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nufced1918
07-23-04, 10:07 AM
I really did not need to see this with my morning coffee

http://news.bostonherald.com/images/localRegional/20030723_babe_lg.jpg

A Big Apple newspaper has plunked a Doodle of a New York Yankees ad smack inside the pages of the Herald, a foray into enemy territory that will only rile the red-blooded denizens of Red Sox Nation. (http://news.bostonherald.com/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=36799)

chanman7483
07-23-04, 10:12 AM
:snooze:

Pedro's cuff
07-23-04, 10:14 AM
Don't you have some profanity laden PM's from a boston.com sports editor on an ego trip to attend to?

NDBoston
07-23-04, 10:15 AM
Originally posted by Pedro's cuff
Don't you have some profanity laden PM's from a boston.com sports editor on an ego trip to attend to?

where's the clock?

Pedro's cuff
07-23-04, 10:16 AM
:lol:
KAPOW!

Alex
07-23-04, 10:24 AM
I absolutely cannot believe that the Herald allowed that ad to be placed. Cannot believe it. If I were a Red Sox fan, I'd boycott the paper. Stirring the pot when the Yankees came to town.

yanksrule69
07-23-04, 10:25 AM
Ha Ha Ha that is funny. Not as funny as when they flew the plane over Boston during the ALCS last year but it is still pretty good.:lol: :lol:

Pedro's cuff
07-23-04, 10:26 AM
Here's the thing Alex. The Red Sox play it up too.

So what's the difference between the low lifes at the Boston Herald and the low lifes in the executive office on Yawkey Way?

Alex
07-23-04, 10:26 AM
The article mentions that the Herald has a counter ad, can someone post it? They don't show it in the article.

Alex
07-23-04, 10:29 AM
Originally posted by Pedro's cuff
Here's the thing Alex. The Red Sox play it up too.

So what's the difference between the low lifes at the Boston Herald and the low lifes in the executive office on Yawkey Way?

I see. I'm recalling what you said in the other post about this stuff... interesting.

Whats "PM's"?

MaineSoxFan
07-23-04, 10:32 AM
Originally posted by Pedro's cuff


So what's the difference between the low lifes at the Boston Herald and the low lifes in the executive office on Yawkey Way?

Low lifes in the executive office on Yawkey Way? Bitter about something?

Freeway96
07-23-04, 10:35 AM
"A Big Apple newspaper has plunked a Doodle of a New York Yankees ad smack inside the pages of the Herald, a foray into enemy territory that will only rile the red-blooded denizens of Red Sox Nation."

LMFA-O!!! :lol:

oh man.. I thought new yorkers were specially cruel to their chants to nomar with "They don't want you~!"

this takes the cake.. talk about a slap right in the face.. imagine all bostonians who read the Herald barely getting their day started having their morning coffee.. they turn the page and see a full-page ad like this?!

LOL it's a LITERAL slap in the face! :) new york fans.. we're sumthin else!

NDBoston
07-23-04, 10:37 AM
Originally posted by Freeway96
"A Big Apple newspaper has plunked a Doodle of a New York Yankees ad smack inside the pages of the Herald, a foray into enemy territory that will only rile the red-blooded denizens of Red Sox Nation."

LMFA-O!!! :lol:

oh man.. I thought new yorkers were specially cruel to their chants to nomar with "They don't want you~!"

this takes the cake.. talk about a slap right in the face.. imagine all bostonians who read the Herald barely getting their day started having their morning coffee.. they turn the page and see a full-page ad like this?!

LOL it's a LITERAL slap in the face! :) new york fans.. we're sumthin else!

People in Boston "proper" don't read the Herald.

Pedro's cuff
07-23-04, 10:38 AM
Originally posted by MaineSoxFan


Low lifes in the executive office on Yawkey Way? Bitter about something?

No. Are you?

MaineSoxFan
07-23-04, 10:39 AM
Originally posted by Pedro's cuff


No. Are you?

Actually, no. But then again I'm not the one who is calling various individuals low lifes.

CrazyNY
07-23-04, 10:41 AM
One more nail in the coffin of the "New Yorkers don't care about this rivalry" argument.

The Herald's response (on the opposite page) said: "Screw the Curse. Go Sox! Kick their pinstriped butts!"

Freeway96
07-23-04, 10:42 AM
Originally posted by NDBoston


People in Boston "proper" don't read the Herald.

kinda sad considering the herald if i read that correctly is the only true real "local" paper you guys have published "locally"

:P whatever that means

Pedro's cuff
07-23-04, 10:42 AM
Originally posted by MaineSoxFan


Actually, no. But then again I'm not the one who is calling various individuals low lifes.

They are what they are.

Yankeeah
07-23-04, 10:49 AM
Is this ad also in the Daily News? I'm not sure if we get the Herald here.

MaineSoxFan
07-23-04, 10:51 AM
Originally posted by Pedro's cuff


They are what they are.

Are you referring to the owners? The GM? Someone else? I'm not sure how you made this assessment.

JeffWeaverFan
07-23-04, 10:52 AM
Pretty funny stuff by the Daily News. Of course, it wasn't as good as what the Post did earlier in the season.

wexy
07-23-04, 10:53 AM
All is fair in love and baseball. Although some editor may be in trouble in Boston.

Pedro's cuff
07-23-04, 10:54 AM
Originally posted by MaineSoxFan


Are you referring to the owners? The GM? Someone else? I'm not sure how you made this assessment.

I think that when you look at the past positions with other organizations, public statements, and actions of the ownership group it paints an extremely unflattering picture of the hand Red Sox fans have been dealt once again.

Essentially, they're turds.

Alex
07-23-04, 10:54 AM
Originally posted by CrazyNY
One more nail in the coffin of the "New Yorkers don't care about this rivalry" argument.


I don't think anybody has or should say that. This is the MAIN rivalry for the Yankees and we certainly do care very much about it. I think the argument that was being made on the board (which I didn't agree with) is that it isn't a real rivalry because of the lopsided results, and that it's only a rivalry to the fans. It didn't make sense to me, but it's certainly a different argument than you imply in your post.

NDBoston
07-23-04, 10:55 AM
Originally posted by Freeway96


kinda sad considering the herald if i read that correctly is the only true real "local" paper you guys have published "locally"

:P whatever that means

The New York Times owns the Globe, but it's published on Morrissey Blvd in Dorchester.

Anything else?

NDBoston
07-23-04, 10:56 AM
Originally posted by Pedro's cuff


I think that when you look at the past positions with other organizations, public statements, and actions of the ownership group it paints an extremely unflattering picture of the hand Red Sox fans have been dealt once again.

Essentially, they're turds.

you must have loved Bob Kraft in 1999.

MaineSoxFan
07-23-04, 10:57 AM
Originally posted by Pedro's cuff


I think that when you look at the past positions with other organizations, public statements, and actions of the ownership group it paints an extremely unflattering picture of the hand Red Sox fans have been dealt once again.

Essentially, they're turds.

Out of curiousity, how do you feel about Steinbrenner?

Pedro's cuff
07-23-04, 11:00 AM
He's bat**** crazy

Pedro's cuff
07-23-04, 11:01 AM
Originally posted by NDBoston


you must have loved Bob Kraft in 1999.

The difference being that Kraft learned his lesson with his first team while these guys are on their 2nd or 3rd teams and still don't get it.

CrazyNY
07-23-04, 11:02 AM
Originally posted by Alex


I don't think anybody has or should say that. This is the MAIN rivalry for the Yankees and we certainly do care very much about it. I think the argument that was being made on the board (which I didn't agree with) is that it isn't a real rivalry because of the lopsided results, and that it's only a rivalry to the fans. It didn't make sense to me, but it's certainly a different argument than you imply in your post. Actually, I should have been more clear. You're right, you don't hear that much here. I'm more referring to the people on the street who say things like this. Frequently in Boston you'll hear people (people who wish they live in NYC) say how Boston has this inferiority complex and New Yorkers don't care about what happens up here--then they'll site the Sox-Yankees as an example. If I remember correctly, Boston magazine even had a cover story about this last year. I also have plenty of friends in NY who make the same argument.

Alex
07-23-04, 11:02 AM
Originally posted by Pedro's cuff
He's bat**** crazy

I concur. But he's our nut, so Yankees fans have to circle the wagons, if you know what I mean. But he wants to win, so we're grateful.

Luciano
07-23-04, 11:03 AM
Originally posted by yanksrule69
Ha Ha Ha that is funny. Not as funny as when they flew the plane over Boston during the ALCS last year but it is still pretty good.:lol: :lol:

I think that was the Post. Or did they do something else? I know the Post did something last year.

As for the Daily News's picture, well, hee! They certainly love that drawing, since as far as I know, this is the third time they've whipped it out in under a year. They had it in the paper (not in color, though) the day after Game 7 last year (which is the one I have on my wall), they had it in the paper (in color) during the last Red Sox/Yankees game that took place in the Stadium (and told people to bring it to the game; I think they were used to count strike-outs), and now this. I don't know if it's in the Daily News today since I haven't picked it up yet but if it is, hee again.

Alex
07-23-04, 11:05 AM
Originally posted by CrazyNY
Actually, I should have been more clear. You're right, you don't hear that much here. I'm more referring to the people on the street who say things like this. Frequently in Boston you'll hear people (people who wish they live in NYC) say how Boston has this inferiority complex and New Yorkers don't care about what happens up here--then they'll site the Sox-Yankees as an example. If I remember correctly, Boston magazine even had a cover story about this last year. I also have plenty of friends in NY who make the same argument.

Hmmm... weird. I think people in general just think locally, you know. But baseball is the thing that ties these two cities together. Otherwise, it'd be just another city.

BTW, I lived in Boston for 2.5 years. I loved it. Still do. I loved everything about it except the team. :evil:

WakefieldsCrewSox
07-23-04, 11:15 AM
The Boston Herald sucks, ad or no ad. That is all.

WakefieldsCrewSox
07-23-04, 11:18 AM
Originally posted by CrazyNY


The Herald's response (on the opposite page) said: "Screw the Curse. Go Sox! Kick their pinstriped butts!"

That was their response? Good lord, thats lame.

StaceyRosie
07-23-04, 11:31 AM
That's it we're doomed we're gonna get swept again

Freeway96
07-23-04, 11:33 AM
Originally posted by StaceyRosie
That's it we're doomed we're gonna get swept again

yea but we knew that going in -.- my heart's screaming for a sweep but my mind knows better..

these pitching matchups absolutely murder us and favor the redsox completely.. the good thing is my expectations are so low I can't possibly be dissapointed :) sorta like one of my life philosophies..

"I'd rather be surprised than dissapointed"

PhilRizzuto'sCannoli
07-23-04, 11:41 AM
I love it!! I actually have the Curse Lives Ad posted on my wall and I'm looking at it right now.

The Curse Lives! :bad:

howzie
07-23-04, 11:42 AM
Originally posted by Pedro's cuff


I think that when you look at the past positions with other organizations, public statements, and actions of the ownership group it paints an extremely unflattering picture of the hand Red Sox fans have been dealt once again.

Essentially, they're turds.

Good Lord! Brilliant! Well thought out~!

*yawn*

Alex
07-23-04, 11:44 AM
Originally posted by howzie


Good Lord! Brilliant! Well thought out~!

*yawn*

Actually, Pedro's Cuff has very specific and researched feelings about ownership up there. He may have summarized his thoughts here because he doesn't feel like hashing through it all over again. But anyway....

Pedro's cuff
07-23-04, 11:47 AM
Originally posted by howzie


Good Lord! Brilliant! Well thought out~!

*yawn*

It's early yet. Especially on the west coast.

They'll be fine.

nufced1918
07-23-04, 01:17 PM
Originally posted by StaceyRosie
That's it we're doomed we're gonna get swept again

I knew you were a smart woman
:lol:

Should be a fun weekend in these parts, Democrats and Yankees

penfold
07-23-04, 01:39 PM
Ads like this just incite people to get too drunk and too rowdy at these games... Not cool, imho... and I love the Daily News.

nufced1918
07-23-04, 03:37 PM
Yup NY ignores us :lol:

I hope the Sox have copies given to every player. It is July

Want a reminder my NYY friends?

On this date in 1978



AL East
Team Name G W L PCT GB RS RA
Boston Red Sox 94 62 32 .659 - 502 381
Milwaukee Brewers 94 57 37 .606 5.0 495 387
New York Yankees 94 52 42 .553 10.0 411 368
Baltimore Orioles 96 53 43 .552 10.0 386 435
Detroit Tigers 96 49 47 .510 14.0 412 391
Cleveland Indians 94 45 49 .478 17.0 397 399
Toronto Blue Jays 96 35 61 .364 28.0 380 474



That is the great thing about baseball, ya never know

ask the 64 Phillies, the 51 Dodgers and yes the 78 Red Sox



http://www.nydailynews.com/ips_rich_content/391-BACK_BIG.jpghttp://www.nypost.com/images/back072304.gif

Alex
07-23-04, 03:43 PM
Originally posted by nufced1918
Yup NY ignores us :lol:

I hope the Sox have copies given to every player. It is July

Want a reminder my NYY friends?

On this date in 1978



AL East
Team Name G W L PCT GB RS RA
Boston Red Sox 94 62 32 .659 - 502 381
Milwaukee Brewers 94 57 37 .606 5.0 495 387
New York Yankees 94 52 42 .553 10.0 411 368
Baltimore Orioles 96 53 43 .552 10.0 386 435
Detroit Tigers 96 49 47 .510 14.0 412 391
Cleveland Indians 94 45 49 .478 17.0 397 399
Toronto Blue Jays 96 35 61 .364 28.0 380 474



That is the great thing about baseball, ya never know

ask the 64 Phillies, the 51 Dodgers and yes the 78 Red Sox



http://www.nydailynews.com/ips_rich_content/391-BACK_BIG.jpghttp://www.nypost.com/images/back072304.gif

You're right. Overconfidence makes me extremely nervous. But at least I know it's overconfidence on the fans part - and the media which just panders to fans. The players themselves, I believe and hope, would be smarter than that.

bakntime
07-23-04, 04:00 PM
Yes, we all know that the succes and failure of a major league baseball team lies in how overconfident the front page stories in the papers are :uhh:

Jersey Yankee
07-23-04, 04:30 PM
Originally posted by Alex
The article mentions that the Herald has a counter ad, can someone post it? They don't show it in the article. The only counter ad they could show would be the 1918 WS championship team.

Espinosa's Glasses
07-23-04, 04:37 PM
Originally posted by nufced1918
Yup NY ignores us :lol:

I hope the Sox have copies given to every player. It is July

Want a reminder my NYY friends?

On this date in 1978



AL East
Team Name G W L PCT GB RS RA
Boston Red Sox 94 62 32 .659 - 502 381
Milwaukee Brewers 94 57 37 .606 5.0 495 387
New York Yankees 94 52 42 .553 10.0 411 368
Baltimore Orioles 96 53 43 .552 10.0 386 435
Detroit Tigers 96 49 47 .510 14.0 412 391
Cleveland Indians 94 45 49 .478 17.0 397 399
Toronto Blue Jays 96 35 61 .364 28.0 380 474



That is the great thing about baseball, ya never know

ask the 64 Phillies, the 51 Dodgers and yes the 78 Red Sox






yeah... but that was the 78 Yankees... not the 2004 Sox... there is one big difference... the 78 Yankees were good

RhodeyYankee2638
07-23-04, 04:46 PM
Originally posted by Espinosa's Glasses



yeah... but that was the 78 Yankees... not the 2004 Sox... there is one big difference... the 78 Yankees were good

Ouch...... thats a low blow. I can see some similarities between the 78 Yanks and 04 Sox A dominant pitcher (Guidry/Schil), a pretty good cast of charachters up and down the lineup, one of the most feared hitters in the game (Reggie/Manny). The one X-Factor is that we had a closer that could close out games

NYCVirago
07-23-04, 05:18 PM
Originally posted by RhodeyYankee2638


Ouch...... thats a low blow. I can see some similarities between the 78 Yanks and 04 Sox A dominant pitcher (Guidry/Schil), a pretty good cast of charachters up and down the lineup, one of the most feared hitters in the game (Reggie/Manny). The one X-Factor is that we had a closer that could close out games

Well, the Red Sox manager has not yet "resigned" after drunkenly calling a star player a born liar, and an owner a convicted liar. And as far as I know, the Boston newspapers are not going on strike anytime soon. So I think the comparison only goes so far. ;)

Pedro's cuff
07-23-04, 05:31 PM
Originally posted by Espinosa's Glasses



yeah... but that was the 78 Yankees... not the 2004 Sox... there is one big difference... the 78 Yankees were good

The facts always seem to derail these cheeky comparisons.

For what it's worth, the 2004 Red Sox could be very good...if they gave a damn.

yogibear
07-23-04, 05:46 PM
It was funny but not as funny as Manny's cut off last night.:lol: :uhh:

YankeePride1967
07-23-04, 05:53 PM
Where is this "Red Sox Nation"? Is it north of Hartford or is it in the wonderful land of Oz? Do we bow and hail to the great Nation and bow allegience to some leader?:confused:

nufced1918
07-23-04, 07:36 PM
Originally posted by GoRocket
Where is this "Red Sox Nation"? Is it north of Hartford or is it in the wonderful land of Oz? Do we bow and hail to the great Nation and bow allegience to some leader?:confused:

yes our leader

http://webpages.charter.net/joekuras/wallnole.jpg

YankeePride1967
07-23-04, 09:11 PM
Originally posted by nufced1918


yes our leader

http://webpages.charter.net/joekuras/wallnole.jpg

LOL

SINCE77 2
07-23-04, 10:14 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Stupid Flanders
07-23-04, 10:15 PM
Originally posted by CrazyNY
One more nail in the coffin of the "New Yorkers don't care about this rivalry" argument.

The Herald's response (on the opposite page) said: "Screw the Curse. Go Sox! Kick their pinstriped butts!" This isn't "New Yorkers." It's a NY Paper. My guess is they set it all up with the Herald in advance and the Herald will take out an ad in the Daily News in a month or so.

Freeway96
07-24-04, 08:44 AM
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/story/215281p-185367c.html

peeps asked what the counter-ad looked like, there is is :)
weak retort by the herald :( they should've had their creative-art/pr/whatever dept handle the comeback

tdel23
07-24-04, 08:50 AM
Originally posted by nufced1918
Yup NY ignores us :lol:

I hope the Sox have copies given to every player. It is July

Want a reminder my NYY friends?

On this date in 1978



AL East
Team Name G W L PCT GB RS RA
Boston Red Sox 94 62 32 .659 - 502 381
Milwaukee Brewers 94 57 37 .606 5.0 495 387
New York Yankees 94 52 42 .553 10.0 411 368
Baltimore Orioles 96 53 43 .552 10.0 386 435
Detroit Tigers 96 49 47 .510 14.0 412 391
Cleveland Indians 94 45 49 .478 17.0 397 399
Toronto Blue Jays 96 35 61 .364 28.0 380 474



That is the great thing about baseball, ya never know

ask the 64 Phillies, the 51 Dodgers and yes the 78 Red Sox



http://www.nydailynews.com/ips_rich_content/391-BACK_BIG.jpghttp://www.nypost.com/images/back072304.gif


we are not the red sox, The Yankees don't choke up big leads like this

Alex
07-24-04, 09:05 AM
Originally posted by Freeway96
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/story/215281p-185367c.html

peeps asked what the counter-ad looked like, there is is :)
weak retort by the herald :( they should've had their creative-art/pr/whatever dept handle the comeback

Wow. That is the lamest retort I've ever seen. I don't even find the Bill Gallo Babe/Curse drawing all that creative either, but it's pretty audacious to buy a place for it in the Herald. The least that the Herald could do is put more than 2 minutes thought into a "response ad" and come up with something a little better than that. :rolleyes:

nufced1918
07-24-04, 09:58 AM
That IS the creative department of the Herald :lol:

http://www.nydailynews.com/ips_rich_content/827-curse_herald.JPG



Originally posted by Freeway96
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/story/215281p-185367c.html

peeps asked what the counter-ad looked like, there is is :)
weak retort by the herald :( they should've had their creative-art/pr/whatever dept handle the comeback

MiamiKat
07-24-04, 12:00 PM
Originally posted by nufced1918
That IS the creative department of the Herald :lol:

http://www.nydailynews.com/ips_rich_content/827-curse_herald.JPG




Yikes. That's really lame. Perhaps the Herald could bring over a few people from their sister publication, the NY Post.

The Post might be fishwrap, but it's usually entertaining fishwrap. :)

(And the banner they flew over Boston earlier in the season was pretty funny.)

Yankee Cowboy
07-24-04, 12:24 PM
Originally posted by NDBoston


People in Boston "proper" don't read the Herald.

that is ok ... they do not have to read it..... a picture is worth a thousand words...:lol: :lol:

:NY: :NY:

Buzah!
07-24-04, 12:26 PM
Originally posted by nufced1918
I really did not need to see this with my morning coffee

http://news.bostonherald.com/images/localRegional/20030723_babe_lg.jpg

A Big Apple newspaper has plunked a Doodle of a New York Yankees ad smack inside the pages of the Herald, a foray into enemy territory that will only rile the red-blooded denizens of Red Sox Nation. (http://news.bostonherald.com/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=36799) Yes, I suppose this time it really is the last straw... <P>again.

Buzah!
07-24-04, 12:30 PM
Originally posted by RhodeyYankee2638


Ouch...... thats a low blow. I can see some similarities between the 78 Yanks and 04 Sox A dominant pitcher (Guidry/Schil), a pretty good cast of charachters up and down the lineup, one of the most feared hitters in the game (Reggie/Manny). The one X-Factor is that we had a closer that could close out games Schilling is a great pitcher, but he is not having a Guidry in `78 season. Only Pedro has really had seasons like that one.

Dooley Womack
07-24-04, 01:25 PM
I love this portion of the article:

"a foray into enemy territory that will only rile the red-blooded denizens of Red Sox Nation. "

OK....they are riled. Now what? :lol:

Dooley Womack
07-24-04, 01:32 PM
Originally posted by bakntime
Yes, we all know that the succes and failure of a major league baseball team lies in how overconfident the front page stories in the papers are :uhh:

:lol:

Can you imagine Jeter saying, "O.K., we don't have to play on all cylinders now that we are up by9 1/2. Let's coast, fellas!"

Dooley Womack
07-24-04, 01:37 PM
Originally posted by tdel23



we are not the red sox, The Yankees don't choke up big leads like this

As a matter of fact the Yanks never "choked up" a 9 game lead. Ever.

It must suck to play for the wildcard year after year after year. To me, that would tarnish a champinship season. I know, we did it in 1997, but somehow I felt it wasn't as rewarding as when we won the division every other year.

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