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hbk81
03-09-10, 09:33 AM
The New York Yankees announced today that the college football Bowl Game to be held at Yankee Stadium is scheduled for December 30, 2010, and will be called the New Era Pinstripe Bowl with a four-year title-sponsorship agreement in place with head wear and apparel manufacturer New Era Cap Company, Inc.

The agreement provides New Era with exclusive headwear licensing rights and non-exclusive apparel licensing rights on Bowl-Game-related merchandise.

The New Era Pinstripe Bowl will be nationally televised by ESPN, which has also secured national and local radio rights for ESPN Radio. The agreement for both broadcast platforms is for six years through the 2015 game.

Later today, the bowl committee will launch the official New Era Pinstripe Bowl Web site, www.newerapinstripebowl.com (http://www.newerapinstripebowl.com/), where fans can access up-to-the-moment information regarding the game.

The New Era Pinstripe Bowl will pit the Big East team with the third-best conference record against the Big 12 team with the sixth-best conference mark after excluding the conferences' respective BCS teams from consideration.

There is a four-year agreement extending through 2013 for the Big East and Big 12 to participate in the New Era Pinstripe Bowl at Yankee Stadium. In future years beyond 2010, games will take place no earlier than Christmas Day and no later than New Year's Day.

hbk81
03-09-10, 09:34 AM
Its gonna be so cold..

Bozidar
03-09-10, 09:47 AM
why folks go to open air stadiums in the middle of winter for any sport is beyond me.

CommerceComet
03-09-10, 09:58 AM
why folks go to open air stadiums in the middle of winter for any sport is beyond me.That was a question I've asking for years about the Humanitarian Bowl in Boise: Why would anyone want to go to Boise in December to play football? The weather for the new bowl game in Washington, D.C. this past December was horrible.

One other issue I have with a new bowl: don't we already have enough? How many deserving teams didn't get to a bowl? IIRC, every 6-6 team (who was qualified) from a BCS conference got a bowl bid. I think that bowls should be a reward for good teams. Those 6-6 BCS teams probably had 1-2 wins against hand-picked opponents so that they probably really had a losing record against teams with a pulse.

Yankee Fan in Boston
03-09-10, 10:03 AM
I can see Rutgers drawing a pretty good crowd if they make that bowl

Mr. Mxylsplk
03-09-10, 10:07 AM
One other issue I have with a new bowl: don't we already have enough? How many deserving teams didn't get to a bowl? IIRC, every 6-6 team (who was qualified) from a BCS conference got a bowl bid. I think that bowls should be a reward for good teams. Those 6-6 BCS teams probably had 1-2 wins against hand-picked opponents so that they probably really had a losing record against teams with a pulse.
Bowls aren't a reward for good teams, they're a way to make money. So until there isn't money to be made from more bowls, no, we don't have enough. (And conversely, if the yanks don't make money off this game, they're not going to care how deserving the participants may have been when they decide not to renew the contract).

CommerceComet
03-09-10, 10:18 AM
I can see Rutgers drawing a pretty good crowd if they make that bowlSo would Syracuse. However, the Big XII team isn't going to contribute much to the crowd. The team would be the seventh-best or eighth-best team in the Big XII (6th place + one or two BCS teams). The team is not likely to have been successful enough to get the fans so excited about the team that they will travel half-way across the country to watch a bowl game. The alums from around the NYC area might show up but I'm not sure how many alums some of the Big XII schools have in that area. Any profits will probably have to come from the TV contract because I doubt the gate in most years will be that high.

Clete
03-09-10, 10:26 AM
I remember when Yankee Stadium was considered for the Winter Classic, eventually they decided against it.

Don't really see any problem with Yankee Stadium being used as a football arena. Kind of like old times like the 1956 NFL Championship game against the Bears.

CommerceComet
03-09-10, 10:27 AM
Bowls aren't a reward for good teams, they're a way to make money. So until there isn't money to be made from more bowls, no, we don't have enough. Don't get me started on the fraud that is the NCAA. It exists only to legitimize the universites fattening their coffers. You're right, it's all about money. I'm pretty hypocritical on this because I love college athletics but I've worked for universities around the country long enough to see the corrupting influence that big-time college athletics has become.

Mr. Mxylsplk
03-09-10, 10:30 AM
Don't get me started on the fraud that is the NCAA. It exists only to legitimize the universites fattening their coffers. You're right, it's all about money. I'm pretty hypocritical on this because I love college athletics but I've worked for universities around the country long enough to see the corrupting influence that big-time college athletics has become.
I hear you - I don't have the first hand experience you do, but we all know a lot of bad stuff is going on. Yet, I keep watching and going to games. At the end of the day, if we enjoy something, we'll allow ourselves to ignore the seamy underbelly.

Yankee Fan in Boston
03-09-10, 10:39 AM
Don't get me started on the fraud that is the NCAA. It exists only to legitimize the universites fattening their coffers. You're right, it's all about money. I'm pretty hypocritical on this because I love college athletics but I've worked for universities around the country long enough to see the corrupting influence that big-time college athletics has become.

It's hardly the biggest piece of it, but this is also why we don't have a playoff system. It's fascinating how they can manage to argue against this when every other sport (including the lower divisions in football) have a playoff system

BRNXBMRS
03-09-10, 10:49 AM
Love the idea, I hope we get a blizzard or a massive rain storm on 12/30/10

the_coach
03-09-10, 10:49 AM
A quick check from last year's standings would have matched Rutgers (3-4 conf, 9-4 overall); UConn (3-4, 8-5); or S. Florida (3-4, 8-5) Vs Missouri (4-4, 8-5) or Kansas St (4-4, 6-6).

Probably a Rutgers Vs Missouri game as their first choice.

EDIT: typo

BronxYanks45
03-09-10, 11:35 AM
ugh, not a big fan of using yankee stadium for anything other than baseball.

effdamets
03-09-10, 11:47 AM
ugh, not a big fan of using yankee stadium for anything other than baseball.
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Dexter Morgan
03-09-10, 11:54 AM
ugh, not a big fan of using yankee stadium for anything other than baseball.

Why not? The old Yankee Stadium held Boxing, concerts, the Pope, soccer, football, ect...

CommerceComet
03-09-10, 12:28 PM
A quick check from last year's standings would have matched Rutgers (3-4 conf, 9-4 overall); UConn (3-4, 8-5); or S. Florida (3-4, 8-5) Vs Missouri (4-4, 8-5) or Kansas St (4-4, 6-6).

Probably a Rutgers Vs Missouri game as their first choice.

EDIT: typoIt would not have been K-State because they didn't have 6 qualifying wins since 2 of their wins were against FCS teams (formerly known as D-1aa) and only one is allowed. A scheduling blunder left (along with a lot of other blunders elsewhere) by their former HC which Bill Synder had to live with.

Bumping out K-State would have probably put Iowa State or A&M in the game. Missouri would have been 5th after excluding Texas (the BCS team). I'm not sure how the tie would have been broken between the two but I'm sure that both teams would prefer a Texas bowl game to a bowl in NYC. Texas is the primary recruiting ground for the Big XII plus being a shorter trip for their fans.

nnysiny
03-09-10, 12:59 PM
Why not? The old Yankee Stadium held Boxing, concerts, the Pope, soccer, football, ect...
not to mention that the new one should be better built to handle those types of things

Kentucky Bomber
03-09-10, 01:06 PM
Why not? The old Yankee Stadium held Boxing, concerts, the Pope, soccer, football, ect...

Now if they could get boxing, a concert, the Pope, soccer and football simultaneously that would be worth watching.

NYYRules#1
03-09-10, 02:34 PM
ugh, not a big fan of using yankee stadium for anything other than baseball.

Why not? The new Stadium was built to accomodate a wide range of events, including boxing matches, college football, various ceremonies, etc. The Yankees never intended the new stadium to be a single-purpose venue. And events like these extend the stadium from being an 81 dates a year (plus somewhere between zero and 11 playoff dates, with most years usually tending towards the low end of that spectrum) venue to a few more high-revenue events every year. It only makes sense to maximize the possible revenue from such an expensive and lasting investment by holding more events there.

Plus, OYS hosted both pro and college football from 1923 until 1973, hosted soccer (NY Cosmos - the great Pele was on that team) in 1976 (and a few other one-off matches throughout its history), hosted boxing from 1923 to 1976, hosted an annual Jehovah's Witness convention, and was the most frequent venue in the entire United States for Papal masses (I don't think any other place in the US, including churches, has hosted 3 Papal masses). That was far more of a multi-purpose venue than NYS ever will be.

(And I presume that a problem with non-baseball events being held at YS would also mean a problem with parties and other gatherings being held in NYY Steak or one of the conference rooms, which happen quite often - and which just about every baseball stadium has.)

Blazer
03-09-10, 04:24 PM
That was a question I've asking for years about the Humanitarian Bowl in Boise: Why would anyone want to go to Boise in December to play football? The weather for the new bowl game in Washington, D.C. this past December was horrible.

One other issue I have with a new bowl: don't we already have enough? How many deserving teams didn't get to a bowl? IIRC, every 6-6 team (who was qualified) from a BCS conference got a bowl bid. I think that bowls should be a reward for good teams. Those 6-6 BCS teams probably had 1-2 wins against hand-picked opponents so that they probably really had a losing record against teams with a pulse.

Winter in Boise isn't what you think it is. There's very little snow and an abundance of sun shine. Typically day time highs are in the 40's with lows in the mid 20's. Best 12 month climate of anywhere in the USA outside CA and HI.



Bowls aren't a reward for good teams, they're a way to make money. So until there isn't money to be made from more bowls, no, we don't have enough. (And conversely, if the yanks don't make money off this game, they're not going to care how deserving the participants may have been when they decide not to renew the contract).

You're right about the bowls making money, but outside of the BCS teams are lucky to break even for bowl games. It's the networks that make the dough.

BillBuckner
03-09-10, 04:27 PM
I like when Yankee Stadium hosts non baseball events like these. That's one of the reason's the old Stadium was beloved by baseball and non baseball fan alike was all of the other aforementioned stuff that went on. Events like these just add to the prestige and the glamour of the place. I'd LOVE to see a Rangers Winter Classic game there at some point.

I'm A Wenner!
03-09-10, 04:29 PM
You're right about the bowls making money, but outside of the BCS teams are lucky to break even for bowl games. It's the networks that make the dough.

This is a myth. If schools didn't make money as a result of bowl games, they wouldn't play in them.

Blazer
03-09-10, 04:31 PM
This is a myth. If schools didn't make money as a result of bowl games, they wouldn't play in them.

No it's not. Schools play in the second tier bowls for prestige. It's a great recruiting platform.

I'm A Wenner!
03-09-10, 04:34 PM
No it's not. Schools play in the second tier bowls for prestige. It's a great recruiting platform.

It also results in increased enrollment and advertising dollars. They might not make a ton of money up front, but they make money.

RhodyYanksFan
03-10-10, 06:57 AM
This really stinks. Now there's no way the Winter Classic could be at Yankee Stadium. There's way more hockey fans than college football fans in the NY metro area.

SLURPEE
03-10-10, 07:13 AM
Eh. This game will be the reason why there will be no Winter Classic at Yankee Stadium. BOOOOOO! :mad:

GordonGecko
06-11-10, 09:00 AM
So, is anyone buying tickets to this thing today?

http://i655.photobucket.com/albums/uu273/areacode212/pinstripe_bowl.jpg
http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/nyy/ballpark/bowl_tickets_sth.jsp

GordonGecko
06-11-10, 11:02 AM
WTF? no $30 grandstand available

RhodyYanksFan
06-11-10, 11:51 AM
What will happen when there's no more Big XII?

Yanks1976
06-11-10, 11:58 AM
What will happen when there's no more Big XII?

That is a great point...after all this realignment the Bowl agreements will probably all have to be redone across the board. From Wikipedia the Big 12 Bowls are:

Big 12 Conference
2010-2013:[2]

#1 Bowl Championship Series. The winner of the Big 12 Championship Game receives an automatic berth to a BCS bowl game, preferentially the Tostitos Fiesta Bowl.
#2 The Cotton Bowl Classic receives the second choice of Big 12 teams.
#3 The Alamo Bowl receives the third choice of Big 12 teams.
#4 The Insight Bowl receives the fourth choice of Big 12 teams.
#5 The Holiday Bowl receive the fifth choice of Big 12 teams.
#6 The Texas Bowl receives the sixth choice of Big 12 teams.
#7 The Pinstripe Bowl receives the seventh choice of Big 12 teams.
#8 The Dallas Football Classic would receive the eighth choice of Big 12 teams following the 2010 and 2012 seasons should the NCAA Football Issues Committee approve the game, while the EagleBank Bowl receives the eighth choice of Big 12 teams following the 2013 season. In addition the Dallas Football Classic or the EagleBank Bowl will have the eighth choice of Big 12 teams if the bowl's primary partners are not available following the 2011 season.


The Cotton (B12 #2 vs. SEC) and Alamo Bowls (B12 #3 vs. Pac-10 #2) were pretty good matchups. How will those be restructured?

GordonGecko
06-11-10, 01:16 PM
Pulled the trigger on tickets, was able to get the best value seats out there. $30 Grandstand 415, row 1. Should be a fun game


OT @Yanks1976: Funny Avatar!

machphantom
06-12-10, 01:32 AM
I know it'll never happen, but I would love if the ACC decided to nudge in there somehow. If I could see Maryland play at the Stadium, I would flip.

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