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Heathnyy5
04-07-04, 03:39 AM
What are your top five worst losses remembered as Yankees fans? Although I have read a lot and due to that know much about the history of our Yankees, I am only 19 and have not seen much throughout the history of the Yankees. Since we as Yankees fans experience losing much less than winning, it is harder for us to deal with it. I wondered what people felt were the top 5 losses they watched the Yankees suffer over the years that hurt the worst.
The five worst losses I've ever seen while watching the Yankees are:
1.) Yankees vs Mariners (1995 ALDS game 5): Sticks out because I was only 10 at the time. I had never seen the Yankees in the playoffs in my lifetime, and being 9 when it happened, the strike had rolled right off my back. 1994 had been the first time I had checked the standings every day and I remember them being in first when the strike hit; so when the next season started I thought they'd go right back to the top of the league.
The wild card was their first playoff appearance in 15 years, and it was great as the Yankees took the first two games at the Stadium (the division format has since changed and if that series took place today games 4 and 5 would have been at the Stadium). Game 2 was a masterpiece that Leyritz won with a homerun in extra innings. When the Mariners came back to tie the series, the finale was set.
The game was amazing, and the Yankees took the lead in extra innings. But the Mariners came back to win it amazingly, saving baseball in Seattle and pretty much giving birth to the idea for Safeco Field in the process. I almost cried, and even at 10 that would have been embarrassing.
2.) Yankees vs Diamondbacks (2001 World Series game 7): Who can forget? Oh how fresh the pain still is from this one; and looking back on it, the Yankees shouldn't even have been in position to win that series, and yet they were. They had miraculously won games 4 and 5 (some all-time Yankees wins, which would have been higher on the list had game 7 not been a loss) and taken momentum going to Arizona, but it wasn't too last.
Everyone remembers the Yankees for not hitting in that series (and they didn't, which had less to do with Randy Johnson and Curt Schilling than from a genuine slump. Even Brian Anderson and Miguel Batista looked great against the Yankees in that series.) but what I remember is the lack of good pitching. Mussina had a whopper in game one, and Pettitte was medicore in game 2 and absolutely imploded on the mound in game 6. If one of those three games had been a true quality start, then game 7 wouldn't even have been necessary.
Yet in that game, the Yankees DID have quality pitching. Clemens outpitched the younger Schilling and the Yankees went into the bottom of the 8th up by one. In came Rivera who had a 1-2-3 inning; it looked like everything was in the bag. However, it wasn't meant to be; and while Luis Gonzalez's hit got all the press, to me (after Rivera's error) the big moment for the D-Backs was Tony Womack's double. That tied the game and gave the D-Backs the momentum firmly, just as the Yankees homeruns in the 9th of games 4 and 5 had done the same. Was there any doubt the Yankees would win games 4 and 5; none for me.
I felt the same when Womack knocked in the tying run; the momentum had switched SO strongly to Arizona because they didn't get the tying run in game 7 off of just any pitcher, but off Mariano Rivera, perhaps the greatest postseason pitcher (not just reliever, pitcher) to ever play the game. Gonzalez's hit was just the nail in the coffin, and the Yankees sat in silence, realizing that their amazing run had come to and end, and that the quest for 4 in a row had ended, but they held themselves like Champions to the end, realizing they didn't lose their crown, no one could take their three straight championships away from them, the Diamondbacks just won one championship their own.
As for me? I sat in stunned silence in the same spot I'd watched the game, staring into the emptiness of a blank TV that I turned off after the Yankees left the dugout. I sat there for a half hour thinking of the place in history of the Yankees 3 titles in a row; and that cushioned the blow a little. It wasn't until a few days later until I really forgot about how bad the loss had been, remembering instead the three that lead to it, and how great those were. But oh, how painful that game 7 was.
3.) Yankees vs Indians (1997 ALDS game 4 tie with game 5): It was a two game process. The euphoria of being on the verge of a second straight trip to the ALCS; (That was to be a big thing in the pre-dynasty days, 1996 didn't seem like the start of a dynasty) and the crash of the defense of the 1996 coming to an end the very next night.
The Yankees were 4 outs from proving yet again how a wildcard team could be very deadly in the short series. First year closer Mariano Rivera (pre-cut fastball...He relied on his high fastball in 96 as a set-up man and 97 as a closer) gave up a game tying home run to Sandy Alomar Jr. The Indians would score the winning run in the 9th to bring the series to a deciding game 5. In that game, rookie Indian pitcher Jaret Wright again beat up on the Yankees, and the game ended with Paul O'Neill stranded on the bases and the Yankees going home.
At first it was a little frightening wondering how Rivera would bounce back from that homerun to Alomar. But since then he has become the most dominant postseason pitcher ever. Quite an improvement from the first year closer who aimed for strikeouts to the veteran he is now who goes for broken bat groundouts and weak flies; one pitch is an easier out than three.
4.) Yankees vs Marlins (2003 World Series game 4): Pretty intense game, for a while thought to be Roger Clemens last in the majors. The Yankees trailed by 3 for most of the game, and 3-1 going into the 9th. That was when pinch hitter Ruben Siera hit a two run double and tied the game for the Yankees, seemingly handing them the 9th inning momentum they'd been handed so many times before. Only this time they didn't quite know what to do with it.
It was Aaron Boone, ALCS hero (although he had a pathetic series) who came to the plate in the 10th with a chance to take the lead on, at the least, a sac fly. Boone's inability to even get the ball out of the infield led to the Yankees resorting to Jeff Weaver. If Boone had driven in the go-ahead run, Rivera would have come in, and he was untouchable last postseason. Weaver survived the bottom of the 10th, but he and the Yankees wouldn't be so lucky in the 11th. Again being furstrated and held scoreless in the top of that inning by Braden Looper, the Yankees came in trying to just hold the Marlins for as long as they could. However, the first batter, Alex Gonzalez, hit a homerun that just barely escaped over the leftfield wall (it wouldn't have been a homerun in Yankee Stadium, perhaps just a fairly deep line out).
When the ball cleared the wall, the series went from 3-1 and in the Yankees firm grasp (could the Marlins have beaten them 3 in a row with 2 in a row at the Stadium? I don't think so) to tied at 2-2. It was anyone's series. However, it was game 5 that gave the Marlins the hold of the series for good as David Wells's back started spasming and Torre was left bewildered, having used nearly everything he had the night before in the extra inning game. The Yankees would lose game 5 and then the series; but it all turned in game 4 when Aaron Boone couldn't lift the ball out of the infield off Braden Looper.
It was a painful loss, the kind the Yankees have inflicted on teams so many times over the years. They went from being down and out in the 9th, to having the momentum in extras, to having been better off to never have tied it in the 9th in the first place (the pen would have been fresher for Torre the next night when Wells went down). The series turned in a bad loss for the Yankees; a hard one to swallow.
5.) Angels vs Yankees (2002 ALDS game 2): A come from behind win from the Angels that materialized during the late innings and would mark the overall frustration of that series. The Yankees held the lead late into the game and then the relentless; wait, wait, wait Angels offense pulled through and won the game, as a young pitcher named Francisco Rodriguez (with help from Ace Closer Troy Percival) held the Yankees high powered, 6 runs per game during that series, offense in check.
It was more painful and frustrating if taken as a series; the Angels would come back from deficits to win the next two games as well as game 2. During game 3 they just kept coming back, no matter how much the Yankees would punish the Angels starters, the Angels bullpen would hold; while both the Yankees bullpen and starters would not. But game 2 started it all, as it was the last time the Yankees were truly in control during the series. Once they lost that lead, every other lead vanished before it could stand for long enough to matter.
In retrospect the game was a microcosm of the series, and of the entire postseason for the Angels. The Angels would take the pesky, comeback at all costs ways to the World Series against the San Francisco Giants; and when they were thought to be down and out, down by five runs in game 6, they mounted to take the game and tie the series at 3 games a piece. And in the end they'd win the World Series; and yet it all started in game 2 of the series against the Yankees. That was when the heavily favored Yankees slipped and the Angels saw blood in the water.
They never looked back the rest of the way, and that was what led to the 2002 World Series Championship for the Anaheim Angels. One would figure that had game 2 stayed in the hands of the Yankees, championship 27 would have been toasted two years ago.
I'm sure other fans who're older than me will have much better losses to share, but those are mine, for what they're worth. They're recent enough that all of them should be remembered; even the one from way back in...(gasp) 1995; the PRE- Joe Torre era.
-Heath
bwill51
04-08-05, 01:45 PM
Top 5 losses
1) Game 7 2004 ALCS-Enough said.
2) Game 3 1980 ALCS-Losing to the Kansas City Royals, a team that Yanks had battled with previously. George Brett was to those Yanks what David Ortiz is to them, now.
3) Game 3, 4, 5, 6 of the 1981 World Series-Two words: George Frazier. If some Yankee fans are bemoaning Mo's last two days, well, go back and watch tape of George Frazier in 1981. Make you cringe.
4) Game 7 of 1955 World Series-Losing to the hated Dodgers for the first time.
5) August 2, 1979-Death of Thurman Munson. I was 7 when that happened. Only as I got older do I realize what affect that must have had on his team and especially Jerry Narron, Thurman's replacement their first game back. That team was a two time defending champion and to lose their captain, heart and soul, well, it must have been awful inside that clubhouse. RIP #15
Bozidar
04-08-05, 02:02 PM
What are your top five worst losses remembered as Yankees fans? Well, it's like this:
1) My grandfather. He was a special guy, and also a big yankee fan -- a big reason i'm a fan.
2) My grandmother. An angel of a lady, a saint.
3) My first dog, Scruffy -- not a pleasant animal, but i was very attached
4) My second dog, Princess -- an incredible and sweet creature, lost her to cancer at 7.5 years old.
5) My virginity -- it wasn't a great experience, wish i could have a do-over on that one.
1. Thurman
2. Mickey
3. Billy
4. Catfish
5. Games 4-7 of 2004 ALCS
RhodyYanksFan
04-08-05, 02:04 PM
Of my lifetime (24 years old):
1. 2004 ALCS game 7
2. 2001 WS game 7
3. 1995 ALDS game 5
4. 2003 WS game 6
5. 2004: 22-0 vs Indians (just to be different)
of all time I'd put 1960 WS game 7, game after Munson died (although I think they won), 1976 World Series sweep, and probably April 30, 1939 (Lou Gehrig didn't play) even though they blew out the Tigers.
5. 2004: 22-0 vs Indians (just to be different)
I didn't really feel so terrible over that one. Sure, I wanted to puke by the 5th inning, but the whole game sort of felt like a train wreck... I couldn't look away for some reason. Those are my memories of Vazquez and Loaiza now.
1) 2001 World Series, Game 7 - No crying in baseball... no crying in baseball...
2) 2003 World Series, Game 6 - even though I could tell the Yankees weren't going to win the WS, it was so painful to watch the offense succumb to Beckett.
3) 2004 ALCS - no comment...
4) 1997 ALDS, Game 5.
5) 2002 ALDS, Game 2.
BronxByTheBay
04-08-05, 02:37 PM
The worst loss for me will always be game 7 of the 2001 WS. After watching two of the most amazing baseball games of my life, the idea that we would go back to AZ and lose the final two...devastating. It was Mo's first huge defeat (much worse than Cleveland in '97), and the script being written required that the Yanks win that series and have a parade down the Canyon of Heroes.
RIyankee
04-08-05, 03:39 PM
The worst loss for me will always be game 7 of the 2001 WS. After watching two of the most amazing baseball games of my life, the idea that we would go back to AZ and lose the final two...devastating. It was Mo's first huge defeat (much worse than Cleveland in '97), and the script being written required that the Yanks win that series and have a parade down the Canyon of Heroes.
I felt nauseous after that game.
For me, getting swept by KC 3-0 in the 1980 ALCS and losing to LA in the 1981 WS. We had the better team in both years. What a waste of two promising years. From 1977-1981, we could have won 4 of 5.
survelvn
04-08-05, 03:48 PM
I'm also 19 years old...
For it's:
1) Game 7, 2001 World Series
2) Games 4-7, 2004 ALCS
3) Game 5, 1997 ALDS
4) Game 4, 2002 ALDS
5) Game 5, 1995 ALDS
Meecham4ever
04-08-05, 04:03 PM
I felt nauseous after that game.
For me, getting swept by KC 3-0 in the 1980 ALCS and losing to LA in the 1981 WS. We had the better team in both years. What a waste of two promising years. From 1977-1981, we could have won 4 of 5.
How that team didn't win more than two is beyond me. And right after that, George started acting silly and wacky, (silacky), and went after Dave Collins and the like.
That said....last year was still the worst for me.
ConnYanksFan
04-08-05, 04:06 PM
1. 2001 World Series Game 7
2. 2004 ALCS Games 4-7
3. 2003 World Series Games 5 and 6
4. 2002 ALDS
5. 2004 22-0 Loss to Cleveland- I don't think I've ever been laughed at so many times in my life as the day after that game.
Casey37
04-08-05, 04:15 PM
1. Thurman Munson (NOTHING can compare to that)
2. 2004 ALCS game 7
3. 2001 WS game 7
4. 1995 ALDS game 5
5. Mickey Mantle
bwill51
04-08-05, 04:16 PM
How that team didn't win more than two is beyond me. And right after that, George started acting silly and wacky, (silacky), and went after Dave Collins and the like.
That said....last year was still the worst for me.
You mean you did'nt enjoy the Steve Kemp experiment?
I'll never forgive Steinbrenner for letting go of Reggie. I think one of the greatest moments was watching Reggie homer off Gator as an Angel his first time back. I firmly believe that Gator grooved one in there.
daverave
04-08-05, 04:24 PM
For you older fans and with the benefit of hindsight, the Game 7 loss to StL in the 1964 WS has to rank up there because it marked the start of the most difficult period of Yankee fandom EVER coming right after the greatest period!
My biggest fear is that forty years later "The Loss That Must Not Be Spoken Of" could conceivably mark the beginning of another tough streak if age/injuries suddenly catch up to this team. :eek:
YankeePride1967
04-08-05, 04:31 PM
1. Games 4-7 in 2004 (to me it is one big loss)
2. Game 5 of the 1995 ALDS
3. Game 7 of the 2001 WS
yanksconstantino24
04-08-05, 04:56 PM
1) Game 7 of the 2001 World Series
2) Game 5 of the 1997 ALDS
3) Game 2 of the 1998 ALCS (the one w/ the Knoblauch play)
4) Game 7 of the 2004 ALCS
5) Game 6 of the 2003 World Series
Game 7 of the 2004 ALCS should be higher up on that list, especially b/c we wound up winning the 1998 ALCS despite Chuck's brain collapse. But, from 1996-2001, I was a young teenager, and the Yankees were all I cared about. The 1998 team was by far my favorite, it hurt everytime they lost a game. That didn't happen too much. I loved those teams passionately, and it tore me apart when they lost their last game together. I will always love the Yankees, and care about them, but if they lose, my life still has to go on.
nhyankeefan
04-08-05, 05:02 PM
1) Game 7 WS 2001
2) Game 7 ALCS 2004
3) Game 6 WS 1981
4) Game 5 ALDS 1995
5) Game 6 WS 2003
AlongCameAPrincess
04-08-05, 05:04 PM
I'm 21 sooo... My memory is quite limited.
A "wound" that has not closed and probably never will: Game 7, 2001 WS v. Arizona
I felt like the world had just ended. It was crushing and just plain brutal. That's my #1, #2, #3, etc... I will never forget that night.
VFBundy
04-08-05, 05:19 PM
Game 4s haven't been the greatest, IMO:
1. Game 7 - 2001 WS (first by a mile)
2. Game 5 - 1995 ALDS
3. Game 4 - 1997 ALDS
4. Game 4 - 2004 ALCS
5. Game 5 - 2004 ALCS
6. Game 4 - 1981 WS
7. Game 4 - 1995 ALDS
8. Game 4 - 2003 WS
Given2Fly8
04-08-05, 05:24 PM
1.) Yankees vs Mariners (1995 ALDS game 5): Sticks out because I was only 10 at the time. I had never seen the Yankees in the playoffs in my lifetime, and being 9 when it happened, the strike had rolled right off my back. 1994 had been the first time I had checked the standings every day and I remember them being in first when the strike hit; so when the next season started I thought they'd go right back to the top of the league.
1995 was the most disappointing for me as well. I was very excited about watching the Yankees in the postseason, I even taped Sterling's call when the Yankees clinched the wild card! After they went up 2-0, visions of the Yankees in the ALCS danced through my head... somewhat novel idea back then. ;)
After the game, I felt like that was their shot and they missed it. Mattingly was retiring, and I thought if they let Showalter go they'd slip back into mediocrity (obviously, I was wrong).
Watching it all unfold at the Kingdome was tough too.. that crowd was so loud I ended up muting the TV by the end.
Stick Michael
04-08-05, 05:30 PM
Here are my picks:
#1 - Game 5, 1995 ALDS
#2 - Game 5, 2004 ALCS
#3 - Game 7, 2004 ALCS
#4 - Game 7, 2001 WS
#5 - Game 5, 2003 WS
James
Heathnyy5
04-08-05, 07:54 PM
Wow, I posted this almost exactly a year ago, and no one responded until now. I posted this at the beginning of last season, a time when a chant of "1918" still had meaning with Boston fans. I don't think that I could even start a thread now, because I don't think I have enough posts. My list, considering what has happened, seems pretty out of date since that series.
Anyway, I'm not going to update my list or anything (because everyone else's list has the Red Sox series on it) I just want to say to the person posting the loss of family members, I just hope you don't consider such a list as this one shallow. It is not meant to belittle the losses we've had in real life, just to talk about the ones we've witnessed as sports fan. Losing to Boston is a LOT less painful than losing a loved one. I was 19 when I posted this (so obviously, I'm 20 now) and I had already witnessed the death of my best friend when we were both 15. He was perhaps the biggest Yankees fan I knew, so he would be my biggest loss; but we're talking about games here. If we speak about personal loss, it would just get to be a depressing and upsetting thread.
As for Yankees losses, sure they stink, but having a team that has won more championships than any other team in North American Sports history makes the painful losses that stick out all the more interesting. If we can remember particular losses through the victories, it means we can still enjoy winning. I for one things a tough loss resonates more than a great victory. A great victory is a relief (or a joy, if the team is the underdog), but the feeling wears off more quickly than that of a tough loss. 1995, 1997, 2001-2004 have some bad memories that hopefully will only make the next World Championship a more enjoyable experience.
This one goes to 11
04-08-05, 09:35 PM
Everyone remembers the Yankees for not hitting in that series (and they didn't, which had less to do with Randy Johnson and Curt Schilling than from a genuine slump.
You can't be serious.
:wtf:
IronCaballo4
04-08-05, 10:45 PM
1) 22-0
2) 22-0
3) 22-0
4) 22-0
5) 22-0
why? I was there :argh:
yeahimweird
04-08-05, 10:49 PM
1.) Game 7 of the '01 WS
2.) 2004 ALCS :barf:
3.) Game 5 of the '95 ALDS
4.) Game 5 of the '97 ALDS
5.) Game 6 of the '03 WS
dabomb2045
04-08-05, 11:21 PM
1) Games 4-7 of 2004 ALCS
2) Games 4-6 of 2003 WS
3) Games 4-5 of 1995 ALDS
4) Game 7 2001 WS
5) Games 3-4 2002 ALDS
Heathnyy5
04-09-05, 12:15 AM
You can't be serious.
:wtf:
Yes, I am serious. When the Yankees (who still had a great lineup, even though it doesn't have anywhere near the power it does today) were getting beaten by Brian Anderson and Miguel Batista, who were holding them to nothing, that shows they were in a huge funk.
Sure, Schilling and Randy Johnson were amazing, but the 2001 World Series could easily have ended in 5 games, 4 games to 1 for the D-Backs. In that equation, Schilling would win 2 games, RJ 1, and Miguel Batista another. The Yankees couldn't slove anybody except Kim in that series, and to me that shows more about their own lineup than the dominance of Arizona's staff.
David Justice, Bernie Williams, and many others were colder than ice. It just wasn't going to happen for them, and that was why everyone said the Yankees needed new pop in the lineup, not just because Johnson and Schilling could figure out the Yankees, but because Brian Anderson and Miguel Batista didn't do so bad either.
But like I said in my post a year ago (and still believe) the Yankees awful offense covered their terrible pitching. Mike Mussina and Andy Pettitte were terrible in two huge games, only Roger Clemens showed consistency. Mussina was out of game 1 by what, the 3rd inning? And Pettitte left game 6 in what, the 2nd? Pettitte even had a chance to CLOSE OUT the D-Backs in game 6, a chance he didn't take advantage of.
Sure, Johnson was on the mound for Arizona, but I'd be much more sympathetic to Pettitte if he did what he did in 2003, allowing only 2 runs in game 6. Those two runs weren't enough to beat Beckett that night, and they might not have been enough to beat Johnson (who knows how things would have gone if Pettitte had let up 2? Johnson probably would have pitched a complete game 1 hitter or something), but at least they'd have had a shot.
The next night, even though Schilling went for Arizona, Clemens countered him. He kept them close, and they were able to take the lead. Even though Schilling and Johnson pitched for the D-Backs, their run support in games 1 and 6 was outstanding, and much more than they needed. That series was a terrible one all around for the Yankees. Clemens (if they won) might have been their MVP, or (possibly) Rivera. He blew that save at the end, but prior to that he was one of their only reliable players.
The hitters couldn't do a THING against anyone not named Kim (they could easily have lost in game 6 at Bank One if Brenly didn't bring Kim out the next night to try and right him, or game 5 at Yankee Stadium if he didn't come out at all). You can't credit RJ and Schilling for Batista and Anderson excelling against a Yankees lineup that was quite similar to the one that was the three-time defending champions.
That lineup had Soriano, Jeter, Williams, O'Neill, Martinez, Justice, Knoblauch, Brosius, and Posada; which was a lineup good enough for the Yankees to beat the A's with their pitching, and to get past the mighty 116 win Mariners. RJ and Schilling silencing those bats was something that was considered going into the series.
But the Yankees thought to attack them the same way they STILL try to attack great pitchers: have their star hold them close while they chip away. They knew if they could do that, and win only 2 of 5 games started by that pair, they could win the series as long as their offense could come through against the lesser pitchers.
However, their offense died against the lesser pitchers in the two games they had a chance (two games they STILL managed to win) and their pitching died in two games against the great pitchers (games 1 and 6). It is incredible to me that the Yankees were in a position to win game 7 during that series. Almost as incredible as them being close to sweeping Boston with a team that had a decimated bullpen, and a staff that had Brown starting game 3 and a dead armed El Duque going in game 4.
Things came back to bite the Yankees both times. Against Boston, they had won 3 games in a row against Boston as everything went right for them, and everything went wrong for Boston. Then, at the peak of Boston's badluck, Rivera (dead tired from throwing more innings than ever in his career) walked the leadoff hitter, and that lead to everything that followed. Boston's win lead to new confidence and the luck swung around to them.
With Arizona, they outplayed the Yankees ALL series, and sat facing the bottom of the 9th of game 7, ready to lose. Rivera had dominated them that series (and again, had at that time pitched more innings than ever in his career up to that point; though I'm making no excuses) and they were stunned at the thought of losing a series they had so thoroughly dominated. If they Yankees had won, it would have been like the opposite of the 1960 World Series, when the Yankees destroyed the Pirates in 3 games, lost in 3 close ones, and lost the last close one in game 7 on Mazeroski's homer.
The fact is, as great as RJ and Schilling were then, the Yankees were utterly dominated. They honestly lost to the better team in that situation, a situation where for once experience couldn't help them get past a team that had more talent.
Their pitching betrayed them, and their hitters couldn't touch Brian Anderson or Miguel Batista; the dynasty was ripe for the picking. Getting it to game 7 was incredibly impressive, under the circumstances and perhaps in the years that pass we'll realize how amazing it was for the Yankees, battered by age and injuries, to have made it one inning away from a fourth straight World Championship on the strength of their will alone.
We live in a society that appreciates only the winners and doesn't even remember the losers of championships. However, when the Yankees fell to Arizona it was viewed as Goliath losing to David because of the Yankees track record, when really one superior team managed to just hang on against a team that it should have already beaten.
As time goes by, despite the fact that we honor winners and forget losers, we should at least realize how amazing our team was between 1996-2001; a team that was so good and so experienced it was almost able to beat a D-Backs team that might have had the best 1-2 punch of all-time with only grit, experience, determination, Clemens and Rivera, and a good amount of luck (call it mystique and aura if you will). That was all they had, and they almost won with it.
IncredibleByNature
04-09-05, 02:22 AM
I'm 20 yrs. old, so for me it would be...
1. Game 7 of the 2001 WS - I was left speechless.
2. Games 4-7 of the 2004 ALCS - Nothing needs to be said.
3. Game 5 of the 1997 ALDS - It was my first year following the team...disappointing end to the season.
4. Game 6 of the 2003 WS - I didn't even bother watching Posada make the last out...
5. Games 2-4 of the 2002 ALDS - I live 15 mins. from Angels Stadium...yeah...
TheMick@ND
04-09-05, 09:17 AM
I agree with the losses put up here so far and I'm only 23 but from talking to my dad and reading a couple of Mickey's books, 1960 aka the Mazeroski walkoff was pretty painful, my dad was listening to the game on the radio in his tractor (yes I'm a hick from Colorado) and turned it off and headed home after Yogi hit the supposed game winning home run only to find out that the weak Pirates offense and Bill Mazeroski of all people had come back and won.
We outscored them by a huge amount that series and Mickey claims we were way better, but that's baseball I guess. Just thought I'd throw that out there.
patrick.o
04-09-05, 09:43 AM
1) Game 5, '95 ALDS
2) Not getting to see the '94 Yankees make the playoffs.
Nothing else is close to those two.
Dooley Womack
04-09-05, 04:14 PM
The worst loss for me will always be game 7 of the 2001 WS. After watching two of the most amazing baseball games of my life, the idea that we would go back to AZ and lose the final two...devastating. It was Mo's first huge defeat (much worse than Cleveland in '97), and the script being written required that the Yanks win that series and have a parade down the Canyon of Heroes.
Same here. 2004 doesn't compare, Red Sox or no Red Sox.
I don't obsess on which team it was against. All I know is that we were 3 outs from the world championship in 2001.
Dooley Womack
04-09-05, 04:17 PM
The worst loss for me will always be game 7 of the 2001 WS. After watching two of the most amazing baseball games of my life, the idea that we would go back to AZ and lose the final two...devastating. It was Mo's first huge defeat (much worse than Cleveland in '97), and the script being written required that the Yanks win that series and have a parade down the Canyon of Heroes.
Same here. 2004 doesn't compare, Red Sox or no Red Sox.
I don't obsess on which team it was against. All I know is that we were 3 outs, facing the bottom of AZ's lineup, from the world championship in 2001. I thought the game was in the bag, considering we NEVER saw a Mo meltdown like that before, not even in '97. Plus he looked so dominant in the 8th inning of that game and throughout the series.
IncredibleByNature
04-09-05, 04:18 PM
Same here. 2004 doesn't compare, Red Sox or no Red Sox.
I don't obsess on which team it was against. All I know is that we were 3 outs from the world championship in 2001.
Agreed, Dools. Watching that bloop fall in...I couldn't believe it was all over and we weren't walking away the winners... Oh well...
Dooley Womack
04-09-05, 04:21 PM
Agreed, Dools. Watching that bloop fall in...I couldn't believe it was all over and we weren't walking away the winners... Oh well...
I swear, Jo, I was in shock for days....as if it was only a dream.
I remember when Sori put us ahead, and Mo was mowing them down easily in the 8th (3 K's), calling my sis and telling her "it's over!" She remained on the line in the 9th and there was silence on both ends. I felt sick.
IncredibleByNature
04-09-05, 04:27 PM
I swear, Jo, I was in shock for days....as if it was only a dream.
I remember when Sori put us ahead, and Mo was mowing them down easily in the 8th (3 K's), calling my sis and telling her "it's over!" She remained on the line in the 9th and there was silence on both ends. I felt sick.
I cried that night into my pillow. I have no problem admitting it. It hurt. To have those 3 amazing wins in the Bronx, and not win it all for the city after what had happened in Sept...it was really tough.
When Sori hit that HR, I was on top of the world. But Mo...*sigh* Total silence after Gonzo dropped that one in.
penguin4
04-09-05, 04:48 PM
1) 22-0
2) 22-0
3) 22-0
4) 22-0
5) 22-0
why? I was there :argh:
So was I, and up until this point I'd forgotten about it. Thanks for reminding me. :mad:
Getting no-hit by six different Astros pitchers was pretty pitiful, as well, though.
But those were *nothing* compared to the 2004 ALCS. How the hell do you lose a series you're up 3-0?? Six months later, I'm still in shock. Oh, the pain! The pain!!!
2001 was upsetting, but I don't think I was *as* upset, only because it had been such an incredible playoff run and the way we beat Oakland and then those smug Seattle Mariners into submission, and then those games in the Bronx, we'd done so much already, that even though we lost, I have to look back on that October/November with a smile on my face, because New York had a helluva ride and a helluva reason to be happy again for the first time since the towers went down.
dabomb2045
04-09-05, 05:16 PM
I dont see how losing in 2001 could be worse then 2004....I mean i guess we all take things differently but the way I see it....
2001 we really were severly outplayed in that series....our offense was totally non-existent....the only pitcher we did anything against was Kim....we couldnt even hit Miguel Batista for god sakes....we had 2 miracle comebacks in Games 4 and 5....but we really got outplayed
and even though Mo did blow the lead in Game 7....we were coming off 3 straight championships in a row....so yeah it sucked that we lost....but you cant win it every year
2004...we were going on 4 years without a title....THOROUGHLY outplayed the Sox in Games 1-3....our pen blew Games 4 and 5....the man with the bloody sock shut us down in Game 6....then we just didnt even show up for Game 7....up 3-0 in complete control, only to pull the biggest choke job in MLB history and lose 4 in a row....the last 2 coming in your own stadium against your archrivals
that was sheer torture
CuzzinDave
04-21-05, 07:50 PM
I won't even bother with 5 of them, because I could get over all the other ones...
I have but ONE loss
October 20, 2004...ALCS...Game 7...It is the only playoff game I've ever seen live and can't imagine a worse nightmare in my life. I kept trying to wake myself up so it would end. I was a zombie for days after, I never thought I would live to see those morons celebrate on our field, let alone live to see it LIVE.
If there was ever a night I wanted to crawl into a hole, that was it. People in my family still blame me for the loss...my nickname at home is PopPop, which is what my grandson calls me and now everyone is calling it PopPop's Curse.
We even have the official picture of me touching the Babe's monument like Clemens used to,on the night of Game 7. It hangs on all my kid's walls with the words POP POP's CURSE on it...
They all say it's where the curse was transferred!
PoughVirginiaYankee
04-21-05, 08:47 PM
Wow...that 1995 Seattle game - that series is my first lasting memory of the Yankees - Im only 19 now....but I kinda love that fact, right before the big run - that game was pretty depressing - I remember watching and my family just being sooo upset.
The 2001 WS game 7 - I watched that and a WS special on ESPN, or YES?, a few months ago. My dad came by and looked at me like I was crazy. I told him maybe it would change this time, but it didn't. That was pretty tough. Especially after the comebacks and all.
I'm not even touching last year's Red Sox games....didn't the rest of the playoffs get canceled after game 3 of the ALCS last year?
GHRuth3
04-21-05, 11:16 PM
my top one was 2001 WS. They were putting the champange in the locker room for god sakes! alls i remember is sitting there speechless holding back tears. DID MO JUST DO THAT?? is what i was thinking. never had i seen the yankees lose the WS, after everything ny had been thru and those 2 great games i thought it was meant to be, i guess ti wasnt :mad: , it was still the greatest world series i have ever seen.but this years epic collapse is very close, i dont even want to talk about it, because if i do alls i hear is red sox fans running their god damn mouths. :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh:
hobokenfish
04-21-05, 11:16 PM
1) 2004 ALCS Game 7 (and I was there :( )
2) 1995 ALDS Game 5 (we were so close, and I felt so bad for Mattingly)
3) 1997 ALDS Game 5 (heartbreaker to see O'Neill give his all and get stranded at 2B)
4) 2001 World Series Game 7 (hey, we had won three in a row, and had two amazing comebacks at home; devastating, but tempered by the recent successes)
5) 1981 World Series Game 6 (they had won the first two games, but then lost the next 4; I got to go to my first World Series game for Game 6, and cried the whole way home)
penguin4
04-21-05, 11:40 PM
I realized that this thread was started in April of 2004... and some fool dug it up this season.
My my, if only we knew then.... still wouldn't've prepared me for last October, though.:(
26 and counting
04-21-05, 11:54 PM
October 20th 2004. We were never even in the game. It was over before we even batted in the 2nd inning. In boxing, when a guy is being pummelled early, the referee steps in and stops the fight. This doesn't happen in baseball. The Yankees were knocked out in the 2nd inning and then dragged around the field for three hours until Sierra grounded out.
Plus, we were humiliated by our biggest rival in a loss of historic, epic proportions.
GraniteYankee
04-22-05, 03:30 AM
1) 2004 ALCS
2) 1981 WS - my best friend was a Dodger fan - ugh!
3) 2001 WS
4) 2003 WS
5) 1997 DS
ToneinTO
04-22-05, 08:07 AM
For me, getting swept by KC 3-0 in the 1980 ALCS and losing to LA in the 1981 WS. We had the better team in both years. What a waste of two promising years. From 1977-1981, we could have won 4 of 5.
I remember '80 and '81 like it was yesterday. It still pisses me off. Besides those two, I'd go with game seven of the 2001 series, the loss to the Mariners in '95, the loss to Cleveland in '97, and the loss to Toronto in the 160th game in '85 that cost the Yankees the division. They won 97 games that year and would have given the Royals a good fight in the AL Championship series.
People may disagree, but I feel that the postponement of the 1994 season ranks right up there also, because that was the best team Mattingly played on, and the Yankees would have gone to the World Series that year.
YanksForLife
04-22-05, 09:23 AM
1. Mickey Mantle
2. Game 7 2001 World Series
3. 2004 ALCS
4. 2003 World Series
5. 1995 ALDS (I would rank this higher since it was the first time in my life the Yanks made the playoffs but it was followed up by one hell of a run.)
1. 1995 ALDS, donnie's last game
2. 2001 World Series
3. 2004 ALCS
4. 1986 Clemens beating Mattingly for MVP
5. 1997 ALDS
From a 29-year-old:
1. 2001 WS, Game 7. I still have nightmares about that game, to this day. Mo throwing the ball into centerfield, Counsell leaning into the pitch...I wake up in a cold sweat. I have never in my life been more depressed than I was after this game.
2. 2004 ALCS, Game 4. Even though the Yanks were still up 3-1 after this one, the feeling of dread started. A 4 pitch walk to Kevin Millar? No excuse.
3. 1995 ALDS, Game 5. Why did you leave McDowell in there, Buck? Why???
4. 1995 ALDS, Game 4. Oh, that's why.
5. 10/5/85 vs. Toronto. Shane Cowley can't get out the 3rd inning, and the Blue Jays clinch on the second to last day of the season, ending one of Don Mattingly's best chances to make the playoffs.
Born in the Bronx
04-22-05, 10:13 AM
In no particular order.
1981 WS
1995 ALDS
2001 WS
2003 WS
2004 ALCS
Thurman Munson's death was a big loss too. I was at the game that was played right after the funeral. Bobby Murcer's home run landed two rows in back of me. I can still remember the ball spinning as it went over my head. I was 12.
Irabu's Son
04-22-05, 11:28 AM
Heath (thread starter), you're a good writer.
Irabu's Son
04-22-05, 11:34 AM
5) My virginity -- it wasn't a great experience, wish i could have a do-over on that one.
I guarantee my story would make you cringe. Oh, the horror...
JfromJersey
04-22-05, 12:09 PM
The worst for me was game 7 of the 2001 WS. Why? Because the Yankees still had the aura of invincibility then, and Mr. Invincible himself was on the mound. The feeling was of shock, followed by disbelief, followed by nausea, followed by depression for about a week.
Next worse for me was last year, watching the hated Red Sox celebrate on hallowed ground. The pain was more because of the opponent, and magnitude of the collapse, but I don't consider it as bad as the 2001 WS loss because after letting the Sox come back from the dead to tie the series up, and knowing Brown was on the mound, I had little doubt that the "idiots" would win. So there was really no shock or disbelief. Just disgust and depression.
I'm older than most of you, and I have to say that game 7 of the 1960 WS, would be next on my list. That was the year I became a Yankee fan, and the Pirates really had no business being on the same field as that Yankee team, let alone beating them.
Next would be game 5 of the 1995 ALDS, more because it was Donnie's first and only crack at the PS, and he played his heart out, and I didn't like the Mariners that year.
Finally, I would say losing to the Cards in the 1964 WS, because it was Mantle's swan song as a great Yankee.
NewEraYanks2527
04-22-05, 02:50 PM
Its way to painful for me to talk about worst losses.
Sultans of Swing
04-22-05, 07:44 PM
The worst loss for me will always be game 7 of the 2001 WS. After watching two of the most amazing baseball games of my life, the idea that we would go back to AZ and lose the final two...devastating. It was Mo's first huge defeat (much worse than Cleveland in '97), and the script being written required that the Yanks win that series and have a parade down the Canyon of Heroes.
Agree totally. Boston was bound to win one eventually. But after 9/11, and knowing that we were watching Paulie's last days roaming the outfield...we were supposed to win that one...
No other game has made me cry. I was simply disgusted by game 7 of the 2004 ALCS. But I was crushed after 2001. That was OUR year. :(
diehardyankeefan
04-22-05, 07:53 PM
The Yankees only socred 14 runs. The Diamondbacks scored 15 runs in Game 6, 1 more than we had in the whole series. We were 3 outs away from 27, but we loss. That was really heartbreaking and I always think about what would of happened if we won it in 2001.
hellonewman
04-23-05, 01:31 AM
1. 2004 ALCS Game 7. THE. WORST.
2. 1980 ALCS Game 3, to get swept by the Royals. I couldn't believe it, for weeks I kept dreaming there was another game left.
3. 1981 World Series Game 3. Up 2 Games to 0, had a 4-3 lead, bases loaded, Fernando Valenzuela on the ropes, Reggie Jackson sitting on the bench ready to pinch hit, and Bob Lemon sends up GEORGE FRICKIN FRAZIER to bat for himself. Dodgers rally, win the game, and the collapse begins. Brutal.
4. 1997 ALDS Game 5. I didn't sleep all night after that one.
5. A 3-game home series sweep at the hands of the Orioles in September 1974. The first time in my life the Yankees seriously contended, and this series effectively lost it for us. Still bugs me.
Agree totally. Boston was bound to win one eventually. But after 9/11, and knowing that we were watching Paulie's last days roaming the outfield...we were supposed to win that one...
No other game has made me cry. I was simply disgusted by game 7 of the 2004 ALCS. But I was crushed after 2001. That was OUR year. :(
That's how I feel as well. I felt like I was hit by a truck for days after that night in 2001. I guess my emotions were still so raw at that point in time, I was extremely depressed. Last year, I was just ticked off.
DuqueRocks264Evr
04-23-05, 09:55 AM
5/ June 2003 vs. Astros, 6-Man No-Hitter :jaw-drop:
4/ 1995 ALDS Game 5, Losing To Griffey Of All People Will Always Leave A
Sour Taste
3/ 2001 WS Game 7, The Start Of A Long, Cold, Depressing Winter
2/ 2004 ALCS Game 7, Like Watching A Train Wreck
1/ 2004 ALCS Game 4, I Honestly Fell In The Floor In The 9th, Knowing We
Had All We Could Handle Coming At Us Then
5/ June 2003 vs. Astros, 6-Man No-Hitter :jaw-drop:
4/ 1995 ALDS Game 5, Losing To Griffey Of All People Will Always Leave A
Sour Taste
3/ 2001 WS Game 7, The Start Of A Long, Cold, Depressing Winter
2/ 2004 ALCS Game 7, Like Watching A Train Wreck
1/ 2004 ALCS Game 4, I Honestly Fell In The Floor In The 9th, Knowing We
Had All We Could Handle Coming At Us Then
That's funny. That No-Hitter didn't affect me at all. Not even a tiny bit. The way I see it, if more teams tried bringing out fresh arms out of the pen, before the starter was touched-up by any hits, more teams could piece together no-hitters with 6 guys comprised of stoppers & closers. I didn't see it as some amazing feat.
Casey at the Bat
04-23-05, 10:44 PM
I know I am not a yankee fan... (not even close) but game 7 of the 2001 WS has to be tops in most people's lists. I remember watching that game, all pissed-off cause the Yankees were going to win it all again. We were watching it at a friends house, and when Mo came into the game, We just turned the TV off and went home. By the time I arrived at my apartment just a few miles away, the game was over, and AZ had won. I was mad that I had given up on AZ and missed it. To me, it didn't matter anymore who AZ was playing, I was just angry that I missed the ending of one of the more memorable WS in recent history. I know that hollow feeling that you guys are describing after losing a game you thought you had tied up well. Not something you really wish on anyone after such a hard fought series.
a-rod359
04-24-05, 05:42 PM
right on man right on
yankeesfaninaz
04-24-05, 06:35 PM
1. 2001 WS game 7 (living in AZ and right after 9/11, this loss made me livid for the longest time. I could not stop crying for the longest time, and it still does to this day.
2. 2004 ALCS game 7
3. 2003 WS game 7
4. 2002 ALDS
5. all of the above.
Ive only been a Yankees fan since 1996. Im 21 years old.
iWant27
04-24-05, 08:11 PM
1. 2001 WS game 7 (living in AZ and right after 9/11, this loss made me livid for the longest time. I could not stop crying for the longest time, and it still does to this day.
2. 2004 ALCS game 7
3. 2003 WS game 7
4. 2002 ALDS
5. all of the above.
Ive only been a Yankees fan since 1996. Im 21 years old.
I am sorry but there was no Game 7 in WS 2003 . ;)
Evil Empire
04-24-05, 08:38 PM
Every postseason series loss we've had since 2001
stupidpunchline
04-24-05, 10:26 PM
1. 2001 World Series Game 7
2. Nothing can compare to that inning. Not even last year. I go through cycles of emotion to this day when I think about that game. First Anger... then Fear... then Bargaining.... but Acceptance never comes.
nybabygurl2
04-24-05, 11:34 PM
The worst loss for me will always be game 7 of the 2001 WS. After watching two of the most amazing baseball games of my life, the idea that we would go back to AZ and lose the final two...devastating. It was Mo's first huge defeat (much worse than Cleveland in '97), and the script being written required that the Yanks win that series and have a parade down the Canyon of Heroes.
1. 2001 WS, Game 7. I still have nightmares about that game, to this day. Mo throwing the ball into centerfield, Counsell leaning into the pitch...I wake up in a cold sweat. I have never in my life been more depressed than I was after this game.
You guys pretty much summed up my feelings. I've lived a pretty good life--I know that because November 4th-5th, 2001 was close to the worst day of it. There's no crying in baseball, I know, but I bawled my eyes out. I didn't sleep a wink for two or three nights, just tossed and turned. I didn't even go to school the next day (I was a junior in high school that year). That hurt like hell. Of course, last year's loss was pretty horrifying in its own right. I walked around in a daze for a few days after. But nothing will ever compare to '01. All the other playoff losses that I've experienced in my 19 (almost 20!) years have definitely sucked, but those two are the ones that will always, always sting the most.
dabomb2045
04-25-05, 12:03 AM
I guess we all take losses differently.....but idk how any Yankee fan cant have last years debacle #1 on their list
the way I look at it is this....the only time I've been embarassed to be a Yankee fan was after we lost that series last year....to be known as rooting for a team that pulled the biggest choke job in sports history was embarassing....the team folded, fell apart
2001 I had nothing to be ashamed of....although it hurt, I also remembered we were coming off 3 titles in a row....so it didnt hurt that much....you cant win it every year
but 2004 we were going on several years without a title....and the way we so utterly dominated Games 1-3, there was NO doubt in my mind we were winning it all last year....but Games 4-7 were by far the most painful games I've ever experienced as a Yankee fan, or a fan of any team I root for....there is a reason coming down from 0-3 to win a series has only happened 3 times in pro sports history...its cuz the team up 3-0 has to absolutely fold to lose the series...the way we lost (choke job...losing 4 in a row) and who we lost it to made it by far the worst loss ever
and as I said...after Game 7 I was disgusted and embarassed...and up until then that had never happened to me before when it came to being a Yankee fan
hobokenfish
04-25-05, 08:10 AM
I guess we all take losses differently.....but idk how any Yankee fan cant have last years debacle #1 on their list
the way I look at it is this....the only time I've been embarassed to be a Yankee fan was after we lost that series last year....to be known as rooting for a team that pulled the biggest choke job in sports history was embarassing....the team folded, fell apart
2001 I had nothing to be ashamed of....although it hurt, I also remembered we were coming off 3 titles in a row....so it didnt hurt that much....you cant win it every year
but 2004 we were going on several years without a title....and the way we so utterly dominated Games 1-3, there was NO doubt in my mind we were winning it all last year....but Games 4-7 were by far the most painful games I've ever experienced as a Yankee fan, or a fan of any team I root for....there is a reason coming down from 0-3 to win a series has only happened 3 times in pro sports history...its cuz the team up 3-0 has to absolutely fold to lose the series...the way we lost (choke job...losing 4 in a row) and who we lost it to made it by far the worst loss ever
and as I said...after Game 7 I was disgusted and embarassed...and up until then that had never happened to me before when it came to being a Yankee fan
That sums it up pretty well for me too. 2001 hurt because it was Game 7, there were a couple of great comebacks, and there was the 9/11 sentiment, but we had just won 3 titles in a row and the team played gallantly until the very end. Plus, it was Arizona and not Boston.
1. Definitely the Boston Series...Especially games 4 and 7. Game 4 because it was my first playoff game ever and perhaps the would've been the best day of my life baseball wise if we held on. I had gone to the the Yankee's hotel during the day and got a bunch of autographs and stuff. Then me and my friend saw batting practice for like 2 and a half hours, meet a few players...sat in amazing seats
First playoff game I've ever gone to, and then to have us lose the way we did, definitely upsetting. And obviously game 7 because of what happened.
Game 7 of 2001 was also a tough one to take, but the way we won those games in new york were just too amazing to bring me down...2001 has never and will never haunt me as much as 2004, especially being a college student in boston and hearing it just about everyday. At least in 2001, i was home, and felt like we were all in it together
GoMariners11646
05-06-05, 05:29 PM
However, the first batter, Alex Gonzalez, hit a homerun that just barely escaped over the leftfield wall (it wouldn't have been a homerun in Yankee Stadium, perhaps just a fairly deep line out).
-Heath
Oh, I beg to differ.
Alex Gonzalez hit that ball down the left field line at Pro Player Stadium and it cleared the fence by about three to four feet (meaning had the left-fielder would have had to have a major vertical leap to catch it, and most likely wouldn't have had time to get in position because the ball left the park so quickly). Now, let's look at the dimenisons of Pro Player Stadium compared to Yankee Stadium. MLB.com has the left field wall right down the line to be 318 feet at Yankee Stadium. The left field wall right down the line at Pro Player Stadium is 330 feet from home plate and it tails outward in a similar fashion as to Yankee Stadium because both their left-center fences are 385 and 390, respectively. Also, the wall at Pro-Player stadium is the same height as the wall at Yankee Stadium. Meaning, Alex Gonzalez hit that ball over a fence that is farther from home plate and equally as high as the wall he would have hit it over at Yankee Stadium. Given the trajectory of the ball, he probably hit it at least 340 feet (bare minimum because it cleared the fence by three to four feet and it was hit on a line). The ball misses the left field foul pole by about eight feet, meaning the wall at Yankee stadium doesn't have enough distance to tail out a considerable amount to add a significant distance in addition to the 318 feet it already is at home plate. Since we can establish that they tail out (meaning they add distance from home plate) in similar fashions, we can safely say that the shape of the walls would not have effected whether or not Gonzalez's homerun cleared the fence.
There is no way (barring an absolutely incredible wind coming in from left field) that the ball he hit would not have been out of the park at Yankee Stadium, and it most CERTAINLY would not have been a deep lineout. Considering how hard it was hit there's no way the left-fielder would have had a play on that even if it did stay in the park unless he was playing right on the left field line (which isn't likely, and in the homerun the left-fielder isn't even in the picture, indicating that he was shaded to left-center and not left.)
I think the ball would have been about five rows back in left, but it certainly would have been out of the park because of the differences in distance downt the left field line.
Still don't believe me? Relive the moment....http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/ps/y2003/wrapup.jsp?ymd=20031022&content_id=590634&vkey=ps2003wrapup&fext=.jsp
Since I'm not a Yankee fan I shouldn't really comment on what I feel are the worst losses for the Yankees, but if I did they'd be a lot like the lists you all have going.
cbart31
05-06-05, 05:52 PM
1) Game 7 2004 LCS
2) Game 161 of the 1985 season, watching the Blue Jays clinch the AL East
3) Game 7 2001 WS
4) Game 5 95 LDS
5) Game 6 2003 WS
Heathnyy5
05-08-05, 03:45 AM
Oh, I beg to differ.
Now, let's look at the dimenisons of Pro Player Stadium compared to Yankee Stadium. MLB.com has the left field wall right down the line to be 318 feet at Yankee Stadium. The left field wall right down the line at Pro Player Stadium is 330 feet from home plate and it tails outward in a similar fashion as to Yankee Stadium because both their left-center fences are 385 and 390, respectively. Also, the wall at Pro-Player stadium is the same height as the wall at Yankee Stadium. Meaning, Alex Gonzalez hit that ball over a fence that is farther from home plate and equally as high as the wall he would have hit it over at Yankee Stadium. Given the trajectory of the ball, he probably hit it at least 340 feet (bare minimum because it cleared the fence by three to four feet and it was hit on a line). The ball misses the left field foul pole by about eight feet, meaning the wall at Yankee stadium doesn't have enough distance to tail out a considerable amount to add a significant distance in addition to the 318 feet it already is at home plate. Since we can establish that they tail out (meaning they add distance from home plate) in similar fashions, we can safely say that the shape of the walls would not have effected whether or not Gonzalez's homerun cleared the fence.
There is no way (barring an absolutely incredible wind coming in from left field) that the ball he hit would not have been out of the park at Yankee Stadium, and it most CERTAINLY would not have been a deep lineout. Considering how hard it was hit there's no way the left-fielder would have had a play on that even if it did stay in the park unless he was playing right on the left field line (which isn't likely, and in the homerun the left-fielder isn't even in the picture, indicating that he was shaded to left-center and not left.)
I think the ball would have been about five rows back in left, but it certainly would have been out of the park because of the differences in distance downt the left field line.
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You're probably right, I wrote that post prior to the 2004 season, with the 2003 WS already a little hazy. However, were I to post after the 2004 post season, obviously the Bosox series would be on there. You're almost certainly right, and I'm sorry if you took offense or anything, it is just that I wrote it a while ago, and it was so long that I barely even remember what I was thinking. Sorry for the probable error, I usually try to write error free. And even though I wrote it over a year ago, it should still be fair game. Thank you for notifying me of the error (although I won't go back and edit it, because I wrote the post so long ago that I'm not going to change it at this point).
In retrospect the game was a microcosm of the series, and of the entire postseason for the Angels. The Angels would take the pesky, comeback at all costs ways to the World Series against the San Francisco Giants; and when they were thought to be down and out, down by five runs in game 6, they mounted to take the game and tie the series at 3 games a piece.
Please excuse my slightly off-topic reply. I'm a Yankee fan, but I just wanted to share the worst non-Yankee loss I ever witnessed:
I lived in the Bay Area for 13 years and became friendly with quite a number of SF Giants fans, going to many games at both miserable Candlestick and lovely PacBell Park (refuse to call it that other corporate name). For Game 6 Macy's sponsored a huge video monitor in a downtown park so that SF Giants fans could watch the game together, outdoors, simulating the ballpark experience. I went with two life long Giants fans in their 50s, who had been waiting for a Giants title in their city since 1962.
There we were in bottom of the 7th inning, 1 down. The fans start chanting "8 more outs! 8 more outs!" Dusty comes and takes Russ Ortiz out of the game. He lingers and then you can see him give the ball back to his starter, giving him what he assumed was the 'game ball.' I turned to my friends and said, "I don't think he should be doing that."
The Angels comeback started with the next batter and you never heard the "7 more outs!" chant. The quiet in the park after the game was beyond eerie. No one spoke as people gathered their things. Everyone kept starting at the now blank screen as if only they looked at it hard enough, they would see their team celebrating. My friends and I went out to dinner but they were too devastated to eat much. I wasn't even a Giants fan and I sat in stunned silence over what I had just seen. Seriously, the experience was so emotionally draining, it effected my mood the whole next day, and I had nothing invested in either team!
I watched game 7 knowing that the Giants were done, and so did my friends.
Watching the Yanks go down in flames to those idiots last year I kept flashing on that night in SF. Ugh.
I didn't see this thread earlier, so I posted my worst times here: http://forums.nyyfans.com/showthread.php?t=82760
DiMaggio5CF
05-09-05, 02:55 PM
Going from most hearbreaking (1) to least (5) . . .
Since 1983 . . .
1. Game 7 of the 2004 ALCS
2. Game 7 of the 2001 World Series
3. Game 5 of the 1995 ALDS
4. Game 5 of the 1997 ALDS
5. Game 4 of the 2003 World Series
CyYoung4Vazquez
05-09-05, 03:24 PM
The ALCS game in '95 was the toughest for me. I'm 25 now and it's weird that it's been 10 years. I guess I just really wanted to see Donnie get a title.
The Boston series was a disaster but last season the only game I could get to was in KC, and the Royals freaking won like 16-4 or something like that. Don't really remember. But my friends out here acted like they had just won the World Series.
BostonYankeeBoy
02-14-06, 02:57 PM
1. ALCS 2004
2. 22-0, drove in from Boston with a buddy and it was the only Yanks game I went to that year.
3. WS 2001 Could have been a great ending given the circumstances in NY at the time but was not meant to be.
4. 1995 ALDS, I was 7 and just started following the Yankees closely and I was so excited they were in the playoffs.
5. 2003 WS, such a let down after Aaron "*&^#@!$" Boone's HR to send the Sox home
BillBuckner
02-14-06, 04:15 PM
I'm in a depressed mood anyway, so what the hell.
1.) Game 7 2004 ALCS... no $hit.
2.) Game 7 2001 WS... ouch.
3.) Game 5 1995 DS... I wanted Donnie to win.
4.) Game 5 2005 DS... after a great turnaround, I thought this team would go all the way.
5.) Game 6 2003 WS... Boone buzz killer.
brosiusbuddy
02-14-06, 04:28 PM
"Man, there's been some bad losses. Lost a lot of good men out there."
"Playing for the Yankees?"
"Yeah, to trades and to unruly fans... I don't want to talk about it."
BillBuckner
02-14-06, 04:30 PM
"Man, there's been some bad losses. Lost a lot of good men out there."
"Playing for the Yankees?"
"Yeah, to trades and to unruly fans... I don't want to talk about it."
Good movie. :lol:
Beccash18
02-14-06, 04:34 PM
As much as Game 7 of the 2001 World Series is one of my worst losses as a fan, it is also one of my favorite games too. The whole series had such a patriotic feel to it after 9/11 and it was like the whole city was rooting for the Yankees. It was also Paul O'Neill's last game as a Yankee, and that's what I really remember. I think of that game and the cheers from the crowd chanting his name are the first thing that comes to my mind. It was the first time that I remember something like that playing out. I'm sure there were other times that players were cheered their last game, but that's the one I remember. I guess because I had so much invested emotionally to that series.
ChiPhiYank77
02-14-06, 05:42 PM
1)Game 7, 2001 World Series
2)Game 7, 61 Series
3- 5) 2004 ALCS
trink119
02-14-06, 09:14 PM
I would say....
#1- Game 7 2001 WS- Mo at his best doesn't get it done.
#2- Game 4- 2004 ALCS- They all sucked, but this was the one we should have had.
#3- Game 5- 1995 ALDS- Simply painful
#4- Game 3- 1980 ALCS- It may be hard for younger fans to believe, but KC was a hated rival back then and to see Goose give up that HR to Brett was very painful
#5- Game 6- 1981 WS- 2-0 series lead followed by 3 1-run losses and then a blowout to end it all. TJ, you broke my heart.
It just sucks when the lose.
BroadwayBomber55
02-14-06, 09:30 PM
Game 7 2001 World Series is the worst as a Yankee fan.
But that game doesn't bother me anymore and the 2004 ALCS doesn't bother me anymore.
Those losses...I just put those to bed and never ever come back.
NYYBombshell
02-14-06, 10:27 PM
Game 7 of the 2001 World Series.
I couldn't eat for a couple days after that. I was an absolute wreck. The ALCS in 2004.......at a certain point, I saw it coming. It was sometime during Game 6 that I realized "They aren't winning this". I still wanted them to win and I rooted for them to win, but much like Red Sox fans prior to 2004, I didn't think it would matter.
Game 7 of the 2001 World Series.
I couldn't eat for a couple days after that. I was an absolute wreck. The ALCS in 2004.......at a certain point, I saw it coming. It was sometime during Game 6 that I realized "They aren't winning this". I still wanted them to win and I rooted for them to win, but much like Red Sox fans prior to 2004, I didn't think it would matter.
Agreed. It tore my heart out. Really. So close, yet so far. Paulie:(
expectTHEunexpected
02-14-06, 10:44 PM
Why oh why was this thread created??!!
WebsterMulligan
02-14-06, 10:44 PM
1. Game 7/2001 WS - I thought the game was in the bag, after Mo breezed through the 8th. I wanted that four-peat!
2. Game 4/2004 ALCS - I was at Fenway tasting a Yankee celebration on Fenway soil, but was denied.
3. Game 5-7/2004 ALCS - Bad. Very bad.
4. Game 3/1980 ALCS - Getting swept by the Royals is still a painful memory.
5. Game 5/1995 ALDS - What a gut-wrenching series!
NYYBombshell
02-14-06, 11:06 PM
1. Game 7/2001 WS - I thought the game was in the bag, after Mo breezed through the 8th. I wanted that four-peat!
2. Game 4/2004 ALCS - I was at Fenway tasting a Yankee celebration on Fenway soil, but was denied.
3. Game 5-7/2004 ALCS - Bad. Very bad.
4. Game 3/1980 ALCS - Getting swept by the Royals is still a painful memory.
5. Game 5/1995 ALDS - What a gut-wrenching series!
Such a shame that you had to relive that during the season last year.
WebsterMulligan
02-14-06, 11:23 PM
Such a shame that you had to relive that during the season last year.
Getting swept by the lowly Royals last year in a regular season series, was nothing compared to getting swept by the Royals in the 1980 ALCS. I was young then and took the loses much harder in those days.
PonytailAtHome
02-14-06, 11:59 PM
Well quite frankly, all losses stink equally.
But I agree with everyone, game 7 of 2001... that's the first one that comes to mind.
hellonewman
02-15-06, 12:13 AM
Getting swept by the lowly Royals last year in a regular season series, was nothing compared to getting swept by the Royals in the 1980 ALCS.Amen to that. And to think, we wasted an inside-the-park home run by ... Graig Nettles? :eek:
I haven't read the entire thread however...I cannot list 2004 Game 7 as my WORST loss as a Yankee fan for MULTIPLE reasons...
1) that wasn't really the key loss in the series, there were so many little things that happened from game 4 on....so many things could have gone differently, or could have been done differently, by the time we got to game 7, I just felt like a lamb being led to slaughter...I knew it was over, once they got it to Game 7...we just weren't going to take it....I'm a 23 year old Yankee fan who has watched and remembered since around the 91-92 season.
For me...personally...Here's the lowdown
1) Game 7 2001 WS - worst playoff loss I've seen as a Yankee fan.
Think of all the DOMINATING teams of the yankee era in the late 90's...then going for 4 in a row against the D'backs...we were outplayed, outfielded, outpitched and outhit in that series...but we were in position to win, we STILL should have won that series...and that's what makes the loss so difficult, after winning with those CLEARLY superior teams, we were finally set up to win one that we had NO business winning....and we lost.
You know what also makes that loss the hardest? The dramatic HR's by Tino and Brosius...anytime I see those moments I get GREAT memories...however, they're dampened....they lost the series....it's not a big deal to me, sure, it was a great moment for NYC, post 9/11...but they lost...it hurts...to have SUCH great moments clouded by defeat...Would the Gibson HR mean anything if they lost? I doubt it'd be NEARLY the classic that we know it to be now, if the A's went on to win the next 4 after that...
That's the game for me, there is no loss NEARLY as crippling as this...
you can talk about game 5 in seattle, game 4 in Cleveland, Game 2 in Anaheim, Game 7 in the ALCS, 2004....but they were all beyond the Yanks control at that point (game 7 specificly), OR they had some kind of greater good, or what became a greater good....Showalter leaving and Torre coming aboard in 96...or what became Paul O'neills shining moment as a Yankee (to me)...in the 97 ALDS....fighting and clawing...if ANY Yankee fan wasn't a fan of O'neill going into that series, it was impossible not to be after that. Paulie won me over, that was it...that was the moment that he became a Yankee for life....he left his blood and guts out on that field for that series....We wanted a repeat in New York, and I think New Yorkers found the guy who wanted it just as badly as they did that year, Paul O'neill....that's probably the only reason I look back on the 97 post season with admiration...that and because I felt as if that defeat changed the Yankees in a positive way, and led to the tear that they dropped on the AL the following year that culminated and came full circle when they got their second crack at Jaret Wright...and knocked him out in the first inning in the ALCS.
To me, it's just one loss that cannot be swallowed...Game 7 in Arizona...can't take it...one away from 4 titles in a row....3 in a row is AMAZING and something to be recognized...4 in a row...in this era? you're the greatest ever, unquestionably.
#1PaFan
02-15-06, 07:53 AM
1. 2001 Game 7 WS
2. 2001 Game 7 WS
3. 2001 Game 7 WS
4. 2001 Game 7 WS
5. 2001 Game 7 WS
DontHateOnNumber2
02-15-06, 08:21 AM
I felt more devastated when the Diamondbacks beat the Yankees than when the Red Sox beat the Yankees. I knew that the Red Sox were a really good team, but I just didn't think that Arizona was going to do it. They did.
noneckwilliams
02-15-06, 08:33 AM
5. Games 4-7 of 2004 ALCS
I went to games #6 #7. Just awful.
Dr. Gonzo
02-15-06, 08:37 AM
this is the easiest question in the world.
Game 7 2005
this is the easiest question in the world.
Game 7 2005
If you meant Game 5, 1995, I'd agree. That's an easy answer for me as well. The '04 ALCS was tough, as was the '01 WS. But.....2005, the first time back in the postseason since the early 80's....being up 2-0, then losing Game 5 in that fashion.....the worst.
Arod for President
02-15-06, 09:20 AM
1. 2001 Game 7 WS
2. 2001 Game 7 WS
3. 2001 Game 7 WS
4. 2001 Game 7 WS
5. 2001 Game 7 WS
That was a pretty harsh game. We love to bring up these sore subjects dont we. ;)
hobokenfish
02-15-06, 09:25 AM
If you meant Game 5, 1995, I'd agree. That's an easy answer for me as well. The '04 ALCS was tough, as was the '01 WS. But.....2005, the first time back in the postseason since the early 80's....being up 2-0, then losing Game 5 in that fashion.....the worst.
Agreed. 2001 was really tough, but we had already won three straight so it wasn't devastating. Plus, Arizona was the better team and the Yanks would have been very lucky to win that series. Still, Game 5 of that series was the best game I've ever been to.
1995 was absolutely brutal. I didn't even watch the rest playoffs after Game 5 because it was so painful. The 14 year playoff draught and knowing Mattingly was probably done makes it the worst for me.
Agreed. 2001 was really tough, but we had already won three straight so it wasn't devastating. Plus, Arizona was the better team and the Yanks would have been very lucky to win that series. Still, Game 5 of that series was the best game I've ever been to.
1995 was absolutely brutal. I didn't even watch the rest playoffs after Game 5 because it was so painful. The 14 year playoff draught and knowing Mattingly was probably done makes it the worst for me.
Exactly. I don't know that Arizona was the better team, though they had the top two pitchers in possibly the game at that time. After Johnson and Schilling, though, it wasn't that deep of a club. Certainly built for postseason, though.
For some reason, '01 didn't hurt much after the first day or so. It was fall of 2001 in NY, so that probably put it better into perspective. The games 4 and 5 were two of the craziest and most exciting games I've been to.....and the fact that it was the WS and no other games were played after that loss.
In '04, it was a slow burn. I probably was more upset after losing Game 5 than Game 7. Game 4 was a flukey thing with Mo, and then Game 5 with the Clark ball bouncing into the stands and Loiaza actually looking extremely good I thought it was in the bag. Reason why I will always hold a grudge against Gordon......he was awful. But by the time Game 7 rolled around and unfolded the way it did, I left YS unhappy but strangely not devastated.
'95 was simply horrible. Cone struggling at 100-god-knows-how-many-pitches, and then Blackjack coming in and throwing fuel on the fire since Buck was scared to go to Wetteland. If you ever watch the tape of that game, check out Mo's slider. Great pitch for him...and if they only knew who Rivera was, the Yanks win that sucker. Oh well.
NYYBombshell
02-15-06, 10:56 AM
this is the easiest question in the world.
Game 7 2005
Yeah, that game just sucked. Sucked so bad, there's no record of it!
DontHateOnNumber2
02-15-06, 11:34 AM
Yeah, that game just sucked. Sucked so bad, there's no record of it!
Unless he's confusing it with Game 5 2005. I thought the Yanks were going to beat the Angels down once Bartolo was knocked out of the game. The game also showed how good Ervin Santana was, at least that night.
YanksRin
02-15-06, 01:59 PM
Top 5 losses
1) Game 7 2004 ALCS-Enough said.
2) Game 3 1980 ALCS-Losing to the Kansas City Royals, a team that Yanks had battled with previously. George Brett was to those Yanks what David Ortiz is to them, now.
3) Game 3, 4, 5, 6 of the 1981 World Series-Two words: George Frazier. If some Yankee fans are bemoaning Mo's last two days, well, go back and watch tape of George Frazier in 1981. Make you cringe.
4) Game 7 of 1955 World Series-Losing to the hated Dodgers for the first time.
5) August 2, 1979-Death of Thurman Munson. I was 7 when that happened. Only as I got older do I realize what affect that must have had on his team and especially Jerry Narron, Thurman's replacement their first game back. That team was a two time defending champion and to lose their captain, heart and soul, well, it must have been awful inside that clubhouse. RIP #15
Yes, I agree 100%
hellonewman
02-15-06, 03:58 PM
I'm still amazed that people are picking 2001 as worse than 2004. Different strokes for different folks, I guess, but I just don't get it. The 2001 team was like an aging gunslinger with one great fight left in him; we'd just won 4 in 5 years, we were bound to lose one eventually, and let's be honest here, Arizona outplayed the Yankees for the vast majority of that series. Still, the Yankees took them to the limit before falling.
In 2004, they had their foot on the Red Sox's throat and then slipped on an all-time historic banana peel in front of the whole laughing, delighted Yankee-hating world. Against their most hated rival.
The difference between 2001 and 2004 is the difference between "disappointed but proud" and "disgusted and ashamed." It's no contest.
Unless he's confusing it with Game 5 2005. I thought the Yanks were going to beat the Angels down once Bartolo was knocked out of the game. The game also showed how good Ervin Santana was, at least that night.
I disagree. Santana was self-destructing on the mound, and the Yanks amazingly helped him out of the inning. He was also missing spots all night.
He is a talent, for sure. But he used the combination of luck and the Yankees tight bats to succeed that evening.
BillBuckner
02-15-06, 05:49 PM
I'm still amazed that people are picking 2001 as worse than 2004. Different strokes for different folks, I guess, but I just don't get it. The 2001 team was like an aging gunslinger with one great fight left in him; we'd just won 4 in 5 years, we were bound to lose one eventually, and let's be honest here, Arizona outplayed the Yankees for the vast majority of that series. Still, the Yankees took them to the limit before falling.
In 2004, they had their foot on the Red Sox's throat and then slipped on an all-time historic banana peel in front of the whole laughing, delighted Yankee-hating world. Against their most hated rival.
The difference between 2001 and 2004 is the difference between "disappointed but proud" and "disgusted and ashamed." It's no contest.
You're exactly right. 2001 hurt, but there was still a lot to be proud of. And coming off 3 straight championships took away some of the sting. 2004 on the other hand was just absolutely crippling.
AndThenThereWasTino
02-15-06, 07:34 PM
The number one was the 2001 World Series and the number two was 2004 ALCS (Especially since my roomate was a Red Sox fan.)
jimmyclark
02-15-06, 08:20 PM
For you older fans and with the benefit of hindsight, the Game 7 loss to StL in the 1964 WS has to rank up there because it marked the start of the most difficult period of Yankee fandom EVER coming right after the greatest period!
My biggest fear is that forty years later "The Loss That Must Not Be Spoken Of" could conceivably mark the beginning of another tough streak if age/injuries suddenly catch up to this team. :eek:
Actually the worst losses in the 1964 World Series were game 4 and game 5. In game 4 the first 5 hitters got on but Mantle was thrown out trying to stretch a single into a double (4th batter). Relief pitcher Roger Craig shut down the Yankees and some shoddy defense in the 6th let Clete Boyer's brother Ken hit a grand slam for a 4-3 Cardinal win.
In game 5 Pepitone was called out at first when he was safe. The next batter, Tom Tresh, hit a home run that tied the game. If Pepitone had been correctly called safe, it would have been a game winning three run home run. Instead the game went into extra innings and Tim McCarver showed his tangibles by hitting a three run home run.
I am too young to remember 1960 but I do remember getting baseball cards in 1961 and wondering how the Yankees could lose despite outscoring Pittsburgh 55-27. Shoddy defense and bad pitching (Art Ditmar had the nerve to sue when he was incorrectly identified as giving up Maz's HR in a commercial???).
Besides Munson's death, I would say 1995 ALDS against Seattle. Has Doug Strange taken the bat off his shoulder yet?
Yankeesfan66
02-15-06, 10:36 PM
Having been a fan since the mid-60's, I've suffered through a lot of lean years--and a lot of tough losses. They all seemed crushing at the time, but then you get over it. Except for the 2001 World Series. I don't think I will ever get over that loss. It wasn't about so much the actual losing; it was the timing of the loss. After 9/11, it just seemed destined that we were going to win the whole thing. I know I'm projecting way too much onto a sporting event, but it just seemed like it was meant to be. As superficial as it sounds, it just seemed so important that there was going to be a parade, filled with happy people, only blocks away from the site of all that sadness, and that it would be our way of thumbing our noses at the terrorists, of saying 'here we are, celebrating, right here in NYC. You did not, and will not, defeat us". It was going to be a storybook ending. And then suddenly it wasn't. There would be no point in listing 4 other losses, because they all pale in comparison to this one....
FtheSox&RallyMonkey
02-15-06, 10:59 PM
I don't know if it's been mentioned because I'm too lazy to read all the posts but this thread reminded me of another pathetic game, being no hit by I think 6 Astros pitchers. This also reminds me of how Mets fans always make fun of us after we lose a heartbraker or get eliminated and they don't have the right to talk ................ because they can't even make it where we do every year. Don't believe in the hype, Lo Duca, Delgado, and Wagner can't pull off a miracle, Mets suck! Sorry, the thought of Spring Training in about 12 hours from now got me going.
26 and counting
02-15-06, 11:19 PM
I think we all basically agree on the worst ever losses as Yankee fans, but the two best losses just may be the disappearance of Kevin Brown and Tony Womack.
Getting back to seriousness, the worst loss I ever saw live was Game 2 of the 2002 ALDS against the Angels. I sat in the outfield seats in right, field level. We had a 1-0 series lead. Fell behind 4-0, but the Yankees came storming back, capped off by a Soriano home run to make it 5-4 Yankees. I thought the Yankees had the game and the series in the bag at that point, poised to go up 2-0 in a best-of-5 series. But the bullpen imploded, and the Angels eventually won 8-6. We all know what happend from then on, as the Angels used that victory as the sparkplug to their World Championship.
Dammit, how do the Yankees lose two playoff series in a span of four years to a freaking rally monkey? They always have so much trouble against the Angels.
NYYBombshell
02-16-06, 12:04 AM
I'm still amazed that people are picking 2001 as worse than 2004. Different strokes for different folks, I guess, but I just don't get it. The 2001 team was like an aging gunslinger with one great fight left in him; we'd just won 4 in 5 years, we were bound to lose one eventually, and let's be honest here, Arizona outplayed the Yankees for the vast majority of that series. Still, the Yankees took them to the limit before falling.
In 2004, they had their foot on the Red Sox's throat and then slipped on an all-time historic banana peel in front of the whole laughing, delighted Yankee-hating world. Against their most hated rival.
The difference between 2001 and 2004 is the difference between "disappointed but proud" and "disgusted and ashamed." It's no contest.
As I said earlier, after a while..........I began to see the Sox as the team who wanted it more. Not saying I didn't root my ass for the Yanks, just finally admitting that we were just falling apart. We couldn't have beat St. Louis if we went in there playing them like we did the Red Sox.
With the Diamondbacks, that was Mo on the mound. Mo! The Sandman, the God of Thunder, and he failed. This was post-9/11, it would have been 4 straight.......it just hurt and hurt bad. I got over the ALCS in '04 pretty quick, but 2001 took a while. Nowadays, if I even hear Luis Gonzalez's name, I get nauseous.
Having been a fan since the mid-60's, I've suffered through a lot of lean years--and a lot of tough losses. They all seemed crushing at the time, but then you get over it. Except for the 2001 World Series. I don't think I will ever get over that loss. It wasn't about so much the actual losing; it was the timing of the loss. After 9/11, it just seemed destined that we were going to win the whole thing. I know I'm projecting way too much onto a sporting event, but it just seemed like it was meant to be. As superficial as it sounds, it just seemed so important that there was going to be a parade, filled with happy people, only blocks away from the site of all that sadness, and that it would be our way of thumbing our noses at the terrorists, of saying 'here we are, celebrating, right here in NYC. You did not, and will not, defeat us". It was going to be a storybook ending. And then suddenly it wasn't. There would be no point in listing 4 other losses, because they all pale in comparison to this one....
These are my sentiments EXACTLY. No loss will ever compare.
BombersBlvd
02-16-06, 08:13 PM
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RhodyYanksFan
02-16-06, 08:57 PM
Having been a fan since the mid-60's, I've suffered through a lot of lean years--and a lot of tough losses. They all seemed crushing at the time, but then you get over it. Except for the 2001 World Series. I don't think I will ever get over that loss. It wasn't about so much the actual losing; it was the timing of the loss. After 9/11, it just seemed destined that we were going to win the whole thing. I know I'm projecting way too much onto a sporting event, but it just seemed like it was meant to be. As superficial as it sounds, it just seemed so important that there was going to be a parade, filled with happy people, only blocks away from the site of all that sadness, and that it would be our way of thumbing our noses at the terrorists, of saying 'here we are, celebrating, right here in NYC. You did not, and will not, defeat us". It was going to be a storybook ending. And then suddenly it wasn't. There would be no point in listing 4 other losses, because they all pale in comparison to this one....
Have you seen the documentary "Nine Innings from Ground Zero"? You're not alone in how you feel about that season.
Getting back to seriousness, the worst loss I ever saw live was Game 2 of the 2002 ALDS against the Angels. I sat in the outfield seats in right, field level. We had a 1-0 series lead. Fell behind 4-0, but the Yankees came storming back, capped off by a Soriano home run to make it 5-4 Yankees. I thought the Yankees had the game and the series in the bag at that point, poised to go up 2-0 in a best-of-5 series. But the bullpen imploded, and the Angels eventually won 8-6. We all know what happend from then on, as the Angels used that victory as the sparkplug to their World Championship.
And sparkplug a sort of dominance of the Yankees. They're the only team with a +.500 record vs the Joe Torre Yankees.
Yankeesfan66
02-17-06, 03:59 PM
Have you seen the documentary "Nine Innings from Ground Zero"? You're not alone in how you feel about that season
Yes, I did see it, it was a great documentary, and it just brought back all those same feelings. In fact, when I say 'I saw it', what I really mean is that I watched it only until the part about games 5 and 6--I just couldn't bear to see the ending again.....
Kulish29
02-17-06, 04:47 PM
Game 4, 2002 ALDS vs. Anaheim: First Yankee game I ever attended. A buddy and I drove out to Cali and paid 160 bucks each for nosebleed seats. While it was awesome to see them play live for the first time. It was an overall crappy experience.
Game 7, 2001 World Series vs. D-Backs: What more can be said? :sad:
Game 7, 2004 ALCS vs. Boston: Ugh.
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