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sugmasterflex
02-02-06, 01:57 PM
I want Chris Marrero at #21, and Brett Anderson at #40.....
Me want Marrero/Johnson at 21 and Willems at 40. Also Brandon Belt in the 3rd and a chance on Riley Cooper in the top 10 rounds.
ICEBERG18
02-02-06, 02:15 PM
The Top 10 mock draft is
1. Andrew Miller, lhp, U. of North Carolina
Six-foot-7 lefty was draft’s highest unsigned pick from 2003, primed to become highest pick this year.
2. Drew Stubbs, of, U. of Texas
Best athlete in the draft has obvious physical tools, but must learn to curb high strikeout totals.
3. Max Scherzer, rhp, U. of Missouri
Devil Rays own this pick and Scherzer would be made to order for a team in need of a power college arm.
4. Jordan Walden, rhp, Mansfield (Texas) HS
When Walden was clocked at 99 mph last summer, he moved to the head of the ’06 high school class.
5. Daniel Bard, rhp, U. of North Carolina
Reasserted himself last summer by leading Cape Cod in strikeouts, after inconsistent sophomore year.
6. Chris Marrero, 3b, Monsignor Pace HS, Miami
Best high school position prospect can swing bat for average and power, and is a solid defender.
7. Ian Kennedy, rhp, U. of Southern California
The Dodgers need some good local PR and drafting a proven hometown talent might be a prudent move.
8. Brett Anderson, lhp, Stillwater (Okla.) HS
The draft’s most polished prep arm has been schooled by his dad, Oklahoma State coach Frank Anderson.
9. Kyle Drabek, rhp, The Woodlands (Texas) HS
The son of ex-big leaguer Doug Drabek has a 96 mph fastball and his father’s trademark hammer curve.
10. Evan Longoria, 3b/ss, Long Beach State U.
A late bloomer, he came of age last summer in Cape Cod League, leading circuit in home runs and RBIs.
If you think we're getting 2 of the top 3 HS guys with 21 and 40 you gotta get me what you're smoking :lol:
Snoop Dogg & Nate Newton were over my house last night. ;)
ICEBERG18
02-02-06, 02:29 PM
I want Cody Johnson. He's the best power bat of the draft and at the same time can play the outfield. Brewerfan says his package is just like Dunn's was at the same age but with better defensive abilities
Im just not a big Cody Johnson guy. :dunno:
IrishYankee
02-02-06, 03:43 PM
Sign me up on Cody Johnson, but when he's taken earlier in the first round, I'll be quite happy with Betances. Wallach is underwhelming, and I think Langley has a good chance of falling to the third round at least.
38 is bang on, High impact positional players and High ceiling HS pitching. Build from the ground up by adding those with the best chance to be stars.
38Special
02-02-06, 04:09 PM
Im just not a big Cody Johnson guy. :dunno:
Any reason why?
I want Betances/Jeffress at 21 and they went at 19 and 20. Damn.
Hopefully one of them gets to us.
DaYanks4Life
02-02-06, 04:46 PM
Wallach is underwhelming
What info do you have on him?
38Special
02-02-06, 05:15 PM
My case for Cody Johnson:
http://www.perfectgame.org/images/playerimages/05nata100.jpg
http://www.baseballamerica.com/online/2006draft/060127hsoverview.html
Best Raw Power: While pure hitters are in short supply, the high school class is loaded with position players with awe-inspiring raw power. 1B/OF Cody Johnson (9) made a mockery out of good pitching last summer on the showcase circuit. His easy swing generates natural loft, and he can drive the ball out to all fields.
brewerfan.net
Johnson was named to the Aflac All-American Classic during the summer of 2005, and received the Jackie Robinson award as the best player in the nation. He has a very tall, strong frame with plenty of room to add more strength, and can already hit the ball a country mile. No player available for the 2006 draft has as much power potential as Johnson, who absolutely crushes anything he can make consistent hard contact with. He also is a very good runner, and has a strong arm that should make him a prototypical right-fielder. He throws in the 88-90 mph range as a pitcher, although his future is clearly as a hitter. He will have to work to elevate his arm action as an outfielder, as his arm tends to drop right now in which throws sail off-line. He has a disciplined eye at the plate that should allow him to draw his fair share of walks, even if his stature and healthy swing will also lead to his fair share of strikeouts. His overall package of tools is very similar to Adam Dunn's, although Johnson profiles as a better outfielder at a similar stage of their development. Another plus when evaluating Johnson is the fact that he won't turn 18 until next August. He has played against superior competition throughout high school, leading the renowned East Cobb Astros.
PG says:
PG REPORT: Cody Johnson is a 2006 outfielder/first baseman from Panama City, FL with a MLB type body at 6-4, 195 lbs. good arm, shows range, excellent bat speed, huge power, easy swing, lofted plane, easy power, ball explodes off his bat, hits for average and power, one of the very top hitters in the country, outstanding projection, 6.69 in the 60, 90 mph off the hill, good student
http://www.perfectgame.org/VIDEOS/05nata/CodyJohnson.rm
+
http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/2006draft/060127johnson.html
ICEBERG18
02-02-06, 05:17 PM
Any reason why?
I don't like his swing at all, but that's just me. Most people love him, but i wouldn't take him at #21.
38Special
02-02-06, 05:40 PM
I don't like his swing at all, but that's just me. Most people love him, but i wouldn't take him at #21.
You saw the aflac classic last summer?
geodork
02-02-06, 05:42 PM
Thats good news, any other Yankees on that list?
Nope, he was the only one. But again it is really early and ... blahblahblah (standard disclaimer)
IrishYankee
02-02-06, 05:55 PM
DaYanks, I screwed the pooch on that. I somehow got into my head that Wallach was in the 2006 draft, had been a catcher all his career, and several other things. I have an aversion to catchers that is soully down to Parrish-itis. They make me skittish and I'm blaming this for my complete ignorance of who we were actually talking about.
Truth be told, I think getting him as a D&F was the best scenario possible. Re-evaluate close to the draft.
Iknowcool
02-02-06, 05:57 PM
Cody Johnson=John Porterson
DaYanks4Life
02-02-06, 06:09 PM
DaYanks, I screwed the pooch on that. I somehow got into my head that Wallach was in the 2006 draft, had been a catcher all his career, and several other things. I have an aversion to catchers that is soully down to Parrish-itis. They make me skittish and I'm blaming this for my complete ignorance of who we were actually talking about.
:lol: It's understandable, I was wondering why that dog was running around bleeding like that, LOL. That's the beauty of D&F's, you get that extended free look at a player.
38Special
02-02-06, 06:27 PM
Cody Johnson=John Porterson
Yeah obviously
gopats998
02-02-06, 10:03 PM
I'm leaning towards parmelee at 21 and kiker at 40. That would be really nice. Parmelee could be the best pure hitter in the class by the time the draft rolls around.Parmeleehttp://myspace-020.vo.llnwd.net/00302/02/04/302704020_m.jpg (http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=4625650&imageID=302704020&Mytoken=F1DF6438-134A-EF4E-AB8CAAA3AA2ADD131381741).http://myspace-004.vo.llnwd.net/00270/40/09/270649004_l.jpgKiker
There is our future!
DaYanks4Life
02-02-06, 11:36 PM
http://myspace-004.vo.llnwd.net/00270/40/09/270649004_l.jpgKiker
There is our future!
Scary thought but as long as he can throw the hell out of the ball, sign him up. :giveup:
Posada_20
02-03-06, 08:05 AM
Would Derrick Robinson last until the 4th round?
Posada_20
02-03-06, 08:10 AM
Suks that the Red Sox have 5 picks in the first 2 rounds.
38Special
02-03-06, 08:25 AM
And we have 3 in the first 2 rounds. Whooo weee
Posada_20
02-03-06, 08:55 AM
No we only have 2. Our first pick, which we moved up 7 slots with the Phillies signing of Tom Gordon, and the sandwich pick at 40. Lost our 1st rounder to Atlanta for Farnsworth and our 2nd rounder to Boston for Damon.
jerez23
02-03-06, 12:09 PM
Cody Johnson=John Porterson
I think right now Cody is a more polished hitter than Poterson was back then. Cody is getting much more hype than Poterson ever did. BA had Poterson going anywhere between the 2nd-5th rounds in 2004. Which why I was surprised the Yanks jumped on him when they did. I think they could have gotten him later in the draft. Cody is a consensus 1st round talent. Yanks would be lucky if he is there at #21. Just for fun I went back and looked who was picked after Poterson. #38 Gio Gonzalez, #39 Jay Rainville, #40 Huston Street, #65 Dustin Pedroia. Hindsight is 20/20!
sugmasterflex
02-03-06, 04:47 PM
The one worry w/ Johnson is the K's...
Yankees1962
02-03-06, 05:06 PM
Suks that the Red Sox have 5 picks in the first 2 rounds.
However, the Red Sox are still far behind the Yankees when it comes to developing players from Latin America.
ICEBERG18
02-06-06, 11:28 AM
If you think we're getting 2 of the top 3 HS guys with 21 and 40 you gotta get me what you're smoking :lol:
Fine, if i can't get that, than i want Brett Anderson at #21 & Chris Parmelee at #40.
38Special
02-06-06, 11:52 AM
Again, Anderson looks like a consensus top 10 pick, and Parm a Top 25-30 pick. Unless you want Parm with 21 (and i don't), i doubt that happens either. However, bad years out of either during this spring would likely lead to them dropping
ICEBERG18
02-06-06, 11:55 AM
Again, Anderson looks like a consensus top 10 pick, and Parm a Top 25-30 pick. Unless you want Parm with 21 (and i don't), i doubt that happens either. However, bad years out of either during this spring would likely lead to them dropping
I guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens.
What do you guys think of my old classmate RhP Derrick Lutz?
He really tore up the Cape Cod League last summer and made the 2006 Baseball Analysts All-American squad.
PinStripesAnonymous
02-06-06, 02:14 PM
No we only have 2. Our first pick, which we moved up 7 slots with the Phillies signing of Tom Gordon, and the sandwich pick at 40. Lost our 1st rounder to Atlanta for Farnsworth and our 2nd rounder to Boston for Damon.
Actually, we lost our 1st rounder to Boston (they get the #28 pick instead of us; they actually pick #27 and #28, weird to see them back to back like that). Atlanta gets the 2nd round pick (becasue Damon was rated higher than Farnsworth).
Iknowcool
02-12-06, 04:40 PM
How do you go about declaring for the draft? I'm a HS senior, I'm not great but I made district all-star team. Why not give it a shot?
BennyTheJetRodriguez
02-14-06, 10:22 PM
How do you go about declaring for the draft? I'm a HS senior, I'm not great but I made district all-star team. Why not give it a shot?
If i'm not mistaken your already eligible. How good you are will determine weather you are looked at and drafted.
Kulish29
02-15-06, 03:27 PM
I've been reading about Jared Hughes and I like what I read. Good college pitcher.
sugmasterflex
02-16-06, 01:59 PM
How do you go about declaring for the draft? I'm a HS senior, I'm not great but I made district all-star team. Why not give it a shot?
You may want to ask the same question at the perfectgame.org message board.
geodork
02-16-06, 04:16 PM
So ... it is clear that the Yankees need a catching prospect in the system, and Brian Jeroloman (U. of Florida) might be a good fit. Lefty-hitting, good-defense catcher who might be there at 40 (currently ranked #21 on college list). I know I will be keeping my eye on his stats. However, catchers can tend to be over-drafted so he might be gone at 40, but would be a reach with the 21 pick. Whaddaya think?
DaYanks4Life
02-16-06, 04:48 PM
So ... it is clear that the Yankees need a catching prospect in the system, and Brian Jeroloman (U. of Florida) might be a good fit. Lefty-hitting, good-defense catcher who might be there at 40 (currently ranked #21 on college list). I know I will be keeping my eye on his stats. However, catchers can tend to be over-drafted so he might be gone at 40, but would be a reach with the 21 pick. Whaddaya think?
Yep, Dave Parrish is still too fresh on the mind. Always best talent available.
BomberBrian
02-16-06, 05:41 PM
I like Jeroloman a lot and i think your assessment is correct.
I'd take him at 40.
I don't think the Yankees would though.
sugmasterflex
02-17-06, 12:21 AM
An early projection...http://athletics.scout.com/2/497314.html
An early projection...http://athletics.scout.com/2/497314.html
That was interesting but I stopped reading after they wrote
The Yankee farm system is thin just about everywhere,
That was interesting but I stopped reading after they wroteThat was the last sentence, so you didn't miss much ;)
38Special
02-17-06, 05:57 AM
An early projection...http://athletics.scout.com/2/497314.html
hehe. Yeah that's a great projection for the Yankees. That's like drafting Kyle Anson in the first round
Posada_20
02-17-06, 08:20 AM
If Bentances and Cody Johnson are both gone, I can't see the Yanks passing up Hughes.
Posada_20
02-17-06, 08:45 AM
good article on Pinstripes Plus on catching prospect Hank Conger. Its a free preview. Check it out.
Hidekifan57
02-17-06, 09:47 AM
Don't get me started on that draft projection, lol.
Conger is a really, really down to earth type of kid. I'm not sure where he fits in the first couple rounds but he's interesting.
If Bentances and Cody Johnson are both gone, I can't see the Yanks passing up Hughes.Hughes is already in the system. He'll be at AA at some point next year.
:p
Kulish29
02-17-06, 10:27 AM
An early projection...http://athletics.scout.com/2/497314.html
:lol: OMG talk about a reach. What an awful pick. Especially with the guys that get picked after the Yankees.
IrishYankee
02-17-06, 10:36 AM
I don't want to see a catcher in the first round. On either pick. I just can't see the point in reaching, and it would be a reach with the talent thats available across the board.
And that projection plain sucks. I want Betances!!!!!
Posada_20
02-17-06, 10:38 AM
Hughes is already in the system. He'll be at AA at some point next year.
:p
I'm talking about Long Beach State rhp Jared Hughes. Not Phil Hughes.
I'm talking about Long Beach State rhp Jared Hughes. Not Phil Hughes.Umm. Yes, I know. I was kidding. That's why the ":p"
An early projection...http://athletics.scout.com/2/497314.html
If it really fell like that, I'd want Jeffress.
27IsNext
02-17-06, 11:07 AM
I certainly wouldn't be opposed to taking a catcher in the first round. We're going to need someone to be ready in two years. After that, we can just get some first-round talent with signability issues. Ambort seems to have a high ceiling.
38Special
02-17-06, 11:37 AM
I'd never heard of Ambort before that article.
BomberBrian
02-17-06, 12:15 PM
Dallas Buck. Dallas Buck. Dallas Buck. Dallas Buck. Dallas Buck. Dallas Buck. Dallas Buck.
yeah i'd really like dallas buck as well.
Kulish29
02-17-06, 02:47 PM
Here's some info on Ambort, just incase anyone is interested:
http://www.brewerfan.net/ViewAmateurPlayerProfile.do?playerId=571&draftId=4
Ambort is a slugging, switch-hitting catcher that hit 18 home runs as a sophomore. Overall he hit .336, and showed good patience wtih a .414 on-base percentage. He didn't hit as well on the Cape, with a .255 average, but it certainly isn't uncommon for a hitter to struggle on the pitching oriented Cape Cod League. He is fairly athletic, and shows good skills behind the plate, and an average but accurate throwing arm. Like other catchers profile such as Chad Tracy and Jordan Newton, Ambort's bat will carry him if he sticks behind the plate.
yank4life2005
02-20-06, 07:28 AM
Seems like we are loaded with high ceiling kids with good tools as far as outfielders are concerned. I would love to stockpile on pitching because you can never have too much.
I think the Yankees will select the best player available to them at #21 whether its an arm or a bat.
I love everything that I have read about Betances but it is unlikely he will be available when we select. I remember last year everyone thought Craig Hansen would be a top 10 pick and the Mets would be all over him but he fell mainly because of Scott Boras.
Anyone know who Betances' agent is?
ICEBERG18
02-21-06, 09:29 AM
-Mansfield pitcher's prospects skyrocketing after 99 mph toss-
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/highschools/schoolday/stories/021606dnspowestcover.1716cdb7.html
DaYanks4Life
02-21-06, 11:40 AM
-Mansfield pitcher's prospects skyrocketing after 99 mph toss-
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/highschools/schoolday/stories/021606dnspowestcover.1716cdb7.html
I would be surprised if he gets past the 5th overall pick.
Posada_20
02-22-06, 10:31 AM
Wonder if the Yanks would try to work out a pre-draft deal with Riley Cooper, and make him their first pick. Then take Betances if he's still there at 40, or Jared Hughes if Betances is gone. 3rd Round, speedy OF Derrick Robinson, then another pitcher in 4th round.
sugmasterflex
02-22-06, 10:49 AM
Wonder if the Yanks would try to work out a pre-draft deal with Riley Cooper, and make him their first pick. Then take Betances if he's still there at 40, or Jared Hughes if Betances is gone. 3rd Round, speedy OF Derrick Robinson, then another pitcher in 4th round.
At this stage, there is no way Betances lasts until 40. We're lucky if he's there at #21.
Cooper is awesome, but I don't know if we would be able to work out a pre-draft deal for the first round. Even though Cooper has all-world talent, he's still a bit raw on the baseball side. He's also strongly committed to Florida.
I hope Colten Willems is there at 21 or 40, preferably at 40 and another impact talent at 21.
DaYanks4Life
02-22-06, 10:54 AM
Wonder if the Yanks would try to work out a pre-draft deal with Riley Cooper, and make him their first pick. Then take Betances if he's still there at 40, or Jared Hughes if Betances is gone. 3rd Round, speedy OF Derrick Robinson, then another pitcher in 4th round.
The Yanks pick 41 now with the signing of our old pal Jeff Weaver and I would be very shocked if Betances makes it to the 41st pick.
Matsui55
02-22-06, 09:27 PM
BA has its first projected list for the 1st round out:
http://www.baseballamerica.com/online/2006draft/060202firstround.html
What REALLY burns me about this list is that 2 former Yanks draft picks are in the top 20- Bard is top 10, and McCulloch is at #17- I think the Yanks drafted him twice, and couldn't get him to sign! Now he's a likely mid-first rounder...
BomberBrian
02-22-06, 09:34 PM
McCullouch was never drafted by the Yankees.
He was taken in the 2003 draft by the Mets.
Hidekifan57
02-22-06, 10:09 PM
I have to say I was very excited to see BA's projection, but all it is is a combination of the top college prospects list and the high school prospects list. Its basically ranking the top draft prospects.
By the way, in the coming weeks, I'm going to release some big draft news. So, be prepared for some interesting articles.
jareddudleyfanclub
02-22-06, 10:19 PM
This is just a general statement about drafting philosophy:
Whatever way the yankees decide to draft, whether it be a high schooler or a college player, I think they should take pitchers with there first few picks. I have always thought that the yankees best plan of action, with there unlimited financial resources, should use free agency for their line up and use their farm system for developing their pitching. If the best player available on the board plays in the field than take him but if it comes down to it, I think they should always opt for pitchers. How many free agent hitters have seriously dissapointed in recent years? I guess you could kind of say Giambi but besides that every guy we have signed does well in New York. (A-rod, Matsui, Sheffield...)
IrishYankee
02-23-06, 04:38 AM
There is nothing wrong with your philosophy, but if you look at the Yankee system right now, they're pretty loaded with pitching talent at the lower levels. This means piggybacking for starters and even remaining in the Instructs for some.
Drafting high school pitcher will add to this logjam as, if they are successful in their first year, they will catch players above them whose development has slowed (injury, new level of competition, pitching specifics etc.). Now what do you do? It depends obviously on whether the guys who matter believe in the talent of the individual pitcher.
Drafting College pitchers early is an alternative as they would be more likely to skip some of this logjam, but most would agree that the top ceiling talent where we draft is at the high school level.
Because of this, its hard to concentrate on pitchers over positional players, and a balanced approach is probably best. Even still we'll see these problems arise, but its a good thing and speaks to the depth of the system.
Posada_20
02-23-06, 08:17 AM
BA has its first projected list for the 1st round out:
http://www.baseballamerica.com/online/2006draft/060202firstround.html
What REALLY burns me about this list is that 2 former Yanks draft picks are in the top 20- Bard is top 10, and McCulloch is at #17- I think the Yanks drafted him twice, and couldn't get him to sign! Now he's a likely mid-first rounder...
Who do they have the Yankees taking in the first round?
jareddudleyfanclub
02-23-06, 09:26 AM
There is nothing wrong with your philosophy, but if you look at the Yankee system right now, they're pretty loaded with pitching talent at the lower levels. This means piggybacking for starters and even remaining in the Instructs for some.
Drafting high school pitcher will add to this logjam as, if they are successful in their first year, they will catch players above them whose development has slowed (injury, new level of competition, pitching specifics etc.). Now what do you do? It depends obviously on whether the guys who matter believe in the talent of the individual pitcher.
Drafting College pitchers early is an alternative as they would be more likely to skip some of this logjam, but most would agree that the top ceiling talent where we draft is at the high school level.
Because of this, its hard to concentrate on pitchers over positional players, and a balanced approach is probably best. Even still we'll see these problems arise, but its a good thing and speaks to the depth of the system.
Yeah I see what you mean but why not use the log jam of pitchers as trade bait to get the hitters you need to keep the line up solid. If the Yankees have good talent evaluators, they should have an advantage at picking out which one of their own guys have star potential and can handle New York. Then they can trade the guys they don't think will be big stars but are perceived by other organizations as big prospects. Anyway, I know it is a vague and maybe even unrealistic philosophy but it looks possible for someone who does not know baseball that well
38Special
02-23-06, 12:11 PM
I think what we need most is more power arms both in the infield and on the mound. Especially ones who could be converted to catcher
Kulish29
02-23-06, 03:25 PM
BA has its first projected list for the 1st round out:
http://www.baseballamerica.com/online/2006draft/060202firstround.html
What REALLY burns me about this list is that 2 former Yanks draft picks are in the top 20- Bard is top 10, and McCulloch is at #17- I think the Yanks drafted him twice, and couldn't get him to sign! Now he's a likely mid-first rounder...
Who do they have the Yankees taking?
38Special
02-23-06, 03:31 PM
Cody Johnson. We already discussed that list a few weeks ago when it originally came out though. I'd love it if we could get Cody
Anyone want to give me the lowdown on Cody Johnson?
ICEBERG18
02-23-06, 05:30 PM
I'd love it if we could get Cody
I would take 6 or 7 H. S. players over Cody. I know most of those kids will be gone off the board by #21, but all of them won't be.
-MY ORDER-
Chris Marrero
Brett Anderson
Chris Parmelee
Colton Willems
Dellin Betances
Chris Tillman
Hopefully one of these guy fall to #21
Hidekifan57
02-23-06, 06:17 PM
I'd take Cody Johnson over Parmelee, Willems and Tillman for sure.
Hidekifan57
02-23-06, 06:19 PM
By the way, I've been speaking to a bunch of team scouting directors lately for upcoming pre-draft articles, and they are saying this is one of the weakest groups of high school position players they've seen. Parmelee still has not totally convinced these guys while Johnson and Marrero are about the only ones who have out of this high school crop.
ICEBERG18
02-23-06, 08:05 PM
I'd take Cody Johnson over Parmelee, Willems and Tillman for sure.
Different strokes for different folks ;)
Off topic- http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/news/060223peralta.html
38Special
02-23-06, 08:28 PM
Different strokes for different folks ;)
Off topic- http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/news/060223peralta.html
96 mph at 16 years old
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http://www.autographedtoyou.com/celebpics/tommy_john5.jpg
SouthernBoSox
02-23-06, 08:33 PM
96 mph at 16 years old
I had the opportunity to see Walden pitch down in Texas and that kid can BRING IT. His coach told me he has touched 99 a few times this season. Scary stuff for a kid in High School.
38Special
02-23-06, 08:35 PM
I had the opportunity to see Walden pitch down in Texas and that kid can BRING IT. His coach told me he has touched 99 a few times this season. Scary stuff for a kid in High School.
Jordan Walden gets two Tommy John's up
http://www.autographedtoyou.com/celebpics/tommy_john5.jpg
http://www.autographedtoyou.com/celebpics/tommy_john5.jpg
SouthernBoSox
02-23-06, 08:37 PM
Jordan Walden gets two Tommy John's up
lol good call.
Matsui55
02-23-06, 09:26 PM
I think what we need most is more power arms both in the infield and on the mound. Especially ones who could be converted to catcher
You might note on the BA top 25 D&F list- Matt Wallach (Tim Wallach's son), who is a lefty hitting juco C is at #17 on the list. SUpposedly has a very good bat, and made a nice transition to C.
DaYanks4Life
02-23-06, 09:33 PM
You might note on the BA top 25 D&F list- Matt Wallach (Tim Wallach's son), who is a lefty hitting juco C is at #17 on the list. SUpposedly has a very good bat, and made a nice transition to C.
Just about a must we sign him. Good bloodlines.
38Special
02-23-06, 10:18 PM
You might note on the BA top 25 D&F list- Matt Wallach (Tim Wallach's son), who is a lefty hitting juco C is at #17 on the list. SUpposedly has a very good bat, and made a nice transition to C.
Yeah I'm excited about him. Hopefully Styes and Lee have good springs as well although Styes doesnt look good so far
sugmasterflex
02-24-06, 01:49 AM
Off topic- http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/news/060223peralta.html
I'll counter with Daniel Hill. :)
IrishYankee
02-24-06, 03:46 AM
Yeah Wallach is quite interesting. I didn't realize he was our D&F until a while back, nice low risk move if they end up signing him.
jeter62375
02-24-06, 09:37 AM
What are the chances the Yanks take Joba Chamberlain with their 1st round pick ??
He's a proven college power pitcher, built in the mold of Clemens or Schilling and you gotta love the makeup, level-headed, confident, grounded.
http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/college/060224preview.html
ICEBERG18
02-24-06, 10:14 AM
I'll counter with Daniel Hill. :)
Forgot about him.
jeter62375
02-24-06, 11:54 AM
Which Daniel Hill are you referring to ??
DaYanks4Life
02-24-06, 12:04 PM
Which Daniel Hill are you referring to ??
16 yr old latin kid we signed that throws 90-92 mph
Steph19
02-24-06, 05:36 PM
What are the chances the Yanks take Joba Chamberlain with their 1st round pick ??
He's a proven college power pitcher, built in the mold of Clemens or Schilling and you gotta love the makeup, level-headed, confident, grounded.
http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/college/060224preview.html
I've liked Joba since last year's CWS. If Bettances is unavailable, I'd love to pick him.
surge511
02-26-06, 08:33 PM
I'm sorry, I haven't been following this whole thread, but I was interested as to what early picks we have in the upcoming draft. Thanks. Hopefully we can get some catching and some LHP...
DaYanks4Life
02-26-06, 08:41 PM
We pick 21st and 41st overall then don't pick unti lthe 3rd round.
surge511
02-26-06, 09:57 PM
Ok, thanks. We should be able to snag some very good talent with those 2 picks. Let's hope 2006 brings another successful draft to the Yankees.
DaYanks4Life
02-27-06, 12:05 AM
Our focus needs to be on acquiring high-end talent so I hope we don't fall in the trap of drafting exclusively for need.
Posada_20
02-27-06, 09:29 AM
Nah. Cashman has really made an effort to focus on rebuilding the farm system and the draft so I suspect that they will go after the best available talent.
jareddudleyfanclub
02-27-06, 10:23 AM
Our focus needs to be on acquiring high-end talent so I hope we don't fall in the trap of drafting exclusively for need.
I agree because drafting for need does not make much sense especially with the yankees. You never know what free agents will make their way to the team and block the road for prospects. Especially because prospects take a few years to develop and who can say what the yankee roster will be by then. They might as well go out and get guys with huge upsides and just hope they develop. The law of averages would suggest that some will eventually and if you are the yankees all you need is a few prospects to develop to fill holes here and there.
jerez23
02-27-06, 11:09 AM
How is this for sleeper pick?
David Huff, LHP, 6-2, 210lbs, Junior, UCLA
Stats so far this year:
1-2 2.10 Era 30IP 33K 7BB 24H
Pitched great in the Cape Cod League last summer and is off to a good start this year. This guy is flying under the radar a little. Perhaps tab him with the 41st pick? Does anybody know his arsenal?
38Special
02-27-06, 11:57 AM
How is this for sleeper pick?
David Huff, LHP, 6-2, 210lbs, Junior, UCLA
Stats so far this year:
1-2 2.10 Era 30IP 33K 7BB 24H
Pitched great in the Cape Cod League last summer and is off to a good start this year. This guy is flying under the radar a little. Perhaps tab him with the 41st pick? Does anybody know his arsenal?
from BA's pre 2005 draft
Huff instantly became one of the marquee pitchers at the junior college level when he dropped out of UC Irvine after his freshman year and transferred to Cypress, a perennial California power. He went 3-0, 3.00 in 31 appearances at Irvine last year and dominated the Cape Cod League last summer, posting the league’s fourth-best ERA at 1.09. He was expected to be even more dominant this spring, but a lack of run support and a loss of velocity, blamed on tenderness in his forearm, contributed to a disappointing 2-2, 3.17 record, though his secondary numbers were still impressive. His fastball, clocked at 87-88 mph early in the season, eventually dipped to 82-85. Huff’s signature pitch, however, is his changeup. It’s such an impressive offering that scouts say it resembles the one thrown by Padres closer Trevor Hoffman. Huff also has an exceptional feel for pitching and locates all his pitches well. He’s reportedly asking for first- or second-round money, which may cause clubs to steer away and clear the way for him to rejoin former Irvine coach John Savage, now at UCLA
jerez23
02-27-06, 12:26 PM
from BA's pre 2005 draft
Thanks 38! With his peripherals so far this year I thought he would have a little more zip on his fastball. Seems to have good feel for his secondary stuff though. I guess that's why he is making hitters miss this year.
Hidekifan57
02-27-06, 01:49 PM
2006 Draft Tracker: Orioles Eye Impact Bat (http://yankees.scout.com/2/503052.html)
Check this out. This is a series of articles I'll be doing as we lead up to the draft. I'm speaking with every scouting director to get this info and I'll throw in any talk I get from scouts. This piece is a free preview to give everyone an idea of what these articles will be about. I spoke to O's scouting director Joe Jordan and he was pretty candid. Enjoy it.
Do we have a chance on Drew Stubbs? I hope we can draft him.
One player slipping in the minds of some is Texas center fielder Drew Stubbs. Entering the year ahead of Longoria by most accounts, Stubbs is a dynamic athlete and a fantastic outfielder, but he’s yet to convince some evaluators that he can make consistent contact at the major league level, as he’s recorded 167 whiffs in 629 college at-bats. However, with plus or better tools across the board, he may have a ceiling higher than any player in the draft. “He’s a 70 [on the 20-80 scouting scale] center fielder in the big leagues right now, and if he hits, he’ll have power--but I’m still on the fence about him,” said one scouting director. Another scouting director remains high on Stubbs, seeing him as the top college position player. “He just has such great tools, and such great athleticism and he’s one of the best 10 center fielders in baseball right now, at any level,” said the scouting director. “He doesn’t have to improve that much to be more valuable long-term than Longoria--Stubbs just has far more impact-player potential.” An amateur scout who recently saw Stubbs summed up the debate concisely. “He’s the kind of guy you hope is not on the board anymore when you pick. You don’t want to necessarily take him, but you don’t want to be the team that missed out on him either.”
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=4855
One player slipping in the minds of some is Texas center fielder Drew Stubbs. Entering the year ahead of Longoria by most accounts, Stubbs is a dynamic athlete and a fantastic outfielder, but he’s yet to convince some evaluators that he can make consistent contact at the major league level, as he’s recorded 167 whiffs in 629 college at-bats. However, with plus or better tools across the board, he may have a ceiling higher than any player in the draft. “He’s a 70 [on the 20-80 scouting scale] center fielder in the big leagues right now, and if he hits, he’ll have power--but I’m still on the fence about him,” said one scouting director. Another scouting director remains high on Stubbs, seeing him as the top college position player. “He just has such great tools, and such great athleticism and he’s one of the best 10 center fielders in baseball right now, at any level,” said the scouting director. “He doesn’t have to improve that much to be more valuable long-term than Longoria--Stubbs just has far more impact-player potential.” An amateur scout who recently saw Stubbs summed up the debate concisely. “He’s the kind of guy you hope is not on the board anymore when you pick. You don’t want to necessarily take him, but you don’t want to be the team that missed out on him either.”
He sounds a lot like Tim Battle.
Interesting thing about Stubbs; the Astros thought they had him locked up coming out of high school.
If you saw Drew Stubbs play center field for the University of Texas on Friday, you might have been reminded of a young Carlos Beltran.
The Astros thought so as well three summers ago when they agreed to a pre-draft deal of $900,000 and took him in the third round of the draft out of Atlanta High School.
Astros owner Drayton McLane, under pressure from Bud Selig's office to stay within mandated signing guidelines, ordered his scouting staff to reneg on the offer and lower it to $450,000.
Stubbs signed with the Longhorns.
''I wouldn't say we reneged,'' McLane told me last summer. ''I never approved the deal you're talking about.''
His baseball people clearly didn't think his approval would be an issue. Signing Stubbs should have been as routine as signing any other draft choice that year.
''Please don't mention Drew Stubbs to me,'' a club source told me last summer. ''I get sick thinking about the way we handled that.''
''We had a firm figure,'' Rick Stubbs, the player's father, said last summer. ''The Astros knew what it was. I remember sitting with one of their scouts and discussing this. He said, 'Are you telling me that if we offer $750,000, he won't sign?' I said, 'I'm telling you if you offer $889,000, he won't sign.'
''I'm angry with the way they handled it. They strung us along for a month. They asked Drew not to play summer ball. They understood what our price was. They said they needed to sign the guy they picked in front of him. They said they had the money and would pay us what we wanted. We waited a month.''
http://blogs.chron.com/sportsjustice/archives/2006/02/vince_young_vs.html
38Special
03-13-06, 12:20 PM
I pray Stubbs doesnt fall to us. The reason you take college kids is because they're more polished and closer to the show. Stubbs still has horrible contact issues and didnt exactly light up the world when he did make contact (avg in the low 300s, decent power). Theres way too much projection needed for him despite him being a college player with less years of development than a Battle-type
His 2005 strikeouts averaged out to 550 ABs: 137
His 2006 strikeouts averaged out to 550 ABs: 144
So basically he's made no improvement at all this year...
ICEBERG18
03-13-06, 02:20 PM
I pray Stubbs doesnt fall to us....
Im with you on that one...
BomberBrian
03-13-06, 05:35 PM
I know you rarely draft for need in baseball, but the last thing the Yankees need in round 1 is a CF prospect.
I pray Stubbs doesnt fall to us. The reason you take college kids is because they're more polished and closer to the show. Stubbs still has horrible contact issues and didnt exactly light up the world when he did make contact (avg in the low 300s, decent power). Theres way too much projection needed for him despite him being a college player with less years of development than a Battle-type
His 2005 strikeouts averaged out to 550 ABs: 137
His 2006 strikeouts averaged out to 550 ABs: 144
So basically he's made no improvement at all this year...
Thanks for the information, I haven't noticed it.
Johnny Blaze
03-13-06, 09:11 PM
I saw 3 Yankee scouts this Sunday at the college game here in San Diego, they were watching 6'5 Josh Butler - RHP from U. of San Diego. He would be a great pick as a late first rounder, he was mid 90's with a real good slider and change-up. I was sitting the row behind a bunch of scouts (there must have been 50 or so there) and it sounds like Butler is being considered as a middle-to late 1st rounder.
Hidekifan57
03-13-06, 09:20 PM
Good pickup JB. I'll have to do some research on Butler.
http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/a-weekend-with-andrew-miller-and-daniel-bard/
Johnny Blaze
03-13-06, 11:57 PM
both sound like they are living up to the hype, Miller and Bard. Sounds like we have no hope at them where we pick, after seeing Butler he looked a lot like Jered Weaver (similar delivery and arm angle) and his stuff was not that far behind. I think the only thing keeping him from being in the top 15 picks is the lack of history to this guy (?) I have only heard of him due to the fact he pitches out here in So-Cal and his numbers were decent as a soph. not "lights out". I wouldn't mind a nice reliever that is close to the big leagues at #41, maybe a Tim Lincecum (Tom Gordon clone) or a Mark Melancon, but those guys may go off late first to early comp.
AustinTXHorn
03-14-06, 03:38 AM
“He’s the kind of guy you hope is not on the board anymore when you pick. You don’t want to necessarily take him, but you don’t want to be the team that missed out on him either.”
I've watched nearly every game Stubbs has played for three years, and this is the best quote that I've ever seen on him. It is dead on. As a Ranger fan, I would not want to use a pick on him. But he could also become one of the best players in the major leagues with his potential.
There is no way in the world that Stubbs will fall all the way down to the Yankees. I believe that he will be a top 10 pick pretty much no matter what.
Stubbs' problem is the curveball. He can't hit it. Throw him a fastball, and he'll hit hit a long ways. Throw him a curveball, and you'll make him look silly. He has the potential to be a .400 hitter with 15-20 home runs in college but just doesn't do it. When he does make contact, he's been awesome. When Stubbs puts the ball in play, he's a .460 hitter this season. He hasn't made much improvement at the plate over his past three years, but one thing he has done is walk more. This year, he's got 16 walks to go along with the 21 Ks. Part of that, however, is teams pitching around him because the lineup was struggling for awhile.
As the scouting reports say, he's an amazing defensive center fielder. He's also one of the fastest players in college baseball, even at 6'5.
But long story short, his swing is too long and he doesn't make contact nearly enough. He's a +.320 hitter in college on metal bats. Take away some of the aluminum bat hits, some of the infield singles that he can beat out with his speed on slow/poor defense, some of the astroturf singles (Texas plays on astroturf), etc. and you have a guy who's suddenly hitting .240 in pro baseball with a arseload of K's.
I'm not very high on him.
AustinTXHorn
03-14-06, 03:48 AM
I wouldn't mind a nice reliever that is close to the big leagues at #41, maybe a Tim Lincecum (Tom Gordon clone) or a Mark Melancon, but those guys may go off late first to early comp.
One guy who I think could be better than both and a complete steal is Eddie Degerman from Rice. His delivery is similar to Lincecum's, so he's going to have some arm problems at some point. Difference is that Degerman doesn't throw quite as hard, his control is much better, and I think his breaking stuff is just as good if not better.
He won't go high at all. He had a great season last year and I believe was drafted in the 42nd round by the Red Sox.
His stats this year -- 36.2 IP, 21 H, 4 ER (0.98 ERA), 12 BB, 52 K
His coach, Wayne Graham, thinks that he has a shot to be a September callup in somebody's bullpen this year.
Johnny Blaze
03-14-06, 09:47 AM
you know, I've seen Degerman's numbers and they ARE ridiculous! I had heard though, and correct me if I'm wrong, cuz I have not seen him throw, that he is like 85-87 mph? Damon Oppenheimer is a gambler and I think he is gonna pop the two best guys left on the board when it comes around to # 21 and 41. It will be interesting to see what HS kids start to seperate themselves in the next few months. I wouldn't mind an arm like Chris Tillman, he is being compared to a young Jon Garland out in California or a LH bat like Chris Parmalee.
sugmasterflex
03-14-06, 11:08 AM
I am really intrigued by Brad Lincoln.
Despite his prowess as a left-handed slugger, his future lies on the mound where he uses a 90-95 mph fastball and a hard-breaking curveball that has been compared to Ben Sheets'. He was named the sixth best prospect on the Cape according to Baseball America during the summer of 2005, and was awarded the Cape's 10th player award for his leadership abilities on and off the field.
http://www.brewerfan.net/ViewAmateurPlayerProfile.do?playerId=512&draftId=4
Houston RHP <!--EZCODE BOLD START-->Brad Lincoln<!--EZCODE BOLD END--> got fired up after his manager got tossed from Houston's game vs. UC Irvine. After the ejection, Lincoln struck out the side in the 7th, led off the 8th with a absolute moon-shot that gave the Cougars a 1-run lead, and then struck out the side again in the bottom of the 8th.
http://p092.ezboard.com/fbrewersfandemoniumfrm9.showMessageRange?topicID=852.topic&start=61&stop=75
AustinTXHorn
03-14-06, 01:14 PM
you know, I've seen Degerman's numbers and they ARE ridiculous! I had heard though, and correct me if I'm wrong, cuz I have not seen him throw, that he is like 85-87 mph?
I think he's more in between 88-91 than the mid-80s. Not a great fastball, but good enough to get by.
Johnny Blaze
03-14-06, 04:57 PM
College Arms on the Rise-2006
For the most part the top players available for each year's respective draft are well-known commodities entering the spring scouting season, a tribute to the evaluation talents of Major League scouting departments. It is very rare that you ever have a true sleeper rise up from out of nowhere to establish themselves as an early round pick, particularly from the college ranks. John Van Benschoten from Kent State, the eighth overall pick in the 2001 draft (Pirates), is probably the last example of such a virtually unknown college player making such a dramatic leap up draft boards. Many to most of the top college players are also quite often the best unsigned high school players from three years prior, which is best evidenced by some of the best college prospects available for this June's draft including Andrew Miller, Daniel Bard, Ian Kennedy, Drew Stubbs, Jared Hughes and Colin Curtis.
This year's college draft class also offers some intriguing names that leaped up draft boards after strong performances in the Cape Cod League last summer. Evan Longoria, Brad Lincoln, Brandon Morrow, Chris Errecart and Greg Reynolds were among the league's best and brightest, and their performances thus far this season have only solidified their lofty status. Even those players were to varying degrees well-known players coming out of high school despite taking a few years at the college level to blossom.
If you recognize some of the names already mentioned you'll see most of them are pitchers, who seem to rise and fall a lot faster than their hitting counterparts. Last year (5/4/05) I wrote a similar column featuring some of the more notable college pitchers that had made the biggest rise within the spring scouting season, with four of the five players featured rising up to be among the top 49 players selected. Here is an early list of the top college pitchers making the most of their opportunities this spring to be considered earlier than originally expected in this June's draft:
1. Josh Butler-RHP-University of San Diego
Butler is far from unknown, but so far this year he may have made himself hundreds of thousands of dollars with his early returns. He started the season by shutting down then-number one ranked Texas, and his only loss of the year so far came last Friday in a 1-0 contest against the Georgia Bulldogs on the road. With a pitcher's frame that scouts love (6'5", 200) and a repertoire to match (90-94 fastball, wicked slider, good changeup), Butler could very well find himself taken in the middle of the first round come June. He attended the 2002 Perfect Game National, so you know he's been on PG's radar for a while.
I was able to find out some info on Butler from USD, this is from a Perfect Game USA website, not sure who the writer is though
Johnny Blaze
04-04-06, 10:12 AM
what about taking a guy like Tim Lincecum with a late first or a sandwich pick and moving him to the bullpen? He dominated in the Cape as a closer and could be another Tom Gordon (small righty with plus fb and cb)? His linescore against UCLA looks fake, 9 inn, 2H, 0R, 1BB, 18K's! Unreal.
Iknowcool
04-05-06, 10:45 PM
I think Lincecum could be a steal, he has great stuff, but his size is going to make him a second rounder. If hes available with the 2nd rounder, I say take him.
Iknowcool
04-05-06, 10:48 PM
Good article on Lincecum,
http://www.kingcountyjournal.com/sited/story/html/208506
Says he might be like Tim Hudson, who went in the sixth round because of his size. Also, says BA projects him to be a third-sixth rounder.
Johnny Blaze
04-06-06, 09:48 AM
I think that article was from June 0f 2005 though, looking at his numbers as a Closer in the Cape they were unreal last summer, and apparently he's run it up to 98-99 mph at times this spring. I agree I would rather take him in the 2nd round (size questions) but I have a feeling some team will look at his stuff and take him with a late 1st or sandwich pick, especially with alot of the other "names" out there stuggling - Scherzer, Buck, etc.
http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/draft/features/26940.html
http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/askba/26969.html
I like Lincecum, but he seems to be a first round pick because of lack of position players in the college and high school ranks this year. Lots of team may choose college pitchers in the coming draft and Lincecum likely will be one of them. As no way I will use a first round pick to choose a reliever, I don't think we can draft him at the right round.
An interesting pick is Notre Dame righthander Jeff Samardzija. He is a 1st round talent but will be available in the later round, as he's also a football star receiver. Maybe we can use a AJ strategy to him.
IrishYankee
04-07-06, 08:21 AM
I doubt it. Its a good idea, but Samardzija is a 1st or 2nd round pick in the NFL when he comes out. And he's football first according to the guys over at irisheyes.com.
Iknowcool
04-07-06, 02:24 PM
Imagine that bullpen.
Closer: Rivera
Set-up: Dotel
Set-up: Farnsworth
Middle relief: JB Cox
Middle relief: Lincecum
long relief: Sturtze/Small
LOOGY: Myers
Iknowcool
04-07-06, 02:38 PM
This draft is really short on top-flight, can't miss talent. So by the 21st pick, all of the can't miss picks should be gone. All that will be left is the second tier of high-school talent, which is very unpredictable. I wouldn't be surprised if we could get a player of equal talent with our #40 as with our #21.. Unless a polished college pitcher (Chamberlain, Morrow) or a great HS talent (Betances, Johnson) drops to us, I would have no problem drafting Lincecum or any other polished college reliever with similar stuff in the first round.
Iknowcool
04-10-06, 05:25 PM
kasey kirker reminds me of scott kazmir
27IsNext
04-10-06, 05:35 PM
I'd like to draft a catcher and a set-up man to one day complement Farnsworth with our two first-round picks, if this year's draft is indeed short on high-upside guys.
Posada_20
04-11-06, 10:06 AM
Check out this article on RIley Cooper. He is out for the season.
http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:4GNkGktlXYoJ:www.sptimes.com/2006/03/24/Sports/CCC_s_Cooper_out_for_.shtml+Riley+Cooper&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=10
DaYanks4Life
04-11-06, 10:47 AM
Check out this article on RIley Cooper. He is out for the season.
http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:4GNkGktlXYoJ:www.sptimes.com/2006/03/24/Sports/CCC_s_Cooper_out_for_.shtml+Riley+Cooper&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=10
Sounds like a serious head case and his story doesn't sound believable. Pass..
sugmasterflex
04-11-06, 11:13 AM
Paging Jared Mitchell...
bmxstreetrider86
04-11-06, 04:14 PM
we could probly get him late and pay him some money
when i was in highschool, i no i did some stupid stuff
probably related to alcohol
we could probly get him late and pay him some money
when i was in highschool, i no i did some stupid stuff
probably related to alcohol
Agreed. He's still young, only 18 years old and has first three rounds' talent. If this means his stock drops and cost litte money, we should grab him.
Agreed. He's still young, only 18 years old and has first three rounds' talent. If this means his stock drops and cost litte money, we should grab him.
I don't think it would cost little money, but if he drops to second round or so, which, to be fair, remains unlikely, I'd definitely pick him.
bmxstreetrider86
04-12-06, 02:05 PM
i think with this incedent and the fact that he has a strong commitment to going to college, he is def going between 5-8
jackson didnt have makeup questions, just a strong college commitment and he fell to the 8th round, and he was a first round talent too
sugmasterflex
04-12-06, 08:04 PM
I'm not saying drafting Cooper is totally out of the question, just that Jared Mitchell has now surpassed him in my eyes because of the incident.
bmxstreetrider86
04-12-06, 08:07 PM
heck, if i were the yanks, i would go for both.
pretty unrealistic, but im a dreamer :)
bmxstreetrider86
04-12-06, 08:08 PM
i no its early but, anyone have any ideas on how our draft might shake out?
id like to see:
1st: betances
sup 1st: sapp
3rd: carmine giardina
that would be good for me, though i dont think it will happen
sugmasterflex
04-12-06, 08:13 PM
anyway, anyone have any ideas on how our draft might shake out?
Too early. It can still go a number of ways. If Brad Lincoln or Chris Marrero are there for #21 it would be a great pick. I really like Josh Thrailkill for #41.
Iknowcool
04-13-06, 04:38 PM
best player in the 1st, a catcher with the #40, and a pircher with the 3rd
Yankyfan
04-13-06, 07:20 PM
I say and always will say go pitching young man.:D
http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/college/features/261004.html
The FUTURE
04-13-06, 11:43 PM
1st Pick:Cody Johnson 1B/OF (make him an OF)
2nd Pick:Max Sapp C
3rd Pick:Best Pitcher Available
jerez23
04-14-06, 12:53 PM
Anybody have any news on Cody Johnson? I am curious to see how he is doing this spring.
38Special
04-14-06, 12:55 PM
apparently he's got bigger holes in his swing than Harris and Poterson combined
Pitching, Pitching and more pitching. You can never have enough
ICEBERG18
04-19-06, 11:33 AM
http://baseballwebtv.com/
DaYanks4Life
04-19-06, 11:49 AM
http://baseballwebtv.com/
Thanks ICE, nice site to keep up with potential draft picks.
ICEBERG18
04-19-06, 11:52 AM
Thanks ICE, nice site to keep up with potential draft picks.
No problem.
AustinTXHorn
04-19-06, 11:53 AM
It will be interesting to see how far Scherzer falls with his arm questions that have come up this year. He's missed at least half of the season with problems.
ICEBERG18
04-19-06, 12:07 PM
1st Pick:Cody Johnson 1B/OF (make him an OF)
I rather Devin Shepherd then him.
http://baseballwebtv.com/Video/ShowVideo.aspx?VideoId=281
Yankyfan
04-19-06, 01:56 PM
Young pitching.It might sound crazy but every year I use my first 10 rds for pitchers only.
Kulish29
04-19-06, 02:40 PM
MLB released the 2006 Draft order for the first 5 rounds.
http://mlb.mlb.com/pressbox/downloads/y2006/draft_order_06.pdf
sugmasterflex
04-19-06, 05:28 PM
I rather Devin Shepherd then him.
http://baseballwebtv.com/Video/ShowVideo.aspx?VideoId=281
I like Chris Marrero better than both of them.
ICEBERG18
04-19-06, 06:02 PM
I like Chris Marrero better than both of them.
You know i love him as a player. If he's on the board at #21 (Not happening), i would clearly take him. ;)
sugmasterflex
04-19-06, 09:12 PM
You know i love him as a player. If he's on the board at #21 (Not happening), i would clearly take him. ;)
Eric Duncan was projected to go #14 to the Reds. Phil Hughes almost went #12 to the Angels. It wouldn't shock me if Marrero was there at #21.
http://minorleagueball.com/story/2006/4/19/163325/882#commenttop
albo4lyfe
04-19-06, 10:18 PM
Eric Duncan was projected to go #14 to the Reds. Phil Hughes almost went #12 to the Angels. It wouldn't shock me if Marrero was there at #21.
Yeah, but those years other good prospects were available. This year if Marrero is available at 21 then a lot of teams reached for other players. Marrero is easily the best HS position prospect, so I don't expect him to be available at 21.
A player that might be on the rise is Miami's closer Chris Perez.
27.2 IP, 16 H, 5 ER (1.63 ERA), 15 BB, 36 k, 8 SV
The walks are a little high, but he has been throwing in the mid 90's with a nasty curve all year. His stuff and large frame is comparable to Craig Hansen's.
Iknowcool
04-20-06, 05:27 PM
Our pal Buster Olney says KC is looking at Lincecum at #1.....overall....
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?name=olney_buster#20060420
Yankyfan
04-20-06, 05:37 PM
I want Betences if he's there .If not I'd like Hughes.I wanted Jaret out of HS.Teams passed because of injury fears.
albo4lyfe
04-20-06, 05:46 PM
Our pal Buster Olney says KC is looking at Lincecum at #1.....overall....
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?name=olney_buster#20060420
Lincecum, #1 overall? Just goes to show you how weak this draft class is.
AustinTXHorn
04-20-06, 06:38 PM
Our pal Buster Olney says KC is looking at Lincecum at #1.....overall.... http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?name=olney_buster#20060420 (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?name=olney_buster#20060420 )
Buster Olney is going crazy. There's no chance that the Royals would take him at #1 overall. At least they'd be crazy to do it.
This is just like last year's rumors that KC might pass up Gordon to take Cliff Pennington in the first round. Except this makes less sense because I'm pretty sure Lincecum is a Boras guy and he won't be cheap at all.
EDIT: Lincecum isn't a Boras guy apparently, but he did ask for a $1 million bonus last year and that dropped him all the way to the 42nd round.
BomberBrian
04-20-06, 07:06 PM
I will be absolutely stunned if the Royals don't take Andrew Miller.
http://minorleagueball.com/story/2006/4/20/16241/2063#commenttop
bmxstreetrider86
04-20-06, 08:56 PM
in the latest "ask BA", everyones favorite callis picks his top 20 prospects for the 2006 draft (yankees pick 21)
1. Andrew Miller, lhp, North Carolina
Would have been a first-rounder out of high school had he been signable
2. Brandon Morrow, rhp, California
Starting to harness his upper-90s heat and flashing good secondary stuff
3. Tim Lincecum, rhp, Washington
Has blown away college hitters since last summer in Cape Cod
4. Brad Lincoln, rhp, Houston
Should be even more effective on the mound once he gives up hitting
5. Evan Longoria, 3b, Long Beach State
The best position player available, but more of a solid guy than a superstar
6. Drew Stubbs, of, Texas
Scouts love his tools but still have questions about how he'll hit in the majors
7. Matt LaPorta, 1b, Florida
Turning on the power after being slowed by an oblique strain
8. Clayton Kershaw, lhp, Highland Park HS (Dallas)
Top high school prospect after entering year as projected second- or third-rounder
9. Joba Chamberlain, rhp, Nebraska
Regaining his form after early-season bout with triceps tendinitis
10. Kyle Drabek, rhp, The Woodlands (Texas) HS
Could be first prep middle infielder taken—if he weren't so talented on the mound
11. Max Scherzer, rhp, Missouri
Can't rank him higher until he bounces back from shoulder tendinitis
12. Ian Kennedy, rhp, Southern California
Has lost a little off an already average fastball, but he knows how to pitch
13. Kyle McCulloch, rhp, Texas
Like the Longhorns and Stubbs, getting it going after a slow start
14. Wes Hodges, 3b, Georgia Tech
One of only a handful of position players with a chance to go in the top half of the first round
15. Daniel Bard, rhp, North Carolina
Would move up if he showed a more consistent breaking ball and success
16. Chris Tillman, rhp, Fountain Valley (Calif.) HS
Classic high school projectable pitcher at 6-foot-7 and 185 pounds
17. Brett Sinkbeil, rhp, Missouri State
Doesn't get Scherzer's hype, but he has been the top pitcher in Missouri this spring
18. Chris Marrero, 3b, Monsignor Pace HS (Opa Locka, Fla.)
Best high school position player has impressive tools but hasn't performed up to expectations
19. Justin Masterson, rhp, San Diego State
The breakout player in the Cape Cod League summer starts for the Aztecs but projects as a reliever
20. Mark Melancon, rhp, Arizona
Might be the next college reliever to reach the majors a few months after signing
bmxstreetrider86
04-20-06, 09:00 PM
if it plays out similarly, we have a shot at the top prep pitchers:
walden
latos
betances
anderson
and some HS position players:
cody johnson
max sapp
ect..
Yankyfan
04-20-06, 09:11 PM
Betences would be great ! A local kid who loves the Yanks.;)
IrishYankee
04-20-06, 09:11 PM
I like Betances all the way. Don't want Cody Johnson.
albo4lyfe
04-20-06, 09:13 PM
if it plays out similarly, we have a shot at the top prep pitchers:
walden
latos
betances
anderson
and some HS position players:
cody johnson
max sapp
ect..
I would definitely go w/ a prep pitcher there. The HS position players aren't good after Marrero, although Sapp is intriguing but not good enough to pass on Walden/Betances/Latos/Anderson.
albo4lyfe
04-20-06, 09:15 PM
I like Betances all the way. Don't want Cody Johnson.
Just a feeling that I have that Johnson is a lot similar to Poterson as a hitter. Don't want to go down that road again.
Yankyfan
04-20-06, 09:17 PM
Pitching please!!
albo4lyfe
04-20-06, 09:19 PM
Pitching please!!
Definitely. The only hitters I'd take w/ the 21st would be Marrero or Longoria. And seeing how weak this class is in hitting, I don't expect them to be available.
IrishYankee
04-20-06, 09:24 PM
Definitely pitching this year. It should be an interesting draft anyway, but I can't see any positional players to whet the appetite being available at 21.
bmxstreetrider86
04-20-06, 10:27 PM
yea i like the prep pitching too
i would rank them in this order (just personal)
1. betances
2. anderson
3. latos
4. walden
bmxstreetrider86
04-20-06, 10:28 PM
the thing that i like is there might be a slight chance we can get 2 of these guys
NYDCYankee
04-21-06, 03:03 AM
5. Evan Longoria, 3b, Long Beach State
The best position player available, but more of a solid guy than a superstar
Does he have a hot older sister?
albo4lyfe
04-21-06, 03:13 AM
Does he have a hot older sister?
Nope, not related at all.
albo4lyfe
04-21-06, 03:20 AM
the thing that i like is there might be a slight chance we can get 2 of these guys
Those are some of the top HS pitching prospects but there are other fine ones as well. Drabek, Tillman, Jeffress, Willems, Kiker and the like.
bmxstreetrider86
04-21-06, 03:27 AM
i like willems alot after reading about him
as far as my rankings go before, if anderson is there at 21 and he will sign, then i have to take him because he is a polished LHP who throws strikes and had a pretty good FB(perfect game says he has been 92-93 most of the year)
i like the hometown betances and his stuff and potential
i like latos alot, for some reason he reminds me of hughes a little
im a little leary of walden
jeffress's velocity thing scares me a little
drabek i think will be gone, despite his size his stuff is pretty filthy
kikler reminds me of scott kazmir
tillman was one of the top 20, as well as drabek
i also like carmine giardina
albo4lyfe
04-21-06, 03:42 AM
i like willems alot after reading about him
as far as my rankings go before, if anderson is there at 21 and he will sign, then i have to take him because he is a polished LHP who throws strikes and had a pretty good FB(perfect game says he has been 92-93 most of the year)
i like the hometown betances and his stuff and potential
i like latos alot, for some reason he reminds me of hughes a little
im a little leary of walden
jeffress's velocity thing scares me a little
drabek i think will be gone, despite his size his stuff is pretty filthy
kikler reminds me of scott kazmir
tillman was one of the top 20, as well as drabek
i also like carmine giardina
Yeah, the HS arms are pretty impressive and we should be able to land a great arm if we don't take a college one. Too bad we can't say the same thing about the HS hitters.
yank4life2005
04-21-06, 06:43 AM
Pitching is key and NY must draft the best arm at #21.
I hope Betances is available but I highly doubt it unless he hired Boras
as his agent.:P
http://www.brewerfan.net/ViewDraftAmateurPlayerRanking.do?positionId=14&draftId=4
Yankyfan
04-21-06, 09:27 AM
I agree 110%.From pitching anything can be obtained.
Posada_20
04-21-06, 12:28 PM
http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/draft/news/261092.html
Good article on H.S. draft prospects. No mention of Betances as a 1st rounder though.
Fabien Brandy
04-21-06, 12:42 PM
Kershaw and Latos sound like possibilities.
albo4lyfe
04-21-06, 12:47 PM
http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/draft/news/261092.html
Good article on H.S. draft prospects. No mention of Betances as a 1st rounder though.
Yeah, I was surprised. Now he's ranked as the 21st best prep prospect. Anyone know if he's having a bad season or have the other prospects just performed better and climbed their way up?
jareddudleyfanclub
04-21-06, 02:47 PM
On BA, Jim Callis ranks his top twenty and Betances is not on the list. If he falls to the yankees I think they would definitely take him because they like to take local guys sometimes (Duncan, Battle...). I would love that so much if they could scoop him up.
Also, Melancon from Arizona would be a very intelligent safe pick because he could pitch for the yankees this year down the stretch. that would be helpful
AustinTXHorn
04-21-06, 03:05 PM
On BA, Jim Callis ranks his top twenty and Betances is not on the list.
Same with Walden. I was pretty sure Walden was supposed to be a top 10 lock. Maybe not.
But I would be afraid to pick Walden if I were any big league club. Any high school kid throwing 99 MPH is just screaming to be problems. Colt Griffin anybody?
As long as they imploy the same philosophy as the past 3 years I'll be happy with whomever they choose.
Kulish29
04-21-06, 03:11 PM
Q: Josh from Kansas City asks:
Any word on Luke Hochevar?
A: Matt Meyers: From what I gather, he is not going to sign with the Dodgers so he is preparing to go back into the 2006 draft. Because this draft is considered so weak, it seems like a good year for him to be doing it. That worked out well for him and his agent, the loveable Scott Boras.
If Hochevar falls to the supp round due to signability concerns, I want him.
bmxstreetrider86
04-21-06, 03:13 PM
i would love to see:
1st- Anderson
1st Sup- Betances/Latos
3rd- willems
jareddudleyfanclub
04-21-06, 03:32 PM
If Hovechar falls to our first pick I would take him in a heartbeat
albo4lyfe
04-21-06, 03:36 PM
If Hovechar falls to our first pick I would take him in a heartbeat
I wouldn't. His stuff isn't that great, he'll want a lot of money and he hasn't pitched meaningful baseball in a year. We can do better w/ our first.
Kulish29
04-21-06, 03:42 PM
I wouldn't. His stuff isn't that great, he'll want a lot of money and he hasn't pitched meaningful baseball in a year. We can do better w/ our first.
I'm sure he's kept in shape. If he falls to the Yankees pick in the supp round, he should be picked. The Yankees dont often get a chance to draft that kind of talent.
albo4lyfe
04-21-06, 03:50 PM
I'm sure he's kept in shape. If he falls to the Yankees pick in the supp round, he should be picked. The Yankees dont often get a chance to draft that kind of talent.
Just keeping in shape isn't everything. He needs coaching and facing real hitters. I don't think he should be picked, he isn't a special pitcher like Pelfrey is to be spending the money that he wants and we'll be able to get equal talent anyways.
Yankyfan
04-21-06, 07:13 PM
In the last BA top 50 h.s players Betences has dropped to 21 and I couldn't be happier!! Mix in a few college guys and Whamo...He's ours !!:P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P
albo4lyfe
04-21-06, 07:22 PM
In the last BA top 50 h.s players Betences has dropped to 21 and I couldn't be happier!! Mix in a few college guys and Whamo...He's ours !!:P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P
LOL, now only if scouting directors paid any attention to BA's ranking of players then we'd be in real luck.
LOL, now only if scouting directors paid any attention to BA's ranking of players then we'd be in real luck.
You mean Billy Beane?
Fabien Brandy
04-21-06, 07:34 PM
The problem is that the rankings are so influenced by the current season that as the draft gets closer we can't know who will be 'hot' or not.
Does anyone remember where C.J. Henry was on BA's lists from April 2005?
albo4lyfe
04-21-06, 07:43 PM
The problem is that the rankings are so influenced by the current season that as the draft gets closer we can't know who will be 'hot' or not.
Does anyone remember where C.J. Henry was on BA's lists from April 2005?
Was he in the 70's or was that in February? I remember him being in the 70's once and then 33 or so and then even better near the draft.
albo4lyfe
04-21-06, 07:45 PM
You mean Billy Beane?
Huh ?
Huh ?
Beane is an extreme case. I just want to say that no scouting directors will pay any attention to BA's ranking.
albo4lyfe
04-21-06, 07:56 PM
Beane is an extreme case. I just want to say that no scouting directors will pay any attention to BA's ranking.
Right, I said that, too. You just got me a little confused.
Right, I said that, too. You just got me a little confused.
I'm sorry for that.
albo4lyfe
04-21-06, 07:59 PM
I'm sorry for that.
No biggie.
sugmasterflex
04-21-06, 08:39 PM
Looks like Betances and Marrero are not doing as great as people expected...
A pitcher to keep your eye on is Josh Thrailkill from NC. Has good stuff and Patrick Ebert (PG writer who runs Brewerfan.net) compared him to a possible Hughes coming out of HS. Not quite there yet, but could rise to the level Hughes was at come draft time.
Kershaw will not be available at 21 if he's considered to be the best prep prospect. If you want a good lefty think Brandon Belt for the 3rd round. Belt has 1st supplemental talent but will fall due to his committment to Texas. Big, projectable lefty w/ an improving fastball and good secondary pitches.
IrishYankee
04-21-06, 08:46 PM
I think Betances WILL be very good. If his performance this year allows him to fall to us, GREAT!!
sugmasterflex
04-21-06, 08:50 PM
I think Betances WILL be very good. If his performance this year allows him to fall to us, GREAT!!
In the Daily News article a couple of weeks ago there was some concern about his control. Add in the fact that he is 6-9 and has a lot of moving body parts. I'm not in love with him.
Yankyfan
04-21-06, 09:07 PM
I am!!:P :P
Yankyfan
04-21-06, 09:10 PM
BA is not the know all end all but there pretty on top of the first few rounds minus a few suprises.
Hidekifan57
04-21-06, 09:44 PM
I'll take Chris Tillman, thank you very much.
I am!!:P :P
Because he is 6'9", right? ;)
Well, the last tall HS pitcher we took was 6'8" Matt Drews who was a huge flop. We took him just one spot ahead of some guy named Derrek Lee.
But we did turn him into Cecil Fielder so I guess he wasn't a total bust.
AustinTXHorn
04-22-06, 01:15 AM
Saw Joba Chamberlain tonight. Underwhelming. Control problems with all of his pitches, but especially his breaking stuff. Was throwing pretty hard, probably sitting around 94 MPH, but overall did not have great stuff tonight.
Meh.
sugmasterflex
04-22-06, 05:40 AM
I'll take Chris Tillman, thank you very much.
Why do you like Tillman so much? Just curious.
Hidekifan57
04-22-06, 08:36 AM
He's very polished much like Hughes was coming out of HS in Cali. Plus, he's 6' 7" and very projectable. The command is excellent and that is not the case for Betances who I feel would be much more of a project.
Fabien Brandy
04-22-06, 10:09 AM
I think we'll see Latos and Willems as the two first selections for the Yankees.
Fabien Brandy
04-22-06, 10:55 AM
Do the Yankees grab Max Scherzer if he falls to 21 due to shoulder tendinitis and Scott Boras?
Yankyfan
04-22-06, 01:03 PM
That 6-9 has something to do with it but he's also local.:D
Fabien Brandy
04-22-06, 02:50 PM
That 6-9 has something to do with it but he's also local.:DI think warm weather pitchers are the way to go. CA, TX and FL for me.
Hidekifan57
04-22-06, 03:01 PM
I'm just surprised more people on this board don't mention Tillman at all.
Fabien Brandy
04-22-06, 03:22 PM
I'm just surprised more people on this board don't mention Tillman at all.Is there any basis for how people rank Latos, Willems and Tillman? They seem to be pretty interchangeable to me based on what I've read.
Hidekifan57
04-22-06, 03:38 PM
In my mind, I rank them Tillman, Latos, Willems. Tillman is just a touch more projectable than Latos and a little cleaner mechanics than Willems.
Kulish29
04-22-06, 03:38 PM
I really like Jared Hughes.
Fabien Brandy
04-22-06, 03:45 PM
In my mind, I rank them Tillman, Latos, Willems. Tillman is just a touch more projectable than Latos and a little cleaner mechanics than Willems.Thanks! Would each of them be worth a 21 pick or is there enough of a gap between them?
Hidekifan57
04-22-06, 03:53 PM
This year is going to be so different. Its going to come down to a lot of gut feelings by scouts because this is the most wide open draft some of them have ever seen. Tillman, Willems, Latos could all be gone by 21 or they could all be there. That's how wide open it is.
Matsui55
04-22-06, 04:28 PM
This year is going to be so different. Its going to come down to a lot of gut feelings by scouts because this is the most wide open draft some of them have ever seen. Tillman, Willems, Latos could all be gone by 21 or they could all be there. That's how wide open it is.
I have been hearing that the scouts are REALLY down on the college position guys and all of the HS class. If true, that helps that Yanks as the Sox have a ton of picks that they must spend a ton of money on- and aren't likely to get players worth that kind of money.
Hidekifan57
04-22-06, 04:31 PM
M55, you're absolutely right. So many guys are leaving scouts unimpressed so it leaves it wide open for sleepers.
Iknowcool
04-22-06, 05:33 PM
He might not be available at #21, but I'd like to get Kyle Drabek. His size and underwhelming season so far have caused his stock to fall, but the same can be said for pretty much every HS pitcher.
bmxstreetrider86
04-22-06, 06:22 PM
the reason i havent mentioned tillman is because i think he will be gone
BA had him in thier top 20, and most of the hitters seem to be disappointing
i would love anderson in round 1
and hope latos falls to 41
and then really hope betances falls to our 3rd round pick
i would be pretty happy with that
and then really hope betances falls to our 3rd round pick
There is no way he falls that far. Someone will take a chance on him.
I was trying to figure out why he is dropping when I ran across this from BP from April 06, 2006.
Like many players in the Northeast, Betances doesn't have the experience of players in warm weather climates, and will be a long-term project for whoever drafts him. "He does offer a lot to dream on," said one scouting director. "But his command is all over the place and he's extremely crude." Another scouting director added, "I'm not taking him, but if somebody sees him on the right day, they could be easily convinced that he's worth seven-figures." Betances gets a later start than most, and need to come on quickly, as he was just 89-92 mph in his first start.
38Special
04-22-06, 07:56 PM
Is it too much of a stretch to hope that the Yanks take Cody Johnson in the 3rd or 4th round? He's got an insane Adam Dunn-like ceiling.
IrishYankee
04-22-06, 08:29 PM
Yeah but the chances he makes it to that ceiling have to be considered slim. That swing hasn't holes, it has craters.
I'm all for Tillman if he falls to us. I just think Betances will end up being special. Tillman is probably the safer bet. Lets just take both.
bmxstreetrider86
04-22-06, 09:32 PM
i think someone might take a chance on betances, but i think he should probably be there at 41, like the scout said, i dont think he is worth 7 figures.
but i would rather take the more polished pitchers first
How the hell do you guys know so much about players in the upcoming draft...
sugmasterflex
04-22-06, 10:20 PM
He's very polished much like Hughes was coming out of HS in Cali. Plus, he's 6' 7" and very projectable. The command is excellent and that is not the case for Betances who I feel would be much more of a project.
According to the PG Hot List, as of 4/10 Tillman has walked 17 in only 39 IP.
http://perfectgame.org/stories/06_03_27_whos_hot/list.pdf (PDF file).
Hughes only walked like 8 his entire senior year. Is there something the scouts see in Tillman that project him to have good control at the professional level? The stats don't show it.
sugmasterflex
04-22-06, 10:22 PM
How the hell do you guys know so much about players in the upcoming draft...
Brewerfan.net
Perfectgame.org
A couple of helpful sites...
38Special
04-22-06, 10:38 PM
According to the PG Hot List, as of 4/10 Tillman has walked 17 in only 39 IP.
http://perfectgame.org/stories/06_03_27_whos_hot/list.pdf (PDF file).
Hughes only walked like 8 his entire senior year. Is there something the scouts see in Tillman that project him to have good control at the professional level? The stats don't show it.
Great find. That's horrific control for a HS pitcher
38Special
04-22-06, 10:44 PM
For all the holes in Cody Johnson's swing, that list doesnt seem to indicate it, saying...: "Continues his hot hitting and is now hitting .500 (29-58) with 13 HR, 6 doubles, 38 RBI, 40 R, 24 BB, 7 K, and 10 SB."
As I said, Adam Dunn but a better athlete
38Special
04-22-06, 10:48 PM
So according to Callis' list of the top 20 draft prospects, these are the top prep guys
8. Clayton Kershaw, lhp, Highland Park HS (Dallas)
Top high school prospect after entering year as projected second- or third-rounder
10. Kyle Drabek, rhp, The Woodlands (Texas) HS
Could be first prep middle infielder taken
16. Chris Tillman, rhp, Fountain Valley (Calif.) HS
Classic high school projectable pitcher at 6-foot-7 and 185 pounds
18. Chris Marrero, 3b, Monsignor Pace HS (Opa Locka, Fla.)
Best high school position player has impressive tools but hasn't performed up to expectations
Kershaw's listing in that PDF says:
Continues to show why he is one of the top pitchers in Texas, and the country. He is now 7-0 with a 0.55 ERA. After 38 IP he has 88 K while allowing only 11 hits and 20 BB.
20 walks in 38 IP?
For all the holes in Cody Johnson's swing, that list doesnt seem to indicate it, saying...: "Continues his hot hitting and is now hitting .500 (29-58) with 13 HR, 6 doubles, 38 RBI, 40 R, 24 BB, 7 K, and 10 SB."
As I said, Adam Dunn but a better athlete
If he keeps it up, I doubt he will fall to 21st. He is the best HS power hitting prospect and there is lack of top hitting prospects in this year draft. But I will take him definitely if he falls to us.
sugmasterflex
04-22-06, 11:23 PM
So according to Callis' list of the top 20 draft prospects, these are the top prep guys
8. Clayton Kershaw, lhp, Highland Park HS (Dallas)
Top high school prospect after entering year as projected second- or third-rounder
10. Kyle Drabek, rhp, The Woodlands (Texas) HS
Could be first prep middle infielder taken
16. Chris Tillman, rhp, Fountain Valley (Calif.) HS
Classic high school projectable pitcher at 6-foot-7 and 185 pounds
18. Chris Marrero, 3b, Monsignor Pace HS (Opa Locka, Fla.)
Best high school position player has impressive tools but hasn't performed up to expectations
Kershaw's listing in that PDF says:
20 walks in 38 IP?
With those walks Kershaw will get eaten alive at the pro level. Again, no one really looks at the stats at the HS level, generally speaking. But at the same time, how do you not look at the walk totals. It's WALKS, how do you walk so many people at the amateur level and still be considered to go high in the 1st round?
Jeremy Jeffress
He is 2-0 in the early spring with a fastball in the low 90s and showing a good curveball. He is getting heavy scout traffic and holding his status as a potential first round pick.
93 in the cold weather-will heat up as the weather gets warmer.
And this was back in March when it still felt like winter here in VA. I'd really like this kid, maybe at 40?
Torre Langley, another kid I like
He continues his hot hitting. Now hitting .640 with 11 HR, 34 RBI, 7 doubles, 2 triples, 11 BB, and only 2 SO. On the mound he has 4 saves in 5 2/3 IP while
striking out 12.
Thought of by many scouts as the top defensive HS catcher in the '06 draft. However, he is showing he can get the job done with the bat as well. Langley is hitting .618 (21-34) with 7 HR, 6 doubles, 1 triple, 7 R, and 23 RBI.
38Special
04-23-06, 10:04 AM
I like Langley as well. We need to take a catcher of some kind in this draft, and one named after the Yankee manager seems like a good idea :)
Iknowcool
04-23-06, 04:41 PM
Luke Hochevar?.........2nd round?
Kulish29
04-23-06, 04:49 PM
Luke Hochevar?.........2nd round?
We dont have a 2nd rounder. We do have a supp round pick. I'd love to take him there.
Kulish29
04-23-06, 04:57 PM
Anyone think Langley lasts to the Yankees pick in the 3rd or 4th?
jareddudleyfanclub
04-23-06, 05:33 PM
What is the deal with Hovechar?
Kulish29
04-23-06, 06:12 PM
What is the deal with Hovechar?
He's more than likely not going to sign with LA and re-enter the draft.
yank4life2005
04-23-06, 06:16 PM
He's more than likely not going to sign with LA and re-enter the draft.
He'll sign with the Dodgers. This is a tactic that Scott Boras uses and we will see who blinks firs either the Dodgers or Boras.
Kulish29
04-23-06, 06:23 PM
He'll sign with the Dodgers. This is a tactic that Scott Boras uses and we will see who blinks firs either the Dodgers or Boras.
Q: Josh from Kansas City asks:
Any word on Luke Hochevar?
A: Matt Meyers: From what I gather, he is not going to sign with the Dodgers so he is preparing to go back into the 2006 draft. Because this draft is considered so weak, it seems like a good year for him to be doing it. That worked out well for him and his agent, the loveable Scott Boras
Things have gone pretty bad between the Dodgers and Hochevar. I doubt he signs.
sugmasterflex
04-23-06, 06:56 PM
I like Langley as well. We need to take a catcher of some kind in this draft, and one named after the Yankee manager seems like a good idea :)
We don't need to take a catcher. The GCL Yanks will probably have both Jose Sanchez and Gerardo Rodriguez listed at catcher.
38Special
04-23-06, 07:06 PM
We don't need to take a catcher. The GCL Yanks will probably have both Jose Sanchez and Gerardo Rodriguez listed at catcher.
So the Geraldo Rodriguez that struck out 30% of the time in the DSL last season and the Jose Sanchez who at best has Irwil Rojas upside are going to keep us from drafting a big catcher prospect?
sugmasterflex
04-23-06, 07:16 PM
So the Geraldo Rodriguez that struck out 30% of the time in the DSL last season and the Jose Sanchez who at best has Irwil Rojas upside are going to keep us from drafting a big catcher prospect?
Don't put too much stock in DSL stats. Eduardo Nunez hit something like .230 in the DSL. Carlos Rios was raving about Sanchez.
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