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JfromJersey
06-14-05, 11:30 AM
Now THAT looks like a movie to see.
DaBomber25
06-14-05, 11:31 AM
My friends saw an advanced screening about a week ago and loved it. One of them works at IMAX and got to see it there as well and said that IMAX made it even better.
RhodyYanksFan
06-14-05, 11:35 AM
My friends saw an advanced screening about a week ago and loved it. One of them works at IMAX and got to see it there as well and said that IMAX made it even better.
I'm weary about going to see anything in IMAX since they always seem to edit it from the original film. IMAX projectors can only hold 2 hours worth of film so unless the movie is short, you miss out on stuff. If I like it enough after seeing it in the theater, then I'll go back for the IMAX.
Evil Empire
06-14-05, 11:51 AM
It looks alright.
No one can beat Michael Keaton, Val Kilmer, or George Clooney in Batman movies. ;)
Seriously though, I thought Keaton was the best.
JfromJersey
06-14-05, 12:30 PM
It looks alright.
No one can beat Michael Keaton, Val Kilmer, or George Clooney in Batman movies. ;)
Seriously though, I thought Keaton was the best.
From what I'm reading, Bale is the best BM yet. The movie has gotten lots of positive reviews so far. It also doesn't look like a movie for the kiddies.
Hitman23
06-14-05, 01:19 PM
I am psyched for this movie. It looks incredible. From what I hear it goes with the story too. Not the liberties that shmuckface took in the other ones.
You ever dance with the devil by the pail moonlight? :barf:
Howard Stern was talking about it this morning, said it was a great movie but Katie Holmes was horrible in it
Seeing it tomorrow. Then going to the Yankees Pirates game. Yay for me.
Archer1979
06-14-05, 01:38 PM
Does Frank Miller get any of the credit for this picture?
DkNNy79
06-14-05, 03:59 PM
It looks alright.
No one can beat Michael Keaton, Val Kilmer, or George Clooney in Batman movies. ;)
Seriously though, I thought Keaton was the best.
I can't wait to see this movie.
Keaton was my favorite as well.
chelloveck
06-14-05, 05:47 PM
That guy playing Batman doesnt look like a likeable guy.
I am psyched for this movie. It looks incredible. From what I hear it goes with the story too. Not the liberties that shmuckface took in the other ones.
You ever dance with the devil by the pail moonlight? :barf:
:roflmao:
Are you as big of a Batman geek as you are a Star Wars geek? Or is that even possible?
Archer1979
06-14-05, 08:20 PM
:roflmao:
Are you as big of a Batman geek as you are a Star Wars geek? Or is that even possible?
I will out-geek anyone on Batman on the board.
:cues Clint Eastwood music:
Evil Empire
06-14-05, 08:23 PM
I will out-geek anyone on Batman on the board.
:cues Clint Eastwood music:
Alrite...What's Alfred's last name?
I will out-geek anyone on Batman on the board.
:cues Clint Eastwood music:
Yes, but how are you with homophones? ;)
Evil Empire
06-14-05, 08:24 PM
Yes, but how are you with homophones? ;)
Their is wear he has a problem.
Archer1979
06-14-05, 08:26 PM
Alrite...What's Alfred's last name?
Pennyworth.
Archer1979
06-14-05, 08:27 PM
Yes, but how are you with homophones? ;)
What dey do in da privacy of der own home is der bidness.
Evil Empire
06-14-05, 08:28 PM
Pennyworth.
Heh...Damn. I didn't think he had a last name...:lol:;)
Archer1979
06-14-05, 08:29 PM
Heh...Damn. I didn't think he had a last name...:lol:;)
You a lightweight.
Bring me some real questions!!!
Evil Empire
06-14-05, 08:33 PM
You a lightweight.
Bring me some real questions!!!
How much cooler is Superman to Batman?
A. 10 Times
B. 100 times
C. 1000 Times
D. Infinity times
E. All of the Above
jdolbow
06-14-05, 08:35 PM
Howard Stern was talking about it this morning, said it was a great movie but Katie Holmes was horrible in it
Well, Stern has something against Scientologists. Can't say that I blame him. seeing as how Cruise appears to be a complete NUT JOB.
Evil Empire
06-14-05, 08:37 PM
You a lightweight.
Bring me some real questions!!!
Alright:
What were the names of Bruce Wayne's parents?
What was Bat-hound's name?
Archer1979
06-14-05, 08:38 PM
Alright:
What were the names of Bruce Wayne's parents?
What was Bat-hound's name?
Dr. Thomas and Martha Wayne.
Ace the Bat-Hound.
I haven't even broken a sweat.
Alright:
What were the names of Bruce Wayne's parents?
Mr. and Mrs. Wayne.
Evil Empire
06-14-05, 08:39 PM
What super villain once broke Batman's back, leaving him crippled and wheelchair-bound?
Archer1979
06-14-05, 08:40 PM
What super villain once broke Batman's back, leaving him crippled and wheelchair-bound?
Bane in the Knightfall arc.
Evil Empire
06-14-05, 08:42 PM
Damn archer....
What's Robin's real name, and what happened to his parents?
backstop20
06-14-05, 08:42 PM
What was Alfred's original last name?
Archer1979
06-14-05, 08:46 PM
Damn archer....
What's Robin's real name, and what happened to his parents?
1st - Dick Grayson, parents killed by Boss Zucco during a trapeze act in a protection scam.
2nd - Jason Todd, parents killed by Killer Croc
3rd - Tim Drake, mother killed by Two-Face, father by Captain Boomerang
4th - Stephanie Brown, father was Cluemaster, killed in a Suicide Squad mission, mother still alive.
Stephanie Brown is dead.
Jason Todd, thought dead, is now alive, terrorizing Gotham's underworld.
Archer1979
06-14-05, 08:47 PM
What was Alfred's original last name?
Ooooh. I may have to look that one up. Can I?
Evil Empire
06-14-05, 08:50 PM
Wait...Robin was a girl? What's with Stephanie Brown?
I think the most common name he's had was Dick Grayson, but I'm not sure. I can say that's how I knew him.
Archer1979
06-14-05, 08:51 PM
Wait...Robin was a girl? What's with Stephanie Brown?
I think the most common name he's had was Dick Grayson, but I'm not sure. I can say that's how I knew him.
The character has been around since 1940.
Evil Empire
06-14-05, 08:52 PM
The character has been around since 1940.
Huh?!?!?
edit: NVM
RSoxHater
06-14-05, 09:07 PM
I'm weary about going to see anything in IMAX since they always seem to edit it from the original film. IMAX projectors can only hold 2 hours worth of film so unless the movie is short, you miss out on stuff. If I like it enough after seeing it in the theater, then I'll go back for the IMAX.
Don't know about the length issue, but for sure it screws with the original aspect ration, due to the shape of the IMAX screen.
RSoxHater
06-14-05, 09:08 PM
That guy playing Batman doesnt look like a likeable guy.
Bale is incredible in every role I have seen him. I also don't think they are going for a likeable batman, but rather the Dark Knight Frank Miller batman.
RSoxHater
06-14-05, 09:14 PM
You a lightweight.
Bring me some real questions!!!
Okay tough guy. In the DC-Dark Horse Crossover Batman vs. Predator, how does Batman defeat Predator(the first crossover)?
Evil Empire
06-14-05, 09:15 PM
Oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Them's fightin words Archer ;)
backstop20
06-14-05, 09:18 PM
Ooooh. I may have to look that one up. Can I?
http://www.usefultrivia.com/comic_book_trivia/batman_trivia_index.html
Evil Empire
06-14-05, 09:20 PM
http://www.usefultrivia.com/comic_book_trivia/batman_trivia_index.html
That's where I got's me questions as well ;) :D
Archer1979
06-14-05, 10:12 PM
Okay tough guy. In the DC-Dark Horse Crossover Batman vs. Predator, how does Batman defeat Predator(the first crossover)?
Crap. I'm going to have to dig in the cellar for that one.
Archer1979
06-14-05, 10:13 PM
What was Alfred's original last name?
Beagle. And he was a fat guy.
BronxByTheBay
06-14-05, 10:35 PM
If any of you east coasters are going to a midnight screening tonight, feel free to post a (non-spoiler) review.
RhodyYanksFan
06-15-05, 07:38 AM
:roflmao:
Are you as big of a Batman geek as you are a Star Wars geek? Or is that even possible?
I may be...I love Batman. He kicks Superman's ass.
RhodyYanksFan
06-15-05, 08:13 AM
1st - Dick Grayson, parents killed by Boss Zucco during a trapeze act in a protection scam.
2nd - Jason Todd, parents killed by Killer Croc
3rd - Tim Drake, mother killed by Two-Face, father by Captain Boomerang
4th - Stephanie Brown, father was Cluemaster, killed in a Suicide Squad mission, mother still alive.
Stephanie Brown is dead.
Jason Todd, thought dead, is now alive, terrorizing Gotham's underworld.
When did they bring Jason Todd back from the dead? I have the series where he's blown up by the Joker.
Archer1979
06-15-05, 08:19 AM
When did they bring Jason Todd back from the dead? I have the series where he's blown up by the Joker.
It's happening right now in the current Batman's!!! Great story. He beat the crap out of the Joker with a crowbar two issues ago. All the while saying, "How do you like that?", "How's that feel?".
RhodyYanksFan
06-15-05, 08:32 AM
It's happening right now in the current Batman's!!! Great story. He beat the crap out of the Joker with a crowbar two issues ago. All the while saying, "How do you like that?", "How's that feel?".
Awesome! Payback's a bitch Joker :)
BronxByTheBay
06-15-05, 08:41 AM
It's happening right now in the current Batman's!!! Great story. He beat the crap out of the Joker with a crowbar two issues ago. All the while saying, "How do you like that?", "How's that feel?".
Wow. So they're still writing "Joker kills someone Batman cares about, Batman goes apesh*t on the Joker" stories.
RhodyYanksFan
06-15-05, 08:52 AM
Wow. So they're still writing "Joker kills someone Batman cares about, Batman goes apesh*t on the Joker" stories.
Actually this is a former Robin going apesh*t on the Joker for killing his mom and almost killing him.
Archer1979
06-15-05, 08:55 AM
Actually this is a former Robin going apesh*t on the Joker for killing his mom and almost killing him.
Then he takes over Joker's former identity of the Red Hood and starts going extreme on the bad guys. It's a great read.
Archer1979
06-15-05, 08:59 AM
By the way, if anyone does see this, could you let me know if it's safe for 7 year-olds. Thanks.
BronxByTheBay
06-15-05, 09:03 AM
Actually this is a former Robin going apesh*t on the Joker for killing his mom and almost killing him.
Oohhhh. I didn't get that. Why doesn't someone just kill the f*cker already? It's not like death means anything in comic books.
Archer1979
06-15-05, 09:04 AM
Oohhhh. I didn't get that. Why doesn't someone just kill the f*cker already? It's not like death means anything in comic books.
You mean Mickey writes comic books too?
YankeePride1967
06-15-05, 09:04 AM
I liked the last Batman series, but this one I'll see without much anticipation.
BronxByTheBay
06-15-05, 09:12 AM
You mean Mickey writes comic books too?
:roflmao:
RhodyYanksFan
06-15-05, 09:19 AM
I liked the last Batman series, but this one I'll see without much anticipation.
So you're the one!
YankeeFan1
06-15-05, 09:22 AM
I can't wait to see it. The reviews have been great and Christian Bale is a very good actor.
RhodyYanksFan
06-15-05, 09:26 AM
I can't wait to see it. The reviews have been great and Christian Bale is a very good actor.
As is Michael Caine, Gary Oldman, Ken Watanabe and Morgan Freeman. I'll see this Friday.
WashingtonYankee
06-15-05, 12:46 PM
I'm going to try and see it tonight
You mean Mickey writes comic books too?
You're relentless. :P
I can't wait to see it. The reviews have been great and Christian Bale is a very good actor.
The only reason I have any interest in the movie is because of Christian Bale.
RhodyYanksFan
06-15-05, 02:33 PM
The only reason I have any interest in the movie is because of Christian Bale.
The villian is played by Ken Watanabe who was outstanding in The Last Samaurai.
BronxByTheBay
06-15-05, 02:40 PM
The villian is played by Ken Watanabe who was outstanding in The Last Samaurai.
Don't forget Cillian Murphy as "the Scarecrow". This has to be the single best cast comic book film in history.
nhyankeefan
06-15-05, 04:11 PM
I just saw the movie, it was awesome. Definitely one of the best I've seen in a long time. The 2+ hours seemed to fly by. And it sets up the next one well too.
yankeeschic12324
06-15-05, 04:18 PM
It looks alright.
No one can beat Michael Keaton, Val Kilmer, or George Clooney in Batman movies. ;)
Seriously though, I thought Keaton was the best.
I miss Val Kilmir as batman!
yankeeschic12324
06-15-05, 04:19 PM
I'm hoping to go see this one soon. I've heard a lot of good for this movie.
YankeeFan1
06-15-05, 05:03 PM
As is Michael Caine, Gary Oldman, Ken Watanabe and Morgan Freeman. I'll see this Friday. Great cast including Cillian Murphy. Lots of talent there. This movie will be stunning. I can't wait it on Saturday.
Hitman23
06-16-05, 08:03 AM
Are you as big of a Batman geek as you are a Star Wars geek? Or is that even possible?No not at all. Not even close.
Thundercats however..... :lol: (j/k)
Evil Empire
06-16-05, 12:09 PM
I may be...I love Batman. He kicks Superman's ass.
:eek: :eek: :mad: :enraged: Them's fightin words Rhody...
No not at all. Not even close.
Thundercats however..... :lol: (j/k)
What's a Thundercat?
Should I be afraid of this answer?
Hitman23
06-16-05, 12:14 PM
What's a Thundercat?It was a cartoon that was on when I was a kid. I used to be addicted to Transformers, Voltron, Thundercats, GI Joe and He Man.
RhodyYanksFan
06-16-05, 12:19 PM
:eek: :eek: :mad: :enraged: Them's fightin words Rhody...
Batman is smarter, has cooler enemies, and is more realistic. Plus he isn't hurt by being around rocks.
BronxByTheBay
06-16-05, 12:23 PM
Batman is smarter, has cooler enemies, and is more realistic. Plus he isn't hurt by being around rocks.
But he can be hurt if you throw a rock at him.
The film was GREAT. I wouldn't even qualify my comments by saying it's the best in the genre - it's just a fantastic film, period.
Bale is THE MAN.
WashingtonYankee
06-16-05, 01:56 PM
WOW. All I can say is WOW. Great movie.
Evil Empire
06-16-05, 02:05 PM
Batman is smarter, has cooler enemies, and is more realistic. Plus he isn't hurt by being around rocks.
Superman has super logic and wit. It's far superior to any human. Lex Luthor would kick any of the corny Batman villains. And sure Batman isn't hurt by kryptonite, but he can just slip in the shower and die.
I'll give you the realism, because Superman's an alien.
Archer1979
06-16-05, 02:11 PM
Superman has super logic and wit. It's far superior to any human. Lex Luthor would kick any of the corny Batman villains. And sure Batman isn't hurt by kryptonite, but he can just slip in the shower and die.
I'll give you the realism, because Superman's an alien.
Superman's a dick. Go to the bottom of the page...
http://www.nationallampoon.com/supermanisadick/002.asp
RhodyYanksFan
06-16-05, 02:34 PM
Superman has super logic and wit. It's far superior to any human. Lex Luthor would kick any of the corny Batman villains. And sure Batman isn't hurt by kryptonite, but he can just slip in the shower and die.
I'll give you the realism, because Superman's an alien.
Superman is reactionary. He just reacts to his enemies movement. Batman is 2-3 steps ahead of his attacker. He is proactive in his fighting.
Superman's a dick. Got to the bottom of the page...
http://www.nationallampoon.com/supermanisadick/002.asp
:roflmao: That's too funny!
Darth_Takeo
06-16-05, 02:55 PM
www.superdickery.com
:roflmao:
My friend who saw 'Begins' ranked it 3rd best. #1 being 'Batman' and #2 'Batman Returns'
I've yet to see it but that's all I know so far.
RhodyYanksFan
06-16-05, 03:01 PM
www.superdickery.com
:roflmao:
My friend who saw 'Begins' ranked it 3rd best. #1 being 'Batman' and #2 'Batman Returns'
I've yet to see it but that's all I know so far.
I may be naive, but are these real covers or photoshopped?
Darth_Takeo
06-16-05, 03:19 PM
I may be naive, but are these real covers or photoshopped?
http://www.superdickery.com/faq.html
Q: Are these real?
A: Yep, they're all authentic and unaltered. They appear to you today exactly as they did the day they were first published.
Except that whole appearing on a computer screen part..
Darth_Takeo
06-16-05, 03:25 PM
Out of curiousity, I decided to research one:
http://www.superdickery.com/dick/98.html
Found it as it is pictured:
http://pages.metropoliscomics.com/cgi-bin/item.fcgi?itemKey=1922248925&store=%2Fstores%2Fmetropolis&catId=j
I've only verified the one but I'd guess they're unaltered...
Archer1979
06-16-05, 03:27 PM
I may be naive, but are these real covers or photoshopped?
They're real.
RhodyYanksFan
06-16-05, 03:31 PM
http://www.superdickery.com/faq.html
That makes it 10x better :lol:
Boogiedown Bomber
06-16-05, 04:36 PM
Someone told me that "Batman Begins" goes back to the Tim Burton/Michael Keaton style of Batman instead of the George Clooney/Val Kilmer movies. Is this true, b/c if it is, then I'm hitting the cinemas this week.
BronxByTheBay
06-16-05, 05:03 PM
Someone told me that "Batman Begins" goes back to the Tim Burton/Michael Keaton style of Batman instead of the George Clooney/Val Kilmer movies. Is this true, b/c if it is, then I'm hitting the cinemas this week.
Better than all of that. No camp whatsoever, but it does have a sense of humor.
It's more out of the recent Marvel style films.
sugmasterflex
06-16-05, 09:01 PM
Superman is reactionary. He just reacts to his enemies movement. Batman is 2-3 steps ahead of his attacker. He is proactive in his fighting.
Superman is reactionary b/c he's powerful enough to have that luxury. If Batman's not ahead of his enemies, he dies.
Evil Empire
06-16-05, 09:03 PM
Superman is reactionary b/c he's powerful enough to have that luxury. If Batman's not ahead of his enemies, he dies.
Yup yup.
If you squared them off against each other in neutral territory, Superman would win.
IntangiblesRule
06-17-05, 02:24 AM
Batman Begins was excellent. Bale was tremendous as both tormented Bruce Wayne and billionaire a-hole Bruce Wayne.
I'd put it right up there with the Keaton/Nicholson version of Batman. Great movie.
jlw1980
06-17-05, 03:39 AM
It was a cartoon that was on when I was a kid. I used to be addicted to Transformers, Voltron, Thundercats, GI Joe and He Man.
I've never heard of Thundercats, but I loved He-Man! Skeletor ruled, man. :lol: Transformers was OK, too. Other than He-Man, I liked his co-hort, Shera: Princess of Power! It was all about the girl-power. :D The other ones I loved were Smurfs, Care Bears, Rainbow Brite, etc. Girly stuff. :)
Getting back to the topic at hand, I cannot wait to see this movie. It looks damned cool. :rockin:
Oh, and did I mention that Christian Bale is SMOKIN'?! :drool: :2thumbs: :gulp: :cool:
ruthianblast
06-17-05, 05:09 AM
Saw it last night, imo the best Batman flick ever. The only issue I had was how dumb Katie Holmes' character was, I'm not sure if it was her fault in being a bad actress or the way that her character was written that made her suck. The villain was great, the screenplay was well-written and adapted to screen. Bale is Batman, screw Keaton. There were a few things I didn't like, the bat-tank is a little much, also the way the main crisis of the movie was never really resolved I mean how did all the people return to normal? They never really answer that question, did they all die, WTF? Anyways, other than that it ruled, I'll likely see it again.
BronxByTheBay
06-17-05, 08:58 AM
Batman Begins was excellent. Bale was tremendous as both tormented Bruce Wayne and billionaire a-hole Bruce Wayne.
I'd put it right up there with the Keaton/Nicholson version of Batman. Great movie.
I loved Burton's BATMAN, but I"d have to slot this one ahead of it. Chris Nolan is a much better storyteller than Tim Burton.
IntangiblesRule
06-17-05, 09:00 AM
I loved Burton's BATMAN, but I"d have to slot this one ahead of it. Chris Nolan is a much better storyteller than Tim Burton.
The Burton Batman is all about Jack as The Joker. I thought he was unbelievable in that role, it made it an awesome movie.
Bale is the best of the Batmans though, This was a great movie. I'm actually tempted to see it again and I hardly ever go see movies twice in the theatre.
Hitman23
06-17-05, 09:10 AM
The Burton Batman is all about Jack as The Joker. I thought he was unbelievable in that role, it made it an awesome movie.agreed. if it wasn't for him the movie would have sucked.
BronxByTheBay
06-17-05, 09:11 AM
The Burton Batman is all about Jack as The Joker. I thought he was unbelievable in that role, it made it an awesome movie.
Bale is the best of the Batmans though, This was a great movie. I'm actually tempted to see it again and I hardly ever go see movies twice in the theatre.
Same here. I think I may have to go again Sunday.
I know fanboys were angry over Nicholson's Joker, but I thought he was great. That character scared the crap out of me the first time I saw the movie.
The problem with Burton's BATMAN movies is they were awful the moment the "action/adventure" portions kicked in. Burton can't direct action to save his life.
IntangiblesRule
06-17-05, 09:12 AM
agreed. if it wasn't for him the movie would have sucked.
I feel bad for whoever plays the Joker in the next Batman movie in this series. Huge shoes to fill.
Hitman23
06-17-05, 09:13 AM
I feel bad for whoever plays the Joker in the next Batman movie in this series. Huge shoes to fill.In all honesty it would be unfair to even try to compare them. i won't.
IMO, Burton's rendition was way off and has nothing to do with the real story. I won't compare this to the others in any way. Entirely new to me.
BronxByTheBay
06-17-05, 09:16 AM
I feel bad for whoever plays the Joker in the next Batman movie in this series. Huge shoes to fill.
That I disagree with. Nolan is going to get a legit actor, not a "special effects" personality (a Nicholson-type would look stupid in one of these films now).
It's almost a shame Gary Oldman was cast as Gordon. He'd make a fantastic Joker.
IntangiblesRule
06-17-05, 09:17 AM
In all honesty it would be unfair to even try to compare them. i won't.
IMO, Burton's rendition was way off and has nothing to do with the real story. I won't compare this to the others in any way. Entirely new to me.
Even though this movie is closer to the real Batman story, it is inevitable that there will be comparisons to the performance. It is only natural when two guys play the same character.
As long as whoever it is doesn't try and do an impression of Jack I think he'll be fine.
Archer1979
06-17-05, 09:19 AM
Even though this movie is closer to the real Batman story, it is inevitable that there will be comparisons to the performance. It is only natural when two guys play the same character.
As long as whoever it is doesn't try and do an impression of Jack I think he'll be fine.
I actually liked Batman Returns better than the first one.
MEOW!
IntangiblesRule
06-17-05, 09:19 AM
That I disagree with. Nolan is going to get a legit actor, not a "special effects" personality (a Nicholson-type would look stupid in one of these films now).
It's almost a shame Gary Oldman was cast as Gordon. He'd make a fantastic Joker.
Considering the Joker is an insane, homicidal, genocidal maniac I'd expect him to have a bit of an out there personality.
Oldman does play a great psycho...then again he really is a psycho.
Crispin Glover would be a good Joker too.
Archer1979
06-17-05, 09:20 AM
Considering the Joker is an insane, homicidal, genocidal maniac I'd expect him to have a bit of an out there personality.
Oldman does play a great psycho...then again he really is a psycho.
Crispin Glover would be a good Joker too.
Steve Buscemi.
BronxByTheBay
06-17-05, 09:23 AM
Considering the Joker is an insane, homicidal, genocidal maniac I'd expect him to have a bit of an out there personality.
Oldman does play a great psycho...then again he really is a psycho.
Crispin Glover would be a good Joker too.
Yeah, people are already pushing for Glover. He's more weird-crazy than psycho-crazy, though. I can't see the guy in the film only because he'd be acting for whatever film is running through his head.
How about Edward Norton? I can even see Nolan dipping back into a previous well and casting Robin Williams. If this were Schumacher, Williams would be a horrible choice because it would just be a stand up routine with makeup on. Under Nolan's direction, a Williams as the Joker scenerio could be great.
Archer1979
06-17-05, 09:24 AM
John Malkovich.
IntangiblesRule
06-17-05, 09:25 AM
Yeah, people are already pushing for Glover. He's more weird-crazy than psycho-crazy, though. I can't see the guy in the film only because he'd be acting for whatever film is running through his head.
How about Edward Norton? I can even see Nolan dipping back into a previous well and casting Robin Williams. If this were Schumacher, Williams would be a horrible choice because it would just be a stand up routine with makeup on. Under Nolan's direction, a Williams as the Joker scenerio could be great.
Williams was great as the crazy killer in Insomnia. So that might work.
IntangiblesRule
06-17-05, 09:26 AM
John Malkovich.
Anybody remember John Lithgow playing the nutjob killer in one of Denzel's movies?
He was great in that role.
Archer1979
06-17-05, 09:27 AM
Anybody remember John Lithgow playing the nutjob killer in one of Denzel's movies?
He was great in that role.
Lithgow's too fat.
Joker's a skinny guy.
IntangiblesRule
06-17-05, 09:28 AM
Lithgow's too fat.
Joker's a skinny guy.
Actors lose weight for cherry roles all the time, it is the wonder of having a personal dietician to prepare you for any role.
Archer1979
06-17-05, 09:29 AM
Actors lose weight for cherry roles all the time, it is the wonder of having a personal dietician to prepare you for any role.
He can't lose that much.
Nicholson was too big for that role, although facially he was perfect.
I was going to say Christian Slater, but he's already gravy trained enough off of Jack.
Hitman23
06-17-05, 09:30 AM
Edward Norton
Steve Buscemi.
I was going to suggest both of these guys. Either one would be perfect.
IntangiblesRule
06-17-05, 09:30 AM
He can't lose that much.
Nicholson was too big for that role, although facially he was perfect.
I was going to say Christian Slater, but he's already gravy trained enough off of Jack.
Slater is a very bad actor...VERY BAD.
He hit his peak in Heathers.
Archer1979
06-17-05, 09:31 AM
Slater is a very bad actor...VERY BAD.
He hit his peak in Heathers.
He impersonated Jack in Heathers. He should mail residuals to Jack for his performance in Heathers.
IntangiblesRule
06-17-05, 09:34 AM
He impersonated Jack in Heathers. He should mail residuals to Jack for his performance in Heathers.
He impersonates Jack when he does real life interviews too.
I was going to suggest Mel as the Joker, but if the movie stunk everybody would blame him for screwing up Bale...
BronxByTheBay
06-17-05, 09:35 AM
He impersonated Jack in Heathers. He should mail residuals to Jack for his performance in Heathers.
Slater? Jesus, Arch. That would be so awful it would threaten to rip a hole in the time/space continuum. And I don't even know what that is.
Lithgow is too "over". I don't think they'll cast a huge name, but they're not going to go with a reclaimation project either. It's Warner Brothers, not the Red Sox. :D
Archer1979
06-17-05, 09:35 AM
He impersonates Jack when he does real life interviews too.
I was going to suggest Mel as the Joker, but if the movie stunk everybody would blame him for screwing up Bale...
Mel Gibson?
IntangiblesRule
06-17-05, 09:36 AM
Mel Gibson?
Stottlemyer... :P
Archer1979
06-17-05, 09:36 AM
Slater? Jesus, Arch. That would be so awful it would threaten to rip a hole in the time/space continuum. And I don't even know what that is.
Lithgow is too "over". I don't think they'll cast a huge name, but they're not going to go with a reclaimation project either. It's Warner Brothers, not the Red Sox. :D
I'm going back to either Steve Buscemi or John Malkovich. Both would an outstanding job!
RhodyYanksFan
06-17-05, 09:55 AM
Yup yup.
If you squared them off against each other in neutral territory, Superman would win.
Obviously, since Batman just about broke his hand when he punched Superman in the face after Robin died. He's still cooler then Superman though.
I feel bad for whoever plays the Joker in the next Batman movie in this series. Huge shoes to fill.
I remember reading that one of the early drafts for this movie had Jeff Goldblum as the Scarecrow and Jack Nicholson back as the Joker. Scarecrow would make Batman hallucinate and think the Joker didn't die and that would be a sideplot throughout the movie. That would have kicked ass, but I'm sure they did a good job with this script, as everyone has said.
Hitman23
06-17-05, 09:56 AM
John Malkovichas Joker? hmmmm.... interesting.
You know Jim Carey is probably the ultimate choice for Riddler. If thius becomes any sort of series, and the Riddler becomes a part of it, Carey should do another performance. He is perfect.
RhodyYanksFan
06-17-05, 10:01 AM
as Joker? hmmmm.... interesting.
You know Jim Carey is probably the ultimate choice for Riddler. If thius becomes any sort of series, and the Riddler becomes a part of it, Carey should do another performance. He is perfect.
I agree, he really did fit the character perfectly. It was good until they had that stuipid TV box plan. Tommy Lee Jones was too cartoony, I want to see a darker evil two-face. Maybe Russel Crowe or if they want to go older, Walken.
Archer1979
06-17-05, 10:02 AM
as Joker? hmmmm.... interesting.
You know Jim Carey is probably the ultimate choice for Riddler. If thius becomes any sort of series, and the Riddler becomes a part of it, Carey should do another performance. He is perfect.
That movie sucked big time. I'm willing to give Carrey another chance.
No way that they should have paired two villians up for that one.
They just threw too much into the last two movies in lieu of a decent plot.
Hitman23
06-17-05, 10:13 AM
I agree, he really did fit the character perfectly. It was good until they had that stuipid TV box plan. Tommy Lee Jones was too cartoony, I want to see a darker evil two-face. Maybe Russel Crowe or if they want to go older, Walken.I like Tommy Lee Jones alot. I didn't think he was all that bad for the role. Don't agree with Russel Crowe, but Christopher Walken without a doubt.
BronxByTheBay
06-17-05, 10:14 AM
as Joker? hmmmm.... interesting.
You know Jim Carey is probably the ultimate choice for Riddler. If thius becomes any sort of series, and the Riddler becomes a part of it, Carey should do another performance. He is perfect.
You're kidding, right? He was awful in an awful film playing that very role.
Hitman23
06-17-05, 10:15 AM
That movie sucked big time. I'm willing to give Carrey another chance.
No way that they should have paired two villians up for that one.
They just threw too much into the last two movies in lieu of a decent plot.I agree the movie was horrible. I'm not so upset about the two villains in one movie though. I liked in the show when they had more then one.
The only thing I don't like is the killing off of the villains in the series. Joker dying was the worst. Robin had alot of dealings with the Joker and I never saw him getting ressurected. If he had planned on extending the series at all when the first came out killing Joker was the worst move. Whether you talk about the series or the tv show, even though Batman prevailed, the bad guys always got away. That should have stayed contant.
Hitman23
06-17-05, 10:16 AM
You're kidding, right? He was awful in an awful film playing that very role.I'm not kidding at all. He is the only actor I could see playing him. He's crazy enough to duplicate the origional.
Archer1979
06-17-05, 10:17 AM
I agree the movie was horrible. I'm not so upset about the two villains in one movie though. I liked in the show when they had more then one.
The only thing I don't like is the killing off of the villains in the series. Joker dying was the worst. Robin had alot of dealings with the Joker and I never saw him getting ressurected. If he had planned on extending the series at all when the first came out killing Joker was the worst move. Whether you talk about the series or the tv show, even though Batman prevailed, the bad guys always got away. That should have stayed contant.
Every movie they just kept throwing in villians...
The last one was Poison Ivy, Mr. Freeze, Bane, with a side of Jason Woodrue.
Too much!
As far as killing off the villians, it's a movie based on a comic book. They're not really dead as long as we remember them.
Hitman23
06-17-05, 10:20 AM
Every movie they just kept throwing in villians...
The last one was Poison Ivy, Mr. Freeze, Bane, with a side of Jason Woodrue.
Too much!Arnold... LOL
That one was the worst out of them all.
As far as killing off the villians, it's a movie based on a comic book. They're not really dead as long as we remember them. Yeah but even in the comic book, the major bad guys got away. (I'm not a HUGe comic reader, I don't claim to know everything, but I am under that impression from what I remember when I did read them). I'm just saying he could have crippled him or send him into hiding, but killing him was dumb. yeah I remember Joker, but I also remember he died a stupid death and I'd never see him again in another sequel.
Archer1979
06-17-05, 10:23 AM
Arnold... LOL
That one was the worst out of them all.
Yeah but even in the comic book, the major bad guys got away. (I'm not a HUGe comic reader, I don't claim to know everything, but I am under that impression from what I remember when I did read them). I'm just saying he could have crippled him or send him into hiding, but killing him was dumb. yeah I remember Joker, but I also remember he died a stupid death and I'd never see him again in another sequel.
He fell off a cliff in his first appearance in Batman #1 in 1940. They're always killing him off. He's like Kenny.
The logistics of killing the villains off in the movie probably have more to do with generating fresh ideas for the new ones.
Plus, can you imagine what Jack would ask for a sequel?
btw The Riddler lived, he was just committed to Arkham Asylum at the end.
RhodyYanksFan
06-17-05, 10:41 AM
btw The Riddler lived, he was just committed to Arkham Asylum at the end.
The Joker had his own wingi n Arkham and always escaped. I wish they did that in the movies. The Joker is THE villian - Batman's arch-enemy. They didn't kill Lex Luthor in Superman did they? I hope Nolan brings him back.
Hitman23
06-17-05, 10:41 AM
He fell off a cliff in his first appearance in Batman #1 in 1940. They're always killing him off. He's like Kenny..really? :lol: is it a death like you assume he's dead because Batman walks away? Or is it a concrete fact that he dies?
The logistics of killing the villains off in the movie probably have more to do with generating fresh ideas for the new ones.
Plus, can you imagine what Jack would ask for a sequel?
btw The Riddler lived, he was just committed to Arkham Asylum at the end.Yeah Jack would be expensive, but his legacy as Joker would probably make the movie enough money to afford him.
I know the Riddler lived, I was just speaking about the ones that were actually killed off.
Hitman23
06-17-05, 10:42 AM
The Joker had his own wingi n Arkham and always escaped. I wish they did that in the movies. The Joker is THE villian - Batman's arch-enemy. They didn't kill Lex Luthor in Superman did they? I hope Nolan brings him back.exactly! I agree with every point here.
BronxByTheBay
06-17-05, 10:43 AM
I'm not kidding at all. He is the only actor I could see playing him. He's crazy enough to duplicate the origional.
Why? Because he's skinny and a comedian? If Marvel films have tought us anything, you go for the legit actor over the comic playing the villian. A comic playing the villian usually leads to camp.
Archer1979
06-17-05, 10:45 AM
The Joker had his own wingi n Arkham and always escaped. I wish they did that in the movies. The Joker is THE villian - Batman's arch-enemy. They didn't kill Lex Luthor in Superman did they? I hope Nolan brings him back.
He needs his 70's style purple spaceman suit.
really? :lol: is it a death like you assume he's dead because Batman walks away? Or is it a concrete fact that he dies?
He fell off a cliff! It wasn't ambiguous.
If I remember correctly, I think he showed up in another story at the end of the book. No explanation. He ended up in jail that time.
It was the 40's!
Hitman23
06-17-05, 10:47 AM
Why? Because he's skinny and a comedian?What? no..... he's just a crazy guy who can fit the role of an insane genius perfectly IMO. He's identical to The Riddler I remember in the tv series. I know you're probably a comic book guy, so however you view the Riddler may be different. I'm not a huge fan of comic books. I grew up on the series and that's what sticks to me.
Hitman23
06-17-05, 10:48 AM
He fell off a cliff! It wasn't ambiguous.Maybe there was a puddle at the bottom. :lol:
Archer1979
06-17-05, 10:52 AM
What? no..... he's just a crazy guy who can fit the role of an insane genius perfectly IMO. He's identical to The Riddler I remember in the tv series. I know you're probably a comic book guy, so however you view the Riddler may be different. I'm not a huge fan of comic books. I grew up on the series and that's what sticks to me.
They've recently changed him into a Marilyn Manson type in the comics. IT's a strange twist.
Maybe there was a puddle at the bottom. :lol:
HUGE FRIKKING ROCKS!!! I do something like that, my wife is cashing insurance checks.
Comics books, he crawls away and manages to start up a fully stocked lab in an abandoned warehouse.
Hitman23
06-17-05, 10:54 AM
They've recently changed him into a Marilyn Manson type in the comics. IT's a strange twist.Are you serious? SWEET!!! I can see that. I can see that very much.
Archer1979
06-17-05, 11:00 AM
Are you serious? SWEET!!! I can see that. I can see that very much.
They've been very creative in the way they bring the villians back lately.
Penguin is a crime lord that operates out of a bar/restaurant. Think like a mob king-pin who's a recurring character.
RhodyYanksFan
06-17-05, 11:11 AM
They've been very creative in the way they bring the villians back lately.
Penguin is a crime lord that operates out of a bar/restaurant. Think like a mob king-pin who's a recurring character.
That sounds cool. Is there a bunch of different Batman comics or just one? I know they have Superman, Adventures of Superman, Man of Steel, etc... do they do the same w/Batman? If so, what's the best?
Archer1979
06-17-05, 11:17 AM
That sounds cool. Is there a bunch of different Batman comics or just one? I know they have Superman, Adventures of Superman, Man of Steel, etc... do they do the same w/Batman? If so, what's the best?
There's Detective Comics, started in 1937, of which the name DC is derived. That's got a year-long story arc going on which is essentially "villianless" in that the major story is a child-selling ring.
Batman currently has the Jason Todd as the Red Hood storyline going.
Batman:Gotham Knights tends to focus on Batman and how he relates to his extended family.
Batman:Tales of the Dark Knight is basically an anthology book with stories that may or may not be in continuity.
For the kiddies, there's Batman Strikes! which is more or less a comic book based on the cartoon.
BronxByTheBay
06-17-05, 11:52 AM
What? no..... he's just a crazy guy who can fit the role of an insane genius perfectly IMO. He's identical to The Riddler I remember in the tv series. I know you're probably a comic book guy, so however you view the Riddler may be different. I'm not a huge fan of comic books. I grew up on the series and that's what sticks to me.
Ugh. No offense, but no wonder. That series is awful and one of the things I will always be grateful to Burton for was 86ing any reference to it in his films.
BronxByTheBay
06-17-05, 11:53 AM
There's Detective Comics, started in 1937, of which the name DC is derived. That's got a year-long story arc going on which is essentially "villianless" in that the major story is a child-selling ring.
Batman currently has the Jason Todd as the Red Hood storyline going.
Batman:Gotham Knights tends to focus on Batman and how he relates to his extended family.
Batman:Tales of the Dark Knight is basically an anthology book with stories that may or may not be in continuity.
For the kiddies, there's Batman Strikes! which is more or less a comic book based on the cartoon.
Arch, the new film has picqued my interest. Have they collected the "Bane breaks Batman's back" storyline into a volume that I can buy? I"ve always wanted to read those issues but I refused to get back into comics at the time. Still do, actually.
Archer1979
06-17-05, 11:55 AM
Arch, the new film has picqued my interest. Have they collected the "Bane breaks Batman's back" storyline into a volume that I can buy? I"ve always wanted to read those issues but I refused to get back into comics at the time. Still do, actually.
They did that years ago in four volumes. Look under KnightFall. That's what they named the set.
BronxByTheBay
06-17-05, 11:59 AM
They did that years ago in four volumes. Look under KnightFall. That's what they named the set.
"Years ago"? I didn't realize it was that old. Although didn't it happen around the time Superman was "killed"? Geez...that was a long time ago.
Hey, any ideas where I might find those volumes online? I searched around BArnes and Noble, but all I could find was the novelization.
Archer1979
06-17-05, 12:04 PM
"Years ago"? I didn't realize it was that old. Although didn't it happen around the time Superman was "killed"? Geez...that was a long time ago.
Hey, any ideas where I might find those volumes online? I searched around BArnes and Noble, but all I could find was the novelization.
I was just looking at Amazon. You might try EBay.
Yeah, it was about ten years ago. We had just bought the house.
Hitman23
06-17-05, 12:08 PM
Ugh. No offense, but no wonder. That series is awful and one of the things I will always be grateful to Burton for was 86ing any reference to it in his films.There were some angled camera shots if I remember plus there was that "Holy rusty metal Batman" comment. :lol:
BronxByTheBay
06-17-05, 12:10 PM
There were some angled camera shots if I remember plus there was that "Holy rusty metal Batman" comment. :lol:
How can you like the Adam West Batman yet bag on ewoks?
Archer1979
06-17-05, 12:10 PM
There were some angled camera shots if I remember plus there was that "Holy rusty metal Batman" comment. :lol:
That wasn't Burton. That was Schmacher.
I actually liked the old show. Camp has its place in society. Especially since the comics at the time were cheesier.
Hitman23
06-17-05, 12:11 PM
How can you like the Adam West Batman yet bag on ewoks?I didn't. But I loved the show. It's like loving Seinfeld and not liking Jerry.
Hitman23
06-17-05, 12:12 PM
That wasn't Burton. That was Schmacher.
I actually liked the old show. Camp has its place in society. Especially since the comics at the time were cheesier.oh.... I didn't know that about the director. Alright then.
yeah the show was great. It was a bit cheesey but I got used to it. Every other aspect was entertaining.
BronxByTheBay
06-17-05, 12:36 PM
They did that years ago in four volumes. Look under KnightFall. That's what they named the set.
I've located 3 volumes -
Batman: Knightfall, Vol. 1
Batman: Knightfall, Part Two: Who Rules the Night, Vol. 2
Batman: Nightfall: Knights End, Vol. 3
What's the fourth that I'm missing?
Archer1979
06-17-05, 12:39 PM
I've located 3 volumes -
Batman: Knightfall, Vol. 1
Batman: Knightfall, Part Two: Who Rules the Night, Vol. 2
Batman: Nightfall: Knights End, Vol. 3
What's the fourth that I'm missing?
I might be including the KnightQuest one. It's how he comes back.
BronxByTheBay
06-17-05, 12:48 PM
I might be including the KnightQuest one. It's how he comes back.
Isn't that what Volume 3 is covering:
ANNOTATION
The controversial Knightfall storyline reaches its stunning conclusion in this collected edition. Recovered from his injuries, Bruce Wayne discovers that his hand-picked replacement has transformed Batman from a symbol of justice to one of terror. But how can Batman, who wears the familiar cape and cowl, stop a new Batman who wears body armor and carries lethal weapons?
FROM THE PUBLISHER
First came the Fall, then came the Quest. Now...The Dark Knight reclaims the Mantle of the Bat in Knights End.
Or are you referring to this one perhaps:
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?userid=9b2DHveBqT&isbn=0553481878&itm=10
Archer1979
06-17-05, 12:51 PM
Isn't that what Volume 3 is covering:
ANNOTATION
The controversial Knightfall storyline reaches its stunning conclusion in this collected edition. Recovered from his injuries, Bruce Wayne discovers that his hand-picked replacement has transformed Batman from a symbol of justice to one of terror. But how can Batman, who wears the familiar cape and cowl, stop a new Batman who wears body armor and carries lethal weapons?
FROM THE PUBLISHER
First came the Fall, then came the Quest. Now...The Dark Knight reclaims the Mantle of the Bat in Knights End.
Or are you referring to this one perhaps:
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?userid=9b2DHveBqT&isbn=0553481878&itm=10
I don't actually have the compilations, so Amazon probably has better information than I.
Great series of books.
yeahimweird
06-17-05, 01:29 PM
I've heard a lot of good things about the new movie. I might go see it this weekend.
Christian Bale is one of my favorite actors, and I'm sure he kicks ass in this movie.
StantonFan
06-17-05, 01:46 PM
I might be including the KnightQuest one. It's how he comes back.
Knightquest was never collected: I think there were too many books to include in it. All you really need to know is that Bruce got better, while his replacement went nuts.
Another great Batman read: Cataclysm and No Man's Land.
IntangiblesRule
06-17-05, 01:54 PM
I've heard a lot of good things about the new movie. I might go see it this weekend.
Christian Bale is one of my favorite actors, and I'm sure he kicks ass in this movie.
Bale was awesome, best Batman/Bruce Wayne by far.
Michael Caine was great as Alfred too.
Hell, aside from Katie Holmes the entire cast was great.
YankeePride1967
06-19-05, 12:17 AM
I saw the movie and thought it was average down the line. Not exactly waiting on baited breathe for part 2.
BronxByTheBay
06-19-05, 11:26 AM
I don't actually have the compilations, so Amazon probably has better information than I.
Great series of books.
Well, all ordered. First comic series I will be reading in...wow...gotta be at least 12 years.
That guy playing Batman doesnt look like a likeable guy.
Which is a good thing. He's not Superman.
YankeeFan1
06-19-05, 07:51 PM
Good movie. Christian Bale was convincing as the tormented Bruce Wayne. For once, I didn't think of Bruce Wayne as a nutjob running around in a costume. Plus Christian Bale is the first Batman who I couldn't recognize in the Batman costume. Batman seemed like a distinct character which I liked. If you haven't seen Bale in the movie, "Equilibrium," you should. Great fight scenes.
I didn't know that Rutger Hauger was in this movie so that was a nice surprise. Gary Oldman is such a chameleon that I almost didn't recognize him. Michael Caine has always had a great comic timing and he was fun as Alfred. I also thought that Morgan Freeman was good and well used. Liam Neelson was wonderful as always. I would have liked more Ken Ken Watanabe and less Katie Holmes though.
My main complaint (other than the plot seemed out of whack) is that I could barely see the final fight scene which I was really looking forward to. I don't know why they did scripted it in such a confined space. What dummies.
BronxByTheBay
06-19-05, 10:20 PM
My main complaint (other than the plot seemed out of whack) is that I could barely see the final fight scene which I was really looking forward to. I don't know why they did scripted it in such a confined space. What dummies.
I'm not one who likes overly-edited fight sequences. Here, however, I completed understood and appreciated Nolan's choice. No matter how much you try to ground this story in reality, at the end of the day you still have a 6 foot guy in a bat suit fistfighting with people. If shown as regular combat, it just looks stupid. Nolan was trying to give the impression that a dark presence was ripping a hole through a band of guys - my opinion is that he was successful in this. If we see, fully, Batman engaging in hand to hand with anyone it is going to look kind of dorky. Just the nature of the beast, unfortunately (one of the reasons that despite their visual nature, comics don't easily lend themselves to film).
Quite honestly, with the advent of 15 minute Matrix-style fight sequences being the norm, it was somewhat refreshing to see action in support of the story rather than the other way around.
Saxmania
06-20-05, 09:11 AM
Quite enjoyed the film, although I do feel that filmmakers are beginning to settle into a slightly lazy Spiderman-rut with regards these types of film. Reluctant/unlikely hero, spurred to destiny by trauma (usually involving death of a close family member), wrestles with duality of identity, struggles with putting love interest at risk, offered employment by dual-identity villain, etc., etc. I suppose those are problems with the source material as much as anything, and I think 'Begins' handled them better than most, but I would like to see the franchise explore a few more possibilities in the inevitable sequel.
But Nolan was very efficient, I thought, and I was fascinated with the new design of Gotham. Outstanding cast, in particular Caine and Oldman (very clever casting, there, given Oldman's normal typecasting as a villain), and a general avoidance of cliche. I do think this would be a stronger film had it not been preceded by two Spidermans, two X-Men, a Hulk, and some other recent examples of the niche. The 'fear' effect was nice, and not overdone, and I was particularly pleased with the number of Frank Miller elements that were used. 'Dark Knight Returns' dragged me back into comics a little after Gaiman's production tailed off, and Miller thoroughly deserves his time in the spotlight. I need to see 'Sin City' for myself.
My biggest disappointment was the criminal under-use of Watanbe, who bowled me over in 'Last Samurai' (which was admittedly just 'Glory' with armor, but was still beautiful). In 'Begins' he just appeared as a slightly-deranged ninja-samurai cross, which is okay, but hardly seems a good use of his considerable abilities as far as I'm concerned.
Good friend of mine went to school with Bale in Bournemouth. Apparently? Not very nice guy. But then my friend isn't the best judge of character, and I thought Bale was very good as Batman - still do prefer Keaton, though.
Be seeing you,
Saxmania
JetersQueen
06-20-05, 04:28 PM
Yeah, people are already pushing for Glover. He's more weird-crazy than psycho-crazy, though. I can't see the guy in the film only because he'd be acting for whatever film is running through his head.
How about Edward Norton? I can even see Nolan dipping back into a previous well and casting Robin Williams. If this were Schumacher, Williams would be a horrible choice because it would just be a stand up routine with makeup on. Under Nolan's direction, a Williams as the Joker scenerio could be great.
The movie was EXCELLENT!!!! I can't stop talking about it. I've been bombarding my boss with it all day.....
Robin Williams, Johnny Depp, and Al Pacino were my top choices for the Joker....Steve Buscemi is also a good choice.
JetersQueen
06-20-05, 04:31 PM
Tommy Lee Jones was too cartoony, I want to see a darker evil two-face. Maybe Russel Crowe or if they want to go older, Walken.
What about Ed Harris?
Archer1979
06-20-05, 04:31 PM
The movie was EXCELLENT!!!! I can't stop talking about it. I've been bombarding my boss with it all day.....
Robin Williams, Johnny Depp, and Al Pacino were my top choices for the Joker....Steve Buscemi is also a good choice.
We have finally found common ground!!!
From here we build...
Archer1979
06-20-05, 04:32 PM
What about Ed Harris?
Screw that... Billy Dee Williams. He started it, he should finish it.
JetersQueen
06-20-05, 04:35 PM
We have finally found common ground!!!
From here we build...
Here! Here!!
:gulp: :gulp:
Maybe I missed it. Who were your choices for the Joker, or did you submit any?
Archer1979
06-20-05, 04:37 PM
Here! Here!!
:gulp: :gulp:
Maybe I missed it. Who were your choices for the Joker, or did you submit any?
Steve Buscemi.
But we need to work on Two-Face.
JetersQueen
06-20-05, 04:37 PM
Screw that... Billy Dee Williams. He started it, he should finish it.
Nah! This version's too dark for Billy Dee to handle, in my opinion. I would also think about Terrence Howard....He's awesome!!!! He played "Gossie McKee" in "Ray"....the guy who, along with the lady, jerks Ray out of his money in his first gig. It's where he met Quincy Jones and the little man who told him they were cheatin' him.
NYYBombshell
06-20-05, 04:54 PM
I'm still debating on whether or not I want to see this. It's hard for me to invision someone OTHER than Michael Keaton as Batman. Michael Keaton made Batman sexy, and as much as the promos look good, Christian Bale ain't Michael Keaton.
IntangiblesRule
06-20-05, 05:21 PM
I'm still debating on whether or not I want to see this. It's hard for me to invision someone OTHER than Michael Keaton as Batman. Michael Keaton made Batman sexy, and as much as the promos look good, Christian Bale ain't Michael Keaton.
I've heard a few people use this logic and I can't say I blame them. Shumaker absolutely butchered the last two movies...and Clooney just kind of sucked in the role on top of the movie being bad.
I have a feeling if you saw it you'd definitely dig Bale as Batman/Wayne. IMO he came closer to capturing the duality between tortured Bruce and billionaire playboy Bruce than anybody else who has played the role Mr. Keaton included.
Bale kicked all kinds of ass in this movie.
thestupidpunk
06-20-05, 10:08 PM
Arch, the new film has picqued my interest. Have they collected the "Bane breaks Batman's back" storyline into a volume that I can buy? I"ve always wanted to read those issues but I refused to get back into comics at the time. Still do, actually.
I've seen the Knightfall(?) series bound in several volumes.
thestupidpunk
06-20-05, 10:11 PM
I've heard a few people use this logic and I can't say I blame them. Shumaker absolutely butchered the last two movies...and Clooney just kind of sucked in the role on top of the movie being bad.
I have a feeling if you saw it you'd definitely dig Bale as Batman/Wayne. IMO he came closer to capturing the duality between tortured Bruce and billionaire playboy Bruce than anybody else who has played the role Mr. Keaton included.
Bale kicked all kinds of ass in this movie.
Joel Shumaker ruined the movie by picking god-awful villains (Jim Carrey in the 3rd and Governor Arnold in the 4th) and Alicia Silverstone was atrocious, especially when she got fat and decided to wear a rubber outfit. Clooney has absolutely no business being Batman other than the fact that they picked the most popular guy and that Kilmer (while he was decent as Batman) was apparently a jerk and they could no longer work with him.
I knew from American Psycho that Bale would be perfect playing Bruce Wayne and he did capture the duality perfectly than any other actor that played Batman. He is, in my opinion, the best Batman ever.
True Yankee-ette13
06-21-05, 12:32 AM
This movie was awesome! Everyone should go see it. This is coming from somebody who generally doesn't like action or super hero films. It's THAT good.
brosiusbuddy
06-21-05, 01:36 PM
It really was an awesome movie. Great action sequences, GREAT acting for an action movie (Liam Neeson, Michael Caine, Gary Oldman, and a good performance from Bale).
I had a problem with the weapon used by the bad guys, a water vaporizor... (i just don't understand how it worked... the human body is what 75% water, 90%, something like that. it could vaporize water in a sewer system from a monorail track, but not water in a human body)
aside from that one thing, i thought this was a fantastic movie.
IntangiblesRule
06-21-05, 01:40 PM
It really was an awesome movie. Great action sequences, GREAT acting for an action movie (Liam Neeson, Michael Caine, Gary Oldman, and a good performance from Bale).
I had a problem with the weapon used by the bad guys, a water vaporizor... (i just don't understand how it worked... the human body is what 75% water, 90%, something like that. it could vaporize water in a sewer system from a monorail track, but not water in a human body)
aside from that one thing, i thought this was a fantastic movie.
Yeah that was silly, but heck it is based on a comic book about a man who dresses up in a batsuit so I was willing to have suspension of disbelief when it came to that. ;)
Hitman23
06-21-05, 10:18 PM
awesome movie! Cillian Murphy was incredible as Scarecrow. Liam Neeson was perfect. I love that it was dark and very weird.
RhodyYanksFan
06-21-05, 11:49 PM
Now THAT is what a Batman movie should be. Dark, creepy and moving. I loved it!
Hitman23
06-22-05, 08:18 AM
Now THAT is what a Batman movie should be. Dark, creepy and moving. I loved it!****spoiler alert****
how sick was it when Scarecrow saw Batman on that halucinogen?
RhodyYanksFan
06-22-05, 08:28 AM
****spoiler alert****
how sick was it when Scarecrow saw Batman on that halucinogen?
Or when people looked like zombies in the Narrows :jaw-drop:
Scarecrow's mask was really freaky too...
Hitman23
06-22-05, 08:37 AM
Or when people looked like zombies in the Narrows :jaw-drop:
I loved all the special effects when people were on the drug. The first tme when Bruce goes on it and he's staring at the box with bats during his training, the whole world is vibrating except for the box. Visually this movie was just incredible.
Scarecrow's mask was really freaky too...it was perfect! The actor who played him was awesome.
RhodyYanksFan
06-22-05, 08:46 AM
it was perfect! The actor who played him was awesome.
He was good, but a little too young to be a brilliant, accomplished doctor in charge of a mental hospital. Maybe I'm being too picky.
IntangiblesRule
06-22-05, 10:30 AM
He was good, but a little too young to be a brilliant, accomplished doctor in charge of a mental hospital. Maybe I'm being too picky.
If Katie Holmes can play a high powered DA...
RhodyYanksFan
06-22-05, 10:32 AM
If Katie Holmes can play a high powered DA...
...but she can't.
IntangiblesRule
06-22-05, 10:38 AM
...but she can't.
good point.
RhodyYanksFan
06-22-05, 11:44 AM
good point.
Didn't ruin the movie though.
BronxByTheBay
06-24-05, 10:24 AM
http://www.joblo.com/index.php?id=7866
Sean Penn as the Joker?? F*ck yes, I say.
And I agree with the article - short of Penn, I think Brody would be a fantastic choice.
IntangiblesRule
06-24-05, 10:44 AM
http://www.joblo.com/index.php?id=7866
Sean Penn as the Joker?? F*ck yes, I say.
And I agree with the article - short of Penn, I think Brody would be a fantastic choice.
Sean Penn would kick so much ass as the psychotic, homicidal, genocidal, maniac. Joker would be one scary ass mofo!
Hitman23
06-24-05, 10:49 AM
Sean Penn would kick so much ass as the psychotic, homicidal, genocidal, maniac. Joker would be one scary ass mofo!I have to agree he would be a great choice. I initially heard Crispin Glover, who I also like for the part.
RhodyYanksFan
06-24-05, 10:50 AM
http://www.joblo.com/index.php?id=7866
Sean Penn as the Joker?? F*ck yes, I say.
And I agree with the article - short of Penn, I think Brody would be a fantastic choice.
I dunno...I think Adrien Brody would be amazing in it. He has the right look - angular long face, skinny, crazy eyes (as shown in the horrible Villiage). Penn is good in everything he does though so they could do worse then him. He's kind of old though and if they don't kill him off at the end (he should end up in Arkham) it could get crappy later on.
ChrisV82
06-25-05, 02:37 AM
If you're gonna get the aging Sean Penn to do it, then you may as well get Mark Hamill. We know Hamill can do the Joker's voice like nobody else.
Slavenka
06-25-05, 11:30 AM
http://www.joblo.com/index.php?id=7866
Sean Penn as the Joker?? F*ck yes, I say.
And I agree with the article - short of Penn, I think Brody would be a fantastic choice.
Even though I think Penn is a great actor, I don't think I like him as Joker. I've also read this week that Paul Bettany has been approached.
JfromJersey
06-26-05, 12:28 PM
Batman Begins is a very good movie that I would rate a notch below the Tim Burton film with Keaton. I loved Bale in the title role, the acting and CGI were great, and it held your interest for the entire 2+ hours. I have a few minor quibbles. The Bale/Holmes coupling was kind of weak..not much chemistry there IMO. There really was no explanation of how Bale became such a good fighter before his encounter with Neeson and his secret society. Some of the fight sequences were confusing.
brosiusbuddy
06-26-05, 11:24 PM
He was good, but a little too young to be a brilliant, accomplished doctor in charge of a mental hospital. Maybe I'm being too picky.
I agree. Although Gary Oldman played his part well, he'd have been better as Scarecrow. Hes a great villain (Bram Stoker's Dracula, Fifth Element, Air Force One, etc)
If Katie Holmes can play a high powered DA...
She was just the DA's assistant. She took over for him. I think I remember the Scarecrow talking to the head gangster guy saying how she was apesky DA assistant that'd be tough to get rid of.
RhodyYanksFan
06-27-05, 10:27 AM
I picked up a copy of it in Chinatown yesterday. I'll watch it some time today. So is it more gory then scary?
EDIT: This was supposed to be in the Land of the Dead thread. My b.
thecaptain
06-27-05, 12:29 PM
Christian Bale lost over 60 pounds for the part in the The Machinists. i guess he put on a few pounds for this. i was shocked at his weight lost.
RhodyYanksFan
11-13-05, 08:54 PM
I just got my copy of the DVD. After watching it again I have a question (Warning: Spoilers)
Is Liam Neeson really Ra's Al Ghul? Or did they waste the villian on 25 minutes of backstory?
I just got my copy of the DVD. After watching it again I have a question (Warning: Spoilers)
Is Liam Neeson really Ra's Al Ghul? Or did they waste the villian on 25 minutes of backstory?
He really is.
I just got my copy of the DVD. After watching it again I have a question (Warning: Spoilers)
Is Liam Neeson really Ra's Al Ghul? Or did they waste the villian on 25 minutes of backstory?
SPOILER.......
Neeson was Ra's Al Ghul. Ken Watanabe played a decoy.
Great movie, by the way. The best Batman movie yet (imo).
I just rented it this weekend, after initially seeing it in the movies when it came out.
Great movie, by the way. The best Batman movie yet (imo).
I just rented it this weekend, after initially seeing it in the movies when it came out.
I agree John. Can't wait for part 2 with the Joker who is IMO the best comic book villian ever.
True Yankee-ette13
11-13-05, 10:28 PM
This movie was incredible. I can't get over how good it was. :lol:
This movie was incredible. I can't get over how good it was. :lol:
I think the fact that it was alot more realistic than the other superhero movies out there makes this one so good. Plus they actually potrayed Batman as the dark knight and not a fruitcake.
True Yankee-ette13
11-13-05, 11:04 PM
I think the fact that it was alot more realistic than the other superhero movies out there makes this one so good. Plus they actually potrayed Batman as the dark knight and not a fruitcake.
:lol: This is true. They took a more scientific approach because he just didn't develop some weird, random superpower overnight. It was just extremely well-done overall.
I agree John. Can't wait for part 2 with the Joker who is IMO the best comic book villian ever.I have yet to see this movie, but are they really making a 2nd one with the Joker in it? Nicholson in the original Batman was perfect as the Joker.
JfromJersey
11-14-05, 12:04 AM
Bale is the definitive Batman.
CptCrunch
11-14-05, 12:15 AM
Great movie but I thought the weapon system didn't make any sense. The thing should have vaporized everyone considering we're 70% composed of water.
RhodyYanksFan
11-14-05, 09:16 AM
:lol: This is true. They took a more scientific approach because he just didn't develop some weird, random superpower overnight. It was just extremely well-done overall.
They somehow pulled it off making you believe that a guy would dress as a giant bat and fight crime and believe it could actually happen.
I have yet to see this movie, but are they really making a 2nd one with the Joker in it? Nicholson in the original Batman was perfect as the Joker.
If you watched the cartoons then you'd see that Nicholson's Joker was nothing like the real Joker.
Irascible Yankee Fan
01-17-06, 07:50 AM
Wow! I just saw this for the first time, and it was fantastic! It is great to see these superhero movies being done the right way....like Spiderman was done.
I found no flaws with this movie, and it made some of the other Batman movies look really bad.
The latest rumor for the sequel is Johnny Depp as the Joker...that could be quite excellent.
DontHateOnNumber2
01-17-06, 08:24 AM
If you watched the cartoons then you'd see that Nicholson's Joker was nothing like the real Joker.
Yeah, in the comics the Joker is more of a psychopath rather than the funny, obnoxious gangster that Nicholson portrayed. They should score Mark Hamill (the voice of Joker from the cartoon) to play Joker, he sounds psycho.
RhodyYanksFan
01-17-06, 08:55 AM
Yeah, in the comics the Joker is more of a psychopath rather than the funny, obnoxious gangster that Nicholson portrayed. They should score Mark Hamill (the voice of Joker from the cartoon) to play Joker, he sounds psycho.
Mark Hamill already proved he can be a comic book villian by his brilliant portrayal of Cock-knocker in Jay & Silent Bob Strike Back.
Yankee Bulldawg
01-17-06, 09:05 AM
the Joker is my favorite all time Batman villain
Kulish29
01-17-06, 09:21 AM
Am I totally crazy in thinking Benicio del Toro would be a good Joker?
Mark Hamil is my first choice for the next Joker BUT there is another perfect guy for the role: Hugo Weaving(Agent Smith). He'd be perfect cuz imo he can pull off the funny and crazy personality of the Joker at the same time. Plus he's got the Joker laugh(remember in Revolutions in the scene with the Oracle). So it better be Mark Hamil or Hugo Weaving. Anyone else they get will end up being like the Jack Nicholson Joker which I hated.
Oh and please DON'T download Batman Begins off of Bearshare!! All you'll get is gay porn.
RhodeyYankee2638
01-17-06, 02:49 PM
Am I totally crazy in thinking Benicio del Toro would be a good Joker?
I think Jack Nicholson would make a good one
Evil Empire
01-17-06, 02:52 PM
I think Mark Hammill will make a great Joker.
Wang's Groundballs
01-17-06, 03:41 PM
Oh and please DON'T download Batman Begins off of Bearshare!! All you'll get is gay porn.
You don't say...
BronxByTheBay
01-17-06, 04:06 PM
Mark Hamill? You guys are insane. I know all of this stems from his voicework in the cartoon series, but voicework and acting on screen are two very different things. Hamill would be a disaster because first and foremost he's an awful actor.
Not to mention I doubt that Chris Nolan's version of the Joker is going to resemble the comics version too closely. From what I've read they're even changing the Penguin - he's going to be a Russian arms dealer. At least thats' what is floating around out there right now.
JetersQueen
01-17-06, 04:09 PM
As far as psychopaths go, Johnny Depp is still my first choice. I'd also like to see Ed Harris and/or Anthony Hopkins (Hanibal Lecter anyone?) as villains.
Evil Empire
01-17-06, 04:16 PM
Mark Hamill? You guys are insane. I know all of this stems from his voicework in the cartoon series, but voicework and acting on screen are two very different things. Hamill would be a disaster because first and foremost he's an awful actor.
Not to mention I doubt that Chris Nolan's version of the Joker is going to resemble the comics version too closely. From what I've read they're even changing the Penguin - he's going to be a Russian arms dealer. At least thats' what is floating around out there right now.
I don't think he's that bad of an actor not to mention that his experience with the character would make him a good choice, I think.
If not for him, then I think that Johnny Depp too would make a good Joker.
Hitman23
01-17-06, 04:17 PM
I don't think he's that bad of an actor not to mention that his experience with the character would make him a good choice, I think.
If not for him, then I think that Johnny Depp too would make a good Joker.My first pick would be Kevin Spacey. He plays a villain better then anyone out there IMO. But he's doing Superman, so he's out.
Evil Empire
01-17-06, 04:19 PM
My first pick would be Kevin Spacey. He plays a villain better then anyone out there IMO. But he's doing Superman, so he's out.
He didn't even cross my mind, but he wouldn't be too bad I guess. He seems too calm to play a maniacal clown.
He could play both, but that might screw up any Batman/Superman crossover in planning(which I heard they're going to do).
Hitman23
01-17-06, 04:22 PM
He didn't even cross my mind, but he wouldn't be too bad I guess. He seems too calm to play a maniacal clown.
He could play both, but that might screw up any Batman/Superman crossover in planning(which I heard they're going to do).That would be really cool if they did a crossover.
Based on the Jokers looks, Depp would be a good pick. But he's a little too, I dunno, feminine to be playing it though.
BronxByTheBay
01-17-06, 04:24 PM
That would be really cool if they did a crossover.
Based on the Jokers looks, Depp would be a good pick. But he's a little too, I dunno, feminine to be playing it though.
The Joker is very feminine.
As for the crossover, forget it - ain't happening. They were all set to do it a few years ago with Wolfgang Peterson directing, but decided to relaunch the Superman and Batman franchises individually, thus we got Batman Begins and Superman Returns.
Hitman23
01-17-06, 04:27 PM
As for the crossover, forget it - ain't happening. They were all set to do it a few years ago with Wolfgang Peterson directing, but decided to relaunch the Superman and Batman franchises individually, thus we got Batman Begins and Superman Returns.They made Freddy vs Jason. You know as well as I do, the market will be there, it's just a matter of time before they find a way to cash in.
BronxByTheBay
01-17-06, 04:30 PM
They made Freddy vs Jason. You know as well as I do, the market will be there, it's just a matter of time before they find a way to cash in.
It's not about there being a dearth of a market, it's just why combine it when you can have two different streams coming in. The whole reason WB decided against it was because they were convinced they could successfully relaunch both franchises on their own. Considering the super hero boom of the last 6 years, it was a good bet.
Freddy Vs. Jason came about because New Line knew both franchises were dead and wanted to do something to reinvigorate them. Same happened with Alien vs. Predator.
It may happen in 10-15 years after the current franchises have burnt themselves out again.
RhodeyYankee2638
01-17-06, 04:31 PM
I thinnk Willem Dafoe would make an awsome villain
Panamaniac42
01-17-06, 09:21 PM
I thinnk Willem Dafoe would make an awsome villain
he was Green Goblin in Spiderman
Evil Empire
01-17-06, 09:28 PM
he was Green Goblin in Spiderman
Heh....
MisterNovember
01-17-06, 09:53 PM
HUGO WEAVING damnit!!
Anyone else think Crispin Glover would be a helluva Joker? He's got the right sort of look, and he's utterly insane. I think he'd be great.
Based on their casting choices for "Batman Begins", I have a feeling the producers might shy away from casting someone like Johnny Depp as the Joker. The biggest problem with the old Burton/Schumacher movies was that the villians always overshadowed Batman.
Anyone else think Crispin Glover would be a helluva Joker? He's got the right sort of look, and he's utterly insane. I think he'd be great.
Based on their casting choices for "Batman Begins", I have a feeling the producers might shy away from casting someone like Johnny Depp as the Joker. The biggest problem with the old Burton/Schumacher movies was that the villians always overshadowed Batman.
That and they were all gay.
MisterNovember
01-18-06, 12:05 AM
That and they were all gay.
The Burton Batmen were gay? Thats news to me...
The Burton Batmen were gay? Thats news to me...
No not Batman, the villians. None of them were cool in anyway.
Archer1979
01-18-06, 05:40 AM
The biggest problem with the old Burton/Schumacher movies was that the villians always overshadowed Batman.
That actually happened only in the first two movies... the ones that were successful.
The last two movies, the protagonists were more interesting and the movies sucked.
In order for super-hero movies to work, the villians have to be the more interesting characters.
RhodeyYankee2638
01-18-06, 07:52 AM
he was Green Goblin in Spiderman
See, I told you he would make an awsome villain. I think he would make a good joker. They can't get Nicholson again, his salary last time was $60 million
JetersQueen
01-18-06, 10:25 AM
New update: Sequel slated for release in 2008
Chris Nolan in talks to helm it again, but not confirmed. David Goyer, the screenwriter, isn't yet confirmed but talking with Nolan about the sequel. They both want to do it.
The villains: (Front-runners as of this month):[U]
Joker: Adrien Brody (only one to say he'd do the role)
Two-Face: Josh Lucas (Sweet Home Alabama) & Liev Schrieber
Penguin: Phillip Seymour Hoffman
In terms of physical appearance, Brody seems to fit the bill. For psychopathic pleasure, I think both Depp & Brody could show a side that no one has seen. A Two-Face I hadn't thought about until today...Alec Baldwin. If you saw 'The Edge' with Anthony Hopkins, you KNOW Alec could play Two-Face perfectly. He also has that 'Gotham-look' for Batman. PSH IS a really good choice for Penguin. Also, maybe that guy who played Matt McConaughey's lawyer friend in 'A Time To Kill'.
At any rate, I'm already stoked for the sequel and I never really got into the whole superhero thing until last year's film. Sure, I'd read the comics and watched the shows growing up, but nothing excited me until Bale's Batman came out. Not even the first Spiderman.
Your thoughts please...
MisterNovember
01-18-06, 10:32 AM
The villains: (Front-runners as of this month):[U]
Joker: Adrien Brody (only one to say he'd do the role)
Two-Face: Josh Lucas (Sweet Home Alabama) & Liev Schrieber
Penguin: Phillip Seymour Hoffman
They're not really having three villians, are they? Why can't they simply make a superhero movie with ONE friggin bad guy?!?
RhodyYanksFan
01-18-06, 10:36 AM
New update: Sequel slated for release in 2008
Chris Nolan in talks to helm it again, but not confirmed. David Goyer, the screenwriter, isn't yet confirmed but talking with Nolan about the sequel. They both want to do it.
The villains: (Front-runners as of this month):[U]
Joker: Adrien Brody (only one to say he'd do the role)
Two-Face: Josh Lucas (Sweet Home Alabama) & Liev Schrieber
Penguin: Phillip Seymour Hoffman
In terms of physical appearance, Brody seems to fit the bill. For psychopathic pleasure, I think both Depp & Brody could show a side that no one has seen. A Two-Face I hadn't thought about until today...Alec Baldwin. If you saw 'The Edge' with Anthony Hopkins, you KNOW Alec could play Two-Face perfectly. He also has that 'Gotham-look' for Batman. PSH IS a really good choice for Penguin. Also, maybe that guy who played Matt McConaughey's lawyer friend in 'A Time To Kill'.
At any rate, I'm already stoked for the sequel and I never really got into the whole superhero thing until last year's film. Sure, I'd read the comics and watched the shows growing up, but nothing excited me until Bale's Batman came out. Not even the first Spiderman.
Your thoughts please...
Nolan directing = good
3 villians = horrible idea. Especially the 3 biggies in one film. There wouldn't be enough on each of them and that will drag their character's down. The next one should be the Joker and have Scarecrow come back (b/c he didn't die or get caught in Batman Begins).
By his lawyer friend don't you mean Sandra Bullock?
MisterNovember
01-18-06, 10:38 AM
Nolan directing = good
3 villians = horrible idea. Especially the 3 biggies in one film. There wouldn't be enough on each of them and that will drag their character's down. The next one should be the Joker and have Scarecrow come back (b/c he didn't die or get caught in Batman Begins).
By his lawyer friend don't you mean Sandra Bullock?
I think he means Oliver Platt, but Sandra might bring a fresh take on Oswald Cobblepott...
:)
RhodyYanksFan
01-18-06, 11:06 AM
I think he means Oliver Platt, but Sandra might bring a fresh take on Oswald Cobblepott...
:)
Ahh that's right. I never liked the Penguin. Too silly a villian.
JetersQueen
01-18-06, 11:46 AM
My bad. I should've been more clear about the villains. I don't understand it, but apparently they (the studio execs) are undecided about WHICH villain will appear in the sequel even after showing the Joker card. I expect the Joker, but the other two are possibilities. Those are the actors that are in the running to play them.
Oliver Platt is exactly who I'm talking about. He and P. S. Hoffman are okay choices. They are both round. I'm reaching here, but another good one might be Jim Belushi.
JetersQueen
01-18-06, 11:48 AM
I think he means Oliver Platt, but Sandra might bring a fresh take on Oswald Cobblepott...
:)
Look here Mister...(smile) The Queen is a 'she'.
MisterNovember
01-18-06, 11:53 AM
Look here Mister...(smile) The Queen is a 'she'.
Ooops...my bad! Sorry! :)
Archer1979
01-27-06, 08:03 PM
The Joker is very feminine.
As for the crossover, forget it - ain't happening. They were all set to do it a few years ago with Wolfgang Peterson directing, but decided to relaunch the Superman and Batman franchises individually, thus we got Batman Begins and Superman Returns.
Maybe Anne Hathaway:
Anne Hathaway (http://www.thesuperficial.com/archives/2006/01/25/anne_hathaway_is_turning_into.html)
BronxByTheBay
01-27-06, 08:09 PM
Maybe Anne Hathaway:
Anne Hathaway (http://www.thesuperficial.com/archives/2006/01/25/anne_hathaway_is_turning_into.html)
Umm. Uhhh. She's got a nice rack..?
Hitman23
01-30-06, 08:30 AM
It's not about there being a dearth of a market, it's just why combine it when you can have two different streams coming in. The whole reason WB decided against it was because they were convinced they could successfully relaunch both franchises on their own. Considering the super hero boom of the last 6 years, it was a good bet.
Freddy Vs. Jason came about because New Line knew both franchises were dead and wanted to do something to reinvigorate them. Same happened with Alien vs. Predator.
It may happen in 10-15 years after the current franchises have burnt themselves out again.You should write a book. And anytime I ever have a question about anything in this world, I'm gonna ask you. I bow to the omnicient one. I'm not worthy!
Bozidar
01-30-06, 08:55 AM
Dunno if it was discussed at all, but the guy who plays the Scarecrow in this film was the main character in 28 Days Later (a movie i really enjoyed).
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