP or BA. So props.
Thanks.
albo4lyfe
05-22-06, 05:48 PM
Is there any chance that he leaves to play baseball?
Doubt it. Since he's a likely 1st rounder in the NFL draft next year.
Yanks21
05-22-06, 06:02 PM
I'm currently on the Brett Anderson at 21 bandwagon. Assuming Rowell is off the board...
Yanks21
05-22-06, 06:05 PM
Is there any chance that he leaves to play baseball?
He might sign for a seven figure bonus, ala Drew Henson. However, he's definitely playing football in the fall...
albo4lyfe
05-22-06, 06:09 PM
He might sign for a seven figure bonus, ala Drew Henson. However, he's definitely playing football in the fall...
Would a team give Samardzija a 7 figure bonus? I wouldn't give him that.
bmxstreetrider86
05-22-06, 06:09 PM
he will probably get more money for being a first round pick in football
doubt he signs unless he gets like 4+ mil
albo4lyfe
05-22-06, 06:11 PM
he will probably get more money for being a first round pick in football
doubt he signs unless he gets like 4+ mil
4+? Damn, a team must REALLY want him to give him 4+.
bmxstreetrider86
05-22-06, 06:13 PM
i forgot to say no team would, which they would be crazy to give him
he looks like a WR to me
ICEBERG18
05-23-06, 03:46 PM
http://www.baseballamerica.com/online/draft/features/261380.html
BomberBrian
05-23-06, 05:24 PM
I'm starting a law firm with picks 21 & 41.
The name?
Anderson & Anderson.
The Brett & Lars bandwagon has begun.
ICEBERG18
05-24-06, 09:43 AM
Colton Willems.
I really like him too. Im not locked into anyone specific right now, but i like a lot of players. I hope the Yankees hit Hr's at #21 & #41.
DaYanks4Life
05-24-06, 09:58 AM
I really like him too. Im not locked into anyone specific right now, but i like a lot of players. I hope the Yankees hit Hr's at #21 & #41.
Its very important that they do and I hope they see it like that too.
Posada_20
05-24-06, 10:48 AM
It is very important considering that the Red Sox have multiple picks over the first 2 rounds again, and that we don't have a 2nd round pick.
Hidekifan57
05-24-06, 12:58 PM
I really like him too. Im not locked into anyone specific right now, but i like a lot of players. I hope the Yankees hit Hr's at #21 & #41.
Remember, in the first round, there are very few "home run" players this year. Both Anderson and Willems do not profile as frontline starters. Neither does Huff or anyone else after Kershaw, Jeffress, and the other guys near the top.
The home runs are going to have to be hit with the picks after the first round on ceiling guys that are still raw. ie. Betances, Latos, etc.
sugmasterflex
05-24-06, 06:36 PM
http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article_perspectives.jsp?ymd=20060523&content_id=1467640&vkey=perspectives&fext=.jsp
sugmasterflex
05-24-06, 06:40 PM
Remember, in the first round, there are very few "home run" players this year. Both Anderson and Willems do not profile as frontline starters. Neither does Huff or anyone else after Kershaw, Jeffress, and the other guys near the top.
The home runs are going to have to be hit with the picks after the first round on ceiling guys that are still raw. ie. Betances, Latos, etc.
How come Willems doesn't profile as front of the rotation? He has great control, great fastball, and a plus (though inconsistent) curve. Don't forget even Hughes learned the curve and change after he got drafted. Willems is also very projectable.
http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article_perspectives.jsp?ymd=20060523&content_id=1467640&vkey=perspectives&fext=.jsp
I take Max Scherzer. He is underrated because of the health issue.
bmxstreetrider86
05-24-06, 06:59 PM
i agree with sug, willems certainly seems like he can be a #1 or #2
i like anderson and think he could be a good #2 or #3, and a relatively safe pick in regards to reaching that ceiling
to me, he is the highschool version of the jeremy sowers pick by the indians a couple of years ago, a solid innings eater to reach the majors fast
Hidekifan57
05-24-06, 07:04 PM
How come Willems doesn't profile as front of the rotation? He has great control, great fastball, and a plus (though inconsistent) curve. Don't forget even Hughes learned the curve and change after he got drafted. Willems is also very projectable.
Willems is not in Hughes league compared to when he was in HS. Willems has been mechanically inconsistent, his command has been somewhat spotty . In any other year, he's a great projection pick for the 2nd round, but not a first rounder. I haven't had one scout tell he's going to be a frontline guy and I've asked them all. I really don't want the Yankees to reach just to get the best HS pitcher available if he's not a typical 1st round talent.
And, believe me, there's no bigger advocate for high school picks than me. Willems, I would LOVE to have him in the system, but not what I want in the first round if his upside is A. Going to get to the bigs quick or B. Have tremendous upside. That's why the Yankees may have to go safe pick in the first round and rack up upside guys in the following rounds like I mentioned earlier, Betances, Latos, etc. There are tons of guys out there like that. If Willems is available at 41, I'd gladly take him and I don't totally agree that he has no chance to be frontline. But, for a first round HS pitcher, I don't want that many questions for a first rounder.
38Special
05-24-06, 07:08 PM
how big of a chance is there of latos of betances lasting long though
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