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NY_GOLDENARMS
07-31-09, 11:39 PM
Time to wrap up the season strong.
rpimpsner
08-01-09, 12:51 PM
Just a reminder I will be twittering during today's doubleheader. Sean Black and Adam Warren will be on the mound.
bmxstreetrider86
08-01-09, 12:53 PM
Just a reminder I will be twittering during today's doubleheader. Sean Black and Adam Warren will be on the mound.
hide your babies everyone! JVIS will be looking for one to punch
NY_GOLDENARMS
08-01-09, 01:21 PM
GCL Yankees as a team just stop hitting for the most part.
Brett Gerritse made his debut finally.
bmxstreetrider86
08-01-09, 01:32 PM
damn the phills signed singleton? good for them
Gerritse 2.0 2 0 0 0 1 0 0.
rpimpsner
08-01-09, 05:26 PM
SI Yankees up 2-0 in the second. Follow at www.twitter.com/BabyBombers
Yankee Steve
08-01-09, 05:40 PM
SI up 3-0, 4 consecutive doubles score the 3 runs. The first of those doubles by Mack, who has been hitting really well.
Yankee Steve
08-01-09, 05:54 PM
AJax 1 for 2 with a triple, 2 RBIs. Scranton up 6-1 in the first game of a DH. Igawa on the mound vs. Pawtucket.
Yankee Steve
08-01-09, 05:58 PM
David Adams was 2 for 4 with 2 doubles, 3 RBIs as Tampa wins. Verditte won the game but cuffed around a bit.
Yankee Steve
08-01-09, 06:01 PM
At SI, Warren has pitched 4 innings of scoreless baseball, having allowed 2 hits, striking out 4 and no bases on balls. To this point, his ERA is 0.87.
Yankee Steve
08-01-09, 06:18 PM
Montero - 1 for 1 with an RBI. Nunez with a hit as well as Trenton leads 1-0. Montero now up to .317.
Yankee Steve
08-01-09, 06:22 PM
Warren through 5 - still only 2 hits and no walks.
Yankee Steve
08-01-09, 06:27 PM
Warren through 6, 3 hits, no walks, 4 K's. Hmm...
TheHugeUnit2
08-01-09, 07:06 PM
Warren through 6, 3 hits, no walks, 4 K's. Hmm...
Call him up! He's been pretty good any chance he finishes in A ball or maybe starts next year in Tampa?
rpimpsner
08-01-09, 07:27 PM
I am getting the gun readings and pitch counts on the starters for each game. Follow along on twitter for the live updates. I update as it happens.
Nettles9
08-01-09, 09:15 PM
Call him up! He's been pretty good any chance he finishes in A ball or maybe starts next year in Tampa?
Any chance he can start next week in Toronto? :P
just-blaze
08-01-09, 09:24 PM
Well well well, judd hirsh.
Nice little outing, might have to give you a start one of these days in the Bronx.
just-blaze
08-01-09, 09:30 PM
I am getting the gun readings and pitch counts on the starters for each game. Follow along on twitter for the live updates. I update as it happens.
Where on twitter?
daneptizl
08-01-09, 11:31 PM
Here:www.twitter.com/BabyBombers (http://www.twitter.com/BabyBombers)
Warren was apparently sitting 92, hitting 96.... terrible draft choice... little to no upside...
ArodMVP217
08-02-09, 12:09 AM
Here:www.twitter.com/BabyBombers (http://www.twitter.com/BabyBombers)
Warren was apparently sitting 92, hitting 96.... terrible draft choice... little to no upside...
Senior in College = no upside at all.
I wonder is Warren is past the 30 day mark.
daneptizl
08-02-09, 09:47 AM
I wonder is Warren is past the 30 day mark.
That's what I was wondering about too. Does the time begin when you get signed, start throwing period, or when you first get into games?
rpimpsner
08-02-09, 11:23 AM
That's what I was wondering about too. Does the time begin when you get signed, start throwing period, or when you first get into games?
I will start my player features up sometime soon and I plan on doing one on Warren. I might hold off on the Vizcaino features since everyone is basically doing one on him.
Warren has been getting better each time out. He was a young senior in college and is one of those that can still improve. Adam is expected to be a fast riser in the farm system, likely starting out next season in Tampa. His velocity is getting better as is his control. A pitcher with command of four-pitches and good velocity is defenatly not a terrible draft choice.
yankee82093
08-02-09, 11:30 AM
I will start my player features up sometime soon and I plan on doing one on Warren. I might hold off on the Vizcaino features since everyone is basically doing one on him.
Warren has been getting better each time out. He was a young senior in college and is one of those that can still improve. Adam is expected to be a fast riser in the farm system, likely starting out next season in Tampa. His velocity is getting better as is his control. A pitcher with command of four-pitches and good velocity is defenatly not a terrible draft choice.
I personally really like Warren also. It would be nice if the Yankees started him in tampa next year, or promoted him there now. He doesn't walk anyone and gets lots of groundballs, a very effective skillset.
btw rpimpsner can you accept my request on twitter to follow you? my account there is also Yankee82093.
rpimpsner
08-02-09, 11:33 AM
I personally really like Warren also. It would be nice if the Yankees started him in tampa next year, or promoted him there now. He doesn't walk anyone and gets lots of groundballs, a very effective skillset.
btw rpimpsner can you accept my request on twitter to follow you? my account there is also Yankee82093.
Already done. I dont think the Yankees will promote him this year, especially with the likely hood he could get more experience in the playoffs. With the season series with Brooklyn over these guys just got through their first big rivalary experience as pros.
yankee82093
08-02-09, 06:34 PM
Viz: 5 innings, two hits, two walks, 6 strikeouts, 4-5 GB/FB, 0 ER. Studly. I'm officially changing my position from ManBan to Viz.
Murton is starting to hammer.
rpimpsner
08-02-09, 06:54 PM
I am going to let you guys decide the first feature I will write.
Arodys Vizcaino
Adam Warren
Francisco Rondon
Neil Medchill
DeAngelo Mack
Kyle Higashioka
scooterfan
08-02-09, 07:09 PM
Viz: 5 innings, two hits, two walks, 6 strikeouts, 4-5 GB/FB, 0 ER. Studly. I'm officially changing my position from ManBan to Viz.
If you remember those old ads from the 80s, "Nobody beats the Viz"
I have to check out the highlights on MILB.tv when it's archived.
In Scranton, AJax might be snapping out of his recent slump - 2 hits, 2 RBIs vs the Pawsox tonight... and a solid start from Josh Towers.
Hughes2.50
08-02-09, 07:46 PM
I wonder is Warren is past the 30 day mark.
That's what I was wondering about too. Does the time begin when you get signed, start throwing period, or when you first get into games?Warren first pitching for SI was July 1st. He has pitched on schedule since then without missing a start. Since he has just passed the 30 day mark pitching with his own technique, one has to wonder if the Yankees will interrupt him now to break him down, or if they feel that they have already been able to do that in sideline sessions.
Hughes2.50
08-02-09, 07:50 PM
I am going to let you guys decide the first feature I will write.
Arodys Vizcaino
Adam Warren
Francisco Rondon
Neil Medchill
DeAngelo Mack
Kyle HigashiokaIn order my interests are<br>#1 Medchill<br>#2 Warren<br>#3 Vizcaino
AcidLake
08-02-09, 07:53 PM
with vizcaino only few months older than me, he looks like he could improve in his overall velocity as the time goes.. not to mention he'll be more consistent in command/control as the time goes
so present Vizcaino + improving command + improving stuff + more experience = next Pedro???
I'd love to read Mack then Warren, Higashioka
TheHugeUnit2
08-02-09, 08:22 PM
I'd love to read Mack then Warren, Higashioka
I'd go this order too. I like Medchill and Vizcaino both better than those three but I rarely see anything on them and I'm interested to learn about them.
just-blaze
08-02-09, 08:57 PM
David Adams is certainly having himself an under the radar season.
Mack is doing just as well as Medchill, but isn't as profiled because of less power.
Hughes2.50
The clock probably starts when they show up and not right with the first start.
Hughes2.50
08-03-09, 12:18 AM
Hughes2.50
The clock probably starts when they show up and not right with the first start. Maybe. In that case Warren is well past the 30 days where the Yankees shutdown newly drafted pitchers to break down their technique.
MTYankee23
08-03-09, 08:19 AM
Maybe. In that case Warren is well past the 30 days where the Yankees shutdown newly drafted pitchers to break down their technique.
So according to Rob, he's getting better in each start, he's sitting 92, hitting 96. And we're going to break down his technique? Why? Because they always do? Do we have ton of actual proof that their technique breakdowns have paid off in a lot of cases?
Metroidman
08-03-09, 01:22 PM
So according to Rob, he's getting better in each start, he's sitting 92, hitting 96. And we're going to break down his technique? Why? Because they always do? Do we have ton of actual proof that their technique breakdowns have paid off in a lot of cases?
They took Joba from sitting 92 and topping at 94 to sitting 96 and topping at 100 before injury
Haven't talked with Alan yet, but here's his line for the day--
5.0 IP/ 1 H/ 0 R/ 0 ER/ 3 BB/ 3 K/ 0 HR
I know he was on about a 60 pitch day today so I'm figuring he must have been pretty efficient to log 5 complete.
JavyVazquezIsSick
08-03-09, 01:47 PM
Would Alan have any issues throwing in relief?
MTYankee23
08-03-09, 01:56 PM
They took Joba from sitting 92 and topping at 94 to sitting 96 and topping at 100 before injury
Do we have any actual evidence of this, I feel as though some people on the forum who watched him at Nebraska felt that at the end of his career there, his velocity was 94-96.
Would Alan have any issues throwing in relief?
All I can tell you is I've always heard Alan answer that question with "I want to pitch in the big leagues---whatever it takes".
I've also heard him say that decision is not in his hands, he'll do whatever he has to to get there.
b_joseph
08-03-09, 02:02 PM
They took Joba from sitting 92 and topping at 94 to sitting 96 and topping at 100 before injuryJoba threw high 90's before he was drafted...by his own admission.
Lots of ncie stuff to read in that first interview actually. How he compares himself to Zambrano and how his biggest weakness is 2nd guessing. He was very honest.
scooterfan
08-03-09, 03:11 PM
Haven't talked with Alan yet, but here's his line for the day--
5.0 IP/ 1 H/ 0 R/ 0 ER/ 3 BB/ 3 K/ 0 HR
I know he was on about a 60 pitch day today so I'm figuring he must have been pretty efficient to log 5 complete.
That's a pretty promising line - even with the 3 walks. I'm sure he can tell you how he felt - which at this point is far more important than the results - and what pitches he threw.
At some point I'd expect they'll bump him up when his arm strength is where they want it, and when he has feel of his breaking stuff
Alan and Manny Barreda were both lights out today.
yanke1313
08-03-09, 03:58 PM
Barreda 2 IP 2 K's good to see that he's on his way back. Next year will be a big year for him.
daneptizl
08-03-09, 06:31 PM
Mack is doing just as well as Medchill, but isn't as profiled because of less power.
:confused::confused::confused:
The homerun difference is really all. Do you mean that b/c he isn't the same type of prospect?
Mack .300, 4 HR, 22 RBIs, 2 SB/3 CS, 2 OF Assists, 2 Errors, 21 Ks/6 BB, .851 OPS
Medchill .304, 9 HR, 26 RBIs, 4 SBs/1 CS, 0 OF Assists, 1 Error, 36 Ks/14 BB, .978 OPS
OPS is really the only major difference other than HR (which I said with less power). Defense give the edge to Mack (even though he is playing RF as a natural LF). Batting Averages are within a few points. A few RBIs seperate them. SBs I guess you can give to Medchill b/c of both % and a couple more. Neither is that fast though. With more Ks come more BBs (and HRs) it appears so it depends how you like that.
Now Mack is hitting .303 and Medchill is hitting .299. The stats are so close that they will keep flipflopping when one gets an RBI/SB/Hit. They are both having great years.
primetime714
08-03-09, 08:16 PM
Would Alan have any issues throwing in relief?
A healthy Horne could find himself on the fast track to the majors as a starter given our current lack of depth. Long term his future with this team may be in the bullpen, but if he pitches like he did pre-injury he could easily jump ahead of the rest of the bunch.
Although that's probably pushing it as he'll probably need some time to get everything working again. So far so good though.
daneptizl
08-03-09, 08:47 PM
The sub .340 OBP by Mack isn't very exciting.... while Medchill's at .371. That's a significant difference besides the power.
I added OPS as well. I said he walks more, but he also K's more.
They'll work on Mack isoD.
yankstaketitle
08-03-09, 11:35 PM
I know this isnt game, but theres no non game thread so itll be here. Marshall has high hopes of being in the majors in 3-4. This article is all about him and his TJ
“This is a little speedbump in the road for me,” he said. “I think I’ll be able to throw a little faster when I come back. I’m glad it’s happening when I’m this age and not three or four years down the road when I’m on the verge of getting called up (to the majors).”
if you would like to read the article: http://baytownsun.com/story.lasso?ewcd=b7ee51c26ca80521
rpimpsner
08-04-09, 11:08 AM
Gotham Baseball's website is experiencing some trouble and it is likely that in order to fix it they would have to wipe it out and start from scratch. So for the time being I wont be publishing the game recaps, however I will still be at the games and I will work on several features. As well as some more videos and photos.
bmxstreetrider86
08-04-09, 05:25 PM
KDL 2-4 BB no k's
Yankee Steve
08-04-09, 07:06 PM
Phelps for Tampa tonight - 4 innings, 2 hits, 0 runs, 4 K's, 0 BB. ERA now down to 0.53
Yankee Steve
08-04-09, 07:18 PM
Add one more inning, 0 Runs, 4 hits, 5 K's, 0 BB... This guy has been dealing...
TheHugeUnit2
08-04-09, 07:33 PM
Tampa's boxscore has Phelps down for 6 IP 2 hits 1 BB 0 Runs and 8 Ks
Yankee Steve
08-04-09, 07:34 PM
Can anyone tell us what this guy throws and how quick his heater is? He obviously is doing something very right.
GeneralGao
08-04-09, 07:58 PM
Can anyone tell us what this guy throws and how quick his heater is? He obviously is doing something very right.
I would love to know this, too.
Scouring the interwebs:
I got this:
Phelps pitches with an average major league fastball, according to Clinkscales, a former scout with the Braves and Devil Rays. He sits in the 88-91 range and touches 93, and it jumps on hitters because of his deceptive delivery. His changeup has been a go-to pitch for him this year, and he also works in a tight 1-to-7 curveball and a slider at times. He does a good job getting ahead in counts by spotting his fastball, then changing planes with his curve. The total package has been very impressive.
http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/college/weekend-preview/2007/263887.html (5/11/07)
Maybe he added some velocity. But that report right there, is decent already.
AcidLake
08-04-09, 08:00 PM
he touched 95 recently, so his velocity could've gone up
Yankee Steve
08-04-09, 08:06 PM
De La Rosa - 6 innings with 1 walk, 7 K's. That's all I am saying...
Yankee Steve
08-04-09, 08:51 PM
De La Rosa finished up with 7 innings, 1 hit, 1 BB, 7 K's. Allowed the only hit in the 7th.
Nice outing for Richardson lol
2.2 innings, 9 runs (8 earned), 8 hits, 2 walks, 3 strikeouts.
SI trails 20-0
Yankee Steve
08-04-09, 08:56 PM
Interesting appearance for Brackman tonight. 2 innings, 3 hits, 2 runs, 1 BB and 6 strikeouts...
NY_GOLDENARMS
08-04-09, 09:03 PM
and 3 wild pitches.
b_joseph
08-04-09, 09:08 PM
WDR needed that...hopefully he can finish strong
AROD800HRS
08-04-09, 10:39 PM
Nice outings by WDR and Phelps tonight. Good to see.
bmxstreetrider86
08-04-09, 10:39 PM
one of brackman's WP's was on a K
yanke1313
08-05-09, 01:41 PM
It's good to see Brack improving the control a bit. Only one walk in 2 IP.
eaganmafia
08-05-09, 03:42 PM
It's good to see Brack improving the control a bit. Only one walk in 2 IP.
Nothing like lowering your standards...
Hughes2.50
08-05-09, 05:41 PM
Hughes2.50
The clock probably starts when they show up and not right with the first start.Lane Meyer posted yesterday that he just asked Warren the question we've talked about and Warren said they Yankees have lately worked on his curveball and have made some 'mechanical tweaks.' It looks (based on those comments and the fact that he hasn't missed any starts) like they decided to work with Warren on the side sessions instead of just shutting him down. Further, Warren confirmed that in his last start he was sitting at 92 and touched 96.
yanke1313
08-05-09, 07:38 PM
Nunez 1/2 1hr
Bleich 5 ip 9 h 4 er 1 bb 6k
yanke1313
08-05-09, 07:39 PM
Heredia 5 ip 6 k's nothing else.
yanke1313
08-05-09, 07:40 PM
Medchill- 2/2 1 3b 2 rbi.
bmxstreetrider86
08-05-09, 07:40 PM
austin "i guess you will have to settle for me" romine is 1-3 with a BB
yanke1313
08-05-09, 07:43 PM
Heredia- 5.2 Ip 2 h 7 k's no-no broken up on a single to right field.
bmxstreetrider86
08-05-09, 07:44 PM
kyle "yes another catcher" higashioka is 2-3 with 2 2B's
Philip Hughes Fan
08-05-09, 07:58 PM
Man I really wish Montero could have faced Pedro.
Did anyone ever get a specific injury on Jairo? I really like him still, not quite as much as Arodys but just about as much as Manny.
Philip Hughes Fan
08-05-09, 08:05 PM
A certain 2B is 3-4 with another 2B. More and more I think he's a top 10 guy for us.
yanke1313
08-05-09, 08:08 PM
A certain 2B is 3-4 with another 2B. More and more I think he's a top 10 guy for us.
Yeah. His average is up to .301.
bmxstreetrider86
08-05-09, 08:15 PM
anyone have Higashioka's CS/SB numbers?
Philip Hughes Fan
08-05-09, 08:19 PM
Before tonight 38 SB 12 CS 24%. It's up quite a bit from last year at least.
Romine has another hit, now 2-4 with a BB.
TheHugeUnit2
08-05-09, 08:27 PM
kyle "yes another catcher" higashioka is 2-3 with 2 2B'sI really like him, hope he continues to stay hot.
Philip Hughes Fan
08-05-09, 08:29 PM
Medchill adds a HR. 3-4, 3B, HR, and a K. Guess he's broken out of his minislump.
bmxstreetrider86
08-05-09, 11:02 PM
what the hell is going on with romine? 2 BB's tonight?
6/6 BB/K in his past 10 games, "up" to 20 BB's on the year
Snatch Catch
08-06-09, 07:53 AM
what the hell is going on with romine? 2 BB's tonight?
6/6 BB/K in his past 10 games, "up" to 20 BB's on the year
I'm intrigued.
Are any of them intentional?
bmxstreetrider86
08-06-09, 11:41 AM
not that i know of
Warren 4.2IP 7H 1R 1ER 0BB 4SO 9-0 GO/AO
I start to like this pick.
lemonjello
08-06-09, 09:21 PM
Warren 4.2IP 7H 1R 1ER 0BB 4SO 9-0 GO/AO
I start to like this pick.
He gave up a run? Unacceptable!
philleotardo
08-06-09, 09:28 PM
Warren 4.2IP 7H 1R 1ER 0BB 4SO 9-0 GO/AO
I start to like this pick.I'll one-up ya.
DJ Mitchell
6 IP, 5 H, 1 ER, 0 BB, 8 K.
Melan-cynic
08-06-09, 09:42 PM
They took Joba from sitting 92 and topping at 94 to sitting 96 and topping at 100 before injury
Huh? Either you misread something or are simply making something up. Joba topped out at 98 and consistently hit 97 while sitting 93-95 during starts at Nebraska.
GeneralGao
08-06-09, 10:16 PM
Huh? Either you misread something or are simply making something up. Joba topped out at 98 and consistently hit 97 while sitting 93-95 during starts at Nebraska.
I think that Joba did have some issues with injuries, leading to some drop in velocity to the 92-94 range mentioned. And that's why he fell in the draft. When healthy at Nebraska, though, he probably did reach 98.
I have no facts to base my opinions on, that's just what I think could be the case.
Hughes2.50
08-06-09, 11:44 PM
Huh? Either you misread something or are simply making something up. Joba topped out at 98 and consistently hit 97 while sitting 93-95 during starts at Nebraska.Although Metroidman was slightly off in his estimates so were you. Chamberlain was sitting at <a href="http://www.baseballamerica.com/draftdb/2006team.php?team=NYY">92-94</a> (he was a starter at Nebraska) at Nebraska before he was drafted, and after the Yankees worked with him around his Hawaiian stint (sitting <a href="http://www.jetsinsider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=160628">96-97</a> in starts).<p>So Metroidman's major point that the Yankees were able to move Chamberlain's velocity up after working with him is correct, and your criticism is innaccurate in general.
Melan-cynic
08-07-09, 12:28 AM
Although Metroidman was slightly off in his estimates so were you. Chamberlain was sitting at 92-94 (http://www.baseballamerica.com/draftdb/2006team.php?team=NYY) (he was a starter at Nebraska) at Nebraska before he was drafted, and after the Yankees worked with him around his Hawaiian stint (sitting 96-97 (http://www.jetsinsider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=160628) in starts).So Metroidman's major point that the Yankees were able to move Chamberlain's velocity up after working with him is correct, and your criticism is innaccurate in general.
lol. Nope, not "innaccurate" at all actually. :lol:
Metroidman said he topped out at 94 before joining the Yankees. He topped out at 98 and touched 97 in many, many starts in college. Hm.. topping out at 94 and topping out at 98? Yes, my criticism of that opinion was generally, specifically and indifferently accurate.
Never said the Yankees didn't help gain a couple ticks out of Joba's FB [you again miss the point], but I did specify it was not nearly as dramatic an increase as Metroid intimated [4+ mph]. Instead of sitting 92-95 or 96 and maxing out at 97-98 he became a guy who was consistently 94-97 and hitting 99 by the time he was in Trenton when I saw him.
But nice try, anyway.
Don_Veto
08-07-09, 08:32 AM
You guys shouldn't argue...you have the same avatar. Can't we all just get along?
YESSIR!
08-07-09, 09:49 AM
Warren 4.2IP 7H 1R 1ER 0BB 4SO 9-0 GO/AO
I start to like this pick.
Warren has definitely been impressive:
Only 3 BB with 28 SO's in 37.2 IP. Out of the 31 hits he's given up only 3 have been for extra bases (2 doubles and a homerun), supported by a groundball rate of nearly 70%.
That's a damn fine job he's done so far in the Penn League.
Donnybaseball72
08-07-09, 10:34 AM
You guys shouldn't argue...you have the same avatar. Can't we all just get along?
It never ceases to amaze me how fans of the same team and interests in the advancement of the same players can bicker so much. :-2cents-:
Matsui55
08-07-09, 11:16 AM
I'll one-up ya.
DJ Mitchell
6 IP, 5 H, 1 ER, 0 BB, 8 K.
Hard to believe he was an OF at Clemson a couple years ago.
Matsui55
08-07-09, 11:17 AM
what the hell is going on with romine? 2 BB's tonight?
6/6 BB/K in his past 10 games, "up" to 20 BB's on the year
He's learning, like all young players do. I'm sure that there will be periods where he "backslides," but on the whole, he's improving as a hitter rapidly.
NY_GOLDENARMS
08-07-09, 11:27 AM
Hard to believe he was an OF at Clemson a couple years ago.
This is why I love his upside so much, he's only scratching the surface plus since when have you seen a sinkerballer with the type of K/IP he has plus he just learned to throw a proper curveball since turning pro. A lot to like here.
bmxstreetrider86
08-07-09, 06:10 PM
KDL 2-5 with a 2B and a K
philleotardo
08-07-09, 07:47 PM
This is not a mistype:
Ryan Pope
7 IP, 1 H, 0 ER, 0 BB, 10 K.
This is not a mistype either:
Shane Greene
2.1 IP, 9 H, 10 ER, 1 BB, 2 K
what's up doc?
08-07-09, 08:28 PM
lol. Nope, not "innaccurate" at all actually. :lol:
Metroidman said he topped out at 94 before joining the Yankees. He topped out at 98 and touched 97 in many, many starts in college. Hm.. topping out at 94 and topping out at 98? Yes, my criticism of that opinion was generally, specifically and indifferently accurate.
Never said the Yankees didn't help gain a couple ticks out of Joba's FB [you again miss the point], but I did specify it was not nearly as dramatic an increase as Metroid intimated [4+ mph]. Instead of sitting 92-95 or 96 and maxing out at 97-98 he became a guy who was consistently 94-97 and hitting 99 by the time he was in Trenton when I saw him.
But nice try, anyway.
Actually, factually it was innaccurate and inarticulate.
what's up doc?
08-07-09, 08:30 PM
You guys shouldn't argue...you have the same avatar. Can't we all just get along?
Yeah, that avatar is really weighing you down.
Melan-cynic
08-08-09, 12:38 AM
What exactly is innaccurate? Is that like "innept" or "inncapable" of making a cogent argument? Get back to me with something to prove innaccuracy, whatever that is.
b_joseph
08-08-09, 11:58 AM
KDL - 2-4 with 2 HR's
bmxstreetrider86
08-08-09, 12:29 PM
KDL is awesome
scooterfan
08-08-09, 12:39 PM
This is not a mistype:
Ryan Pope
7 IP, 1 H, 0 ER, 0 BB, 10 K.
Mike Ashmore has more on this story:
http://thunderbaseball.wordpress.com/2009/08/08/game-111-post-game-notes-montero-update/
Looks like Pope had some of the same problems Joba did with pacing. Trenton pitching coach Tommy Phelps worked with Pope on speeding up, and it paid off in a big way.
lemonjello
08-08-09, 03:35 PM
KDL - 2-4 with 2 HR's
Big whoop, but how many strikeouts did he have ;)
bmxstreetrider86
08-08-09, 05:03 PM
KDL is now tied for the league lead with a whopping 6 HR's in the GCL. should help illustrate what a tough offensive environment it is. also, there are currently 18 people with an OPS over 900 in the AZL, there are 4 in the GCL
The Dream
08-08-09, 06:56 PM
Viz leaves game aftr 0.2 IP with injured back. Nice :/
b_joseph
08-08-09, 06:56 PM
Big whoop, but how many strikeouts did he have ;)At the time, zero.
Zach being Zach. 4 innings, 3 hits, 1 run, 0 walks, 2 K's. 8 GO to 2 FO.
bmxstreetrider86
08-08-09, 08:51 PM
Damn we are having crap luck with injuries, at least it's only his back (for now)
Melan-cynic
08-08-09, 08:56 PM
Viz leaves game aftr 0.2 IP with injured back. Nice :/
Hoping that's just some spasms and nothing more.
Philip Hughes Fan
08-08-09, 09:00 PM
KDL is now tied for the league lead with a whopping 6 HR's in the GCL. should help illustrate what a tough offensive environment it is. also, there are currently 18 people with an OPS over 900 in the AZL, there are 4 in the GCL
154 OPS+
Hopefully he cuts down to the K's as he gets used to better competition, but at his age with his tools he's pretty exciting guy to follow.
bmxstreetrider86
08-08-09, 09:15 PM
Yea, the k's are an issue, but at 18 he has certainly impressed. It will be interesting to see the scouting reports but I imagine they are quite good. Off the top of my head I think he has to be in the top 2-3 prospects in the league.
Philip Hughes Fan
08-08-09, 09:18 PM
Jackson went 3-5 with a 3B and no K's today, but ended up getting CS and PKO. Odd game for him, he's been so good on the bases this year.
Anyone have a scouting report on Dan Brewer? He's having a great season.
Nettles9
08-08-09, 09:41 PM
Dan Brewer has been quietly putting together a nice year between Charleston and Tampa. .321/.408/.459
jerez23
08-08-09, 09:54 PM
Dan Brewer has been quietly putting together a nice year between Charleston and Tampa. .321/.408/.459
I have seen him compared to Colin Curtis with a chance to be better. Not much better, but better.
Nettles9
08-08-09, 10:02 PM
I have seen him compared to Colin Curtis with a chance to be better. Not much better, but better.
I haven't seen that comparison, but I guess it sounds about right. I've read that he doesn't have the speed for CF or the power for an OF corner position. More of less a 4th OFer.
Yankyfan
08-09-09, 02:51 PM
Went to Oneonta to see the SI Yanks yesterday.It was our 4th try believe it or not.The last 3 times weve tried to see a game in the old Yankees Penn league town we had been rained out. Well the game started out with Arodis going down with a muscle pull with 2 outs in the first but the pen pulled up the slack picking up a shut out.. For those looking for a fun week end trip Damaschke field is different to say the least. Ive played at legion fields that were bigger. With that said you can't beat the cozyness of the place. You sit right on top of the field ,like a little league game. The players are right there and they sure can hear you and vice versa.My son walked up to the chain link fence and asked Medchill if he could get his broken bat after the game . Neil remembered him and after the last out came into the dug out and handed him the bat. ( Medchill has a fan for life )If you have a week end to spare its worth the trip if your a hard core baseball fan.OH yea we won 3-0:P
NY_GOLDENARMS
08-09-09, 02:51 PM
Yeah, I get Chad Curtis impressions when I think about Brewer.
GrouchoNYY
08-09-09, 03:15 PM
Went to Oneonta to see the SI Yanks yesterday.It was our 4th try believe it or not.The last 3 times weve tried to see a game in the old Yankees Penn league town we had been rained out. Well the game started out with Arodis going down with a muscle pull with 2 outs in the first but the pen pulled up the slack picking up a shut out.. For those looking for a fun week end trip Damaschke field is different to say the least. Ive played at legion fields that were bigger. With that said you can't beat the cozyness of the place. You sit right on top of the field ,like a little league game. The players are right there and they sure can hear you and vice versa.My son walked up to the chain link fence and asked Medchill if he could get his broken bat after the game . Neil remembered him and after the last out came into the dug out and handed him the bat. ( Medchill has a fan for life )If you have a week end to spare its worth the trip if your a hard core baseball fan.OH yea we won 3-0:P
We saw a game there when it was a Yankee team. It is an unusual setting. The field is inside a bigger park. Its a throwback. Sitting on the first base side, you look over the left field wall and into a farm setting. Also on first base is the Billy Martin Memorial Box.
Yankyfan
08-09-09, 03:53 PM
We saw a game there when it was a Yankee team. It is an unusual setting. The field is inside a bigger park. Its a throwback. Sitting on the first base side, you look over the left field wall and into a farm setting. Also on first base is the Billy Martin Memorial Box.Throwback is the perfect world to describe it.
Yankees47
08-09-09, 04:53 PM
Will Wilkins De La Rossa be promoted in September because he is on the 40 man already and has been pitching well in AA??
jerez23
08-09-09, 06:30 PM
Will Wilkins De La Rossa be promoted in September because he is on the 40 man already and has been pitching well in AA??
Would like to see him in AAA first. He seems to give up the long ball a bit too much for my taste.
yanke1313
08-09-09, 06:37 PM
Laird with his 9th homer of the year.
yankstaketitle
08-09-09, 07:35 PM
Laird with his 9th homer of the year.
it seems like he hasnt hit one in a while. maybe he'll go on a homer tear.
The Dream
08-09-09, 08:55 PM
Ajax 2-5 2rbi
Ajax 2-5 2rbi
And 2 SO.
I would hope they put him on the 40 this fall and bring him up for a few games. The guy is an enigma. They need to get a close up look at him against ML competition. Well, realistically it won't happen, they can do that next spring I guess.
And 2 SO.
I would hope they put him on the 40 this fall and bring him up for a few games. The guy is an enigma. They need to get a close up look at him against ML competition. Well, realistically it won't happen, they can do that next spring I guess.
He's had a good season, but there are things he needs to work on. He'll probably play in the AFL and repeat AAA.
Donnybaseball72
08-10-09, 09:30 AM
If there is one player not on the 40 man roster who deserves a September callup it's Kevin Russo. He will have to be added before the Rule 5 draft and could be usefull off the bench. There will be no need to add Ransom back.
Brewer's a better OBP guy than I thought he'd be when we took him. They really emphasize it and he's really metabolizing it.
Tom Finnigan
08-10-09, 03:40 PM
Brewer's a better OBP guy than I thought he'd be when we took him. They really emphasize it and he's really metabolizing it.
I have followed him all year - Is it a concidence that Tampa's rise in the second half coincides with his promotion, and Charleston's demise in the second half coincides with his promotion to Tampa? The Curtis comparison puzzles me. Brewer is a leadoff hitter, Curtis is not. Given another year of seasoning should tell us a lot if he is a true sleeper. I think he is a player that makes the guys around him look better.
primetime714
08-10-09, 04:35 PM
Will Wilkins De La Rossa be promoted in September because he is on the 40 man already and has been pitching well in AA??
He likely will be up. They usually bring up everyone on the 40-man roster. Will he pitch? I would think so, but it may only be garbage time here or there.
SLURPEE
08-10-09, 07:07 PM
Why is Cervelli on the DL?
Donnybaseball72
08-10-09, 07:56 PM
He likely will be up. They usually bring up everyone on the 40-man roster. Will he pitch? I would think so, but it may only be garbage time here or there.
That is not so true. They usually only bring up the AAA guys they plan on using. I would say no more than 5-6 guys will be on the expanded roster. None of the AA guys or below will be called up. They don't want a crowded bench when they are fight for the playoffs. A perfect example was not calling up Wang in Sept 04.
Teams that are way out of contention are the ones that call up everyone on their 40 man roster and treat it like early spring training. They are also more likely to release veterens (see Giambi & the A's) to make room for younger players.
primetime714
08-10-09, 08:11 PM
That is not so true. They usually only bring up the AAA guys they plan on using. I would say no more than 5-6 guys will be on the expanded roster. None of the AA guys or below will be called up. They don't want a crowded bench when they are fight for the playoffs. A perfect example was not calling up Wang in Sept 04.
Teams that are way out of contention are the ones that call up everyone on their 40 man roster and treat it like early spring training. They are also more likely to release veterens (see Giambi & the A's) to make room for younger players.
He probably won't be up before the end of the minor league season, but after that almost definitely. I mean after that there is no reason to send him home unless he isn't healthy or has pitched too much.
If for no other reason the Yankees will call him up to give him the experience of being with the major league squad. In the past they have even done that with guys that aren't on the 40-man roster.
Its possible that he won't pitch at the ML level because the team isn't going to be looking to get him in a game, but if an opportunity presents itself he might pitch in a game or two. Probably not much more though. Although stuff wise as a reliever he could probably contribute at the ML level now. As a starter, he's not ready but he wouldn't be starting any games anyway.
Donnybaseball72
08-10-09, 09:22 PM
If for no other reason the Yankees will call him up to give him the experience of being with the major league squad. In the past they have even done that with guys that aren't on the 40-man roster.
So you are saying the Yankees view De La Rossa like they did to Jeter and Hughes as prospects and will let him sit on the bench with the big boys? I don't see it, sorry. The only player who may get this treatment is Montero.
rpimpsner
08-11-09, 09:07 AM
Today is the early morning camp day in Staten Island. Matt Richardson will faceoff against the Doubledays.
Posada_20
08-11-09, 09:13 AM
RP:
How serious is Arodys's back injury? Will he be able to make his next start?
Brewer's a better OBP guy than I thought he'd be when we took him. They really emphasize it and he's really metabolizing it.
Brewer is a bit like Gardner, with less speed (like everyone else!!) and a bit more pop. Not sure about his fielding though.
rpimpsner
08-11-09, 11:16 AM
I will find out after the game when I talk to the pitching coach. Nothing like an early morning game after a long night huh.
BennyTheJetRodriguez
08-11-09, 11:45 AM
So you are saying the Yankees view De La Rossa like they did to Jeter and Hughes as prospects and will let him sit on the bench with the big boys? I don't see it, sorry. The only player who may get this treatment is Montero.Tyler Clippard also did this and only three or four people in the world thought he would ever amount to anything. De La Rosa at least throws hard and can potentially get a lefty out in an extra inning game.
b_joseph
08-11-09, 01:16 PM
KDL - 2 for 3 with 2B so far.
rpimpsner
08-11-09, 01:21 PM
RBI single by DeAngelo Mack in the bottom of the 10th wins the game.
bmxstreetrider86
08-11-09, 04:53 PM
KDL finished 3-5 with a 2B and a K.
rpimpsner
08-11-09, 05:21 PM
I talked with Josh Paul, DeAngelo Mack and Neil Medchill after the game.
Vendetta
08-11-09, 06:54 PM
I talked with Josh Paul, DeAngelo Mack and Neil Medchill after the game.
Did you guys exchange friendship rings?
:P
rpimpsner
08-11-09, 07:39 PM
I am working on the article for today's game, but is mostly going to be a feature on Mack. Nothing really big just what I can get quickly aftter the game.
GrouchoNYY
08-11-09, 08:35 PM
What happened to Mack on the first inning line drive he misplayed?
rpimpsner
08-11-09, 09:00 PM
I wasn't really paying attention to the outfielders at that time. While taking photos you are more concentrating on who your shooting at that point (over 50 photos of Richardson today alone).
With the Gotham Baseball website out of commission until September I am focusing more on writing some features. They will be short features nothing really big.
Jairo Heredia
6IP 3H 1R 1ER 1BB 4SO
yanke1313
08-11-09, 11:07 PM
Melky Mesa is really struggling 0-4 2k.
jerez23
08-11-09, 11:37 PM
Melky Mesa is really struggling 0-4 2k.
Mesa strikes out way too much. Unless he improves on that, which is doubtful because of his age, he will flame out in Tampa. I see him putting up only slightly better numbers than Tim Battle did there. Mesa has improved his prospect status this year but he needs to make even more improvements if he expects to keep rising. Anyone know how defense plays?
rpimpsner
08-12-09, 12:19 PM
Angelini with an absolute bomb to left field for a 3-run homer.
rpimpsner
08-12-09, 12:32 PM
Six SI Yankees named to the All-Star Team. Paredes, Mack, Almonte, Medchill, Rondon and Warren.
yanke1313
08-12-09, 12:51 PM
Angelini with an absolute bomb to left field for a 3-run homer.
Good to see. I'm not ready to write him off just yet.
CallOfTheCrow
08-12-09, 12:52 PM
Mack having a nice game.
DWells4prez
08-12-09, 01:11 PM
Mack having a nice game.
Love the avatar and quote above it, great movie.
Philip Hughes Fan
08-12-09, 03:33 PM
DeLeon: 3-4, 2B, and a BB, no K's!
rpimpsner
08-12-09, 03:54 PM
Francisco Santana has been promoted from Staten Island to Trenton. If traffic isnt bad he should be there by 6.
rpimpsner
08-12-09, 03:57 PM
Outfielder Francisco Santana has been promoted from SS-A Staten Island to Double-A Trenton after today's game.
Don_Veto
08-12-09, 04:25 PM
That's a hell of a jump, isn't it?
rpimpsner
08-12-09, 04:27 PM
That's a hell of a jump, isn't it?
You can say that especially for Santana who last year was in the DSL. Its not the first time but for someone that hasnt played above this level it is a hell of a jump. Ryan Baker went to Trenton but he has experience at higher levels, Walter Ibarra did it last year but he also played at higher levels before being with SI.
bmxstreetrider86
08-12-09, 05:24 PM
KDL with another big game 3-4 2B BB
indianyanksfan
08-12-09, 06:05 PM
how has angelini looked since his demotion? if he keeps up his good goings, he could go back into prospect status very quickly
cuse621
08-12-09, 06:41 PM
Z. Almonte has been somewhat impressive this year. Why no love from the people here?
Donnybaseball72
08-12-09, 07:36 PM
You can say that especially for Santana who last year was in the DSL. Its not the first time but for someone that hasnt played above this level it is a hell of a jump. Ryan Baker went to Trenton but he has experience at higher levels, Walter Ibarra did it last year but he also played at higher levels before being with SI.
This has to be a misprint or they need an emergancy outfielder in Trenton. Guys with a .590 ops don't just jump 3 levels of the minors. :dunno:
rpimpsner
08-12-09, 07:52 PM
This has to be a misprint or they need an emergancy outfielder in Trenton. Guys with a .590 ops don't just jump 3 levels of the minors. :dunno:
Its not a misprint. They needed another outfielder and SI had many of them to spare.
Santana appears to be an org. guy.
yanke1313
08-12-09, 08:40 PM
Brackman- 2 ip 1 h 1 er 4 bb 5 k
The Dream
08-12-09, 08:53 PM
Brackman- 2 ip 1 h 1 er 4 bb 5 k
smh..
Brackman- 2 ip 1 h 1 er 4 bb 5 k
And how many wild pitches???
JavyVazquezIsSick
08-13-09, 08:21 AM
4BBs in 2 innings. Jesus. He's been an absolute disaster.
primetime714
08-13-09, 08:31 AM
I'm happy to see the strikeouts. The control is not coming this year we're just going to have to hope that in the offseason he can start to work out some of those kinks. However he is now showing the ability to dominate hitters with overpowering stuff. That is the reason we drafted this guy and were willing to give him a major league deal.
If we see this type of control next year then I'll start to get worried.
YESSIR!
08-13-09, 09:27 AM
Adam Warren had another good game yesterday:
5 IP | 5 H | 1 R/ER | 3 BB | 5 SO | 12-5 GO/AO
The 3 walks matches his total for the entire year in SI so far, bringing him to 6 BB in 42.2 IP (1.25 BB/9). He's still only given up 3 XBH's in those 42+ innings.
JavyVazquezIsSick
08-13-09, 09:53 AM
That's what polished college pitchers should do. Then as they move up, they struggle.
If they get past that, then they get blasted in the majors.
That's what polished college pitchers should do. Then as they move up, they struggle.
If they get past that, then they get blasted in the majors.
I will take a wait and see attitude toward him. There is nothing so far in his performance that indicates he will be a failure down the road.
bmxstreetrider86
08-13-09, 11:28 AM
That's what polished college pitchers should do. Then as they move up, they struggle.
If they get past that, then they get blasted in the majors.
so bitter.....
JavyVazquezIsSick
08-13-09, 11:30 AM
Wasted picks will do that.
paully-o
08-13-09, 11:30 AM
That's what polished college pitchers should do. Then as they move up, they struggle.
If they get past that, then they get blasted in the majors.
Dude, do you have kids?
I hope you have written them off as total losers already.
CallOfTheCrow
08-13-09, 11:31 AM
Dude, do you have kids?
I hope you have written them off as total losers already.
That's taking this way too far.
bmxstreetrider86
08-13-09, 11:31 AM
he is such a waste, hard throwing pitchers dominating their league make me sick
JavyVazquezIsSick
08-13-09, 11:42 AM
Hard throwing? Riiiight.
bmxstreetrider86
08-13-09, 11:43 AM
Hard throwing? Riiiight.
knew that was coming......
JavyVazquezIsSick
08-13-09, 11:44 AM
I would think you would considering it's not true.
bmxstreetrider86
08-13-09, 11:45 AM
you just have a high standard for calling someone hard throwing i suppose
JavyVazquezIsSick
08-13-09, 11:46 AM
What would your standard be?
CallOfTheCrow
08-13-09, 11:46 AM
Just read the PP post interview & Warren himself said he's 90-94. That's all I have to go by 'cause I don't know anything about him outside of that interview.
Not that I'm saying there isn't, but is there a report somewhere saying otherwise?
bmxstreetrider86
08-13-09, 11:48 AM
Just read the PP post interview & Warren himself said he's 90-94.
Not that I'm saying there isn't, but is there a report somewhere saying otherwise?
javy saw him pitch on 3 days rest in the CWS and has determined that Warren, Damon Oppenheimer, Yankee scouts and coaches, and Robert are all lying in one massive conspiracy to try and make him look silly
bmxstreetrider86
08-13-09, 11:50 AM
What would your standard be?
id consider someone who is consistenly in the low 90's touching 95-96 to be a hard thrower.
CallOfTheCrow
08-13-09, 11:51 AM
For the most part, I believe Oppenheimer when he's talking about a prospect. But he really turned me off with Bleich.
Post draft, he made him sound like the next Cole Hamels.
JavyVazquezIsSick
08-13-09, 11:55 AM
javy saw him pitch on 3 days rest in the CWS and has determined that Warren, Damon Oppenheimer, Yankee scouts and coaches, and Robert are all lying in one massive conspiracy to try and make him look silly
Or they could just be hyping up their prospects. I mean wow! That's never happened before in the history of the Yankees.
Warren figures to go in a single-digit round after improving the velocity on his four-seam fastball and honing his command. He was hitting 94 mph late in the season and sitting 88-92.
http://blogs.nypost.com/sports/minor_leagues/archives/2009/06/some_info_on_ad.html
That's where I saw him 88-92 in that game. Now all of a sudden he's sitting 90-94, give me a break.
YESSIR!
08-13-09, 11:57 AM
That's what polished college pitchers should do. Then as they move up, they struggle.
If they get past that, then they get blasted in the majors.
True to an extent, but I think there are encouraging signs that belie your pessimism. He's totally dominating in his first stint in short season ball. His control has been impeccable while at the same time he's avoiding hard contact; greats signs that should translate well. Anyway, I'd rather be optimistic about success and hope he carries it forward.
bmxstreetrider86
08-13-09, 12:00 PM
Or they could just be hyping up their prospects. I mean wow! That's never happened before in the history of the Yankees.
http://blogs.nypost.com/sports/minor_leagues/archives/2009/06/some_info_on_ad.html
That's where I saw him 88-92 in that game. Now all of a sudden he's sitting 90-94, give me a break.
thats the same blog that just ranked bleich and dunn in our top 10, need i say more?
we have seen from just about every real source since the draft he was 90-94, and Robert said the coaching staff had him hitting 96 in his last start. and even if you are right, we again have had Robert come in and show he has been throwing 90-94 in his SI starts
JavyVazquezIsSick
08-13-09, 12:03 PM
thats the same blog that just ranked bleich and dunn in our top 10, need i say more?
we have seen from just about every real source since the draft he was 90-94, and Robert said the coaching staff had him hitting 96 in his last start
Yes, rankings are a crapstorm. They can still get where his velocity sits accurately. There have been other sources that have reported the same thing. He's high 80s-low90s.
Real source? As in the Yankees and PP? Hitting 96 now. Wow.
This site has his velocity as
His fastball velocity is solid-average at 86-91 mph.
mlbdraftsource.wordpress.com
Where did BA have him?
bmxstreetrider86
08-13-09, 12:07 PM
Yes, rankings are a crapstorm. They can still get where his velocity sits accurately. There have been other sources that have reported the same thing. He's high 80s-low90s.
Real source? As in the Yankees and PP? Hitting 96 now. Wow.
who said anything about PP? Lane Meyer, Robert (from babybombers, not PP) and Adam himself all said the same thing, damon said after the draft he was 90-94 late in the season as he got better.
you can find ANY source you want for the draft, any dinky blog and it doesnt matter. he hit 96 his previous start, maybe the yankees are better at projecting improvement that the guys at mlbdraftsource
JavyVazquezIsSick
08-13-09, 12:11 PM
Soo Laner Meyer, a yankees blog, and the pitcher himself? Na, none of those people are bias.
Or maybe he's what he always has been low 80s-90s, the guy I saw on TV.
But no, it's the lack of rest and the sun not aligning in the right way. When he has everything going he's mid 90s touching 96.
Again, where did BA have him?
bmxstreetrider86
08-13-09, 12:17 PM
Soo Laner Meyer, a yankees blog, and the pitcher himself? Na, none of those people are bias.
Or maybe he's what he always has been low 80s-90s, the guy I saw on TV.
But no, it's the lack of rest and the sun not aligning in the right way. When he has everything going he's mid 90s touching 96.
Again, where did BA have him?
they all go their velo readings from the people charting in the stands, its the same place BA gets their numbers for. thats how Adam knew where he was throwing, thats how he told Lane and thats what Robert was reporting
and who said mid 90's? robert said he was sitting around 92 and touched 96
JavyVazquezIsSick
08-13-09, 12:20 PM
they all go their velo readings from the people charting in the stands, its the same place BA gets their numbers for
and who said mid 90's? robert said he was sitting around 92 and touched 96
That's what BA reported during the draft?
Sounds like Robert either had or asked someone with a bad gun.
90-94 is too big of a range. I guess technically now he's 90-96.
bmxstreetrider86
08-13-09, 12:27 PM
That's what BA reported during the draft?
so how hard he threw from whenever BA got his scouting report is more important than how hard he threw 2 starts ago
Sounds like Robert either had or asked someone with a bad gun.
Robert asked the coaching staff, which is precisely where BA gets most of their info from. every team has people (usually other starting pitchers) who sit in the stands and chart pitch types and velocities on a start to start basis. thats how they know he hit 96
JavyVazquezIsSick
08-13-09, 12:30 PM
so how hard he threw from whenever BA got his scouting report is more important than how hard he threw 2 starts ago
Robert asked the coaching staff, which is precisely where BA gets most of their info from. every team has people (usually other starting pitchers) who sit in the stands and chart pitch types and velocities on a start to start basis. thats how they know he hit 96
Why do you keep avoiding where BA had him? Of course it's more important when every other source never had him hitting 96 and sitting high 80s-low 90s.
BA also has there own scouts. Robert doesn't. Again, there is a conflict of interest asking the scouting reports of the coaching staff as opposed to an independent source.
So he's 90-96 now? That's Warren's current range with his fastball?
CallOfTheCrow
08-13-09, 12:30 PM
Why is 90-94 too big of a range but 88-92 isn't?
JavyVazquezIsSick
08-13-09, 12:32 PM
Why is 90-94 too big of a range but 88-92 isn't?
Cause bmx stated he's a hard thrower.
If he's sitting 92-94 touching 95, 96, I'd agree.
If he's sitting 90-92 touching 93-94, I disagree.
88-92 isn't a hard thrower no matter what part of the spectrum he is.
AcidLake
08-13-09, 12:35 PM
why don't we wait until he goes to winter league or soemthing since that's when we heard joba was sitting at mid-90's
lemonjello
08-13-09, 12:42 PM
I will take a wait and see attitude toward him. There is nothing so far in his performance that indicates he will be a failure down the road.
Are you kidding? The fact that he was a senior sign means that he will be a failure down the road.
/sarcasm
bmxstreetrider86
08-13-09, 01:01 PM
Why do you keep avoiding where BA had him? Of course it's more important when every other source never had him hitting 96 and sitting high 80s-low 90s.
BA also has there own scouts. Robert doesn't. Again, there is a conflict of interest asking the scouting reports of the coaching staff as opposed to an independent source.
So he's 90-96 now? That's Warren's current range with his fastball?
When did BA get scouts? They do the same thing Robert does, only for all teams not just SI.
And I guess the coaching staff lied to Robert to bump up warrens value, and lied to Adam to make him feel better. Much better theory then him just getting better.
JavyVazquezIsSick
08-13-09, 01:31 PM
When did BA get scouts? They do the same thing Robert does, only for all teams not just SI.
And I guess the coaching staff lied to Robert to bump up warrens value, and lied to Adam to make him feel better. Much better theory then him just getting better.
Right, so none of their writers go to games with radar guns.
Let's just get this straight, do you think he sits 90-92 or 92-94?
CallOfTheCrow
08-13-09, 01:34 PM
Austin Jackson is 1-2
Russo 0-1, 2BB (He's having a very nice year at Scranton. Could be a decent utility guy. Anyone know about his defense?)
bmxstreetrider86
08-13-09, 01:47 PM
Right, so none of their writers go to games with radar guns.
Let's just get this straight, do you think he sits 90-92 or 92-94?
Going to a game with a radar gun doesn't mean BA has scouts. Further more there's nothing to say the even went to a game and "scouted" Warren
What I think is pretty simple, I think he is 90-94 and can touch 95-96. To mea that's a pretty hard thrower
CallOfTheCrow
08-13-09, 01:48 PM
Melancon 1.2IP 2Ks
metalboy15
08-13-09, 01:49 PM
Austin Jackson is 1-2
Russo 0-1, 2BB (He's having a very nice year at Scranton. Could be a decent utility guy. Anyone know about his defense?)
According to TotalZone:
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/1418/34023034.jpg
JavyVazquezIsSick
08-13-09, 01:52 PM
Going to a game with a radar gun doesn't mean BA has scouts. Further more there's nothing to say the even went to a game and "scouted" Warren
What I think is pretty simple, I think he is 90-94 and can touch 95-96. To mea that's a pretty hard thrower
So you think his fastball regularly moves up and down 4 MPH? Who is he Joba Chamberlain?
CallOfTheCrow
08-13-09, 01:53 PM
Austin walks in his 3rd AB.
bmxstreetrider86
08-13-09, 01:57 PM
So you think his fastball regularly moves up and down 4 MPH? Who is he Joba Chamberlain?
i think he averages ~92, which is basically the center of 90-94
JavyVazquezIsSick
08-13-09, 02:04 PM
i think he averages ~92, which is basically the center of 90-94
If he's touching 95-96, then it would be even higher.
bmxstreetrider86
08-13-09, 02:16 PM
If he's touching 95-96, then it would be even higher.
im obviously not talking mathematical direct average, like adding up all the pitches and dividing and whatnot. im simplly saying most, if not all, of his fastballs are 90-94, probably mostly 92. this isnt brooks baseball where we can get average velocity down to 2 decimal places, hence the around (~) 92
CallOfTheCrow
08-13-09, 02:16 PM
Melancon 2.2IP 1H 3Ks
JavyVazquezIsSick
08-13-09, 02:17 PM
Melancon 2.2IP 1H 3Ks
0ER??
CallOfTheCrow
08-13-09, 02:17 PM
Rom Sanchez gave up all the runs.
JavyVazquezIsSick
08-13-09, 03:15 PM
im obviously not talking mathematical direct average, like adding up all the pitches and dividing and whatnot. im simplly saying most, if not all, of his fastballs are 90-94, probably mostly 92. this isnt brooks baseball where we can get average velocity down to 2 decimal places, hence the around (~) 92
So if he was in the majors, he'd be in the top 30 of hardest throwing SP in the game.
I can't believe this guy fell all the way to us.
MTYankee23
08-13-09, 03:21 PM
Clearly he's 89-93 and touches 94.5.
bmxstreetrider86
08-13-09, 03:28 PM
So if he was in the majors, he'd be in the top 30 of hardest throwing SP in the game.
I can't believe this guy fell all the way to us.
assuming he makes it to the majors and remains a starter, sure. but there are what, hundreds of guys who throw just as hard if not harder who get drafted lower or are currently in the minors.
More Velogate. How uhhhhhhh intersti-- must nap.
rpimpsner
08-13-09, 05:11 PM
That's what BA reported during the draft?
Sounds like Robert either had or asked someone with a bad gun.
90-94 is too big of a range. I guess technically now he's 90-96.
I am clearing everything up right now, there has never been anyone here from Baseball America, as for the readings I think the same readings on 3 seperate guns from 3 seperate sources is accurate.
JavyVazquezIsSick
08-13-09, 05:17 PM
I am clearing everything up right now, there has never been anyone here from Baseball America, as for the readings I think the same readings on 3 seperate guns from 3 seperate sources is accurate.
So he's now throwing 4-6 MPH higher than where he was in college?
geodork
08-13-09, 05:27 PM
So he's now throwing 4-6 MPH higher than where he was in college?
So now, the actual guy at the game, who reports on the team, who has checked on three separate guns, isn't good enough for you? Who are you ... Klaw?
Who cares how hard he throws, or how high anyone freakin' jumps (not your arguement I know), or any of that kind of crap. Really ... who cares. Look at the results, and enjoy the prospects trip through the minors. Or don't, I don't care. But enough with the endless pessimism. He is a Yankee, so let's see how he does. Either root for him to do well, or wallow in your negativity. But let's try to focus on the results, not the radar readings.
flymick24
08-13-09, 05:45 PM
since when was throwing 90-94 considered a hard-thrower?
i guess sergio mitre is a hard thower now too
rpimpsner
08-13-09, 05:48 PM
So he's now throwing 4-6 MPH higher than where he was in college?
I have seen the guns for myself as the game went on from scouts and the teams themselves. I believe something I see with my own eyes but that is just me. I have spent the past 8 years building a relationships with scouts, coaches and organizations that I trust. My job is to report the facts, and I do report the facts with no bias.
rpimpsner
08-13-09, 06:23 PM
Neil Medchill just tied the SI Yankee record for HR in a single season.
The Dream
08-13-09, 06:30 PM
Neil Medchill is the sh*it
3 run jack. I'm loving that SI team this year. Mack, Medchill, Hig, Viz, Warren. Got some bright spots over there.
Donnybaseball72
08-13-09, 07:32 PM
Neil Medchill just tied the SI Yankee record for HR in a single season.
Let me guess: Mitch Jones?
rpimpsner
08-13-09, 07:36 PM
Let me guess: Mitch Jones?
Awesome guess, if I had a prize to give away you would have won it.
Sean Black 77-pitches in 6 innings topped out at 93 on the gun (from two seperate guns) was between 87-91 most of the time.
b_joseph
08-13-09, 08:15 PM
Zach being Zach again...5 shut out innings.
YESSIR!
08-13-09, 08:32 PM
since when was throwing 90-94 considered a hard-thrower?
i guess sergio mitre is a hard thower now too
You're basically defending what any random person could define as "a hard thrower." It's just silly. I played college ball for two years (not a pitcher), and the highest velocity I could generate on a pitch in the strike zone was 84mph. Guys who were pitching for us at 90 were "hard throwers" in my book. It's all very subjective, and not worth arguing.
Even if Warren is topping out at 92 with late, sharp movement down in the zone, that is hard. Hard to friggin hit.
rpimpsner
08-13-09, 10:03 PM
Sean Black's quote of the day, "It was awesome"
Metroidman
08-14-09, 02:30 AM
Can anyone name me starters that sit higher than 90-94? I have like 5 and that's it. Lots of soft tossers in the majors like that scrub Roy Halladay
flymick24
08-14-09, 02:52 AM
i wouldnt' consider roy halladay a hard thrower.. his combination of control and movement along with decent velocity (avg FB is 92.9, according to fangraphs) is what makes him an ace
justin verlander is a hard thrower... ubaldo jimenez is a hard thrower.... daniel bard is a hard thrower... joba used to be a hard thrower
Metroidman
08-14-09, 03:25 AM
Bard is a RP
Verlander/Jimenez/Joba/Lincecum/Josh Johnson are the only hard throwers I can think of if you are talking about sitting over 94 per game
NYNJYank
08-14-09, 05:51 AM
I have seen the guns for myself as the game went on from scouts and the teams themselves. I believe something I see with my own eyes but that is just me. I have spent the past 8 years building a relationships with scouts, coaches and organizations that I trust. My job is to report the facts, and I do report the facts with no bias.
JavyVasquez says you need glasses and you shouldnt always trust what you see with your own eyes.
rpimpsner
08-14-09, 10:19 AM
I have alot of work to do today. I will be completely revamping my person website and will be posting the game stories on there everyday again. Gotham Baseball is still down and will continue to be until after the season.
I linked my two articles below -
Medchill Breaks Slump with Record Tying Homerun, http://u.nu/4zvu2 (http://twitter.com/RPimpsner/status/3308981527)
Yankees Prospect Black Throws Six Hitless Innings, http://u.nu/2zvu
I am also going to put up an article I wrote last week on Mack that never got posted and my ASG article.
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I am waiting to hear back from the State College Spikes on my Press Credential for the All-Star Game.
CallOfTheCrow
08-14-09, 10:40 AM
De Leon 1-1, 2B
Sosa 1-1, BB
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