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backstop20
04-20-03, 05:00 AM
newsday.com 4/20/03 (http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/mets/ny-mside203245497apr20,0,5282056.story?coll=ny%2Dmets%2Dheadlines)

Piazza Trying to Fix His Woes With Throws

By Laura Price-Brown

Chuck Knoblauch he is not.

But imagine allowing a half-dozen stolen bases in one night and 10 in two days. It's enough to worry Mike Piazza, even if he is far from being as spooked as Knoblauch, the former Yankee whose throwing yips at second base turned him into an outfielder. The Mets' All-Star catcher joked that he's not quite ready for the analyst's couch, but he doesn't dismiss his difficulties behind the plate.

"You can't play this game when you're doing something not to make a mistake," he said.

Only Tony Clark's pinch-hit three-run home run in the eighth Friday night and Armando Benitez's meltdown yesterday afternoon deflected attention from Piazza's erratic arm. Manager Art Howe twice refused to discuss the subject with reporters, but Piazza is facing it head-on.

"I have a tendency to get my steps long and not have a good transfer, not get a good grip. But I'm going to keep working on it," Piazza said. "I owe that to my team and myself, as well, to try to get back on track and at least be a little more consistent."

He started his mini-therapy yesterday, throwing before batting practice and listening to suggestions from bullpen catcher Nelson Silverio, who wants to see Piazza raise his glove-to-hand transfer and shorten his footwork.

Piazza's first throw, which nailed Luis Castillo in the first inning, was a one-hopper inside the right corner of the bag. Steve Trachsel did his part by keeping Castillo honest with four throws to first.

The scene was more frightening 12 hours earlier. With Al Leiter on the mound Friday night, Florida runners stole a season-high six bases - four in one inning - as Piazza's arm betrayed him. One throw hit the pitcher's mound and bounced twice. Another sailed into the outfield. Yet another bounced into centerfield. So even though the Marlins succeeded on 4 of 6 steal attempts in yesterday's 6-5 victory, Piazza's plays were less, well, dramatic.

Marlins manager Jeff Torborg feels Piazza's pain even as he flashes the green light to his flying fish.

"I remember when I was catching Sandy [Koufax], [Lou] Brock stole two bases on us in one game," said Torborg, a former Dodgers catcher. "It's frustrating and it angers you."

Still, he's not about to give Piazza and the Mets' pitching staff a break. Lacking big bats, the Marlins continued their relentless assault on the basepaths. Surprisingly quick 6-5, 230- pound first baseman Derrek Lee stole his seventh and eighth bases of the season, Juan Encarnacion his seventh and Ivan Rodriguez his fourth.

In the sixth, Piazza failed to get Encarnacion with a high toss to second, but he managed to retire Alex Gonzalez at the plate on a botched squeeze play to end Florida's three-run rally.

Torborg said his Marlins, the major-league leaders with 177 stolen bases last season and 38 this season, are not picking on Piazza.

Stealing bases successfully, he said, requires studying pitchers, not catchers. In meetings before every game, the Marlins determine whom they can run on by studying the pitcher's delivery times to the plate. With anything slower than 1.3 seconds from the time the pitcher makes his first move, Torborg said, "we get rolling." Trachsel's times clocked from 1.2 to 1.4 seconds yesterday, according to Torborg.

Torborg did admit to exploiting Piazza's difficulties Friday. The Marlins have an 87-percent success rate against a player Torborg considers a future Hall of Famer.

"He's even trying so hard that I think he's pressing a little bit," Torborg said. "But, yeah, whatever you can do, when you're in the other dugout, you're trying to do what you can to score or advance runners. That's what we try."

Mets general manager Steve Phillips characterized Piazza's struggles as nothing more than a rough patch. "You don't bet against Mike Piazza," he said.

Piazza certainly doesn't. While acknowledging his confidence has been shaken, Piazza said no one should fear he will retreat into a shell. The way to deal with these things, he said, is "you go back to school, so to speak."

He said he will continue to throw before games and at some point might consider soliciting advice from the team's new psychologist, Fran Pirozzolo, who worked with the Yankees when Knoblauch was in pinstripes.

"I don't think I'm quite there yet," Piazza said. "Obviously, you don't have to do it in a formal way. There's casual conversation; maybe there's something he can tell you to just allow you to relax, but you try to draw on your experience and what has worked in the past. Motivation is not a factor because it's a definite pride thing that you have to try to keep improving."

So there won't be a couch parked in front of Piazza's locker anytime soon? "Well," he said, smiling, "don't give me any ideas."

Copyright © 2003, Newsday, Inc.

Bub
04-20-03, 08:52 AM
Before this throwing episode, Piazza's problems were much more related to his mechanics leading up to the throw than the throw itself. When he was throwing straight he was probably average in terms of the time the ball took to get to second base. However, the time it takes him to get rid of the ball has to be the worst I've ever seen. This part of his game will never get better, so even if he gets over his throwing problems he still won't get runners. I think it's time to move him to a new position, preferably in the American League where he could be a productive DH.

Jersey Yankee
04-20-03, 09:38 AM
Originally posted by Bub
Before this throwing episode, Piazza's problems were much more related to his mechanics leading up to the throw than the throw itself. When he was throwing straight he was probably average in terms of the time the ball took to get to second base. However, the time it takes him to get rid of the ball has to be the worst I've ever seen. This part of his game will never get better, so even if he gets over his throwing problems he still won't get runners. I think it's time to move him to a new position, preferably in the American League where he could be a productive DH.No way the Mets give up on him. They'll keep him since so many look upon him as their sole superstar and admire this "best offensive catcher", despite their team's being near the subcellar in all most categories.

I think he should do backup 1B. I doubt he's got the wheels f/the OF, so 1B would be perfect, at least giving Vaughn some relief.

While I think he'd be ideal as a DH/backup catcher, I seriously doubt that'll ever happen, as mentioned above.

backstop20
04-22-03, 07:17 PM
cnn.com 4/22/03 (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/inside_game/tom_verducci/news/2003/04/22/insider/)

Piazza's throwing problems worsen

By Tom Verducci

Mets catcher Mike Piazza calls a good game behind the plate, works hard at blocking balls in the dirt and enjoys taking a leadership role. Despite that lunch-pail ethic, his throwing has become an embarrassment. Last weekend against the Marlins Piazza's arm was so off that the Mets ordered him not to throw to second base in first-and-third situations, a tactic typically reserved for Little League catchers. Florida swiped nine bases in two games (Piazza sat out the third), including six in the series opener. Here's what Piazza did on those six steals:

1. Fired a two-hopper on which the first bounce occurred in front of the pitching rubber.
2. Threw wide right into center field for an error.
3. No throw (on a first-and-third).
4. No throw.
5. No throw (dropped pitch).
6. Bounced a throw center field for an error.

The stolen bases were the baseball equivalent of uncontested layups in basketball. Despite those pratfalls, the Mets won the first game against Florida (program note: we'll save the inflated value of stolen bases for another day) in great part because pitcher Al Leiter erased one of Piazza's throwing miscues by striking out three straight batters with a man on third, the last on four straight curveballs. With Mo Vaughn playing first base, and showing some life in his bat, the thought of Piazza changing positions is a non-issue. But look for opposing teams to run even more on Piazza than they have in the past, a trend that increases the pressure on Mets pitchers to quicken their deliveries and work harder at holding runners -- which can reduce their concentration on getting hitters out.

Copyright © 2003 CNN/Sports Illustrated.

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