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NY_GOLDENARMS
07-31-09, 11:52 PM
Hitter of the Month:
Corban Joseph (http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?pos=3B&sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=543377) :eek:
Pitcher of the Month:
David Phelps (http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?pos=P&sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=475479)
I demand a recount. No Montero!
NY_GOLDENARMS
08-01-09, 11:25 AM
LOL, amazing to me too but the guy hit .410 with a higher OPS for the month of July.
kongull
08-01-09, 12:37 PM
Montero isn't going to win hitter of the month every month, nor should he have to. Players get hot and Joseph deserved this one.
I was kidding. I know Joseph deserved it. lol
TheHugeUnit2
08-01-09, 04:29 PM
Nice to see two guys from the 2008 draft class.
NY_GOLDENARMS
08-04-09, 08:55 AM
bump..
Gator's Shadow
08-04-09, 12:26 PM
What can people tell me about Hector Noesi and DJ Mitchell (beyond the easily available stats). Is the organization high on either one? Pitches? Projections?
BomberBrian
08-04-09, 02:45 PM
rumblings of TJS for Betances on Will Carroll's twitter.
JavyVazquezIsSick
08-04-09, 02:49 PM
About time....
Philip Hughes Fan
08-04-09, 02:59 PM
It's seemed like a foregone conclusion for a while now.
IrishYankee
08-04-09, 03:30 PM
Just a quick recap of what I saw today in Pawtucket.
Ivan Nova looks great throwing, nice easy motion, ball explodes out of his hand. The only really hard hit he gave up was the 2-run jack to Chris Carter in the first which came on a 3-2 pitch after the ump squeezed him on the 1-2 pitch.
Most of his balls were high in the zone, which to me means a release point issue. The ump squeezed everyone on inside pitches today, a lot of staring from pitchers.
Austin Jackson was 1-3 by my count. He should have walked on a 3-1 pitch in the first, was later called out looking (knuckler Zink pitching, so hard to judge). Singled solidly to right center in his second ab. Good, quick power transfer through the zone and his swing looked far more compact than I'd seen in the past. Flied out in his third ab.
Shelly BB'd twice, and the 1b ump made a howler on a ground ball to deep short that he beat out.
Chris Stewart can't hit a lick, but his arm looked great, 1 of 2 on throw out attempts.
Juan Miranda just looked lazy. He slid on a double play ball when he reached half way to second. He looks lazy fielding, running, and he has an ugly catching motion at first. Wouldn't want him anywhere near a team I was coaching or playing on.
DeCaster looked pretty good at the plate but fairly stone handed in the field. Everything looked like work and was far from clean.
Couldn't hear who the Yankee relievers were, but they were underwhelming, all having issues throwing strikes.
Donnybaseball72
08-04-09, 04:55 PM
Just a quick recap of what I saw today in Pawtucket.
Couldn't hear who the Yankee relievers were, but they were underwhelming, all having issues throwing strikes.
The first reliever was Marte how had 1 walks and a hit but 2 k's in 2/3 of an inning. Whelan and Sanit finished it out.
A note about a draftee that I broke the news of his signing earlier in the period: Adam Warren has just passed the 30 day mark since signing, and I asked him if the organization is making any changes with him. He told me that the adjustments were working on his curveball and “very minor mechanical tweaks. The righty from UNC has been destroying the NYPL, coming up just short in IP to qualify for the league lead in ERA (0.82), and posting a K:BB ratio of 24:3. In his last start Adam told me that they had him sitting at 92 MPH, and that he touched 96 MPH.
Finally, the Draft Spot’s favorite son, 2008 draftee Brett Marshall, underwent Tommy John Surgery perfomred by Dr. James Andrews last Friday morning. I spoke to Brett the night before the procedure, and he was very upbeat telling me that he wasn’t worried at all, and that he’s just going to come back stronger. From speaking with Brett on several occasions, including in person, I can tell anyone out there that if I was forced to select a Yankee prospect that I put my complete faith in being able to follow the rigorous rehab program following TJS, it would unquestionably be Brett Marshall. The kid is all about working hard and getting the most he can out of his ability. He’s going to be just fine in the end, I think.
http://www.nomaas.org/draft/?p=258
Pokerface
08-05-09, 05:46 AM
Contrary to rumors, D. Betances is not having TJ surgery, His agent said he has been out with soreness and will start throwing next week
Pete Abraham
I was about to announce the same thing.
JavyVazquezIsSick
08-05-09, 07:26 PM
He'll recover, start throwing some more, get sore again, then have the TJ instead.
primetime714
08-05-09, 09:20 PM
He'll recover, start throwing some more, get sore again, then have the TJ instead.
Yea it seems like there is always speculation about him having the surgery which makes me believe it could be inevitable.
NY_GOLDENARMS
08-08-09, 11:30 AM
Mike Ashmore reports that Zach McAllister is about to come off the disabled list, Jorge Vazquez is out for the year and Humberto Sanchez is temporarily inactive because his wife is having a baby.
indianyanksfan
08-09-09, 01:40 PM
what happened to vazquez? geez the injuries are ridiculous
Hirsh is intriguing. That Cashman, doing his dustbin picking. Hirsh, Ortiz, Mitre, Gaudin. The man is a master at the small stuff. The devil is in the details.
cuse621
08-11-09, 11:55 AM
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4391556
Lets hope that this leads to a great success story. As we have seen you can never have enough starting pitching.
b_joseph
08-11-09, 01:15 PM
Eddie Sosa has been my most disappointing player in the minors this year. I really didnt think he would struggle like this....Hopefully he bounces back in 2010 when he repeats.
bmxstreetrider86
08-11-09, 05:19 PM
nice read on behind the scenes balloting for IL best tools featuring AJAX
http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/prospects/?p=6005
he is also the lead story there as well
bmxstreetrider86
08-11-09, 05:23 PM
it also just occured to me that the yankees will likely place at least 1 prospect in each of the league top 20's top 5 except the SAL, depending on whether or not montero qualifies for either league
GCL: DeLeon
SI- Vizcaino
SAL- none
FSL- Montero and possibly Romine depending on graduations, only ones i can see above Romine are Stanton, Brown, and Montero
EL-Montero
IL-Jackson
yankstaketitle
08-11-09, 05:37 PM
it also just occured to me that the yankees will likely place at least 1 prospect in each of the league top 20's top 5 except the SAL, depending on whether or not montero qualifies for either league
GCL: DeLeon
SI- Vizcaino
SAL- none
FSL- Montero and possibly Romine depending on graduations, only ones i can see above Romine are Stanton, Brown, and Montero
EL-Montero
IL-Jackson
and all but one are hitters :D:eek:
TheHugeUnit2
08-11-09, 05:51 PM
GCL: DeLeon
SI- Vizcaino
SAL- none
FSL- Montero and possibly Romine depending on graduations, only ones i can see above Romine are Stanton, Brown, and Montero
EL-Montero
IL-JacksonBanuelos doesn't get a nod? I thought he had a good year and he seems like the one prospect they are high on we have.
bmxstreetrider86
08-11-09, 05:51 PM
i think you mean hitters
bmxstreetrider86
08-11-09, 05:52 PM
Banuelos doesn't get a nod? I thought he had a good year and he seems like the one prospect they are high on we have.
i find it unlikely he finds his way into the top 5 of the SAL, which is always loaded. just looking quickly right now theres at least 4 pitchers in the league who will likely be ranked over him in Martin Perez, Ross Seaton, Jordan Lyles, and Jason Knapp, as well as Tim Beckham, Wilmer Flores and Derrick Norris on the hitters side
yankstaketitle
08-11-09, 05:58 PM
i think you mean hitters
yeah sorry long day
TheHugeUnit2
08-11-09, 06:16 PM
i find it unlikely he finds his way into the top 5 of the SAL, which is always loaded. just looking quickly right now theres at least 4 pitchers in the league who will likely be ranked over him in Martin Perez, Ross Seaton, Jordan Lyles, and Jason Knapp, as well as Tim Beckham, Wilmer Flores and Derrick Norris on the hitters sideIsn't Perez in double-A now?
bmxstreetrider86
08-11-09, 06:21 PM
Isn't Perez in double-A now?
sure, but for all intensive purposes he is a SAL prospect, he pitched 95 innings there this year
Tom Finnigan
08-11-09, 07:00 PM
Does anyone have a beat on where Chris Smith (GCL) is in his development. Seems he plays sparingly, and has not hit very much. Is he raw, and projectable, or is he looking like a bust?
Philip Hughes Fan
08-11-09, 07:10 PM
sure, but for all intensive purposes he is a SAL prospect, he pitched 95 innings there this year
Pet peeve: it's "intents and purposes"
bmxstreetrider86
08-11-09, 08:52 PM
Grammar Nazi.....sorry was typing quickly at work
CallOfTheCrow
08-12-09, 10:24 AM
Corban Joseph is 8th in the Sally League in BA, 9th in OBP, & 12th in OPS.
Banuelos is 7th in WHIP.
primetime714
08-12-09, 10:57 AM
Corban Joseph is 8th in the Sally League in BA, 9th in OBP, & 12th in OPS.
That's pretty impressive considering his poor first half. Although I'm sure a lot of guys such as former teammate Dan Brewer no longer qualify due to promotions.
Still what Corban is doing since the All-Star break is VERY impressive to say the least:
Post All-Star Break- .360 BA, .430 OBP, .512 SLG, .942 OPS
CallOfTheCrow
08-12-09, 11:06 AM
Pirela with impressive Post All-Star Break numbers too:
.308BA, .364OBP, .407SLG (.341 pre-all star), .771OPS (.708 pre) with 13 doubles. He had 4 the entire first half.
CallOfTheCrow
08-12-09, 11:49 AM
Other Post All-Star Break #s:
Austin Romine-.286BA, .358OBP, 450SLG, .808OPS
David Adams-.276BA, .361OBP, .455SLG, .816OPS
Brandon Laird-..295BA, .381OBP, .514SLG, .895OPS
indianyanksfan
08-12-09, 06:09 PM
our hitters are really getting hot! if our pitching didnt have so many damn injuries, we'd be rated as one of the top farm systems.
TheHugeUnit2
08-12-09, 08:30 PM
our hitters are really getting hot! if our pitching didnt have so many damn injuries, we'd be rated as one of the top farm systems.
I think we are in the top 10. A lot of teams had their top guys move onto the majors. We've had a lot of career years from out hitters too.
"Jimmy Paredes, Zoilo Almonte, Neil Medchill, DeAngelo Mack, Francisco Rondon, and Adam Warren are all headed to the NY-Penn League All Star Game. The game is being held on the campus of my alma mater, so if there’s any RAB readers out there kickin’ it at Penn State, make sure you check the game out next Tuesday. Boston’s Ryan Westmoreland is by far the best prospect elected to the game."
I just read that on fb. I can't believe we are sending that many without Vizcaino and Higashioka. Just shows how good of seasons some of our prospects are having. If Black signed earlier, he could have gone too.
Philip Hughes Fan
08-12-09, 11:13 PM
Maybe it could go elsewhere, but from the Callis chat someone posted in another thread in the minors section:
Ryan (Burlington, MA)
Hughes or Buchholz?
Jim Callis
(3:18 PM)
Hughes.
bmxstreetrider86
08-12-09, 11:25 PM
he also took tazawa over buchholz, maybe buying into Manuel's theories on pitching prospects
TheHugeUnit2
08-13-09, 12:35 AM
he also took tazawa over buchholz, maybe buying into Manuel's theories on pitching prospectsI was more impressed with Buchholz than Taz when I saw them pitch. Taz reminded me of Edwar 90 mph straight fastball, great secondary pitch(es).
I just hope Hughes can take his confidence from the bullpen and put that into his mindset when he starts.
yanke1313
08-14-09, 12:40 AM
Hughes!!
cuse621
08-14-09, 09:20 AM
How about the year this guy is having! Absolutely amazing stats! Anyone know anything about this guy?
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?pos=P&sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=542425
Yea, he is having fantasy like numbers, but I don't know a lot. Ask on the Domincan League thread. Domican Yankee is good at answering those questions
CallOfTheCrow
08-17-09, 10:45 AM
Jairo Heredia has been promoted to Tampa.
Jairo Heredia has been promoted to Tampa.Cuz he's good!
flymick24
08-17-09, 12:46 PM
finally, something decent to follow in tampa
CallOfTheCrow
08-17-09, 12:48 PM
finally, something decent to follow in tampa
Not interested in following Romine, Adams, or Mitchell?
what happened to Shaeffer Hall...he was drafted this year and pitched in 2 games for Staten Island, did he get hurt or something...thanks
yanke1313
08-17-09, 04:51 PM
what happened to Shaeffer Hall...he was drafted this year and pitched in 2 games for Staten Island, did he get hurt or something...thanks
Yea he's hurt. I think his back.
philleotardo
08-17-09, 10:18 PM
finally, something decent to follow in tampaHow about this?
Daniel Brewer in August
15 games, .393 BA, 1.030 OPS, 3 HR, 14 RBI
Had a 5 RBI game tonight, 2 games after a 4 RBI performance.
Yea he's hurt. I think his back.
thanks for the news....was wondering what happened to him
flymick24
08-18-09, 01:54 AM
Not interested in following Romine, Adams, or Mitchell?
forgot about romine
themgmt
08-18-09, 07:05 PM
Pat Venditte story about to run on Espn E:60
forgot about romine
Catching in Florida in the summer. Must be a precursor of hell.
Catching in Florida in the summer. Must be a precursor of hell.
Like catching for teh Texas Rangers in the summer. Wonder how I-Rod did it all those years.;)
jerez23
08-19-09, 07:14 AM
Pat Venditte story about to run on Espn E:60
The odds are still against this guy making the bigs are still against him, but so far so good. Curious how he will do at Trenton next year. Really would love to see him switch from side to side at the stadium.
primetime714
08-19-09, 09:02 AM
The odds are still against this guy making the bigs are still against him, but so far so good. Curious how he will do at Trenton next year. Really would love to see him switch from side to side at the stadium.
True, but his control from both sides is extremely impressive. His pure stuff certainly won't get him there, but so far he has displayed great control of several pitches from both sides. Next year is going to be key for him as he should start in Trenton and will be facing advanced competition. If he can carry over the same success he has had in the lower levels he will definitely get a shot at the major league level.
GeneralGao
08-19-09, 09:58 AM
True, but his control from both sides is extremely impressive. His pure stuff certainly won't get him there, but so far he has displayed great control of several pitches from both sides. Next year is going to be key for him as he should start in Trenton and will be facing advanced competition. If he can carry over the same success he has had in the lower levels he will definitely get a shot at the major league level.
From what I saw on ESPN, his velocity isn't all that bad either, to go along with his seemingly great control. 88-93 mph from the right side isn't too bad, and mid-80's from a Loogy-ish pitcher is solid.
jerez23
08-19-09, 07:18 PM
Wow, I see Medchill has cooled off. Average has fallen off to where Luke Murton has caught him. Deangelo Mack has been impressive. All three need to improve pitch selection to succeed otherwise they will flame out in High A ball. As college guys, can they improve? Or they are what they are now?
CallOfTheCrow
08-19-09, 08:50 PM
Per BA:
Melky Mesa voted on as the best outfield arm in the South Atlantic League. No other Charleston players got a mention in any other category.
McAllister voted on having the best control in the EL & Corona voted as best defensive second baseman.
philleotardo
08-19-09, 09:25 PM
Wow, I see Medchill has cooled off. Average has fallen off to where Luke Murton has caught him. Deangelo Mack has been impressive. All three need to improve pitch selection to succeed otherwise they will flame out in High A ball. As college guys, can they improve? Or they are what they are now?In fairness, Murton turned it on over the last few weeks.
Edit: On second look, Medchill really is having a crappy August.
OldYankeeFan
08-20-09, 09:15 AM
Recent Contreras quotes: (from Mike Ashmore's Thunder Thoughts)
On Ian Kennedy pitching a regular season game somewhere:
“I don’t think so. At least not in the minor leagues, unless the Triple-A team goes to the playoffs. Because he’s going to first BP that I’ve got him for on August 31st. So, that’s a BP, his first BP. So he’ll have another BP, then we’ll get him into some type of simulated games or something. Is it possible? Possible. A two inning job or something like that. But to be ready to pitch six, seven innings any place? No.”
On Alan Horne: “He pitches tomorrow in the Gulf Coast League. We’ll see how he does. I think his last outing, he went six innings and gave up three runs. But (Trenton’s staff) is set, there’s a lot of pitching.”
On Wilkin de la Rosa returning: “Our throwing program has him ready to pitch the last week of the season. But again, that’s on paper. He has to go out and see how he feels. Paper wise, with his rest and the work we’ll do with the sides and the long toss programs, we could get him to pitch in the last week and the playoffs, possibly. He’s got something wrong with the biceps tendon, that’s what it is.”
On Humberto Sanchez: “He’s coming along good. He’s lost weight, he’s pitching well, he’s competing, he’s regaining his arm strength. When I saw him in Harrisburg, it was the best I’ve seen him since we’ve had him.”
On Grant Duff: “Things are clicking for him. He’s got a power arm. We have Romulo Sanchez, who hits 99. Melancon’s hit 97. He’s in the top three or four (with velocity). At least second for sure. Romulo Sanchez is hitting 99 every game. He’s come really well, though. His delivery has really improved. The slider’s good, the split’s there. He’s done well.”
http://thunderbaseball.wordpress.com/2009/08/19/game-121122-pre-game-notes/
Don_Veto
08-20-09, 09:42 AM
Wow, didn't realize we had a flamethrower in our system. 99? Hope he becomes a bullpen piece down the line.
Edit: Nevermind, his numbers kind of suck.
JavyVazquezIsSick
08-20-09, 10:12 AM
He's 26 in AA, yikes...
dpbddd99
08-20-09, 11:11 AM
He's 26 in AA, yikes...
I believe you are thinking of the other Sanchez. This one is 25 and in AAA.
JavyVazquezIsSick
08-20-09, 11:16 AM
I believe you are thinking of the other Sanchez. This one is 25 and in AAA.
I was talking about Grant Duff.
I was talking about Grant Duff.
He was drafted at age 22, so he is not all that bad, considering he was an OF (I believe) when he came in. Not sure when he took to full time pitching.
Don_Veto
08-20-09, 11:38 AM
Murphy is in the lineup for the GCL Yanks today! 0-1 so far with an RBI Groundout.
CallOfTheCrow
08-20-09, 11:59 AM
Make that 1-2, 2RBI
BronxYanks45
08-21-09, 01:49 PM
heres the Pat Venditte piece from ESPN:
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=4407965
sure do hope he makes it to the majors, his numbers are decent. the thought of getting a 2 in 1 pitcher is cool, if can stretch out his arm he'd make a perfect long reliever
bmxstreetrider86
08-21-09, 03:02 PM
maybe its time to start paying a little more attention to melky mesa
HELIUM WATCH
Melky Mesa, of, Yankees: Besides having the coolest first name in the league—Melquisedec—Mesa has gained rave reviews from South Atlantic League managers. Said Charleston manager Torre Tyson: "Everybody always talks about him. He's a complete tool package. He impresses everybody with everything he does. He's the most fun guy to watch in the league." Signed out of the Dominican Republic in 2003 as a raw 16-year-old, Mesa spent four combined years in the DSL and GCL before playing 46 games in the New York-Penn League last year.
Now playing in his first full-season league, Mesa has hit an unimpressive .231. Delve a little deeper into the numbers, though, and Mesa's .458 slugging percentage is remarkable. Exactly half of Mesa's 98 hits—22 doubles, seven triples and 20 home runs—have gone for extra bases. With such power numbers, Tyson added that teams are "pitching Melky like he's Barry Bonds, not giving him much to hit." Despite a wiry 6-foot-1, 165-pound frame, Mesa generates great bat speed from his strong forearms, wrists and hands, yielding tremendous raw power. Mesa's biggest problem has been the strikeout. He's whiffed 140 times in 114 games, but just 15 of those have come in August. Last week, Mesa went 4-for-13 with a triple and five stolen bases, upping his season total to 15 swiped bags and showcasing plus speed. He also flashes a strong arm that one manager said grades out as a 70 on the scouting scale. For his current four-tool package, and potential five-tool value, Mesa has earned comparisons with Alfonso Soriano, another Dominican who traveled through the Yankees system.
obviously the K's are a huge concern, but its nice to see he has some excellent tools on top of the big time power
b_joseph
08-21-09, 03:56 PM
And according to Contreras, it seems unlikely Brackman will see the Waterfront Park mound in 2010.
“I would rather him continue to pitch the way he’s coming along now, and go to Tampa,” Contreras said.
“But that’s me talking. He may come to Major League camp in spring training, and if he’s blowing everyone away, he may end up in Scranton.”
I then asked Contreras if he felt Brackman was capable of accomplishing such a jump through the system.
“Well, when you’re throwing as hard as he does, and he has his curveball, the thing is just to make sure his delivery is right to be able to command the baseball,” Contreras said.
“This is his first full year. He pitched thirty-something innings in Hawaii last year. Prior to that, he hadn’t pitched. Even his senior year or junior year in college, and in his freshman year and sophomore year, he was playing basketball. So he had very few innings. So he’s got to learn how to pitch. He’s got stuff; but learning about holding runners, quick steps, PFP’s, delivery, mechanics, it’s a little time consuming.”
Contreras said that Brackman is currently being used as a reliever because first year guys are typically limited to 100-110 innings of work, so he now pitches two innings every fourth day.
Ashmore again.
ArodMVP217
08-21-09, 05:21 PM
maybe its time to start paying a little more attention to melky mesa
obviously the K's are a huge concern, but its nice to see he has some excellent tools on top of the big time power
220 isop + big sample size is definitely impressive. IDC what anyone says; definitely a prospect
CallOfTheCrow
08-22-09, 02:57 PM
"Via Chad Jennings, we learn the Yankees will send OF Colin Curtis, RHP Ian Kennedy, 3B Brandon Laird and C Austin Romine to the Arizona Fall League. LHP Mike Dunn is also likely headed there unless he gets a September call-up."
Philip Hughes Fan
08-22-09, 06:37 PM
No Montero then? How are we sending Romine and Laird anyway? I thought we could only send one prospect below AA.
That is only 4-6 players. Montero still could go. I don't know about the single A problem though. Maybe they will promote Laird?
Matsui55
08-23-09, 09:39 AM
maybe its time to start paying a little more attention to melky mesa
obviously the K's are a huge concern, but its nice to see he has some excellent tools on top of the big time power
He's one I was noting on another post earlier- he's one that might need a few more years in the low minors just to learn the strike zone, but the tools are off the charts. I can see him always being a high K guy because he will be aggressive, but if he can simply maintain a .260-.280 BA and can get his OBP over .340, he could be a monster in the 5-7 slots in the lineup.
Matsui55
08-23-09, 09:48 AM
No Montero then? How are we sending Romine and Laird anyway? I thought we could only send one prospect below AA.
I could see the Yanks pushing Romine to AA just before the playoffs (Tampa isn't going to the playoffs), and that should do it.
Mesa will be in Tampa next season.
Matsui55
08-23-09, 10:54 AM
Mesa will be in Tampa next season.
Sure, but I could see him repeating that level if he struggles with OBP and BA again. When he makes contact, amazing things happen- but he needs to learn through repetition what is a hittable pitch and what is a ball better to let go by or foul off.
Sure, but I could see him repeating that level if he struggles with OBP and BA again. When he makes contact, amazing things happen- but he needs to learn through repetition what is a hittable pitch and what is a ball better to let go by or foul off.He's gotten a bit better as the season has gone on, if you listen to the broadcasts. They'll advance him but stay on him about OBP. The league and park he plays in have suppressed his offense, and the FSL will, too as well as the Trenton park in AA.
b_joseph
08-23-09, 12:10 PM
His isolated OBP is very good. Its only low because he strikes out so much..he'd have to be Swisher-esque with his walking ability for it to look good as an number.
GrouchoNYY
08-23-09, 12:36 PM
I could see the Yanks pushing Romine to AA just before the playoffs (Tampa isn't going to the playoffs), and that should do it.
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Absolutely not so. Tampa leads its division by many games. It also qualifies if it has the second best divisional record if the same team (currently second) wins both halves. That is also the case. Tampa is almost a lead pipe cinch to go to the postseason.
BrandonA33
08-23-09, 03:53 PM
Not sure where to ask this, but I found this article and was wondering if anyone knows whats happening with the Hawaiian Winter League and the potential addition of a 2nd AZFL
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081216&content_id=3719541&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb
geodork
08-23-09, 09:15 PM
Not sure where to ask this, but I found this article and was wondering if anyone knows whats happening with the Hawaiian Winter League and the potential addition of a 2nd AZFL
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081216&content_id=3719541&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb
Don't know about a second Arizona Fall League, but so far as I know the Hawaiian Winter League is again defunct. Don't have a link right now, but its gone. Which sucks, it has been good to the Yankees.
Don_Veto
08-24-09, 11:19 AM
Heathcott leading off for the GCL and playing CF today!!! 0-1 so far.
yankstaketitle
08-24-09, 11:35 AM
Heathcott leading off for the GCL and playing CF today!!! 0-1 so far.
you had to post it in three different threads?
Don_Veto
08-24-09, 11:35 AM
you had to post it in three different threads?
Yup. To avoid being "scooped".
I could see the Yanks pushing Romine to AA just before the playoffs (Tampa isn't going to the playoffs), and that should do it.
Tampa is miles ahead of the pack in the 2nd half of the FSL season. I thought both halves division winners make the playoffs????
BomberBrian
08-24-09, 12:22 PM
Unless MLB changed the eligiblity rules with the Hawaii league folding we cannot send Romine and Laird.
Players need to be at the AA level by Aug 1st so promoting one of them now in an effort to comply with that rule won't help.
lemonjello
08-24-09, 01:50 PM
They can send at least 1 (possibly 2) people under AA to the AFL.
nnysiny
08-24-09, 05:08 PM
Yup. To avoid being "scooped".
perish the thought :lol:
Melan-cynic
08-24-09, 07:32 PM
perish the thought :lol:
Ignored for a reason.
Hangs out in the GT with a baby bottle and diapers.
McAllister and Sanchez got smoked today, not good. Mikey got kicked around.
For a while now they have been cobbling together starts out of relievers. A down cycle in pitching.
philleotardo
08-24-09, 10:15 PM
Lare:
7.2 IP, 4 H, 1 UER, 1 BB, 8 K.
Realizing he's slightly old for his leagues (SI/CHA) this is still nice (YTD):
72 IP, 71 K/ 9 BB.
McAllister and Sanchez got smoked today, not good. Mikey got kicked around.
For a while now they have been cobbling together starts out of relievers. A down cycle in pitching.
I think everything off Sanchez was unearned. Nunez made another error.
yankstaketitle
08-25-09, 03:08 PM
AZFL rosters are announced. for 2009 they are allowed 2 players under the AA level. heres the link:
http://mlb.mlb.com/documents/2009/08/25/6609210/1/AZ_Fall_Lge_rosters_09.pdf
CallOfTheCrow
08-25-09, 03:17 PM
Probably a dumb question but I'm going to ask anyway.
When teams send players to the AZFL, does that mean they're also somewhat high on a player & it's not just about getting more work in?
Melan-cynic
08-25-09, 03:21 PM
does that mean they're also somewhat high on a player & it's not just about getting more work in?
For the most part yes, I would say that's accurate.
I don't see many Anthony Claggett's going to the AzFL.
CallOfTheCrow
08-25-09, 03:23 PM
Kind of surprised that they're sending Colin Curts if that's the case.
Melan-cynic
08-25-09, 03:25 PM
I'm more surprised the Red Sox are sending Dustin Richardson.
yankstaketitle
08-25-09, 03:27 PM
Probably a dumb question but I'm going to ask anyway.
When teams send players to the AZFL, does that mean they're also somewhat high on a player & it's not just about getting more work in?
It's probably both. your two questions are somewhat connected. If they want the person to get more work in, then they must like the player they have. And if they like a player, then why would they not want to have the player get more work in? unless the person is tired out, hurt, or hit his innings limit.
Melan-cynic
08-25-09, 03:28 PM
They should have sent him to Knight School (http://www.tv-intros.com/k/knight%20school%20-%20intro%20-%20vcd1.wmv).
CallOfTheCrow
08-25-09, 03:30 PM
Laird's Pre & Post All-Star break #s are like night & day.
Pre: .242BA, .292OBP, .327SLG, .619OPS
Post: .294BA, .372OBP, .524SLG, .896OPS
If only he can maintain a certain balance, he can turn himself into a hell of a prospect.
Well, Cervelli is back in Scranton, got a 2B to center.
Kevin Russo singles on a ground ball to center fielder Chip Ambres.
Ramiro Pena singles on a soft ground ball to shortstop Argenis Reyes. Kevin Russo to 2nd.
Austin Jackson grounds into double play, shortstop Argenis Reyes to second baseman Luis Rivera to first baseman Mike Lamb. Kevin Russo to 3rd. Ramiro Pena out at 2nd.
I really hate chit like that. Hey, how a about a drag bunt. Jackson is fast no? The worst that can happen is that there are men in scoring position or better bases loaded and nobody out. These are the minors, teach them something. They get to the Majors and couldn't bunt to save their soul.
dpbddd99
08-25-09, 07:26 PM
From Baseball American's transaction this week: Signed: RHP Ryan Acosta
Anyone know who he is?
IrishYankee
08-25-09, 07:29 PM
Well, Cervelli is back in Scranton, got a 2B to center.
Kevin Russo singles on a ground ball to center fielder Chip Ambres.
Ramiro Pena singles on a soft ground ball to shortstop Argenis Reyes. Kevin Russo to 2nd.
Austin Jackson grounds into double play, shortstop Argenis Reyes to second baseman Luis Rivera to first baseman Mike Lamb. Kevin Russo to 3rd. Ramiro Pena out at 2nd.
I really hate chit like that. Hey, how a about a drag bunt. Jackson is fast no? The worst that can happen is that there are men in scoring position or better bases loaded and nobody out. These are the minors, teach them something. They get to the Majors and couldn't bunt to save their soul.
How about a little background on the situation? This is meaningless not knowing how many outs there are or the score/inning?
Also, I've SEEN AJ bunt, and he's pretty good at it. He did it twice in a game I was at in Providence, one resulted in a hit, the other was an attempt for a hit that moved a runner to 3rd (1st out) while trailing.
philleotardo
08-25-09, 07:30 PM
From Baseball American's transaction this week: Signed: RHP Ryan Acosta
Anyone know who he is?
http://thebaseballcube.com/players/A/Ryan-Acosta.shtml
2007 12th round pick of Cubs, 19 years old. Not much statistically to look at.
dpbddd99
08-25-09, 07:45 PM
http://thebaseballcube.com/players/A/Ryan-Acosta.shtml
2007 12th round pick of Cubs, 19 years old. Not much statistically to look at.
Thanks
How about a little background on the situation? This is meaningless not knowing how many outs there are or the score/inning?
Also, I've SEEN AJ bunt, and he's pretty good at it. He did it twice in a game I was at in Providence, one resulted in a hit, the other was an attempt for a hit that moved a runner to 3rd (1st out) while trailing.
You're right, I'm sorry. It was the third inning, no outs, no score.
I'm very glad to hear that Jackson is a good bunter.
what's up doc?
08-25-09, 10:51 PM
For the most part yes, I would say that's accurate.
I don't see many Anthony Claggett's going to the AzFL.
Now why would you say that? As a general rule, the hitters sent are much better prospects than the pitchers. The high end pitching prospects sent are usually those that missed a portion of the regular season. But, go ahead with your bad self.
NY_GOLDENARMS
08-25-09, 11:32 PM
Our 1st Rd pick in action.
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/gen/milb/photogallery/standard/year_2009/month_08/day_24/cf6596788.html
CallOfTheCrow
08-25-09, 11:36 PM
They have Angelini too.
NY_GOLDENARMS
08-25-09, 11:37 PM
D-Mack is tiny.
Melan-cynic
08-25-09, 11:42 PM
lol, son. Andrew Cashner, Phillippe Aumont, Josh Fields, Steven Strasburg, Drew Storen all wave hello.
NY_GOLDENARMS
08-25-09, 11:44 PM
Jimmy Paredes needs some supplements.
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/gen/milb/photogallery/standard/year_2009/month_08/day_18/cf6495024.html
CallOfTheCrow
08-25-09, 11:51 PM
Abe Almonte showing some Post All Star Break life:
211AB, .289BA, .339OBP, .412SLG, .751OPS, 9 2Bs, 7 3Bs, 20SB, 3CS
Joltin' Joe
08-26-09, 12:01 PM
I'm going to the Trenton game on Saturday, does anyone know who will be pitching? Hoping to see McAllister or De La Rosa. Thanks.
De la Rosa is out for the season. Bleich pitches Friday, Z-Mac pitches Saturday
JavyVazquezIsSick
08-28-09, 09:16 AM
Any updates on Vizcaino?
TheHugeUnit2
08-28-09, 09:21 AM
De la Rosa is out for the season.
What happened to him?
NelsonMuntz
08-28-09, 09:29 AM
Small sample size but it looks like Jason Hirsh has actually been pitching pretty well since the Yankees acquired him: 3 - 0, 1.71 ERA, 16 K, 4 BB.
Donnybaseball72
08-28-09, 09:38 AM
Small sample size but it looks like Jason Hirsh has actually been pitching pretty well since the Yankees acquired him: 3 - 0, 1.71 ERA, 16 K, 4 BB.
Any shot he gets added to the 40 man roster to compete for the 5th/spot starter role?
NelsonMuntz
08-28-09, 12:14 PM
Any shot he gets added to the 40 man roster to compete for the 5th/spot starter role?
I'd guess slim and none, but if he keeps pitching like this he might give us some much needed depth going into next season.
yankstaketitle
08-28-09, 12:34 PM
Eduardo Nunez only Trenton Thunder named to post-season all star team
CallOfTheCrow
08-28-09, 12:39 PM
No McAllister?
yankstaketitle
08-28-09, 12:46 PM
No McAllister?
nope, they just had one right handed starting pitcher and it was Jeanmar Gomez of the Aeros
Yankees got Carlos Ruiz for September call ups or so it appears.
I don't know if we traded anything or any reports, but he is on the SWB and 40 man rosters.
The Phillies must have gotten something though if they don't want Bako starting. They have no one in AAA from what I saw. I can't imagine us giving Cervelli. Maybe Molina but he stayed in the game tonight. Pillitere, Brian Peterson, Chris Stewart aren't too great for this.
EDIT: They didn't DFA anyone yet either. Mitre or Cash likely. Unfortunately more likely Mitre
TheHugeUnit2
08-28-09, 10:02 PM
Yankees got Carlos Ruiz for September call ups or so it appears.
I don't know if we traded anything or any reports, but he is on the SWB and 40 man rosters.
The Phillies must have gotten something though if they don't want Bako starting. They have no one in AAA from what I saw. I can't imagine us giving Cervelli. Maybe Molina but he stayed in the game tonight. Pillitere, Brian Peterson, Chris Stewart aren't too great for this.
EDIT: They didn't DFA anyone yet either. Mitre or Cash likely. Unfortunately more likely Mitre
What? They got him, where did you hear this?
He is on the Milb.com roster.
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?pos=C&sid=t531&t=p_pbp&pid=434563
Yankee Steve
08-28-09, 10:14 PM
That can't be correct. Ruiz caught tonight for the Phils. Must be a different Ruiz...
Hitting .231 on the season? Lehigh Valley the AAA team? This has to be it.
TheHugeUnit2
08-28-09, 10:20 PM
Probably a glitch in the system.
TheHugeUnit2
08-28-09, 10:23 PM
It has to be, why would the phillies trade away their starting catcher?
I have no idea, but do we know if he was placed on waivers and when?
Maybe we gave them something good.
daneptizl
08-28-09, 10:43 PM
Ruiz isn't listed on the Yanks' 40 man.
It says YES under 40 man on the web site. that is what I am going by.
Scouting The Sally
08-29-09, 09:49 AM
I think Banuelos has been forgotten. He would definitely be in my league top 20.
I agree. Banuelos has done a nice job. Lakewood is stacked and would have several players there though (Gose and maybe a few of the struggling players. Not sure if Trevor May has been there all year). A lot of other teams with good prospects have come on in the 2nd half as well. Would you rank Melky Mesa or any of our 3 IFers (Lassiter, Joseph, Pirela)? They are probably close if not in it.
Melan-cynic
08-30-09, 01:02 AM
I think Banuelos has been forgotten. He would definitely be in my league top 20.
I'm assuming you've been fortunate enough to see him live and if so, do you have video/radar readings?
Thanks in advance.
AcidLake
08-30-09, 11:08 AM
Dellin Betances had tommy john surgery per Pete
Dr. Andrews got closer of his pursuit to purchasing a extra filter system in his swimming pool
NYYRules#1
08-30-09, 11:23 AM
Dellin Betances had tommy john surgery per Pete
Dr. Andrews got closer of his pursuit to purchasing a extra filter system in his swimming pool
This was inevitable, basically. I don't think anyone expected him not to need TJS at some point after all his elbow problems.
I'm assuming he's missing next season and could be ready to rehab in the AzFL or Hawaii or some other fall/winter league next year. Those are a little over a year away. Should definitely be ready for 2011 though.
Oh great. I was expecting him to get it, but then someone posted that he wouldn't need it. Kind of clears up the Tampa pitching jam for 2010 though. Instead of eight starters, we only have seven (and Jason Stephens is a free agent so kind of 6 if we don't sign him).
JavyVazquezIsSick
08-30-09, 11:27 AM
Took long enough.
Betances, Garcia, Kontos all had TJ surgery this year. What the heck is going on? Is this preventable or is it a physical defect?
primetime714
08-30-09, 11:42 AM
Dellin Betances had tommy john surgery per Pete
Dr. Andrews got closer of his pursuit to purchasing a extra filter system in his swimming pool
I think we all saw this coming and it was probably a year or so later than it should've been. Hopefully he can bounce back, but at the very least this really sets his timetable back. However something needed to be done he was regressing as a prospect.
CallOfTheCrow
08-30-09, 01:48 PM
Betances has been on the DL for what, 2+ months with elbow issues? Why now on August 30 did they up & say "You know what? Dellin needs TJ" ?
What could have possibly changed so dramatically that they couldn't have done this 2 months ago?
TheHugeUnit2
08-30-09, 01:50 PM
Betances, Garcia, Kontos all had TJ surgery this year. What the heck is going on? Is this preventable or is it a physical defect?Marshall too.
CallOfTheCrow
08-30-09, 01:56 PM
Garcia had TJ? I thought they were just cleaning up some chips from his previous surgery?
NYYRules#1
08-30-09, 04:34 PM
Garcia had TJ? I thought they were just cleaning up some chips from his previous surgery?
I don't think it was TJ - I heard it was bone chips as well.
Still, Garcia is just one long perpetual injury. He's verging on being a non-prospect as a result of his inability to stay healthy,
b_joseph
08-30-09, 05:31 PM
Do we get more pitching injuries in the minors compared to most teams or does it just seem that way?
philleotardo
08-30-09, 05:35 PM
It seems like when these guys get drafted, you here how one of the first things that's going to happen is to "clean up his mechanics." What is that achieving? I'm asking this seriously. It's certainly not preventing motion-related injuries.
lemonjello
08-30-09, 07:34 PM
I do wonder if the Yanks are taking more high-ceiling guys with questionable mechanics in the draft than most teams. These players would presumably get injured more frequently, but evidently the Yankees are comfortable with the risks involved.
NY_GOLDENARMS
08-30-09, 07:56 PM
Do we get more pitching injuries in the minors compared to most teams or does it just seem that way?
When your farm system is pitching heavy and they make up the majority of your top prospects, when they go down, its far more devastating to the organizations depth compared to there being more balance.
Plus, there is no greater injury risk than a pitching prospect.
NY_GOLDENARMS
08-30-09, 08:07 PM
I do wonder if the Yanks are taking more high-ceiling guys with questionable mechanics in the draft than most teams. These players would presumably get injured more frequently, but evidently the Yankees are comfortable with the risks involved.
That's part of playing the hand your dealt and because they pick at the bottom of all the rounds, their choices are usually, lowest ceiling for that round or someone that has some sort of risk involved (monetary, physical, etc.) but they provide the highest reward and I prefer they take the risk. Problem is they make some questionable picks at times.
kongull
08-30-09, 08:16 PM
When your farm system is pitching heavy and they make up the majority of your top prospects, when they go down, its far more devastating to the organizations depth compared to there being more balance.
Plus, there is no greater injury risk than a pitching prospect.
In terms of raw numbers, forget about high ceiling pitchers, do the yankees minor players have TJ surgery more than other organizations? Every organization has the same number of pitchers. What people are wondering is do other organizations have as many players getting TJ surgery whether they are scrubs or not?
NY_GOLDENARMS
08-30-09, 08:28 PM
In terms of raw numbers, forget about high ceiling pitchers, do the yankees minor players have TJ surgery more than other organizations? Every organization has the same number of pitchers. What people are wondering is do other organizations have as many players getting TJ surgery whether they are scrubs or not?
I like to follow the minor leagues and not just our system but don't have any raw numbers to back this up but my personal opinion is that our injuries are not disproportionate then what other organizations experience.
The problem is, the guys that are going down are higher profile since the organization chooses to focus on drafting pitching and taking guys with some risk involved to compensate for their draft position.
flymick24
08-31-09, 09:04 AM
I don't think it was TJ - I heard it was bone chips as well.
Still, Garcia is just one long perpetual injury. He's verging on being a non-prospect as a result of his inability to stay healthy,
well, along with the injuries, his stuff isn't where it was pre-TJ, so that's the most disconcerting thing of all
i don't see him staying on the 40-man this off-season
JavyVazquezIsSick
08-31-09, 09:16 AM
I'm happy I got to see him pitch.
nnysiny
08-31-09, 09:24 AM
It seems like when these guys get drafted, you here how one of the first things that's going to happen is to "clean up his mechanics." What is that achieving? I'm asking this seriously. It's certainly not preventing motion-related injuries.
the mechanics of amateur pitchers is usually very poor
philleotardo
08-31-09, 09:54 AM
the mechanics of amateur pitchers is usually very poorWhat makes them poor? They look bad?
Maybe I missed it but no one said that Romine was FSL player of the year. That is pretty major. 6 hours and no one says anything?
Brandon Laird, Jon Hovis, and Lance Pendleton were all on the postseason team too. Really excited about those guys.
Other notables: David Bromberg (Pitcher of Year), Ben Revere, Starlin Castro.
and Luis Sojo is a coach on the team.
Humberto Sanchez and Eric Wordekemper going to Scranton hopefully to accompany Whelan off the DL for the bullpen.
For Charleston, they got 3B of the year. (Not Lassiter lol). Corban Joseph
Melky Mesa was the 4th OF. David Phelps was best RHP.
Other notable prospects: Anthony Gose, Derek Norris, Tim Beckham, Rudy Owens (beat ManBan for LHP), Jordan Pacheco (MVP)
and Luis Sojo is a coach on the team.
Humberto Sanchez and Eric Wordekemper going to Scranton hopefully to accompany Whelan off the DL for the bullpen.
For Charleston, they got 3B of the year. (Not Lassiter lol). Corban Joseph
Melky Mesa was the 4th OF. David Phelps was best RHP.
Other notable prospects: Anthony Gose, Derek Norris, Tim Beckham, Rudy Owens (beat ManBan for LHP), Jordan Pacheco (MVP)
Sanchez and Wordy going to Scranton to replace a couple of guys coming to the Yankees - probably Melancon and Alby.
nnysiny
09-02-09, 10:42 AM
What makes them poor? They look bad?
it just makes them more likely to get injured and have a shorter career. the organizations/coaches the prospects play for are usually inept or ignorant when it comes to mechanics. they only care about the short term, so if they can get better results with more dangerous long-term mechanics, they wont change anything
philleotardo
09-02-09, 08:58 PM
it just makes them more likely to get injured and have a shorter career. the organizations/coaches the prospects play for are usually inept or ignorant when it comes to mechanics. they only care about the short term, so if they can get better results with more dangerous long-term mechanics, they wont change anythingI don't see how the "more likely to get injured" argument works here, considering the guys we listed as having TJS have all had their mechanics tweaked.
I don't see how the "more likely to get injured" argument works here, considering the guys we listed as having TJS have all had their mechanics tweaked.
The real trick here is for whoever is doing the work with their pitchers is to realize (pleeeeze) that each pitcher's mechanics are going to differ. You can't "cookie-cut" everyone to do the same thing mechanically. If you insist on making everybody the same you're asking for and going to have major problems with both the health of and performance level of your pitchers. To be successful you have to recognize and pitch with each individual pitcher's strength--whether it be arm slot, velocity, number of pitches the individual has that he uses effectively, or command/control. Obviously you want the most effective package of all the above but, IMO, you should also want that package to be reached with each indivdual pitcher's strengths, not just with the "this is the way we do it here" approach.
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