Will the Giants win again this season? [Archive]

NYYFAN

12-01-04, 12:03 PM

When they went with Eli, they gave up on the season...his starts will eventually pay off in the future. One problem with the Giants is no #1 pick next year...

I would think the Giants would win a game or two before the end of the season...but I didn't look at their schedule...

PinstripePride

12-01-04, 12:05 PM

Sunday, 12/5 4:15 PM ET FOX at Redskins
Sunday, 12/12 1:00 PM ET FOX at Ravens
Saturday, 12/18 1:30 PM ET CBS STEELERS
Sunday, 12/26 1:00 PM ET FOX at Bengals
Sunday, 1/2 8:30 PM ET ESPN COWBOYS

reelbiggecko

12-01-04, 12:47 PM

They'll win again...and they'll start this week. Washington is going downhill even faster than they are.

DaBoys4LifeNYY35

12-01-04, 05:01 PM

They aren't winning on 1/2.

They have to lose this Sunday. I'm not commenting on who this means has to win :barf: ...they just have to lose.

PinstripePride

12-01-04, 05:15 PM

Originally posted by DaBoys4LifeNYY35
They aren't winning on 1/2.

They have to lose this Sunday. I'm not commenting on who this means has to win :barf: ...they just have to lose.

Why?

NYYFAN

12-01-04, 06:17 PM

Originally posted by PinstripePride

Why?

On 1-2-05 they play Dallas...and you know how Nat feels about her "Boys"...

PinstripePride

12-01-04, 08:52 PM

She's still holding onto playoff hopes?

NYYFAN

12-01-04, 09:38 PM

Originally posted by PinstripePride
She's still holding onto playoff hopes?

No...it's personal...:lol:

FreeYayo

12-01-04, 11:05 PM

They'll beat the 'skins and the 'boys.

SoCal Pinstriper

12-02-04, 12:32 AM

They have a chace to win both of their remaining NFC games because they are not that much worse than anyone else in that conference (except Philly).

DaBoys4LifeNYY35

12-02-04, 04:27 PM

Originally posted by PinstripePride
She's still holding onto playoff hopes?
We're a game back in the wild card. With Julius back, we should start playing like we should have been playing all season, at least offensively. The teams in front of us: Minny can collapse any second. The Rams have been so unpredictable all season, who knows? And the Giants are on the skids, especially with the rookie QB--no matter how great he may turn out to be, he isn't close right now, especially with the line finally playing to it's (lack of) abilities. And their defense has lost some key dudes.

The NFC after Philly and Atlanta is so ridiculously bad, it's...ridiculous!

It ain't over 'til it's over...

PinstripePride

12-02-04, 06:12 PM

Guess you're right. Didn't realize the Boys still had a chance/

ryanm1058123

12-02-04, 10:31 PM

Originally posted by DaBoys4LifeNYY35

We're a game back in the wild card. With Julius back, we should start playing like we should have been playing all season, at least offensively. The teams in front of us: Minny can collapse any second. The Rams have been so unpredictable all season, who knows? And the Giants are on the skids, especially with the rookie QB--no matter how great he may turn out to be, he isn't close right now, especially with the line finally playing to it's (lack of) abilities. And their defense has lost some key dudes.

The NFC after Philly and Atlanta is so ridiculously bad, it's...ridiculous!

It ain't over 'til it's over...

Julius Jones is not a big time back. He had one big game. I'd like him to do it for a whole season. The Bears gameplan was, if they were going to get beat, they were going to get beat by the run. They did. Once teams start expecting a run from the Cowboys, his yardage will go down.

knickfan23

12-02-04, 11:11 PM

Amazing that with a Giants win and a Rams loss, the Giants would have a 1 game lead in the playoff race.

Amazing to say that considering there is a portion of us who believe the Giants will not win another game this season.

DaBoys4LifeNYY35

12-02-04, 11:14 PM

Originally posted by ryanm1058123

Julius Jones is not a big time back.

He's got nice burst. The little over 2 games he's played aren't enough to make the assessment you made.

At the very least, he's infinitely better than Eddie George and Richie Anderson, and better than Troy Hambrick.

SoCal Pinstriper

12-03-04, 12:44 AM

Originally posted by DaBoys4LifeNYY35

He's got nice burst. The little over 2 games he's played aren't enough to make the assessment you made.

At the very least, he's infinitely better than Eddie George and Richie Anderson, and better than Troy Hambrick. He'll out gain Ricky Williams this season.

IncredibleByNature

12-03-04, 02:23 AM

Yeah, they'll win again.

tdel23

12-03-04, 02:53 PM

I think they can beat Washington, Dallas and Cincinnati

NYYFAN

12-05-04, 06:45 PM

All I know is SD is loving the Giants #1 draft pick if this keeps up...could be a top 10 or even top 5 the way it's going...

deranged2005

12-05-04, 06:57 PM

Originally posted by NYYFAN
All I know is SD is loving the Giants #1 draft pick if this keeps up...could be a top 10 or even top 5 the way it's going...

Sad ain't it.

If the Giants win 1 game, I'll be happy. If they win 2 more games, I'll be suprised.

NJ Fan

12-05-04, 09:58 PM

Originally posted by NYYFAN
All I know is SD is loving the Giants #1 draft pick if this keeps up...could be a top 10 or even top 5 the way it's going...

HAHAHAHA!!! May they not win another game this year! All because little Eli didn't want to play for the Chargers...he wanted to be on a WINNING team! HAHAHAHA!!

:D :p :cool: :evil:

NYYFAN

12-05-04, 10:03 PM

Originally posted by NJ Fan

HAHAHAHA!!! May they not win another game this year! All because little Eli didn't want to play for the Chargers...he wanted to be on a WINNING team! HAHAHAHA!!

:D :p :cool: :evil:

You must be in heaven Julie...I hope SD goes far this year...

NJ Fan

12-05-04, 10:10 PM

Originally posted by NYYFAN

You must be in heaven Julie...I hope SD goes far this year...

Thanks, Mark! I'm cautiously optimistic. Indy is scaring me a bit. I'm considering finding tickets and going there for the 12/26 game. Should be a great game....I hope. Glad your boys lost today----for your pick's sake. :D

IntangiblesRule

12-05-04, 10:31 PM

Originally posted by DaBoys4LifeNYY35
They aren't winning on 1/2.

They have to lose this Sunday. I'm not commenting on who this means has to win :barf: ...they just have to lose.

I blame you for the Giants losing today, that's right...YOU! Its not natural for a Cowboy fan to want the Skins to win. You caused the entire game to spin of its natural axis.

DaBoys4LifeNYY35

12-05-04, 10:42 PM

Originally posted by IntangiblesRule

I blame you for the Giants losing today, that's right...YOU! Its not natural for a Cowboy fan to want the Skins to win. You caused the entire game to spin of its natural axis.

I said nothing of the sort! I said the Giants had to LOSE, and, like my younger brother says, "When the Redskins win, everyone loses." (I've taught him well. ;) )

Kulish29

12-05-04, 10:42 PM

Originally posted by IntangiblesRule

I blame you for the Giants losing today, that's right...YOU! Its not natural for a Cowboy fan to want the Skins to win. You caused the entire game to spin of its natural axis.

Atleast the Giants will be in 2nd this year.

:lol:

Pathetic, 2nd place in the NFC East will have a losing record.

This teams needs ASS LOADS of help. Recievers, Defense, Offensive line. EVERYTHING. This is an awful team right now.

DaBoys4LifeNYY35

12-05-04, 10:44 PM

Originally posted by Kulish29

Atleast the Giants will be in 2nd this year.

Let's not count any pre-hatched chickens now, eh?

FreeYayo

12-05-04, 11:21 PM

Originally posted by FreeYayo
They'll beat the 'skins and the 'boys.
They'll beat the Ravens and the 'boys.

RIyankee

12-06-04, 10:17 AM

I know this is cheap, but I waited until now to vote.

The only winnable game they have is Dallas, at home and the finale, and I have serious doubts about that game as well.

They won't win until the Fall of 2005. :(

RhodyYanksFan

12-06-04, 10:17 AM

Originally posted by RhodyYanksFan
I think this weekend is there last real shot at victory and I'm still not confident. This team is looking worse each week.

You heard it here first. That's why I voted 0.

I love 'em, but they suck.

NelsonMuntz

12-06-04, 04:56 PM

I was at the game yesterday. The Giants looked absolutely pathetic. I had to endure abuse from drunk Redskins fans throughout the game. I wouldn't have minded so much except for the fact that I'm not even a Giants fan. But I was foolish enough to wear my Yankees cap to the game, so I guess the drunk skins fans just assumed. In any event, if the Giants play the rest of their games like they did yesterday, they will not win again.

TyWebb

12-06-04, 08:06 PM

Originally posted by NelsonMuntz
I was at the game yesterday. The Giants looked absolutely pathetic.

One of the refs for yesterday's game is a friend of my father, he said the Giants had no passion and played lazy football the whole game.

I'm not going to either of the home games left. &po'd&

IntangiblesRule

12-06-04, 08:09 PM

Originally posted by DaBoys4LifeNYY35

Let's not count any pre-hatched chickens now, eh?

Due to your anti-Giant mojo I am pulling hard for Walrus Man and the Seahawks tonight. (Yeah, I'm bitter after the 5-2 start...sue me :) )

NelsonMuntz

12-06-04, 08:29 PM

Originally posted by TyWebb

One of the refs for yesterday's game is a friend of my father, he said the Giants had no passion and played lazy football the whole game.

Yeah that's pretty much the way I saw it too.

DaBoys4LifeNYY35

12-06-04, 09:26 PM

Originally posted by TyWebb

I'm not going to either of the home games left. &po'd&

But you have tickets? Wanna sell me 'em for 1/2? :D

TyWebb

12-06-04, 10:15 PM

Originally posted by DaBoys4LifeNYY35

But you have tickets? Wanna sell me 'em for 1/2? :D

*I* have one for each game. My father has another, my grandfather has 2, my uncles/assorted other family members have 13 more. (We roll in there strong ;))

I have ethical issues about giving them to no-good Cowboy fans, but you seem like a good kid and a good (although misguided) football fan. ;) I could probably come up with a few for you...how many are you interested in?

ChrisV82

12-12-04, 02:24 PM

Originally posted by FreeYayo

They'll beat the Ravens and the 'boys.

Good thing the Giants got rid of Jim Fassell, because it's pretty obvious he was the problem. Idiots. Watching the Giants is like riding Amtrak - you know you're going to derail, it's just a matter of time.

deranged2005

12-12-04, 02:39 PM

The sad part is Eli isn't the problem, the team round him just sucks. Flat out sucks. And Eli gets the blame.

wexy

12-12-04, 02:54 PM

I was out late last so I took a nap when the Giants were down 10-0.
Woke up and it was 30-7. The nap was my best decision today.

Looie #19

12-12-04, 03:02 PM

Originally posted by deranged2005
The sad part is Eli isn't the problem, the team round him just sucks. Flat out sucks. And Eli gets the blame.

So Manning shouldn't get any blame for being significantly worse than Warner was?

deranged2005

12-12-04, 03:15 PM

Originally posted by Looie #19
So Manning shouldn't get any blame for being significantly worse than Warner was?

The team was also a lot better when Warner had the ball. Injuries kill this team. Who's even on the offensive line now? Snee has been out the last two weeks, the defensive line has been beat up, recievers aren't catching the ball for Eli. They aren't responding for Eli or the coach.

Of course, as I type this, Barber scores with a drive led by Warner. But I still believe Eli isn't to blame.

ToneinTO

12-12-04, 05:01 PM

The Giants' season has become a joke. Accorsi has to get better offensive linemen next year-is there a worse unit in the NFL?

Kulish29

12-12-04, 08:10 PM

Originally posted by Looie #19

So Manning shouldn't get any blame for being significantly worse than Warner was?

He's a rookie. He'll have his growing pains. He was still the best decision for this team. The whole team right now is putrid.

twentyquestions

12-12-04, 11:35 PM

Originally posted by Kulish29

He's a rookie. He'll have his growing pains. He was still the best decision for this team. The whole team right now is putrid.

In a schadenfreude sortaway, I love watching the Giants. 3 turnovers in the 1st quarter? Sign of a champion.

TyWebb

12-13-04, 09:45 AM

Originally posted by ToneinTO
Accorsi has to get better offensive linemen next year-is there a worse unit in the NFL?

I don't know...but I can only imagine how badly Pittsburgh's D front is going to manhandle them next week...yikes.

Kulish29

12-13-04, 12:22 PM

The Giants will win again this season. It will be the last game of the season, against the Cowboys. :)

BroadwayBomber55

12-13-04, 04:14 PM

The biggest question for NY Giants fans is should Tom Coughlin keep Eli Manning in there?

NYYFAN

12-13-04, 06:57 PM

Originally posted by BroadwayBomber55
The biggest question for NY Giants fans is should Tom Coughlin keep Eli Manning in there?

He would get killed by the media...when he went to Manning he gave up on the season with the attempt to build Eli up for the future...to turn back now would be a big mistake...

on a bright note, the Giants #2 draft pick has been moving up...

expectTHEunexpected

12-13-04, 08:21 PM

Keep Eli in the field. Kurt Warner wouldn't really increase our chances of winning, people forget he probably would've set the single season sack and fumble record if he stayed.

Kulish29

12-13-04, 09:19 PM

Originally posted by NYYFAN

on a bright note, the Giants #2 draft pick has been moving up...

Best part of the season. Mara and Accorsi must pick WISELY.

thestupidpunk

12-13-04, 11:27 PM

Originally posted by NYYFAN

on a bright note, the Giants #2 draft pick has been moving up...

Hopefully they'll get someone to buff up that horrific offensive line...

It's one of those rare occassions when pre-season analysts obsess over a problem and that just happen to be the problem that plagues the team all season long. It's usually difficult to predict NFL outcomes, but this one seems right on....sadly.