View Full Version : The 2009-10 New Jersey Nets Thread
YanksFan1992
08-27-09, 06:32 PM
Made for Joba-Walkee.
Joba-Walkee
08-27-09, 07:18 PM
Thank you kindly.
Anyone else titillated at the thought of watching a team who's only purpose is to be the centerpiece of a real estate development? I AM!
Joba-Walkee
08-28-09, 05:28 PM
http://www.netsdaily.com/?p=8619
Getting a pick for Dooling or Alston (preferably Alston, unless the FO is already set on getting out of Dooling's contract via buyout) makes the Carter trade a whole lot easier to swallow.
Joba-Walkee
09-02-09, 11:37 AM
The Nets just hired John Loyer (http://www.netsdaily.com/?p=8648)
He's been credited a lot with the development of Thaddeus Young, and everything I've heard about him points to him being a great defensive coach. Looks like a really good pick up.
parkerstrong
09-04-09, 08:39 AM
http://www.netsdaily.com/?p=8619
Getting a pick for Dooling or Alston (preferably Alston, unless the FO is already set on getting out of Dooling's contract via buyout) makes the Carter trade a whole lot easier to swallow.
I agree. Save money and get more assets instead of just letting him go at the end of the season. I'm sure the Heat will want to move salary back since they are over the tax already, so we will see if it shakes out.
Joba-Walkee
09-04-09, 12:36 PM
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=lam2u6
Nets move Howard to PF, and field the best 1-5 ever, with Lee and TWill on the bench :D
On a serious note:
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=nbthsf
Heat add in their first round draft pick.
Joba-Walkee
09-04-09, 12:46 PM
I'm extremely excited about the upcoming season. Yi supposedly looked great in FIBA competition, and actually played with a pair. CDR and TWill have been in the gym working on their shots all season. Brook's been working on post moves, asserting himself in the post, and, to speak of his work ethic, he's been doing defensive drills to work on his pick-and-roll defense, and defensive instincts. Bill Walton is open to mentoring and teaching Brook. Can you imagine that conversation? IMO, Walton is one of the best passing big men of all time, and if he can teach Brook just that, he's got a good chance for an all-star team a few years down the road. He's just a 20/10/3/3 waiting to happen, if he learns from Walton's passing ability.
A Harris, Lee, Williams, Yi, Lopez starting line up should be good defensively, if the offensive load doesn't kill Harris , Lee, and Lopez.
Can't wait for basketball season to start.
chanman7483
09-05-09, 03:16 PM
I'm extremely excited about the upcoming season. Yi supposedly looked great in FIBA competition, and actually played with a pair. CDR and TWill have been in the gym working on their shots all season. Brook's been working on post moves, asserting himself in the post, and, to speak of his work ethic, he's been doing defensive drills to work on his pick-and-roll defense, and defensive instincts. Bill Walton is open to mentoring and teaching Brook. Can you imagine that conversation? IMO, Walton is one of the best passing big men of all time, and if he can teach Brook just that, he's got a good chance for an all-star team a few years down the road. He's just a 20/10/3/3 waiting to happen, if he learns from Walton's passing ability.
A Harris, Lee, Williams, Yi, Lopez starting line up should be good defensively, if the offensive load doesn't kill Harris , Lee, and Lopez.
Can't wait for basketball season to start.
Good to see another big NBA fan around these parts! Welcome dude..
Huge Lopez fan. Where did you hear about Walton coming in to help him.. and why? Devin Harris is on my radar for this year's fantasy team.. love his game, what a beast! And I have absolutely zero faith in the Yi stuff you posted..It's Yi for godsake hahaha.
Joba-Walkee
09-05-09, 07:49 PM
http://www.nj.com/nets/index.ssf/2009/09/nj_nets_the_prodigal_son_retur.html
About that Bill Walton fascination L-Frank is having right now: Did he ever think of asking Mr. Bill to come out here to work with Senor Pez personally?
"Kiki and I had talked about it, but we're not sure he can travel yet," the coach said. "But if he can, I'd love to have Bill out here with us."
We took the liberty of passing that along to Mr. Bill, who was just getting home from a full day of physical therapy, and is reasonably ambulatory just 206 days after his spinal fusion surgery.
"I am ready, willing and able to do this with Mr. Lopez, Kiki, Coach Frank, and the New Jersey Nets," said the man who is arguably the greatest center of all time, if "all time" could be condensed into just two seasons ('76-78). "Please have them contact me directly, and we'll get this done."
Harris still has below average court vision, and was a pretty bad defender last season, probably because he spent so much energy on offense. That's why I'm glad they drafted TWill- he's a born playmaker, and plays great defense.
I'm cold on Yi as well. But, honestly, he did look pretty damn good on offense, and he's bulked up significantly. He's still lost defensively, though.
Joba-Walkee
09-17-09, 01:58 PM
http://www.reuters.com/article/privateEquity/idUSLH62477320090917
Thank god. So, so, so happy about this.
Joba-Walkee
09-18-09, 05:34 PM
http://russiatoday.com/Top_News/2009-09-18/russia-billionaire-buy-nets.html
Pretty much done. Awesome.
Joba-Walkee
09-22-09, 03:58 PM
(Lots) more news on the Russian prospective owner. (http://www.netsdaily.com/?p=8739)
He's confirmed he's made a bid. Awesome
Joba-Walkee
09-23-09, 03:34 PM
http://www.netsdaily.com/?p=8747
"Ratner, Prokhorov Set Deal — Russian Gets 80% of Nets, 45% of Arena"
YESSSSSSS.
Should be sweet to have a new eccentric billionaire in New York sports
I hope his pitch to Lebron includes a complimentary nuclear sub.
Joba-Walkee
09-23-09, 05:05 PM
Should be sweet to have a new eccentric billionaire in New York sports
I hope his pitch to Lebron includes a complimentary nuclear sub.
Or some high quality french hookers. ;)
Now that the Russian guy is buying the team when they move to Brooklyn they will be known at the Brooklyn Nyets.
Joba-Walkee
09-23-09, 07:28 PM
Bit late on that one :P
http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba/2009/09/the-new-jersey-nyets/
http://njmg.typepad.com/zzone/2009/09/the-nyets.html
Bit late on that one :P
http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba/2009/09/the-new-jersey-nyets/
http://njmg.typepad.com/zzone/2009/09/the-nyets.html
very late and I thought that I was being witty:D
Joba-Walkee
09-23-09, 11:18 PM
http://www.netsdaily.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=38446#p38445
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g135/gmjigga/savior.jpg
Joba-Walkee
09-24-09, 01:56 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AmPnHckmIGr2TWtZoDD3OBG8vLYF?slug=aw-lebronnets092309&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
"One NBA executive with strong Eastern European ties says to expect Russian and Lithuanian basketball legends Sarunas Marciulionis and Arvydas Sabonis to be included in a dramatically changed Nets organization."
Getting Sabonis to teach Lopez would be absolutely incredible.
chanman7483
09-24-09, 02:56 PM
http://www.netsdaily.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=38446#p38445
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g135/gmjigga/savior.jpg
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
At 6'9, he could probably go out there and lace them up and put up a few 3's. This is a movie waiting to happen..
RYMASTER or Ryan_Yankees
09-24-09, 04:03 PM
Can the Dolans sell the Knicks to this guy instead? Please?
Joba-Walkee
09-26-09, 03:06 PM
http://www.netsdaily.com/blog/?p=1424
Great article, in case you missed anything.
Joba-Walkee
10-03-09, 10:39 PM
First game of the preseason tomorrow. Extremely excited.
For anyone who missed the open house:
http://www.netsdaily.com/?p=8841
Joba-Walkee
10-27-09, 10:26 PM
http://www.netsdaily.com/?p=9006
If all goes according to plan, the Nets will make a 1 season stop over in Newark.
Season starts tomorrow, hoping to find a stream of it so I can watch that and the Yankee game.
Joba-Walkee
10-28-09, 07:40 PM
Lopez has 10/7/4 (blocks)/ 2 (assists)/ 1 (steal) in 10 minutes of play. Damn
After three, for lopez:
27/12/4/4, and he's making Al Jefferson his bitch, defensively.
Joba-Walkee
11-02-09, 08:59 PM
This team is so bad.
Joba-Walkee
11-09-09, 10:50 AM
Really, really impressed with the team's last two games. They've been down to 8 men, and they've hung around in both games.
Joba-Walkee
11-11-09, 08:55 PM
Brook Lopez got his jersey tugged, got hacked in the back, and washacked on the head on the game winning attempt. No call.
Brook Lopez got his jersey tugged, got hacked in the back, and washacked on the head on the game winning attempt. No call.
that was pretty bad call...
dabomb2045
11-11-09, 10:38 PM
Question for Nets fans.....why do you still play at craptastic Izod Center? Why not just play your home games in Newark? That arena is beautiful. I've been there a few times for Devils games and a Bon Jovi concert.
Izod is run down--just an awful arena....easily the worst in the NBA right now. Why not bounce outta there and move to the state of the art place? Stay there permanently if the Brooklyn thing doesnt work out, or if it does at least you'll be playing somewhere nice in the mean time.
RYMASTER or Ryan_Yankees
11-11-09, 10:49 PM
Question for Nets fans.....why do you still play at craptastic Izod Center? Why not just play your home games in Newark? That arena is beautiful. I've been there a few times for Devils games and a Bon Jovi concert.
Izod is run down--just an awful arena....easily the worst in the NBA right now. Why not bounce outta there and move to the state of the art place? Stay there permanently if the Brooklyn thing doesnt work out, or if it does at least you'll be playing somewhere nice in the mean time.
I think they played a few preseason games in Newark, and I vaguely recall that there were some talks of moving there for 2010-11 at least temporarily. If Brooklyn falls through, I see no way they don't go to Newark.
YanksFan1992
11-11-09, 10:57 PM
Why don't we just merge our two teams? :lol:
Gives us a roster of Devin Harris, Courtney Lee, Brook Lopez, Yi Jianlian, Terrence Williams, Sean Williams, Nate Robinson, David Lee, Danilo Gallinari, Wilson Chandler and Jordan Hill.
Wait a minute.....that team would still really suck.
I think they played a few preseason games in Newark, and I vaguely recall that there were some talks of moving there for 2010-11 at least temporarily. If Brooklyn falls through, I see no way they don't go to Newark.
Mikhail Prokhorov is their owner. It's hard to imagine the Brooklyn plan will fail.
RYMASTER or Ryan_Yankees
11-11-09, 11:10 PM
Mikhail Prokhorov is their owner. It's hard to imagine the Brooklyn plan will fail.
I don't see Brooklyn happening. Just don't.
I don't see Brooklyn happening. Just don't.
It depends on how much money Prokhorov wants to spend in Brooklyn. If he really wants, he can make it happan.
gadvfreak99
11-12-09, 11:55 AM
Just move the damn team to Newark. Get a good draft pick this year since they suck oh so much, and then use the money coming off the books to attract 2 big free agents combine that with Harris Lopez and Lee and there you.
chanman7483
11-12-09, 12:03 PM
The Newark arena feels like an airport.. just a generic stadium that has no character. It would be no better than IZOD, other than a slightly more convenient location.
Snatch Catch
11-12-09, 12:06 PM
What is the consensus on the Broolkyn project now? Is it up for vote again soon or something?
Joba-Walkee
11-12-09, 02:14 PM
Question for Nets fans.....why do you still play at craptastic Izod Center? Why not just play your home games in Newark? That arena is beautiful. I've been there a few times for Devils games and a Bon Jovi concert.
Izod is run down--just an awful arena....easily the worst in the NBA right now. Why not bounce outta there and move to the state of the art place? Stay there permanently if the Brooklyn thing doesnt work out, or if it does at least you'll be playing somewhere nice in the mean time.
Izod is a ................hole, yes, but FCE would have to pay a large sum (10 million) to the company they're getting their lease from to move to any city besides Brooklyn and three others (I forget which). That 10 million is a lot for a team that bleeds 60 million a year.
However, The Rock and The Izod have an agreement now in place saying all sporting events to the Rock, and all other events to the Izod. So, in all likelihood, the Nets will be in The Rock next year, until Brooklyn is completed the following year. If BK falls through, they're leaving the trystate area. NJ just hasn't shown to be a viable nba market.
Joba-Walkee
11-12-09, 02:15 PM
It depends on how much money Prokhorov wants to spend in Brooklyn. If he really wants, he can make it happan.
Not really. He can't make people give up their houses, if eminent domain falls through. Also, as the deal is presently constructed, Prokhorov's ownership is constituent on BK passing through.
Joba-Walkee
11-12-09, 02:18 PM
Just move the damn team to Newark. Get a good draft pick this year since they suck oh so much, and then use the money coming off the books to attract 2 big free agents combine that with Harris Lopez and Lee and there you.
Do'h! It's so simple. I can't believe no one thought of that sooner!
Joba-Walkee
11-12-09, 02:18 PM
The Newark arena feels like an airport.. just a generic stadium that has no character. It would be no better than IZOD, other than a slightly more convenient location.
I disagree completely. It's a state of the art arena that is right next to a train station. If the market was viable, I'd love to have the team there.
Joba-Walkee
11-12-09, 02:22 PM
What is the consensus on the Broolkyn project now? Is it up for vote again soon or something?
I don't think anything is being voted on now. It's passed all of its trials so far; the biggest hurdle remaining is eminent domain.
njdhockey
11-12-09, 08:22 PM
The Newark arena feels like an airport.. just a generic stadium that has no character. It would be no better than IZOD, other than a slightly more convenient location.
This is a joke right? The difference between what was the dump known as the CAA and The Rock is huge.
I'm hoping the Nets end up in Newark full time. I know I'd go to some games based on how nice the arena is and the convenience of the location. Plus the Devils could benefit from that.
Joba-Walkee
11-13-09, 06:38 PM
Nets up 4 after 1 against the Magic. Incredible when you realize the starting line up is Alston, Hassell, Simmons, Boone, and Lopez, and we've been giving up everything to Howard to stay out of foul trouble.
Joba-Walkee
11-14-09, 08:58 PM
Brutal. This is ridiculous.
Brutal. This is ridiculous.
that was sad.
Joba-Walkee
11-14-09, 09:07 PM
You can't fault anyone on the team, or Frank, though. Fantastic effort, great job by everyone. They're just not severely undermanned and severely lacking in talent
Joba-Walkee
11-14-09, 09:35 PM
The Nets lost out on Brandon Jennings due to a coinflip.
YanksFan1992
11-14-09, 10:14 PM
The Nets lost out on Brandon Jennings due to a coinflip.
The Knicks lost out on Brandon Jennings because we're really freaking stupid.
I'd prefer to be in your situation.
Joba-Walkee
11-21-09, 12:43 PM
God I missed Devin. Love seeing him back.
26 and counting
11-21-09, 10:52 PM
0-13. The losing continues.
RYMASTER or Ryan_Yankees
11-22-09, 02:25 PM
I gotta imagine Lawrence Frank is in a bit of trouble, no?
Joba-Walkee
11-24-09, 04:40 PM
I gotta imagine Lawrence Frank is in a bit of trouble, no?
Yep. Which is a real shame, because he is a fantastic coach. The Nets are a terribly run franchise though, so maybe it's good for him.
http://www.netsdaily.com/?p=9270
Brooklyn is looking good.
Joba-Walkee
11-24-09, 05:28 PM
http://www.netsdaily.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2905&view=unread#p46187
Good overview of the Brooklyn goings.
26 and counting
11-28-09, 05:44 PM
Do the Nets really have to play the Lakers tomorrow night? I mean, do they have any chance of winning and avoiding a tie for the worst start to a season in NBA history?
Joba-Walkee
11-29-09, 11:07 AM
Frank to be fired. I am jealous.
ZYanksRule
11-29-09, 06:46 PM
You've gotta feel for Lawrence Frank here. This is clearly not his fault, it's clearly nothing he did. Thorn didn't give him the horses to compete, and then forces him to take the hit for not competing. Sad ending for a quite decent coach.
Joba-Walkee
11-29-09, 06:49 PM
You've gotta feel for Lawrence Frank here. This is clearly not his fault, it's clearly nothing he did. Thorn didn't give him the horses to compete, and then forces him to take the hit for not competing. Sad ending for a quite decent coach.
He's been more than decent since his inception as the Nets head coach. Have you see the roster he's had to go to war with? Check out the 2005-2006 season. I have no idea how that roster won 49 games.
26 and counting
11-29-09, 10:32 PM
Nets down by 20+ vs the Lakers in the 4th, on their way to 0-17.
Joba-Walkee
11-29-09, 10:44 PM
http://www.northjersey.com/sports/OConnor_Firing_cant_erase_Franks_fantastic_voyage.html
Great read on Coach Frank.
dabomb2045
11-29-09, 10:51 PM
I dont get how the Nets are THIS bad. I mean there is no way they should be 0-17....there is some talent on that roster. Hell, I'd take the Nets roster over the Knicks roster...thats for sure.
DaSh 1s
11-29-09, 11:02 PM
I'm extremely excited about the upcoming season. Yi supposedly looked great in FIBA competition, and actually played with a pair. CDR and TWill have been in the gym working on their shots all season. Brook's been working on post moves, asserting himself in the post, and, to speak of his work ethic, he's been doing defensive drills to work on his pick-and-roll defense, and defensive instincts. Bill Walton is open to mentoring and teaching Brook. Can you imagine that conversation? IMO, Walton is one of the best passing big men of all time, and if he can teach Brook just that, he's got a good chance for an all-star team a few years down the road. He's just a 20/10/3/3 waiting to happen, if he learns from Walton's passing ability.
A Harris, Lee, Williams, Yi, Lopez starting line up should be good defensively, if the offensive load doesn't kill Harris , Lee, and Lopez.
Can't wait for basketball season to start.
Can't wait for basketball season to end?
Joba-Walkee
11-29-09, 11:35 PM
I dont get how the Nets are THIS bad. I mean there is no way they should be 0-17....there is some talent on that roster. Hell, I'd take the Nets roster over the Knicks roster...thats for sure.
For the future, absolutely. Right now? No, I'd take the Knicks roster. They at least have some depth.
Joba-Walkee
11-29-09, 11:37 PM
Can't wait for basketball season to end?
No, because then I get to watch the ping-pong balls give the Nets the 4th pick.
Brick Tamland
11-30-09, 11:45 AM
0-17 is rough. Tough to believe they won't eclipse that mark with Dallas coming to town. Maybe they can beat Charlotte to stop the bleeding and go 1-18.
But at least the Nets have a pick coming to them after this season.
Joba-Walkee
11-30-09, 07:18 PM
Kiki is the new coach. I can't wait to see him get canned.
RYMASTER or Ryan_Yankees
12-01-09, 03:29 PM
Any chance of the Nets beating Dallas tomorrow night? Any?
Joba-Walkee
12-01-09, 11:58 PM
Any chance of the Nets beating Dallas tomorrow night? Any?
Better question: How long will it take for Sean Williams / Josh Boone to foul out while trying to defend Dirk? If Sean is in, I'll put the over/under at 20 minutes.
dabomb2045
12-02-09, 07:40 PM
Any chance of the Nets beating Dallas tomorrow night? Any?
No. I just watched the 1st half....and....damn. Dallas scored 77 in the half, 49 alone in the 2nd quarter. They are shooting 80% from the field.
RYMASTER or Ryan_Yankees
12-02-09, 10:06 PM
Will the Nets "beat" the 1972-73 76ers record of 9 wins?
Snatch Catch
12-02-09, 10:15 PM
Will the Nets "beat" the 1972-73 76ers record of 9 wins?
I think they've got a great shot to begin digging themselves out this weekend.
The attendance was over 11,000 tonight. How is that possible?
The attendance was over 11,000 tonight. How is that possible?
the opportunity to witness history and i'm sure freebies.
hellonewman
12-02-09, 10:54 PM
Congratulations New Jersey Nets.
Brick Tamland
12-03-09, 06:29 AM
A lot of blood sweat and tears but the Nets have finally climbed the mountain and stand alone in the record books.
Joba-Walkee
12-03-09, 08:09 PM
the opportunity to witness history and i'm sure freebies.
You can get free, lower level tickets for nearly every Wednesday game.
RYMASTER or Ryan_Yankees
12-04-09, 09:41 PM
The crowd reaction at the end there almost reminded me of how Sox fans would give Ortiz a standing O everytime he flew out to the warning track in May.
TierReservedCreature
12-05-09, 12:44 AM
I have no idea who any of the Nets players are, but one of them was actually doing a little dance on the sideline in the final seconds. Just a little over the top for celebrating your first win 19 games into the season.
Joba-Walkee
12-05-09, 08:24 PM
I have no idea who any of the Nets players are, but one of them was actually doing a little dance on the sideline in the final seconds. Just a little over the top for celebrating your first win 19 games into the season.
It was Terrence Williams. It was his first win in the NBA. He wasn't celebrating himself, he had a crappy game, but he was celebrating the team. I loved seeing it.
Joba-Walkee
12-07-09, 02:16 PM
http://twitter.com/TheRealTWill/status/6433760597
Great, now the only player I don't have to force myself not to dislike on this team is Brook.
RYMASTER or Ryan_Yankees
12-07-09, 03:57 PM
Wow. :lol:
chanman7483
12-08-09, 10:36 AM
It was Terrence Williams. It was his first win in the NBA. He wasn't celebrating himself, he had a crappy game, but he was celebrating the team. I loved seeing it.
He was jerkin... :lol:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YhIEoc1sCU&feature=related
Terrence Williams is a colorful character...
b_joseph
12-10-09, 05:36 PM
The Nets could sign Bosh, LBJ, and draft Wall #1
then sign and trade Devin Harris for a two guard like Joe
Johnson or Josh Howard
John Wall
Joe Johnson
LBJ
Bosh
Lopez (the good one)
Any questions??
26 and counting
12-13-09, 03:52 PM
Wow, it looks like Michael Kay is calling the Nets game today on YES.? And here I thought that things for NJ couldn't get any worse.
SI Baseballman
12-13-09, 06:25 PM
Wow, it looks like Michael Kay is calling the Nets game today on YES.? And here I thought that things for NJ couldn't get any worse.
I'm surprised they didn't get John Sterling to do it, especially since he was the broadcaster for the Hawks back in the 80's, the team the Nets were playing against tonight.
26 and counting
12-13-09, 09:11 PM
The Nets gave up 130 points tonight, which might still be less than the Giants allow.
Joba-Walkee
12-18-09, 11:02 PM
New rock bottom. On the plus side, Brooklyn is pretty much a lock, and the Prokhorov looks like he is in.
RYMASTER or Ryan_Yankees
12-19-09, 06:29 AM
I can't see this teaming beating the 9-73 all time worst record for one season.
Joba-Walkee
12-19-09, 06:39 PM
I can't see this teaming beating the 9-73 all time worst record for one season.
I can totally see it. Under Frank, maybe not. Under Kiki? We're a mess.
A snowed in night, Nets/Lakers . Life doesn't get much more exciting.
Joba-Walkee
12-19-09, 08:29 PM
The NEts are up in the third quarter. I say there's an 80% chance we lose by 20
Joba-Walkee
12-19-09, 09:39 PM
1 point off. So close.
Joba-Walkee
12-23-09, 01:58 PM
I don't see Brooklyn happening. Just don't.
http://www.netsdaily.com/?p=9531
It's happening.
RYMASTER or Ryan_Yankees
12-23-09, 02:09 PM
http://www.netsdaily.com/?p=9531
It's happening.
Eminent domain to make the rich richer. Shame on this country.
chanman7483
12-23-09, 06:18 PM
http://www.netsdaily.com/?p=9531
It's happening.
What a great location as well - I used to live right there, and every subway line goes through the Atlantic Center (10-15 mins outside Manhattan via subway, 5 minutes if traffic is good by car) , including express stops. It's a safe area, but parking is going to be a b*tch. I'm assuming they will also build some sort of multi-level parking garage over there as well.
26 and counting
12-24-09, 07:02 AM
If the Nets can't beat the T-Wolves at home, then who are they going to beat?
Joba-Walkee
12-24-09, 08:26 AM
If the Nets can't beat the T-Wolves at home, then who are they going to beat?
No one. Get used to it.
A lot of people are saying the Nets would have won if Lopez had played up to his usual level. I call BS; Yi, Lee, and Devin all played very well, and considering how those three usually suck, it totally outweighs Lopez doing poorly.
Tommy1961
12-24-09, 01:44 PM
This is the worst team the Nets have EVER had but i'm still a fan of them.
Thataway to Piscataway!!!!
Joba-Walkee
12-27-09, 11:00 PM
“We didn’t win the Cold War to have our American state government seize our land for Mother Russia!”
http://www.netsdaily.com/?p=9560
Woosh, there went their credibility.
Joba-Walkee
12-30-09, 08:55 PM
Great success!
chanman7483
01-02-10, 12:42 PM
watching nets/cavs from IZOD. Why are the Nets wearing their road reds while the Cavs are going with home whites? This happens every now and then randomly throughout the NBA... and it confuses me everytime they do it.
Also, it happens in the NFL too, where I guess it's the opposite - teams mainly wear the colored uni's at home..
Joba-Walkee
01-03-10, 12:47 AM
watching nets/cavs from IZOD. Why are the Nets wearing their road reds while the Cavs are going with home whites? This happens every now and then randomly throughout the NBA... and it confuses me everytime they do it.
Also, it happens in the NFL too, where I guess it's the opposite - teams mainly wear the colored uni's at home..
If you were one of the people there just to watch LeBron, and booed Dooling when he stopped him on the fast break with a foul, I will disown you. :P
chanman7483
01-03-10, 10:49 AM
If you were one of the people there just to watch LeBron, and booed Dooling when he stopped him on the fast break with a foul, I will disown you. :P
:lol: I probably would've if I was there! Actually Lebron had a pretty quiet (for him) game. He had a few moments with his blocks and that dunk, but other than that, he had a 'quiet' 28 points.
Joba-Walkee
01-24-10, 12:06 AM
http://www.netsdaily.com/?p=9779
Woop woop!
Joba-Walkee
02-12-10, 08:32 PM
http://www.netsdaily.com/?p=9970
Yessss
http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/65209/20100308/david_lee_interested_in_nets/
Interesting.
If the Nets get Wall, they can trade Harris for something useful. Then adding Lee would make their starting five very solid.
Joba-Walkee
03-09-10, 04:14 PM
I'd be pissed if Lee is our big catch, and IMO, he's a crappy fit. Lopez's defense is passable, but he definitely needs a solid defender next to him. Lee is not that.
I'd be pissed if Lee is our big catch, and IMO, he's a crappy fit. Lopez's defense is passable, but he definitely needs a solid defender next to him. Lee is not that.
The big catches will be Wall and the trade of Harris. I doubt they can sign Bosh/Wade/Joe Johnson/James.
Joba-Walkee
03-10-10, 07:04 PM
The big catches will be Wall and the trade of Harris. I doubt they can sign Bosh/Wade/Joe Johnson/James.
I've been loving Harris's improved play, if only because it ups his trade value. I wanted to trade him after last season, when his value was astronomical.
I don't think they can get Bosh, Wade, JJ, or LeBron either. I think there are other ways to build though, I just hope whoever is in charge by then realizes that.
Joba-Walkee
03-20-10, 02:54 PM
http://www.nj.com/nets/index.ssf/2010/03/get_to_10_is_nets_rallying_cry.html
http://www.netsdaily.com/2010/3/17/1377510/no-local-tv-for-three-april-games
This is an NBA team, no joke.
They need a real coach who can teach them defense.
Joba-Walkee
03-20-10, 03:21 PM
They need a real coach who can teach them defense.
They had a great coach in Lawrence Frank. Kiki Vandeweghe is a joke, and everyone knew that going in.
Joba-Walkee
03-26-10, 09:26 PM
http://thumbnails.truveo.com/0002/59/5D/595D281EE2F74F8ED16C32_Large.jpg
Joba-Walkee
03-28-10, 06:37 PM
There's going to be a 60 minutes story about Proky on tonight.
hongchihkuo
03-29-10, 09:27 PM
good job, Nets.
RYMASTER or Ryan_Yankees
03-29-10, 10:24 PM
They beat Celtics and Spurs in one 10 (or so) win season. Pretty unexpected.
hellonewman
03-29-10, 10:29 PM
The dream is dead?
RYMASTER or Ryan_Yankees
03-29-10, 10:36 PM
The dream is dead?
There's always the next two lame duck New Jersey years. Don't fret.
Joba-Walkee
03-30-10, 08:01 AM
Prokhorov's promised to build a championship team "in two to three years".
Do you really want to argue with this guy?:
http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/776/ria400642previewprohoro.jpg
Besides, I can't see them matching this again. They'll get to play the Knicks 4 times, and they'll probably sweep their line up of Douglas, Gallo, and Chandler.
Joba-Walkee
04-04-10, 10:33 PM
http://www.northjersey.com/sports/040510_Source_Nets_ready_to_make_Mike_Krzyzewski_a_big_offer.html
The Nets’ offer likely will be between $12 million and $15 million per season for Krzyzewski to be their coach and perhaps general manager, a source said.
wat
dabomb2045
04-05-10, 07:45 AM
He's not leaving Duke. This is a guy who turned down the Lakers job a few years back. He has a perfect existence at Duke---he wins alot and he's a God down there. Would make no sense to give that up to coach the lowly Nets.
Joba-Walkee
04-05-10, 09:11 PM
He's not leaving Duke. This is a guy who turned down the Lakers job a few years back. He has a perfect existence at Duke---he wins alot and he's a God down there. Would make no sense to give that up to coach the lowly Nets.
Of course he's not leaving Duke.
YanksFan1992
04-12-10, 04:24 PM
Uh oh.
A New Jersey congressman says he will demand a government inquiry into Mikhail Prokhorov, the Russian billionaire poised to buy the New Jersey Nets, for his extensive business dealings in Zimbabwe -- a bombshell that could blow up the $200 million team deal and threaten the future of Brooklyn's Atlantic Yards, The Post has learned.
Democratic Rep. Bill Pascrell Jr., a member of the powerful Ways and Means Committee, wants to know if companies controlled by Prokhorov in Zimbabwe violate federal rules that forbid American citizens and companies, and subsidiaries set up in the United States, from doing business with brutal strongman Robert Mugabe, his regime or associates.
"This is disgusting," Pascrell said. "Obviously, the Board of Governors of the NBA didn't do their job properly when they vetted this deal."
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/tycoon_tyrant_ties_threaten_nets_WI0wPn68s7VtpRtahUROnO
Joba-Walkee
04-12-10, 09:26 PM
It's a total non-issue, from everything I've read.
RYMASTER or Ryan_Yankees
04-12-10, 09:34 PM
When they move to Brooklyn, will they be the New York Nets (which is a name that has history to it) or the Brooklyn Nets (in order to seem more like they're filling a niche)?
Joba-Walkee
04-12-10, 11:50 PM
From everything I have heard, Brooklyn Nets.
Or they could go New York Nets of Brooklyn of the greater Metropolitan Area.
Joba-Walkee
04-14-10, 04:52 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oF3F2TU6CCk&feature=player_embedded
Glorious.
THEBOSS84
04-30-10, 10:53 AM
WPXI in Pittsburgh reports Santonio Holmes had to be escorted off a plane Thursday night at Pittsburgh International Airport.
Holmes was not arrested, but he had to be pulled off the plane for what investigators termed being a "disruptive passenger." NFL commissioner Roger Goodell isn't going to look kindly on the incident after the offseason that Holmes has had. We were skeptical that Holmes was going to keep his nose clean earlier this month when he issued an apology with a marijuana symbol still present on his official website
LOLOL
Joba-Walkee
04-30-10, 02:23 PM
I doubt Santonio Holmes has any basketball experience, but hell, he'd still probably be an upgrade on this team.
The Hawks are looking to sell their pick to make up capital to keep JJ in Atlanta. I would think the Nets would be right at the top of their list of potential suitors.
THEBOSS84
04-30-10, 02:25 PM
My bad, meant to laugh at him in the Jets thread. You are now permitted to laugh at me instead.
Joba-Walkee
05-03-10, 08:13 PM
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704342604575222532661577678.html
"Money is a tool to create thoughtful, professional staff," he says. "His style is to invite the best professionals from this or that field, and create a sophisticated, detailed system, use modern technologies and be sure to bring the project to a positive result."
Joba-Walkee
05-07-10, 11:40 PM
Prokhorov will be approved on Tuesday.
Joba-Walkee
05-18-10, 02:46 PM
Moment of truths for the Nets. Probably one of the biggest days in the history of the franchise.
Moment of truths for the Nets. Probably one of the biggest days in the history of the franchise.Meh. Sometimes "losing" the lottery isn't always the worst thing.
Joba-Walkee
05-18-10, 03:19 PM
Meh. Sometimes "losing" the lottery isn't always the worst thing.
Solely based on pick, you're right, but getting Wall would definitely help us recruit a coach & FAs.
RYMASTER or Ryan_Yankees
05-18-10, 03:25 PM
What's the lowest pick that the New Jersey Nets/Сети Нью-Джерси can get?
Solely based on pick, you're right, but getting Wall would definitely help us recruit a coach & FAs.
Getting the second pick and drafting Turner will not be bad. Wall is clearly the No.1 prospect in this year draft but he is still a bit raw, unlike his comp Rose.
Harris
Turner
Lopez
Terrence Williams
David Lee
With Courtney Lee, Chris Douglas-Roberts, Yi Jianlian on the bench, this can be a play-off team in the East and set them up perfectly for chasing Melo next year.
Philip Hughes Fan
05-18-10, 03:54 PM
Depending on who wins, the Nets could potentially trade up to the 1st pick even if they don't win tonight.
Joba-Walkee
05-18-10, 04:31 PM
What's the lowest pick that the New Jersey Nets/Сети Нью-Джерси can get?
4th/фоуртх
Getting the second pick and drafting Turner will not be bad. Wall is clearly the No.1 prospect in this year draft but he is still a bit raw, unlike his comp Rose.
Harris
Turner
Lopez
Terrence Williams
David Lee
With Courtney Lee, Chris Douglas-Roberts, Yi Jianlian on the bench, this can be a play-off team in the East and set them up perfectly for chasing Melo next year.
I think Wall is a lot less raw than Rose.
Turner is pretty much Terrence with better scoring ability. That team would be brutal shooting wise.
I think Harris should be dealt whatever happens.
Turner is pretty much Terrence with better scoring ability. That team would be brutal shooting wise.
That's a big difference.
I think Harris should be dealt whatever happens.
Depends on the draft result. If they get Wall, I would trade him this year. If they get Turner, I would trade him next year.
Joba-Walkee
05-18-10, 05:16 PM
That's a big difference.
Depends on the draft result. If they get Wall, I would trade him this year. If they get Turner, I would trade him next year.
Sure it is. Their roles still overlap a lot though.
Joba-Walkee
05-18-10, 07:23 PM
Gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah. Way too excited.
Joba-Walkee
05-18-10, 07:31 PM
Well that sucked.
stazsanity
05-19-10, 07:44 AM
I can't remember a more dehibilitating night.
No Wall. No Turner. Harris probably remains a Net. Sixers somehow end up with a better pick. Yankees blow a five run lead.
I can't remember a more dehibilitating night.
No Wall. No Turner. Harris probably remains a Net. Sixers somehow end up with a better pick. Yankees blow a five run lead.
It's not a sure thing that the Sixers will pick Turner.
stazsanity
05-19-10, 01:30 PM
It's not a sure thing that the Sixers will pick Turner.
I've heard/read that today as well...if so, you have think Iguodala would have to be gone... my hope remains that somehow, Turner remains at three or the Nets flip flop with them "just to be sure."
Personally, I don't think Wall is as much of a slamdunk as others...to me, a huge portion of his appeal is getting rid of Harris. Harris is not the type of point guard that you win an NBA title with.
I've heard/read that today as well...if so, you have think Iguodala would have to be gone... my hope remains that somehow, Turner remains at three or the Nets flip flop with them "just to be sure."
I think adding Favors/Monroe/Cousins is not a bad option either. Lopez can finally get some help.
stazsanity
05-19-10, 01:49 PM
I think adding Favors/Monroe/Cousins is not a bad option either. Lopez can finally get some help.
I'm pretty down on Favors...to me, he's Coleman all over again... I'm not a psychologist, but I've read (already) entirely too much about his mental makeup, questionable work ethic, etc. Having said that, he was da*n fun to watch this year @ Kentucky. Favors is far from polished but I think he'll be the best pro in the long run....a true 20/10-15 guy that'll take pressure off of Lopez in the low post.
Still, for me, best case scenario is if somehow Evan Turner slips and the Nets find a way to rid themselves of D.Harris (aka anti-JKIDD)
Joba-Walkee
05-19-10, 02:04 PM
I'm pretty down on Favors...to me, he's Coleman all over again... I'm not a psychologist, but I've read (already) entirely too much about his mental makeup, questionable work ethic, etc. Having said that, he was da*n fun to watch this year @ Kentucky. Favors is far from polished but I think he'll be the best pro in the long run....a true 20/10-15 guy that'll take pressure off of Lopez in the low post.
Still, for me, best case scenario is if somehow Evan Turner slips and the Nets find a way to rid themselves of D.Harris (aka anti-JKIDD)
You meant Cousins in the first instance of Favors right?
I want Favors, and I kind of want him more than Turner. Favors-Lopez sounds like a great duo inside.
Hellsing
05-19-10, 02:59 PM
Lol. Sorry Nets fans....but...damn.
You got touched by the unlucky stick. Hard.
New Nets owner Mikhail Prokhorov can add a GM search to his to-do list.
He says Kiki Vandeweghe is all but finished with the team, telling reporters "His contract is up and I wish him luck" at a brunch Wednesday morning, according to a report in The Star-Ledger.
Prokhorov, who was on hand at the NBA Draft Lottery Tuesday night, also says the team isn't holding out hope of landing Duke's Mike Krzyzewski as its next coach, saying "The new coach must have NBA experience. Coach K does not have NBA experience."
The new owner did give team president Rod Thorn a vote of confidence, saying a contract extension with Thorn is in the works.
http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/gm-kiki-vandeweghe-will-be-let-go-by-nets-051910
Joba-Walkee
05-20-10, 06:14 PM
Lol. Sorry Nets fans....but...damn.
You got touched by the unlucky stick. Hard.
Meh, not really. The pick they were most likely to get was 4th. It happens, and we can't really do anything about it now.
Thank god, Kiki was awful. While he was okay at blowing up the team, he's got no vision on team building, and was scummy.
I think the Nets would gain a huge tactical advantage if the Wolves skip over Turner for Cousins. I'd love to see a Nets-Wolves deal, centered around Harris+Turner for Rubio+Love/4th pick.
Snatch Catch
05-20-10, 10:56 PM
The only advantage I see too Mikey, besides the lulz, is scouting connections on international guys.
I think the Nets are more likely than most teams to find eurogems now, and that's a good thing for them.
stazsanity
05-21-10, 07:49 AM
You meant Cousins in the first instance of Favors right?
I want Favors, and I kind of want him more than Turner. Favors-Lopez sounds like a great duo inside.
Cousins to me looks like Derick Coleman Part II. He takes nights off and his work ethic has been challenged through high school into college. He's a physically gifted athlete and probably more polished at this point than Favors, but I think Favors is a safer bet. For whatever reason, I get a real Sean Williams vibe from Cousins (obviously more of a skill set, just that sorta stoner mentality).
Joba-Walkee
05-21-10, 03:57 PM
The only advantage I see too Mikey, besides the lulz, is scouting connections on international guys.
I think the Nets are more likely than most teams to find eurogems now, and that's a good thing for them.
Advantage compared to what?
Money plays a huge role in the NBA. This guy appears to be willing to pay whatever it takes. The Lakers were able to build a great team through smart management, but they're going to be able to retain their pieces because of money.
I like Prokhorov's management style a lot, and I think it's a huge upgrade over Ratner, who essentially knew nothing about basketball, let alone the NBA.
I also think his life style will attract some players, but I think that is overblown.
stazsanity
05-24-10, 12:06 PM
Very interesting perspective on Prokhorov done by espn.com's Bill Simmons (The Sports Guy): http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/100521&sportCat=nba
He breaks down the media blitz from this past week, compiling facts from a bunch of different interviews and adds some insight to the direction the franchise may or may not go in...I enjoyed it
stazsanity
05-25-10, 01:15 PM
Nets beginning their play at Phil Jackson. Nice.
RhodyYanksFan
05-25-10, 01:49 PM
Listening to his appearance on Francessa last week. He seems pretty cool. Even made a joke about Mad Dog that got under Mike's skin.
stazsanity
05-26-10, 09:07 AM
Listening to his appearance on Francessa last week. He seems pretty cool. Even made a joke about Mad Dog that got under Mike's skin.
I'm all for anyone that gets under Francessa's skin.
mentalgidget
05-26-10, 09:29 AM
I'm all for anyone that gets under Francessa's skin.
It's mostly pizza and diet coke under there
Joba-Walkee
05-26-10, 09:06 PM
It's mostly pizza and diet coke under there
and neon-orange glow sticks.
Joba-Walkee
06-09-10, 02:52 PM
Nets chose Avery Johnson to be HC. No surprise.
Nets chose Avery Johnson to be HC. No surprise.
A very good choice IMO. He is a "defense mind" coach. That's what the Nets need.
Joba-Walkee
06-11-10, 07:24 PM
A very good choice IMO. He is a "defense mind" coach. That's what the Nets need.
The Nets need a whole bunch of everything.
I feel like this is a downgrade from Frank, but I think that was inevitable when Frank was fired.
Joba-Walkee
06-21-10, 08:19 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-paulhornets062110
Bunch of talks about Paul to the Nets. I'd be all over the deal if it was something like, #3, Harris (possibly in a three way. Get them #10 and Troy Murphy or sometihng), one of the late picks (depending on which the Hornets want) and Yi or Humphries if they want, for Mo Pete or Posey and Paul. I don't think Paul's BYC comes into account because the Nets are so far under the cap.
They'd still have enough room for LeBron, and supposedly Wes has been telling teams that trading for Paul would increase their chances. I would put him at PF in that scenario. Saves him years on his career, increases his scoring, saves him energy for the playoffs.
Imagine something like:
Paul
Lee
Williams
LeBron
Lopez
Joba-Walkee
06-22-10, 09:47 PM
CDR's been dealt to the Bucks for a 2nd. Thank god.
Snatch Catch
06-23-10, 08:44 AM
Nets get a 2012 2nd rounder for CDR.
jobasfistpump62
06-23-10, 09:23 AM
The Nets need a whole bunch of everything.
I feel like this is a downgrade from Frank, but I think that was inevitable when Frank was fired.
Frank was awful.
Joba-Walkee
06-23-10, 09:25 AM
Nets get a 2012 2nd rounder for CDR.
On one hand I'm angry that it's a future pick, but the sadistic side of me is pleased to see that CDR's giant ego has to deal with being traded for essentially nothing.
Frank was awful.
Awfully great?
jobasfistpump62
06-23-10, 05:39 PM
On one hand I'm angry that it's a future pick, but the sadistic side of me is pleased to see that CDR's giant ego has to deal with being traded for essentially nothing.
Awfully great?
How? His teams were underachievers.
Joba-Walkee
06-23-10, 07:36 PM
How? His teams were underachievers.
If you think those poorly put together, miss-match teams underachieved, you need to reevaluate the talent on those teams.
Look at this team:
http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/NJN/2006.html
How did that crap win 49 games?
jobasfistpump62
06-24-10, 12:32 AM
If you think those poorly put together, miss-match teams underachieved, you need to reevaluate the talent on those teams.
Look at this team:
http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/NJN/2006.html
How did that crap win 49 games?
Kidd, Carter, Jefferson, and an emerging Krstic is garbage? Nice try.
Joba-Walkee
06-24-10, 01:17 AM
Kidd, Carter, Jefferson, and an emerging Krstic is garbage? Nice try.
You mean an old, broken down, 32 year old Kidd who couldn't defend any more, yet still played 37 minutes a game because Thorn could never find a competent back up? You mean a Carter who had to do everything on offense cause everyone else was scrub-tastic? You mean a Jefferson that stopped running the break and stopped defending, while looking more and more for his own? You mean a Nenad Krstic that averaged 13.5/6.5?
I forgot, they had the ineffable Jason Collins, who was playing with shredded knee caps. That's a season saver.
At least they had that amazing bench!
That team was god awful. The idea that players like Carter and Krstic, two strictly half court players, could coexist with Jefferson and Kidd was ridiculous from the get-go. Frank made it work.
jobasfistpump62
06-24-10, 04:33 AM
You mean an old, broken down, 32 year old Kidd who couldn't defend any more, yet still played 37 minutes a game because Thorn could never find a competent back up? You mean a Carter who had to do everything on offense cause everyone else was scrub-tastic? You mean a Jefferson that stopped running the break and stopped defending, while looking more and more for his own? You mean a Nenad Krstic that averaged 13.5/6.5?
I forgot, they had the ineffable Jason Collins, who was playing with shredded knee caps. That's a season saver.
At least they had that amazing bench!
That team was god awful. The idea that players like Carter and Krstic, two strictly half court players, could coexist with Jefferson and Kidd was ridiculous from the get-go. Frank made it work.
Kidd averaged 13.3, 7.3, and 8.4 during the regular season. That was a great year from Kidd.
Jefferson shot 49.3% that year and averaged 19.5 ppg. I hardly call that "scrub-tastic."
Krstic shot 51% that year. Is that a scrub-tastic number? I don't think so.
Carter averaged 24.2 ppg.
That team was definitely God awful. Give me a break.
EDIT: I just did some digging to find out what the Nets were projected to do before the season. Chad Ford had them 4th OVERALL on his power rankings. SI had them third. TSN had them 6th. Many other outlets projected them to win the Atlantic or challenge for the Eastern Conference Title.
Joba-Walkee
06-24-10, 05:44 AM
Yay cherry picking.
Kidd had a good year because he's Jason freaking Kidd. But it was clear throughout the season that he wasn't the same Kidd who got the Nets to the finals three years ago. Worse, he was playing all of those minutes.
Jefferson also stopped playing hard defense that year, and hardly created for others on the offensive end. He basically lived off of Carter and Kidd's play making in the half court.
Okay, right here you just took the prettiest number you could find and rounded it up. If the nicest thing you can say about your low volume C with weak defense and rebounding is that he shot 50.7% on 11 shots, you wouldn't think much of him.
Carter was who he always was that season. A half court, inefficient scorer, who could create for himself and others.
Of course they were projected to win the Atlantic. The whole division was crap.
jobasfistpump62
06-24-10, 01:36 PM
Yay cherry picking.
Kidd had a good year because he's Jason freaking Kidd. But it was clear throughout the season that he wasn't the same Kidd who got the Nets to the finals three years ago. Worse, he was playing all of those minutes.
Jefferson also stopped playing hard defense that year, and hardly created for others on the offensive end. He basically lived off of Carter and Kidd's play making in the half court.
Okay, right here you just took the prettiest number you could find and rounded it up. If the nicest thing you can say about your low volume C with weak defense and rebounding is that he shot 50.7% on 11 shots, you wouldn't think much of him.
Carter was who he always was that season. A half court, inefficient scorer, who could create for himself and others.
Of course they were projected to win the Atlantic. The whole division was crap.
Lol talk about cherry picking.
Your comment was obviously blatantly wrong about scrub-tastic offense.
Krstic averaged 15 ppg and 8 rpg over the last 2 months of the season.
You talk about them projected to win the Atlantic, but you don't bring up what I said about Chad Ford, SI, or TSN? Why not? Because it might be bad for your argument? There were also numerous other places that had the Nets highly ranked.
Anyway, I'm done with this argument because it's clear that you show no signs of rational thinking.
Joba-Walkee
06-24-10, 07:57 PM
Very pleased with Favors. I'd like to trade up and nab Babbit.
jobasfistpump62
06-25-10, 12:59 AM
Very pleased with Favors. I'd like to trade up and nab Babbit.
I'm happy with Favors too. We agree on something!
Joba-Walkee
06-25-10, 07:20 PM
I'm happy with Favors too. We agree on something!
I could see Favors + Lopez having a Pau and Bynum sort of effect. They could be very, very good.
http://www.netsdaily.com/2010/6/25/1537572/espn-rod-thorn-retiring-july-15
Rod Thorn is out. Pritchard please.
Joba-Walkee
06-25-10, 11:38 PM
http://blogs.northjersey.com/blogs/inthezzone/comments/colangelo_leading_candidate_for_thorns_job/
That would be huge.
Avery, Jay-Z, Prokhorov, Thorn, Colangelo. Wow, that's a lot to say no to.
Snatch Catch
06-29-10, 12:26 PM
Nets trade Yi for Quinton Ross and save $3 million.
jobasfistpump62
06-29-10, 01:07 PM
Thank God Yi is gone.
Joba-Walkee
07-01-10, 11:05 PM
Thank God Yi is gone.
We agree on two things!
Thorn is supposedly retiring, and Jerry freaking Colangelo is our #1 target. What an upgrade.
The sign across from MSG is hilarious. It's all over the nypost website too.
jobasfistpump62
07-02-10, 12:59 AM
We agree on two things!
Thorn is supposedly retiring, and Jerry freaking Colangelo is our #1 target. What an upgrade.
The sign across from MSG is hilarious. It's all over the nypost website too.
Ok, apparently we agree on everything other than Lawrence Frank. Haha.
Snatch Catch
07-02-10, 05:29 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-wadelebronbulls072010
Sources say one team that all but eliminated itself with James in the presentation process was the New York Knicks. James met with the organization on Friday and his inner-circle has described New York’s presentation as lacking preparedness and organization. James’ camp also found it to be redundant to much of the New Jersey Nets’ far sharper, edgier presentation on James’ earning power.
James hasn’t been convinced that he can overcome the $30 million difference between possible Cleveland and New York offers through endorsements and other streams of revenue. However, Russian billionaire Mikhail Prokhorov’s vision of bulking up James’ international portfolio did resonate with him, and the Nets vision of using Brooklyn and the owner’s international muscle does appeal to him.
Joba-Walkee
07-03-10, 10:11 AM
The Nets put together a really good pitch team, and have the best talent to put around two FA.
I'm still not a fan of the "Sell everything for two max FA" idea but the Nets have done it in a smart way. They've scrapped crappy players (Yi, CDR), while only giving up one valuable, but in our case pretty much infinite, resource: money.
Lopez and Harris pretty much cancel out Rose and Noah, with Lopez being superior to Noah, and Rose to Harris.
The Bulls are left with Deng, Gibson, and James Johnson. Terrence Williams, Courtney Lee, Damian James, and Derrick Favors, and Kris Humphries is superior to that, imo. Keep in mind that the Bulls will either have to dump Deng or both Gibson and Johnson, while the Nets just have to dump Humphries. The Bulls would have to fit a lot of roster spots.
I'm not a Nets fan but I like this team becasue of Lopez. If they can get LBJ, all I can say is "WOW". I really don't expect that.
Snatch Catch
07-05-10, 08:00 PM
We agree on two things!
Thorn is supposedly retiring, and Jerry freaking Colangelo is our #1 target. What an upgrade.
The sign across from MSG is hilarious. It's all over the nypost website too.
What happened to Colangelo? Is Thorn to Marks an upgrade?
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Detroit Pistons GM Joe Dumars has issued a statement saying that he has no interest in the New Jersey Nets GM job
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(http://forums.nyyfans.com/) Despite Avery Johnson's tantrums, Hornets Jeff Bower remains strong candidate for Nets. Assistant GM Bobby Marks also getting strong look.
Joba-Walkee
07-05-10, 10:17 PM
Ugh. Prtichard is on the market, and Colangelo is interested, and we're going after Jeff Bower?
However, according to Kerber, Presti is leading the field, which would be a Colangelo-level get.
Joba-Walkee
07-06-10, 10:45 AM
Bosh, Lopez, Favors is the closest thing LeBron can get to Odom, Bynum, Gasol or Perkins, Garnett, Rasheed, and Baby.
I hope he recognizes that.
RYMASTER or Ryan_Yankees
07-06-10, 12:25 PM
Lots of "expert" opinions have David Lee going to the Nets. Thoughts?
Lots of "expert" opinions have David Lee going to the Nets. Thoughts?
If the Nets got Turner in the draft, I think this move makes 100% sense. Not so much when the Nets drafted Favors.
Bosh, Lopez, Favors is the closest thing LeBron can get to Odom, Bynum, Gasol or Perkins, Garnett, Rasheed, and Baby.
I hope he recognizes that.
I stick to my prediction. The Nets' real chance will be Melo and LBJ will go to the Knicks.
Joba-Walkee
07-06-10, 01:01 PM
Lots of "expert" opinions have David Lee going to the Nets. Thoughts?
Bleh. I'll be pissed if we sucked for three years just to get David Lee, who I'm not a big fan of.
Snatch Catch
07-06-10, 01:59 PM
@WojYahooNBA New Orleans GM Jeff Bower has withdrawn from consideration for the Nets GM vacancy, he says. He met with Nets officials in New York on Sat.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ys-bowernets070610
New Orleans Hornets GM Jeff Bower has withdrawn from consideration for the New Jersey Nets general manager’s job, the Hornets announced in a statement.
Bower interviewed for the Nets job on Saturday in New York with owner Mikhail Prokhorov and outgoing GM Rod Thorn.
The Nets could open the search to more outside candidates or turn to an internal candidate with strong support from Thorn, assistant GM Bobby Marks.
Sources believe Bower shares the sentiments of several other prospective candidates who have backed away from interest in the job: They’re uneasy working with new Nets coach Avery Johnson, whom sources say is trying to gather front-office power for himself.
Sources say Johnson was vehemently against the hiring of Bower, who didn’t hire him to be the Hornets coach.
“It is not the right fit for the Nets, or myself,” Bower said in the statement.
Joba-Walkee
07-06-10, 02:01 PM
Avery is power-tripping already? Who does he think he is, Kiki?
Joba-Walkee
07-06-10, 04:24 PM
It's pretty well known that an NBA team needs a solid 8 man rotation to be a real contender. Assuming the Nets get LeBron and Bosh and ship out Humphries, they are trotting out, from best to worst:
L. James
Bosh
Lopez
Harris
Favors
Williams
Lee
D. James
Personally, I'd put Harris on the bench to start off games, but still get him 30 minutes a night.
Williams (but defending SG)
Lee (but defending PG)
L. James
Bosh
Lopez
Harris, D. James, Favors off the bench.
Compare that to the Lakers from last season:
Top 8 by minutes played:
Bryant
Gasol
Artest
Odom
Bynum
Fisher
Brown
Farmar
From a purely 1 on 1 stand point (which is lame, I know) I like LeBron more than Kobe, but Pau is better than Bosh imo. They cancel out in my mind. Lopez is far, far better than Artest. Harris has a small advantage over Odom. Bynum, at this point, clearly has an advantage over Favors at this point, though health may take Bynum out of the picture. If Williams is as good as he was in the last two months (and as awesome as he looked yesterday), he is better than Fisher. Lee is better than Brown, but they're hard to compare. I'd listen to an argument saying that they're dead even. I've never watched James, so I have no idea if he's better than Farmar.
Would any top 8 rotation type FA be willing to accept the minimum? Would Hayes and Dooling be willing to re-sign for the minimum?
Either way, no other team can ensure a top 8 like that, since most only have 4 players or less.
TL;DR, the Nets would have a pretty badass rotation of 8 if Bosh and LeBron came on board.
chanman7483
07-09-10, 03:41 AM
How come no one posted the huge news about Travis Outlaw signing a 35 mil dollar deal with Korver and Ty Thomas following close behind? This is huge for you Joba and you missed the scoop.
How come no one posted the huge news about Travis Outlaw signing a 35 mil dollar deal with Korver and Ty Thomas following close behind? This is huge for you Joba and you missed the scoop.
Huge and great news for the Nets fans. So far I think the Nets fans are hard to complain about the new owner and FO.
Joba-Walkee
07-09-10, 05:22 AM
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not. I don't hate the move.
Also lost in LeBron mania is whatever came out of the Pritchard interview.
Fabien Brandy
07-10-10, 08:04 AM
Harris
Morrow
Outlaw
Hasleem?
Lopez
Favors Lee
b_joseph
07-12-10, 06:08 AM
Jordan Farmar will have you guys tearing out your hair within the first month...I wish you all the best though.
Joba-Walkee
07-13-10, 09:25 AM
Really pleased with all the moves the Nets have made. Very well balanced, deep roster.
Joba-Walkee
07-13-10, 09:26 AM
Harris
Morrow
Outlaw
Hasleem?
Lopez
Favors Lee
Harris / Farmar/ Williams
Lee / Morrow
Outlaw /Williams / James
Scola or AK47 or Bass (all would be awesome) / Favors / James
Lopez/ Petro/ Favors
Really pleased with all the moves the Nets have made. Very well balanced, deep roster.
Good for the Nets fan. This team is still not a playoff team IMO, but their goal in next year should be winning 30-40 games and keeping payroll flexible enoguh for one or two big trades. So far the front office is attaining the goal successfully.
Snatch Catch
07-13-10, 09:41 AM
I thought they were the frontrunners for Lebron and would land two big free agents?
Joba-Walkee
07-13-10, 09:57 AM
I thought they were the frontrunners for Lebron and would land two big free agents?
You know that I never thought that.
Good for the Nets fan. This team is still not a playoff team IMO, but their goal in next year should be winning 30-40 games and keeping payroll flexible enoguh for one or two big trades. So far the front office is attaining the goal successfully.
Yep, exactly. Young talent, lots of future picks, lots of money, and a potential franchise cornerstone (2nd best player on a championship level team) in Lopez.
I think they could sneak in if there defense is as good as it can be. Not holding my breath though.
Snatch Catch
07-13-10, 11:16 PM
You know that I never thought that.
Maybe not, but there's no way you thought they would get shut out.
In the meanwhile, I just said a prayer before I put my head to pillow that this would actually come true.
Billy King has emerged as the frontrunner to become the next president of the New Jersey Nets (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/njn/;_ylt=Ar9gfu_R5I305x2eAZ3uF04QmNIF), league sources told Yahoo! Sports.
King met with ownership on Tuesday in New York and has the strong endorsement of outgoing president and general manager Rod Thorn and coach Avery Johnson. If the Nets hire King as president, sources said the team will likely promote vice president of basketball operations Bobby Marks to handle day-to-day GM duties.
Joba-Walkee
07-14-10, 07:42 AM
I thought they'd miss out on LeBron, Wade, Bosh, had a decent shot at Amare, and prayed they wouldn't get and overpay Lee or Gay.
Still think they have a shot at Scola. I'd love to see a front loaded 3/36 million deal offered.
What the ................ is up with this? King and Ferry are two of the guys around the league I'd consider downgrades from Thorn. Marks is doing a nice job though.
Still think they have a shot at Scola. I'd love to see a front loaded 3/36 million deal offered.
I would be very surprise if the Rockets don't match the Nets' offer. If the Nets find a way to steal Scola away from the Rockets............ I still can't imagine that. Too good to be true.
Snatch Catch
07-14-10, 12:28 PM
Billy King has been HIRED...
...AS GENERAL MANAGER!
:cheer: :clapping: :cheer: :clapping: :cheer: :clapping: :cheer:
dabomb2045
07-14-10, 03:01 PM
Have fun with Billy King!
Snatch Catch
07-15-10, 09:15 AM
From AI:
Nets' fans, Billy King is the GM. That's it. One title. He's the guy. He, Avery and Bobby Marks run the B-Ball Dept.....Mostly Avery.
Yankee Fan in Boston
07-15-10, 09:34 AM
From AI:
Oh, good, a triumvirate. That's going to go well.
Joba-Walkee
07-16-10, 08:12 AM
I trust Marks (if he was behind the recent signings), but have little faith in Avery and 0 in King.
Joba-Walkee
08-11-10, 12:27 PM
http://twitter.com/chadfordinsider/status/20901006642
Puts us right at the cusp of the playoffs, with tons of money for next season.
Snatch Catch
08-11-10, 01:35 PM
What the HELL is New Orleans thinking?
Joba-Walkee
08-11-10, 01:43 PM
What the HELL is New Orleans thinking?
Seriously, awful move for them. Got to be for CP3 appeasement.
Seriously, awful move for them. Got to be for CP3 appeasement.
Its even a pretty terrible job of appeasement, woo Trevor Ariza. Its more like they are just making themselves into even more of a victim by giving up Collison so that when Paul wants to leave, they can guilt trip him LeBron style and then act so defenseless and horrified when he exercises his right to work where he wants
chanman7483
08-11-10, 08:54 PM
It's official... still waitin for the dust to clear. If anything, this is going to accelerate CP3's departure and frustration because Ariza is.. horrible. If he's taking 6 shots a game around the basket and finishing on the break, playing D... great. But he's not even a number 3 guy. And he's supposed to be a number 2 guy. This has disaster written all over it and was made in desperation. Houston really did well by getting out from that contract.
Nets are looking in much better shape... front line is set, backcourt should be fine. Should be at the least a 35-40 win team.
I'll def. be picking up Collison in my fantasy leagues...
Joba-Walkee
08-11-10, 11:48 PM
Honestly he's probably the 4th best offensive player on the starting line up, maybe 5th behind Emeka. Paul, Thornton, and West are all far better.
I wonder who'll win out for the battle at SG, Morrow or Williams.
Joba-Walkee
08-18-10, 02:08 PM
Should the Denver Nuggets elect to trade Carmelo Anthony, the New York Knicks are believed to be the All-Star forward's first choice for a new home. But they are not his only option.
Multiple league sources familiar with his situation told SI.com that Anthony would also be open to signing a long-term deal with Houston or New Jersey should either of those teams offer the Nuggets an acceptable trade package.
Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/basketball/nba/08/18/carmelo.trade.interest/#ixzz0wzCSfAod
Terrence, two picks (we have 4 tradeable 1st rounders over the next 3 years, and 6 2nds), and Murphy. Do it Thorn.
Thorn doesn't run the Nets anymore.
Joba-Walkee
08-18-10, 02:31 PM
Thorn doesn't run the Nets anymore.
And each day, I am thankful for that.
"Do it Thorn" is a long running Nets joke. It transcends Rod.
Melo just makes too much sense for the Nets. If he is willing to sign an extension, I predict that the Nets will offer Favors plus 1st round picks, which should be a very competitive offer.
Joba-Walkee
08-18-10, 06:38 PM
Melo just makes too much sense for the Nets. If he is willing to sign an extension, I predict that the Nets will offer Favors plus 1st round picks, which should be a very competitive offer.
I wouldn't want to give an absolute top prospect like Favors AND have to extend Melo for the max (I think he's the level below max, but I'd be willing to overpay).
I wouldn't want to give an absolute top prospect like Favors AND have to extend Melo for the max (I think he's the level below max, but I'd be willing to overpay).
Not that I want to give up Favor. But I think the Nets will. Favors can very well be the deciding factor in Melo trade. Like I said before, Melo just makes too much sense for the Nets, in many ways.
Joba-Walkee
08-18-10, 07:47 PM
Not that I want to give up Favor. But I think the Nets will. Favors can very well be the deciding factor in Melo trade. Like I said before, Melo just makes too much sense for the Nets, in many ways.
He is way too much to give up for a guy who can leave at the end of the year. Denver's leverage isn't great in this.
He is way too much to give up for a guy who can leave at the end of the year. Denver's leverage isn't great in this.
I have said "If he is willing to sign an extension".
Joba-Walkee
08-19-10, 12:27 AM
I have said "If he is willing to sign an extension".
I meant from Denver's view point.
I meant from Denver's view point.
It depends on how many teams Melo is willing to sign an extension with. And I think the Nets will overpay.
Joba-Walkee
08-19-10, 01:08 AM
It depends on how many teams Melo is willing to sign an extension with. And I think the Nets will overpay.
Only teams I have heard are the Knicks, Nets, Rockets, and Magic(s).
Knicks would have a hard time beating Williams + 2 or 3 picks. Magic flat out can't. Rockets would be a lot more interesting because of the Knicks trade.
Only teams I have heard are the Knicks, Nets, Rockets, and Magic(s).
Knicks would have a hard time beating Williams + 2 or 3 picks. Magic flat out can't. Rockets would be a lot more interesting because of the Knicks trade.
Hard to disagree if the 2 or 3 picks mean 2011-2013 first round picks.
Joba-Walkee
08-28-10, 11:07 AM
There are rumors the Nets would have to give up Lopez for Anthony. That's just laughable. Given contract and age, that's a dollar for dollar trade, and that NEVER happens in NBA blockbusters, especially when the guy wants out.
You don't get better by making fair value trades.
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