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Romeo the Yankee

03-19-04, 08:36 AM

sorry if i posted in wrong area but seen the post on Pettite and thought this would been in the same area.

YankyDave

03-19-04, 08:49 AM

I hear the sales of certain weeds are up in Vero Beach.

nyyfanatic85

03-19-04, 09:10 AM

From Foxsports.com:

http://www.foxsports.com/named/FS/MLB/player?categoryId=85105

Mar 18 2004 - Jeff Weaver allowed four runs and eight hits through five innings today against the Marlins. Still very hittable. Weaver has a 7.07 ERA and has given up 25 hits in 13 innings this spring.

SuperMario66

03-19-04, 10:12 AM

Originally posted by YankyDave
I hear the sales of certain weeds are up in Vero Beach.

haha :P

FutureYankee

03-19-04, 10:55 AM

ouch.. hes getting hammered.
oh well:evil:

JerkStore

03-19-04, 10:58 AM

Mar 18 2004 - Jeff Weaver allowed four runs and eight hits through five innings today against the Marlins. Still very hittable. Weaver has a 7.07 ERA and has given up 25 hits in 13 innings this spring.

Ahhh, so I see all is right in the world....the sky is blue, the grass is green and Weaver stinks. :lol:

YankeeFan1

03-19-04, 10:59 AM

Not good. I still hope that Weaver can rebound with the Dodgers.

Yanks21

03-19-04, 05:51 PM

He's been up and down. He's shown some flashes of dominance this Spring. Eerily similar to his stint in the Bronx. Nevertheless, he should do alright at Chavez Ravine...

FWIW, last time I saw him on the Dodger's report, he was sporting shoulder length hair and a goatee. He looked ridiculous...

chanman7483

03-20-04, 12:21 AM

Originally posted by JerkStore
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Ahhh, so I see all is right in the world....the sky is blue, the grass is green and Weaver stinks. :lol: [/B]\

:lol: :barf:

deranged2005

03-20-04, 08:18 AM

Originally posted by YankeeFan1
Not good. I still hope that Weaver can rebound with the Dodgers.

Me too, he's on my fantasy team.

Maybe it'll change this season. The defense and the large park will help him.

bigteethkeith

03-23-04, 08:14 PM

weaver got rocked again today bringing his totals to 35 hits in 16 innings, and a nice even 9.00 era.

Yankees1962

03-23-04, 09:01 PM

Sounds like a pitcher that has completely lost his confidence.

Gringaloca

03-23-04, 09:14 PM

Originally posted by nyyfanatic85
From Foxsports.com:

http://www.foxsports.com/named/FS/MLB/player?categoryId=85105

Mar 18 2004 - Jeff Weaver allowed four runs and eight hits through five innings today against the Marlins. Still very hittable. Weaver has a 7.07 ERA and has given up 25 hits in 13 innings this spring.

I thought about going to that game today...Was at both Marlin games on Sunday (vs Mets) and yesterday (vs Astros (Pettitte)...kinda glad I saved the $$$ now...:D

DaBoys4LifeNYY35

03-23-04, 09:36 PM

The Dodgers' guru of a pitching coach completely overhauled Weaver's mechanics. If Jim Colborn can't help him, no one can. Hope he's just working out the kinks. If not, he can easily be replaced. I'm hoping Wilson Alvarez gets a chance to move back into the rotation anyway.

JeffWeaverFan

03-23-04, 10:27 PM

Originally posted by Yankees1962
Sounds like a pitcher that has completely lost his confidence.
It's too bad, I hope he can rebound and start pitching like he should be.

djhitman01

03-23-04, 11:23 PM

Guy stinks. He gives up like 2 hits an inning. I see no reason why Jeff weaver will be any good this year, regardless of that dam park or his defense. People just hit the ball flat out hard against him, there's only so much your defense can do for you.

nyyfanatic85

03-23-04, 11:24 PM

Originally posted by djhitman01
Guy stinks. He gives up like 2 hits an inning. I see no reason why Jeff weaver will be any good this year, regardless of that dam park or his defense. People just hit the ball flat out hard against him, there's only so much your defense can do for you.

It's a damn shame is what it is. I wish the best for this guy but I'm also realistic. We'll see what happens

NJOBP36

03-24-04, 12:28 AM

Originally posted by djhitman01
Guy stinks. He gives up like 2 hits an inning. I see no reason why Jeff weaver will be any good this year, regardless of that dam park or his defense. People just hit the ball flat out hard against him, there's only so much your defense can do for you.

Esteban Loaiza, Randy Johnson and Greg Maddux had more line drives hit off them than Weaver.

ACPS

03-24-04, 01:08 AM

His star has really fallen. Remember the "Dark Horse Cy Young" thread? Yeah, me too.

Bub

03-24-04, 06:34 AM

Originally posted by DaBoys4LifeNYY35
The Dodgers' guru of a pitching coach completely overhauled Weaver's mechanics... Any idea exactly what he's doing different? When you think about it, anything different has to be good since everything he did before was wrong.

RedGlare

03-24-04, 08:00 AM

Originally posted by ACPS
His star has really fallen. Remember the "Dark Horse Cy Young" thread? Yeah, me too. heh... was that last year during ST?

KLJ

03-24-04, 08:04 AM

jeff weaver is horrible.. plain and simple... i stood by him as long as i could but i know %@#$@% when i see it... then i read on this site how his numbers were only bad because of the yankees defense... give me a break... this guy couldn't pitch in my softball league...

elston32

03-24-04, 08:17 AM

Originally posted by KLJ
jeff weaver is horrible.. plain and simple... i stood by him as long as i could but i know %@#$@% when i see it... then i read on this site how his number were only bad because of the yankees defense... give me a break... this guy couldn't pitch in my softball league...

Unfortunately for JWeaver, everthing that KLJ says is correct.

Sadly, his fall from "likely future ace" to 'why is this guy even in MLB???" has occured in less than a year.

Even though I cheered when the Yankees were able to get rid of him for good pitcher like KBrown, I wish Jeff well and hope that his career has some kind of rebound in the near future.

chelloveck

03-24-04, 09:19 AM

The best thing about the Yankees getting Brown is the fact that we were rid of Weaver. I wish him well but, the guy's game is lame. No one deserves to suck so bad.

Pomp

03-24-04, 09:23 AM

Originally posted by RedGlare
heh... was that last year during ST?

Ha..no, I started that thread. I think Gabe Kapler said that Weaver was the dark horse to win the NL Cy Young this year.

Bub

03-24-04, 09:54 AM

Originally posted by KLJ
jeff weaver is horrible.. plain and simple... i stood by him as long as i could but i know %@#$@% when i see it... then i read on this site how his numbers were only bad because of the yankees defense... give me a break... this guy couldn't pitch in my softball league... Jeff Weaver is only horrible because he can't possible spot the ball with that erractic delivery. Other than that, he has a live and durable arm. If the Dodger's pitching coach succeeds in changing his delivery (which I doubt he can do), Weaver could become a legitimate starter, especially in the N.L.

penfold

03-24-04, 10:53 AM

Originally posted by Bub
Jeff Weaver is only horrible because he can't possible spot the ball with that erractic delivery. Other than that, he has a live and durable arm. If the Dodger's pitching coach succeeds in changing his delivery (which I doubt he can do), Weaver could become a legitimate starter, especially in the N.L.
It seemed to me that he was good for 4 out of every 5 pitches or so. His big problem was that that 5th pitch had no movement and cruised right down the middle of the plate so that the opposing batter could crush it.

Bub

03-24-04, 12:11 PM

Originally posted by penfold

It seemed to me that he was good for 4 out of every 5 pitches or so. His big problem was that that 5th pitch had no movement and cruised right down the middle of the plate so that the opposing batter could crush it. That's exactly his problem. 4 out of 5 works in AAA, not in the majors. Look at guys who had practically nothing - Jimmy Key, Jamie Moyer etc.....but they hit their spots 19 out of 20 times, plus changed speeds well. I'm convinced a change in delivery would help Weaver a great deal, I'm just not convinced he can make wholesale changes this late in his career.