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You know how they say "good pitching always beats good hitting?" Yeah, well, this was a case of the opposite. That was an incredible piece of work by Ichiro.
yankeebot
09-20-09, 09:31 AM
I just saw the Ichiro HR...looks like the pitch was off the plate and he was able to bail and get good wood on it. Didn't look like a bad pitch. http://brooksbaseball.net/pfx/location.php?xml=http://gd2.mlb.com/components/game/mlb/year_2009/month_09/day_18/gid_2009_09_18_nyamlb_seamlb_1//pbp/pitchers/121250.xml&batterX=090918_214226&innings=yyyyyyyyy&sp_type=1&s_type=3
just out of interest, what is mo's ERA against the angels?
I could care less about a BS, I just want to see Mo's vintage stuff
jesterno2
09-23-09, 12:47 AM
every time he walks someone i wonder if he was squeezed by the ump. two of those balls looked like strikes on gamecast.
jimmykey2
09-23-09, 12:49 AM
I never should've doubted you, Oh Great One.
Please accept my sincerest apologies.
sweet_lou_14
09-23-09, 12:49 AM
every time he walks someone i wonder if he was squeezed by the ump. two of those balls looked like strikes on gamecast.
He was squeezed, no question. Ball four was really strike three.
Although with C.B. Bucknor is "squeezed" the right word? Bucknor might as well be flipping a coin out there.
dabomb2045
09-23-09, 12:52 AM
Frank Drebin had a better K zone then Bucknor
jesterno2
09-23-09, 12:55 AM
Frank Drebin had a better K zone then Bucknor
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
:clap:
that was one of the funniest posts ive ever read on this site.
yankeebot
09-23-09, 07:15 AM
just out of interest, what is mo's ERA against the angels?
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?n1=riverma01&year=Career&t=p#oppon_extra
teknetic
09-23-09, 08:48 AM
Ball 4 to Morales looked pretty close to a strike, but I was surprised by how much it apparently missed the plate.
http://www.brooksbaseball.net/pfx/numlocation.php?xml=http://gd2.mlb.com/components/game/mlb/year_2009/month_09/day_22/gid_2009_09_22_nyamlb_anamlb_1//pbp/pitchers/121250.xml&batterX=090922_223514&innings=yyyyyyyyy&s_type=3&sp_type=1&h_size=700&v_size=500
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?n1=riverma01&year=Career&t=p#oppon_extra
i think all that told me his ERA against the angels is in the mid 3s.
Yet another "boring" save today! ;)
flymick24
09-26-09, 10:57 PM
his comman was definitely off, but he got by with the help of some wild swings
his comman was definitely off, but he got by with the help of some wild swings
did he top 90mph? not that it matters because the movment on his cutter was sick.
Finish it up and lets get out the bubbly
the red sox are the only team that i worry about when mo is pitching. he usually does his thing but of all teams, they appear to have had the most success against him; and i'm not just thinking of 2004.
GordonGecko
09-28-09, 12:04 PM
44 saves, 1.82 ERA 0.92 WHIP - extraordinary year no matter how you slice it
44 saves, 1.82 ERA 0.92 WHIP - extraordinary year no matter how you slice it
his 162 game a year average is 39 saves, 2.26 ERA, 1.014 WHIP; so he beats each one. the guy is freaking awesome.
roblyo33
09-28-09, 03:56 PM
Sometime back in April, when the Yankee fanbase was in full panic mode over Mo, he said something like this to Kim Jones - "at the end of the year the numbers will be where they're supposed to be". I think he was right!!!
teknetic
09-29-09, 09:59 PM
http://riveraveblues.com/2009/09/one-pitch-lands-mo-on-the-cover-of-si-17713/#comments He'll be on the cover of SI next week. Last time he was on a cover was back in '98: http://i.cdn.turner.com/sivault/si_online/covers/images/1998/0518_large.jpg
Yankeesfan924
09-30-09, 05:23 PM
Just read the article in Sports Illustrated. I thought it was really good.
pinstripesphanatic
09-30-09, 05:27 PM
love that cover.
mo's cover is very cool too.
teknetic
09-30-09, 05:42 PM
Full article is up, good read.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1160757/index.htm
"You know when you come to New York, you're going to get Mariano," Rays outfielder Gabe Gross was saying before a game last month. "It's not just before the game. I start thinking about him on the plane ride up. I know he's there waiting, and he'll be out there, and I will have to see him with the game on the line. So I start getting ready for him. I start thinking, What am I going to do to try to hit Mariano?"
"Really, we all look up to him, and the way he keeps going, he's making it hard on me to break his records. I have tremendous respect for what he has done for this long, especially because doing it under the daily pressure in New York or Boston is like nothing else in baseball."
Papelbon, from the same source. Way to take the opportunity to inflate and aggrandize yourself when you should solely be focused on the accomplishments of Mariano.
sweet_lou_14
09-30-09, 09:15 PM
Anybody else see Mo inducing and turning a double play as a very good omen in an otherwise meaningless game? For some reason that made me really happy.
Anybody else see Mo inducing and turning a double play as a very good omen in an otherwise meaningless game? For some reason that made me really happy.
Mo being in a game is usually a good omen.
Anybody else see Mo inducing and turning a double play as a very good omen in an otherwise meaningless game? For some reason that made me really happy.
to be honest, whenever I see Mo throw to second, or really any Yankee reliever, I get nervous and see flashes of 2001. it's actually kinda disturbing.
to be honest, whenever I see Mo throw to second, or really any Yankee reliever, I get nervous and see flashes of 2001. it's actually kinda disturbing.
When Mo goes to second I absolutely ALWAYS think of 2001. I probably always will. :(
Rocketbooster
09-30-09, 09:39 PM
I'm reading the SI article now............and it's tremendous so far. Mo is really a miracle.....to last this long with the foundation of one pitch ( a pitch that he tried to straighten out, lol). I'm definitely going to buy the magazine though - what a cover.
Cant wait to read the article but I also cant believe the yankees continue to give Tom Verducci seemingly unlimited access to thier clubhouse after the A-Rod article and the Torre book.
Rocketbooster
09-30-09, 10:14 PM
Cant wait to read the article but I also cant believe the yankees continue to give Tom Verducci seemingly unlimited access to thier clubhouse after the A-Rod article and the Torre book.
I don't think they could turn him down when he wanted to do a piece on Mo........The article was beautifully written. Verducci's article ripping the Yankees after Torre left was ridiculous, but he's a very good writer.
Yanknut023
09-30-09, 10:35 PM
Sounds like a great article. I have to get my hands on an a copy of SI.
Mangycur
10-02-09, 03:21 AM
Sounds like a great article. I have to get my hands on an a copy of SI.
It's online:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1160757/1/index.htm
roblyo33
10-02-09, 01:57 PM
Let's hope the SI cover curse doesn't apply here........!!!
to be honest, whenever I see Mo throw to second, or really any Yankee reliever, I get nervous and see flashes of 2001. it's actually kinda disturbing.
i know that feeling.
ps. i presume that we'll see mo either today or tomorrow for one inning just to keep him sharp.
Giovanni85
10-03-09, 05:14 PM
This is the my most favorite quote:
"I've actually had a couple of guys tell me the approach they take against Mariano is not to swing at all," Gross said. "They think more than 50 percent of his pitches are never in the strike zone. Those are the ones guys swing at and can't hit. So some guys have told me they won't swing because they think he's not going to throw you three pitches that are in the strike zone.
"Think about that. If the game is on the line and you need a hit, do you stick with that approach? I don't know if I could. But against Mariano, some guys swear you're better off not swinging at all."
Hahaha, its crazy that some hitters actually try to take their chances drawing a walk. The futility is priceless.
Rocketbooster
10-03-09, 05:51 PM
Mo showed Doc Halladay the cutter, so as Jorge said......."thanks, Mo!".
I love that Mo is not proprietary about his pitches and that he's willing to help other players better themselves.
This is the my most favorite quote:
Hahaha, its crazy that some hitters actually try to take their chances drawing a walk. The futility is priceless.
we are gonna miss him so much ...
^^soooo gay
jeter trying to look bad ass.
:badass:
roblyo33
10-06-09, 02:59 PM
Mo has spoken: (From MLB.com)
We're playing tomorrow," Mariano Rivera said on Tuesday afternoon. "For sure. Everything else is off the table. That's what it is."
CC goes seven, so hughes can hand it to mo.
i am no longer surprised when mo walks a hitter.
With all of the rotational problems this team has been having, no one really thought it would be the 8th and 9th inning guys who would blow the game.
Weird stuff
justinvarnes
10-09-09, 08:06 PM
Well, they don't have 0.00 ERA's. Not do they have 0.00 WHIP's.
Only saying that because the Twins strung together little bloops and singles. All it takes is a few of those in a row...
NYIndian2005
10-09-09, 08:11 PM
Mo should have been the stopper there. Big difference between 1 run and 2 run game in the bottom of the 8th. Bad job.
Good decisions by Girardi. Nice job Mo. 9 more wins!!
JeterForPresident
10-09-09, 11:00 PM
Mo should have been the stopper there. Big difference between 1 run and 2 run game in the bottom of the 8th. Bad job.
I love it when people feel the need to come here and complain about every little thing.
The guy has been money for years, especially in the biggest spots in the biggest games, and one night he gives up a rbi single so someone feels the need to come and make sure it is known that Mo did a "bad job."
Absolutely unbelievable. I hope it makes people feel better about themselves when they come on a message board and critique one of the most talented athletes in the world.
dabomb2045
10-09-09, 11:02 PM
Mo was fine. Span got a seeing eye single....and then Mo shut the door that inning and in the 9th.
Mo should have been the stopper there. Big difference between 1 run and 2 run game in the bottom of the 8th. Bad job.
i know how you feel but you can't blame mo. hughes got himself into trouble, mo gave up a weak single.
My mom was blaming Rivera some. Even though he didn't give up any of his own runs, allowing 2 hits and needing 27 pitches to get 4 outs are worse than average for him.
Does anybody know the last regular or postseason game before 2009 ALDS Game 2 that Rivera entered in the top of the 8th or earlier while losing?
DEADSOX
10-11-09, 11:06 AM
i am no longer surprised when mo walks a hitter.
Yeah, it's become much more common than we're used to. Mo has been struggling with is command for the last 2 months or so it seems imo. His cutter cuts a lot more now too for whatever reason.
Yeah, it's become much more common than we're used to. Mo has been struggling with is command for the last 2 months or so it seems imo. His cutter cuts a lot more now too for whatever reason.
his cutter moves more cos he isn't throwing it as hard. he's missing more cos he has to be finer without mid 90s velocity. in the SI article, he admitted that he isn't the same pitcher.
I love having this guy on my team.
In Mo I Trust
10-11-09, 08:52 PM
Beautiful.
YankeeFaninATL
10-11-09, 08:53 PM
Holy TIHS that was nasty!!!!!!!!!!!! Broke the bat and got Mauer to hit a grounder to first.
Retire21
10-11-09, 09:41 PM
Mo has now turned out the lights at old Yankee Stadium and the Metrodome.
Any ballparks closing in 2010? :D
Rocketbooster
10-11-09, 09:50 PM
That pitch to Mauer was ridiculous - holy cow, Mauer would have broken his hand had he tried to hit that.
sweet_lou_14
10-11-09, 10:13 PM
Mo's all-time stats in the ALDS:
51 1/3 IP, 2 ER
0.35 ERA
Are you kidding me?
CardNYY
10-11-09, 10:17 PM
Amazing. simply amazing.
I don't think there is any other pitcher in baseball who can neutralize Mauer like Mo did
That bat-splintering pitch to Mauer was a transcendent moment.
Yankees13
10-11-09, 10:21 PM
I don't think there is any other pitcher in baseball who can neutralize Mauer like Mo did
That was a thing of beauty.
CallOfTheCrow
10-11-09, 10:23 PM
Mo is not impressed by Mauer.
Giovanni85
10-12-09, 02:04 PM
Mariano Postseason Stats Updated:
8-1
79 Games
121.0 Innings
0.74 ERA
0.77 WHIP
76 H
17 BB
Every single one of those numbers are disgusting, but what I actually find most impressive is the discrepancy between his games played and innings pitched. He's AVERAGED 1.53 Innings per appearance, just think about that?? In today's game a closer is strictly a 1 inning pitcher, guys like Hoffman haven't pitched more than an inning it seems like in years. But Mo, in the biggest and most pressure packed moments, not only excels, but becomes a throwback and routinely gives 2 IP. Even this year, his 2 postseason appearances were 4 outs, and the man ia month away from 40. Amazing.
Mariano Postseason Stats Updated:
Every single one of those numbers are disgusting, but what I actually find most impressive is the discrepancy between his games played and innings pitched. He's AVERAGED 1.53 Innings per appearance, just think about that?? In today's game a closer is strictly a 1 inning pitcher, guys like Hoffman haven't pitched more than an inning it seems like in years. But Mo, in the biggest and most pressure packed moments, not only excels, but becomes a throwback and routinely gives 2 IP. Even this year, his 2 postseason appearances were 4 outs, and the man ia month away from 40. Amazing.
some more figures:
also, over 121 IP:
100 K
3 wild pitches
2 home runs
454 batters faced.
ThePinStripes
10-12-09, 02:15 PM
Is his control concerning anyone?
Is his control concerning anyone?
Span fisted a cutter over 2B, not much you can do about that.
Mo should have challenged Punto but then again, the ump shouldn't have been squeezing him.
Cuddyer got some clean hits off of him but Mo has always been a little weak against strong RH bats with good plate coverage.
Mo may give up a run or two against the scrappy Angels but he is a thousand times more reliable than any other closer left in the playoffs.
Yankees13
10-12-09, 03:21 PM
Span fisted a cutter over 2B, not much you can do about that.
Mo should have challenged Punto but then again, the ump shouldn't have been squeezing him.
Cuddyer got some clean hits off of him but Mo has always been a little weak against strong RH bats with good plate coverage.
Mo may give up a run or two against the scrappy Angels but he is a thousand times more reliable than any other closer left in the playoffs.
This is the key point. And after watching the two closers closest to him blow huge saves that allowed their teams to be swept, I think we see how far Mariano is still above the rest of the pack.
Giovanni85
10-12-09, 03:23 PM
Is his control concerning anyone?
One thing I realized about Mo is, as he's aged, his velocity has lost 2-3 mph and he also takes longer to warm up. I was really concerned with his control in the AB against Mauer, his first pitch got a lot of the plate and luckily Mauer took it. But as he pitches and warms up, the mph goes to 92-93 mph and the control becomes more like typical Mo. Thats why Girardi needs to be more careful with bringing him in the 8th without the proper time to warm up, something Torre routinely did.
Yankee Tripper
10-12-09, 03:44 PM
This is the key point. And after watching the two closers closest to him blow huge saves that allowed their teams to be swept, I think we see how far Mariano is still above the rest of the pack.I don't know. Broxton is pretty damn good.
Lidge would scare the hell out of me if I was a Philly fan, Fuentes is shaky as hell right now and Street I don't think is fully healthy (though he got screwed twice by the umps in one play last night).
This is the key point. And after watching the two closers closest to him blow huge saves that allowed their teams to be swept, I think we see how far Mariano is still above the rest of the pack.
The Daily News is in agreement:
Mariano Rivera is still best closer after Red Sox and Twins blow it (http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/2009/10/12/2009-10-12_mo_delivers_again.html)
MINNEAPOLIS - If there is any doubt who the best closer in baseball is, the debate was settled Sunday.
Rocketbooster
10-12-09, 06:37 PM
The Daily News is in agreement:
Mariano Rivera is still best closer after Red Sox and Twins blow it (http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/2009/10/12/2009-10-12_mo_delivers_again.html)
Good for the Daily News...........why they would even doubt it is beyond me.
teknetic
10-12-09, 09:37 PM
Three elite closers, three straight choke-jobs that cost his team their season. Could throw in Franklin, but that's another story.
He's so boring.
Rocketbooster
10-12-09, 10:03 PM
I think Yankee fans need to stop getting upset or concerned every time Mo walks someone or gives up a hit – he can’t be perfect and frankly, 99% of the time, Mo ends up giving up nothing. What we saw tonight and from Franklin and Paplebon, well – that is what almost all fans have to deal with on a fairly regular basis. Maybe the leads won’t always be blown, but these guys will put runners on and give the fans agita.
I’ve always wondered how closers who blow games like this look their teammates in the faces…….
Rocketman
10-13-09, 12:54 PM
The Washington Post agrees that Rivera is the most valuable player over the last decade and a half, if not longer:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/10/12/AR2009101202000.html?hpid=artslot
The Washington Post agrees that Rivera is the most valuable player over the last decade and a half, if not longer:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/10/12/AR2009101202000.html?hpid=artslot
it is quite possible that without mo, we'd only have won one or two WS during the late 90s.
stazsanity
10-14-09, 11:49 AM
it is quite possible that without mo, we'd only have won one or two WS during the late 90s.
Jorge called, he wants his quote back.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1160757/index.htm
Jorge called, he wants his quote back.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1160757/index.htm
i took it from buster olney's book.
Cool Papa B.
10-14-09, 07:35 PM
Mariano wins Delivery Man of Year Award
It's third time in his career Yanks closer has picked up honor
Congratulations Mo!!!! Thr best closer the game has ever seen. BTW, Mo picked up his his 100 career postseason strikeout in Game 3 against the Twins. He has a long way to go to catch John Smoltz (194 K's) though.
GO YANKEES!!!!
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20091014&content_id=7455952&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb
The Q Bomb
10-14-09, 09:15 PM
i took it from buster olney's book. What a great article. You know, I didn't realize it had started to rain before Mariano threw that ball away. The thing I remember most about that game was, after he made the error, the next batter hit a tough ball back to him and Mo nailed the runner going to third. I thought I would have just thrown the ball to first - the heck with getting the out at third. I would have been afraid of making another error. A friend said to me - "Mariano's got the heart of a champion. That's why he threw to third."
I have said for years - he has to be the most beloved athlete in NYC - even more than Jeter, I think. Maybe not the most popular but the most beloved.
What a great article. You know, I didn't realize it had started to rain before Mariano threw that ball away. The thing I remember most about that game was, after he made the error, the next batter hit a tough ball back to him and Mo nailed the runner going to third. I thought I would have just thrown the ball to first - the heck with getting the out at third. I would have been afraid of making another error. A friend said to me - "Mariano's got the heart of a champion. That's why he threw to third."
I have said for years - he has to be the most beloved athlete in NYC - even more than Jeter, I think. Maybe not the most popular but the most beloved.
i believe mo has never been booed by yankee fans. exceptionally rare.
yankeebot
10-15-09, 10:03 AM
i believe mo has never been booed by yankee fans. exceptionally rare.
Unfortunately, he has been.
Unfortunately, he has been.
really? when?
Yankee Tripper
10-15-09, 11:01 AM
really? when?April a couple years ago when "he was washed up" and blew a couple games against the RSox IIRC.
effdamets
10-15-09, 11:07 AM
April a couple years ago when "he was washed up" and blew a couple games against the RSox IIRC.
Correct.
The only Yankee player that I can recall never being boo'ed was Don Mattingly.
My father told me that even Dimaggio, Mantle and Berra were boo'ed
stazsanity
10-15-09, 11:51 AM
April a couple years ago when "he was washed up" and blew a couple games against the RSox IIRC.
i'm not sure if you follow bill simmons on espn or his pod casts at all, but he traditionally brings in a friend of his named jack-o who went as far during may as to call rivera "the most over-rated player of all time."
and believe it or not, jack-o is a yankee fan.
April a couple years ago when "he was washed up" and blew a couple games against the RSox IIRC.
i remember those games. don't recall him being booed though.
Correct.
The only Yankee player that I can recall never being boo'ed was Don Mattingly. My father told me that even Dimaggio, Mantle and Berra were boo'ed
none of that surprises me.
effdamets
10-15-09, 01:26 PM
i'm not sure if you follow bill simmons on espn or his pod casts at all, but he traditionally brings in a friend of his named jack-o who went as far during may as to call rivera "the most over-rated player of all time."
and believe it or not, jack-o is a yankee fan.
Well - at least we know that "O" stands for "off"....
Complete a$$head!
Maybe his first name is Eyemah
parkerstrong
10-16-09, 01:40 PM
http://insider.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?entryID=4564969&name=gammons_peter&action=upsell&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fespn%2fblog%2findex%3fentryID%3d4564969%26name%3dgammons_peter
Gammons insider....the paragraph that you can read states that Sandy Aloar Jr. hit an opposite field HR in 2007.....that was 1997. I would say he is losing it, but actually he already lost it
parker, i'm liking your sig.
Man Mo looks old when he starts warming up..... but, being a machine it doesn't matter ;);)!! God bless you Mo!! Glad you are a Yankee.
I like that... "This new guy we got".
b-ball-lunachick
10-16-09, 10:26 PM
Mo got squeezed a bit tonight on at least three pitches...still muscled through it - nice job Mo. :)
Oh, yeah! Steady as he goes.
Just to throw this out because it usually happens when Mo pitches..... how awesome is it to hear "New York, New York"??
jimmykey2
10-16-09, 10:39 PM
One of these days, Mo won't have it anymore.
I think that day might be in 2016.
NYYDragoon
10-16-09, 11:01 PM
But guys, McCarver told me that Mo didn't look right during warmups!
Idiot.
Yankee Tripper
10-16-09, 11:08 PM
But guys, McCarver told me that Mo didn't look right during warmups!
Idiot.He was right. Mo walked someone:eek:
b-ball-lunachick
10-16-09, 11:11 PM
Just to throw this out because it usually happens when Mo pitches..... how awesome is it to hear "New York, New York"??
One of the best thing in sports is to be there when Enter Sandman comes on and usually followed shortly after by New York, New York...and in the playoffs, even more singing along with the NY, NY...it's a beautiful thing. :)
NYYDragoon
10-16-09, 11:36 PM
Mitch Williams in total awe over Mo's performance tonight. I love it.
Not sure why, but this always seemed appropriate for Mo
http://koti.mbnet.fi/wiitanen/I-am-the-law.jpg
But guys, McCarver told me that Mo didn't look right during warmups!
Idiot.I didn't get that either as McCarver said it yet offered nothing to clarify why he thought that.
I didn't get that either as McCarver said it yet offered nothing to clarify why he thought that.
he said it cos mo walked the first guy. had he have struckout torii, mccarver would have said that mo was looking exception in the 'pen.
The trend of umps squeezing Mo has become quite disturbing.
Last night:
http://brooksbaseball.net/pfx/numlocation.php?xml=http://gd2.mlb.com/components/game/mlb/year_2009/month_10/day_16/gid_2009_10_16_anamlb_nyamlb_1//pbp/pitchers/121250.xml&batterX=0&innings=yyyyyyyyy&sp_type=1&s_type=1
The #3 green square (ball) on the lower line would have made the count 2-1 against Hunter. The other #3 green square would have K'ed Rivera.
Nice, now get him a run!!
Wow, he definitely has come out throwing strikes!
bomber999
10-17-09, 10:16 PM
Wow!! Get him a win!!!
Best closer ever.
NZ NYY Fan
10-17-09, 10:17 PM
The man is amazing. Works fast and efficiently
Best closer ever.
Period. No question.
Sillycon
10-17-09, 10:17 PM
I'm one who thinks the closer role is overrated. I also go crazy whenever Mo does poorly in those tie games. That said, I thank the stars that he's on our team....
Come on MO, one more clean inning.
I really think if he gets 2 more outs with no runs we win.
Great job (again) Mo!! Now we win!!
bomber999
10-17-09, 10:39 PM
Great job (again) Mo!! Now we win!!
Please, let's win now. Games in which we have to use relievers after Mo usually don't end well for us.
Fuentes is not unhittable. Do it now!
Kathordine
10-17-09, 10:40 PM
Mo is goooddddd. we better score NOWWWWWWWWWW
Mo is goooddddd. we better score NOWWWWWWWWWW
Win this for the machine!!
Might be in trouble now. Hope Al is on tonight, but thanks anyways Mo. Great outing.
Jeter Kid
10-17-09, 10:54 PM
He's not even fair.
DaYanks24
10-17-09, 10:56 PM
He did everything that could be asked of him tonight. Great, as usual.
The bats could learn a thing or two from Mo
The bats could learn a thing or two from Mo
Agreed... :D.
Agreed... :D.
He shouldn't have his efforts wasted like this, the man was masterful
Hooligan Tavarez
10-17-09, 11:24 PM
Game 7 of the 2003 ALCS was on today on MLB Network. It's unfair how good he is, especially in those situations.
teknetic
10-18-09, 12:19 AM
Literally gonna cry when he hangs it up.
He's appeared in 80 games and has only 36 saves, says all you need to know.
Rocketman
10-18-09, 12:20 AM
When was the last time Mo went 2 1/3 IP? I can't even remember!
Still, he's phenomenal. The best relief pitcher ever, and the best postseason pitcher ever, bar none.
sweet_lou_14
10-18-09, 12:21 AM
He shouldn't have his efforts wasted like this, the man was masterful
Premature exasperation is a treatable condition.
sweet_lou_14
10-18-09, 12:22 AM
Literally gonna cry when he hangs it up.
He's appeared in 80 games and has only 36 saves, says all you need to know.
Does it? On the face of it, that sounds like an awful stat! :)
When was the last time Mo went 2 1/3 IP? I can't even remember!Possibly, on the same night when he last went 3 IP ... October 16-17, 2003.
b-ball-lunachick
10-18-09, 12:23 AM
When you see what happened to Fuentes (and almost every other closer this postseason), it's truly amazing what he's able to do...I usually get a little scared when he comes in a tie game but not in the postseason..he's unbelievable. :)
You look at all the blown saves this postseason, including one tonight, and one man's steady arm still stands. Mo was Godlike tonight!
Yankees13
10-18-09, 12:24 AM
Incredible.
NYYDragoon
10-18-09, 12:38 AM
The older he gets the better he is. He's like quality rum.
The older he gets the better he is. He's like quality rum.
Hope he lasts forever!
nnysiny
10-18-09, 12:46 AM
124 1/3 postseason innings, 0.72 ERA
124 1/3 postseason innings, 0.72 ERA
A record that will never be touched.
njyankeesfan
10-18-09, 12:51 AM
:cheer:
nnysiny
10-18-09, 12:51 AM
When was the last time Mo went 2 1/3 IP? I can't even remember!
Still, he's phenomenal. The best relief pitcher ever, and the best postseason pitcher ever, bar none.
3 innings against Detroit in the 2005 regular season, and the 3 he threw in the 2004 ALCS
3 innings against Detroit in the 2005 regular season, and the 3 he threw in the 2004 ALCS
Exactly the point!! Best that will ever "be".
3 innings against Detroit in the 2005 regular season, and the 3 he threw in the 2004 ALCSOK, I stand corrected.
OK, I stand corrected.
BEST EVER!!!
TheGameEpisode2
10-18-09, 01:03 AM
Now you know why Girardi didn't use Rivera for four out saves very often, for moments just like these.
Greatest ever.
Q.: What did it take to win this one?
A.: Everything. It took everything from everybody.--Mo on the YES postgame show.
I've seldom heard him so "up" after a win. At first all he could say was "What a game! What a game!"
Rocketbooster
10-18-09, 01:19 AM
--Mo on the YES postgame show.
I've seldom heard him so "up" after a win. At first all he could say was "What a game! What a game!"
I need to watch that again - I only heard bits and pieces as I was flipping between YES and MLB. I love that quote, though - it's just like Mo to be humble and to credit all his teammate. The man is a machine...........lol, he's doing this at 39 years of age.
There's nothing else I can say except greatest of all time. There will never, ever, be anyone like him.
stazsanity
10-18-09, 01:33 AM
There's nothing else I can say except greatest of all time. There will never, ever, be anyone like him.
well said. oh so true.
I will miss him a lot when he retires, and after the closer blew the game :lol:
pinstripesphanatic
10-18-09, 03:25 AM
what more can be said really. brilliant job Mo. :clap:
JeterForPresident
10-18-09, 03:31 AM
I was there tonight. Watching him was just magical.
He is truly amazing.
StatenIslandYankee
10-18-09, 03:51 AM
He's not HUMAN.
In case anyone in the baseball world forgot, this postseason is reminding everyone that Rivera is the best closer of all time and so far head and shoulders above the next guy.
mycroft
10-18-09, 07:59 AM
Premature exasperation is a treatable condition.
Nice!
Enter Sandman:clapping:
YankeePride1967
10-18-09, 08:06 AM
I thought this would be his last contract, I'm not so sure now.
jnewmark
10-18-09, 09:06 AM
In case anyone in the baseball world forgot, this postseason is reminding everyone that Rivera is the best closer of all time and so far head and shoulders above the next guy.
My thoughts too. Even Buck and McGarver are finally saying this after 13 years of watching him close.
YankeesFanJS
10-18-09, 09:27 AM
He's not HUMAN.
cue up Drago from Rocky IV, "he is not human. he is like a piece of iron"
Premature exasperation is a treatable condition.
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yankeesfan924
10-18-09, 10:19 AM
Like I've said before, seeing Mo dominate throwing 90 mph cutters makes me wonder how anybody hit him at all when he was throwing 95 mph cutters.
frostdude1
10-18-09, 10:24 AM
SOSH quotes about Rivera
i cannot wait until rivera retires and the mfy are forced to use a human being as their closer.
Get old already. What the f**k?
F**king Rivera will just dominate until he's 62.
Rivera is just unbelievable. Yankees fans call 1996-the present The Jeter Era, but it's got to be The Rivera Era. He is THE guy.
nnysiny
10-18-09, 10:33 AM
Get old already. What the f**k?
:lol:
Sixty one
10-18-09, 10:37 AM
He must have ice in his vains. I think they shouldn't wait until he retires and should put him in the HOF this year!!;) ;)
YankeesFanJS
10-18-09, 10:54 AM
SOSH quotes about Rivera
i cannot wait until rivera retires and the mfy are forced to use a human being as their closer.
Get old already. What the f**k?
F**king Rivera will just dominate until he's 62.
Rivera is just unbelievable. Yankees fans call 1996-the present The Jeter Era, but it's got to be The Rivera Era. He is THE guy.
:lol: That's AWESOME!
YanksFan1992
10-18-09, 11:02 AM
Incredible. :clap:
The Q Bomb
10-18-09, 11:50 AM
...i cannot wait until rivera retires and the mfy are forced to use a human being as their closer.
Get old already. What the f**k?
Those two lines are priceless!
You know, I always thought Mo's finest moment was when he pitched three innings against The Red Sox in Game 7 of the 2003 ALCS. It was kind of forgotten compared to the dramatic Aaron Boone homerun, but it showed me what Mo is - more than the most talented reliever to ever walk the planet, but a player with a lot of heart. What a competitor. He gets it done. The other thing that I'll always remember about him is how, after he made an error on the throw to second base in Game 7 of the 2001 World Series, he turns and throws a perfect strike to third to get the runner on the next play. As someone said - he's got the heart of a champion.
Love the guy.
StatenIslandYankee
10-18-09, 11:52 AM
SOSH quotes about Rivera
i cannot wait until rivera retires and the mfy are forced to use a human being as their closer.
Get old already. What the f**k?
F**king Rivera will just dominate until he's 62.
Rivera is just unbelievable. Yankees fans call 1996-the present The Jeter Era, but it's got to be The Rivera Era. He is THE guy.
lol @ forced to use a Human Being as their closer.
NYYDragoon
10-18-09, 12:25 PM
SOSH quotes about Rivera
i cannot wait until rivera retires and the mfy are forced to use a human being as their closer.
Get old already. What the f**k?
F**king Rivera will just dominate until he's 62.
Rivera is just unbelievable. Yankees fans call 1996-the present The Jeter Era, but it's got to be The Rivera Era. He is THE guy.:lol::lol::lol:
Awesome.
CardNYY
10-18-09, 12:53 PM
All Hail #42.
Zimmers' Helmet
10-18-09, 01:03 PM
If this guy isn't a first ballot HOF'er, then I don't know who is.
Mo is the greatest reliever of all time and I really don't think that it can even be disputed.
And on the eighth day, God created Mariano Rivera. :D
roblyo33
10-18-09, 07:51 PM
Mo created himself?
Can he do it again???
Can he do it again???
Well, supposedly he's been teaching his oldest son the cutter!
pleasepassthesoup
10-19-09, 08:52 AM
Mo is the greatest sentient being of all time and I really don't think that it can even be disputed.
Fixed.
Don Wrigley
10-19-09, 09:05 AM
Like I've said before, seeing Mo dominate throwing 90 mph cutters makes me wonder how anybody hit him at all when he was throwing 95 mph cutters.
He didn't have the same control when he was throwing 95mph. The control has at least made up for the lost velocity, as can be seen in the past few years where there has been no downtick in his numbers (and, one could argue, a slight uptick).
ThePinStripes
10-19-09, 09:15 AM
Like I've said before, seeing Mo dominate throwing 90 mph cutters makes me wonder how anybody hit him at all when he was throwing 95 mph cutters.
They didn't.
NickyMantle
10-19-09, 09:19 AM
Mo will be 65 yrs old and throwing 83 mph Cutters for 1-2-3 innings
Nuke LaLoosh
10-19-09, 09:22 AM
Mo's reduction in velocity is simply an attempt to be more "eco-friendly". He was breaking so many bats back when he threw 92-95mph that he was single handedly causing global warming due to deforestation.
He has taken a few mph off the cutter to save the planet.
Retire21
10-19-09, 09:32 AM
Mariano is the most dominant player of this era, Bonds or no Bonds. The guy changes the way teams play the Yankees, similar to how Ruth must have been in the 20s and 30s.
He is such a graceful athlete- the only guy who comes to mind (though I never saw him play) is Clemente. He has perfect pitching mechanics, is incredibly graceful and understated, and seems to always maintain perfect self-control.
Like his teammates say, he's such a great athlete that if he wasn't a legendary closer, he'd probably have someone's job as an everyday player. I love the story about Mo's signature- how he takes his time to make every letter perfect. That just demonstrates someone who holds himself to a higher standard.
justtxyank
10-19-09, 09:40 AM
When he retires they need to create the Mariano Rivera award.
Zimmers' Helmet
10-19-09, 09:46 AM
When he retires they need to create the Mariano Rivera award.
I concur.
Joba-Walkee
10-19-09, 07:16 PM
Not human.
PirateChief
10-19-09, 07:17 PM
Are you there God? It's me. You are god.
NYYDragoon
10-19-09, 07:17 PM
He is a god among men.
frostdude1
10-19-09, 07:21 PM
I love you so much Mariano
genius-24
10-19-09, 07:22 PM
He isn't mortal.
yankeesAZ
10-19-09, 07:46 PM
That was not a statistical save, but that was a SAVE!
Stanesq
10-19-09, 08:16 PM
Perosnally, I would not have brought Mo into Game 3. I would be saving him for next two games or for an actual save situation.
The Q Bomb
10-19-09, 08:20 PM
SOSH quotes about Rivera
i cannot wait until rivera retires and the mfy are forced to use a human being as their closer...
What else is there to say? Simply The Best.
Mo's reduction in velocity is simply an attempt to be more "eco-friendly". He was breaking so many bats back when he threw 92-95mph that he was single handedly causing global warming due to deforestation.
He has taken a few mph off the cutter to save the planet.
Mo was clocked at 91-93 on gameday this afternoon.
Perosnally, I would not have brought Mo into Game 3. I would be saving him for next two games or for an actual save situation.
Girardi is always by the book, which is why I was surprised and happy to see him using Mo with the tie game on the road. Why lose with the best reliever of all time sitting in the bullpen? Mo should be used in the most high leverage situations.
njyankeesfan
10-19-09, 10:41 PM
It took maturity, poise and guts to get out of the jam that Mo was in, in today's game. Watching Rivera pitch is such a treat and a privilege!
Too bad we didn't get the "W" today.
susan mullen
10-20-09, 02:42 AM
Halos Heaven an SB Nation blog has a video out tonight purporting to show Mariano Rivera spitting on a game ball. They put the video on You Tube. The blogger asks people to view the video, then vote as to whether Rivera should be banned from baseball. I did not watch the video and don't plan to. The blogger suggests Rivera's success owes to an illegal spitball. I guess they think he does it most or all the time. I just thought I'd mention it here as it's an internet thing and may be discussed tomorrow.
LazyEyeLou
10-20-09, 08:33 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KihPKUZni8Y
It took maturity, poise and guts to get out of the jam that Mo was in, in today's game. Watching Rivera pitch is such a treat and a privilege!
Too bad we didn't get the "W" today.
The expression on Mo's face after he threw the ball to A-Rod at third was priceless...his agony and anger with himself came through loud and clear. But then, he went back to work and showed us again, and the baseball world, why he is so great. Amazing. Thanks, too, to Teix--a huge upgrade over Giambi.
parkerstrong
10-20-09, 08:50 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KihPKUZni8Y
Love that people realize Rivera is so nasty that he MUST be cheating lol. He didnt spit on the ball-someone would have called time if they thought it was close and you dont see the spit bounce off of the ball....that was a big loogy he let go.
Just shows how important Rivera is....Broxton just killed the Dodgers season. Nathan, Fuentes, Papelbon, Broxton, Street, Franklin....who would have thought all of them would blow a postseason save before Lidge? Rivera (to me) has been the biggest part of the recent Yankee dynasty.
8 postseason closers and 6 of them have already blown a save....amazing
The fact Rivera goes more than 1 inning often even makes his value higher....
Tehasguard
10-20-09, 09:01 AM
Just checked it on my mlb.tv subscription (full hd and full screen mode)
He doesn't spit on the ball,
so relax in case you were worried.
DjarDjar
10-20-09, 09:12 AM
Yeah, not to mention you don't literally spit on the ball to throw a spitball.
effdamets
10-20-09, 09:13 AM
I think Mariano is trying to disprove the theory that once you give up a run, your ERA cannot be zero.....
Just insane!
Tehasguard
10-20-09, 09:29 AM
http://www.freepicsupload.com/pics/phpFhuC2b-NOspitrivera.jpg
I think Mariano is trying to disprove the theory that once you give up a run, your ERA cannot be zero.....
Just insane!
:-rofl-::-rofl-::-rofl-:
BurntAsh
10-20-09, 10:04 AM
http://www.freepicsupload.com/pics/phpFhuC2b-NOspitrivera.jpg
It looks like Mo is loading up his thumb with a loogy.
Zeppelindays
10-20-09, 10:37 AM
That picture doesn't prove anything. It could just be a freeze frame when the spit was making it's way past his hand unto the ground.
LazyEyeLou
10-20-09, 10:46 AM
That picture doesn't prove anything. It could just be a freeze frame when the spit was making it's way past his hand unto the ground.
That's exactly what it is, and it exonerates Mo.
Zeppelindays
10-20-09, 10:50 AM
Oh ok, it looks a little bit like the spit is on and around his fingers and the ball at first. Nevermind
YankeesFanJS
10-20-09, 10:54 AM
Perosnally, I would not have brought Mo into Game 3. I would be saving him for next two games or for an actual save situation.
In that situation, it is never a bad idea to bring mo into the game...with a runner on second, nobody out...the angels bunt and get a fly ball and the Yankees lose. I can't argue with Girardi on this call
Tehasguard
10-20-09, 10:55 AM
That's exactly what it is, and it exonerates Mo.
slowed the vid down,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVe8MhfEbnY
Make of it what you want,
but to me it's obvious he didn't spit on the ball
CardNYY
10-20-09, 11:12 AM
The Yankee haters are out in full force today
myanks12
10-20-09, 11:17 AM
slowed the vid down,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVe8MhfEbnY
Make of it what you want,
but to me it's obvious he didn't spit on the ball
You can see the spit falling in front of his hand pretty clearly. It never came close to the ball.
I'm A Wenner!
10-20-09, 11:18 AM
Somehow I knew there would be people taking this seriously. There is no way that Rivera is holding the ball at his waist and hocking a loogie on it. If he wanted to throw a spitter, there are much more clandestine ways to do it. He spit on the ground. Give it up. If he did this to load up the ball, it would have been noticed years ago.
Mr Coffee
10-20-09, 11:35 AM
"You trying to say Jesus Christ can't throw a split-finger fastball?"
pleasepassthesoup
10-20-09, 12:10 PM
this might be the stupidest thing i've ever heard.
In fact, even if somebody told me that the world was going to end in 30 minutes because the ghost of Attilla the Hun was going to propel himself into outter-space in order to blot out the Sun with a giant box of Cracker Jacks, this would still be the stupidest thing i've ever heard.
yanksphan
10-20-09, 12:15 PM
MLB stepping in....
http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/hardball/mlb_investigating_accusations_that_KUYl75fHTsuAqmMedUNsSP
The Baseball Operations Department of the Commissioners Office is investigating video that shows Mariano Rivera spitting toward a baseball before facing his first batter in the 10th inning of Game 3, the Post has learned.
However, the initial reaction by the league is that the video plus still pictures they have of the incident are inconclusive if Rivera is actually spitting on or near the ball. MLB does not believe anything will conclusively link Rivera to doctoring the ball to face Erick Aybar with a runner on second and none out in the 10th. But the Baseball Operations Department headed by Jimmie Lee Solomon is continuing to try to gather as many images as possible to determine exactly what is occurring.
b_joseph
10-20-09, 12:20 PM
Shame that he will have this over his head for a few years now.
Buck will have a field day tonight.
Yankee Tripper
10-20-09, 12:28 PM
Of course he spit on the ball, how else do you explain his poor throw to 3rd other than his figure hit the spit spot? :P
Shame that he will have this over his head for a few years now.
Buck will have a field day tonight.
I think Rivera should spit on Joe Buck.
pleasepassthesoup
10-20-09, 12:34 PM
I think Rivera should spit on Joe Buck.
Buck's into that.
Yankee Tripper
10-20-09, 12:34 PM
Shame that he will have this over his head for a few years now.
Can he use it to cover the bald spot?
b_joseph
10-20-09, 12:59 PM
Can he use it to cover the bald spot?No way...it makes him look distinguished :)
yanksphan
10-20-09, 01:04 PM
Spitgate - OVER.
http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/hardball/mlb_no_evidence_rivera_threw_spitter_KUYl75fHTsuAqmMedUNsSP
The Commissioners Office reviewed available video and still photography from Mariano Rivera spitting toward a baseball in ALCS Game 3 and “found no evidence that Rivera spit on the ball,” a spokesman for the commissioner told the Post.
NYYDragoon
10-20-09, 01:14 PM
The haters are absolutely out-of-control. Wow.
Of course MLB found nothing, because there's nothing to find.
myanks12
10-20-09, 01:17 PM
Real shocker here. If you look at the slowed down version, there's no chance that Rivera is spitting on the ball. It's amazing that this story actually lasted this long.
CanoForPresident
10-20-09, 01:19 PM
Real shocker here. If you look at the slowed down version, there's no chance that Rivera is spitting on the ball. It's amazing that this story actually lasted this long.
Gotta love desperate Halo band wagoners and all the haters who will try to legitimize anything that puts the Yankees in a bad light, even something as retarded as this.
DEADSOX
10-20-09, 01:52 PM
The amazing thing about all this is that Rivera has been able to hide this dirty trick for 15 years, only to be finally caught on National TV during an ALCS game. He needs to be sent back to Panama and executed for cheating this long.
Mr Coffee
10-20-09, 02:00 PM
F-ing Franscesa is saying he did spit on the ball-that it's obvious. What a tool.
I hate that fat bastard.
JavyVazquezIsSick
10-20-09, 02:03 PM
If you listen to him, you support him being on the air.
LazyEyeLou
10-20-09, 02:04 PM
F-ing Franscesa is saying he did spit on the ball-that it's obvious. What a tool.
I hate that fat bastard.
Seriously? What a moron.
Mr Coffee
10-20-09, 02:06 PM
If you listen to him, you support him being on the air.
It's ok-- I lie on the Neilsen questionnaire.
Actually I tuned in after someone emailed me about his position on Mo.
DEADSOX
10-20-09, 02:08 PM
When SOSH isn't even buying it, you know it's a non-issue.
Zeppelindays
10-20-09, 02:10 PM
What's obvious exactly Mike? I don't see the spit hitting the ball...
His massive ego must be longing for attention today
Seriously? What a moron.
He needs to go away.
Mr Coffee
10-20-09, 02:13 PM
What's obvious exactly Mike? I don't see the spit hitting the ball...
His massive ego must be longing for attention today
Apparently he had talked about it before I tuned in. While I was listening, Sweeney came in with an update saying MLB found no evidence of Mo spitting on the ball.
Francesca says "Well of course they're going to say that, even though it's obvious he did."
Fat Eddie Munster-looking MFer.
ARodCanoMelky
10-20-09, 02:15 PM
I remember spitballs are done by using Vaseline.
Shame that he will have this over his head for a few years now.
Buck will have a field day tonight.
No he won't..... and yes Buck will go crazy with this!!
Zeppelindays
10-20-09, 02:22 PM
Curious to see how Rivera will respond to this. He will probably laugh and say that until this morning he didn't even know such a thing as a spit-ball existed
LazyEyeLou
10-20-09, 02:22 PM
http://deadspin.com/5385945/spit-takes-debunking-the-mariano-rivera-loogie-accusations/gallery/
Sounds like the only idiot who still believes it is Fatcessa (and maybe the Halo Heaven moron)
yanksphan
10-20-09, 02:34 PM
Fat Eddie Munster-looking MFer.
I smell a photoshop coming....
Mr Coffee
10-20-09, 02:36 PM
I smell a photoshop coming....
Maybe later-- I gotta run out now.
:)
JeterRodriguezSheff
10-20-09, 02:38 PM
The funny part about this, is that saying you throw a spitball by spitting on the ball is like saying you babysit by sitting on a baby. It was an expression coined in the early 1900's for doctoring the ball, usually with pine tar or vaseline, and wasnt meant to be taken literally. Im pretty sure using saliva would be pretty ineffective in doctoring the ball. You would think somebody with the ego of Francessa would know that.
dabomb2045
10-20-09, 02:39 PM
Do people even realize that throwing a spitball....actually doesnt involve spitting and/or using spit?
When I first heard this "Mo spat on the ball--he's throwing spitters!!" I LOL'd for a good 5 minutes. People are so dumb.
LazyEyeLou
10-20-09, 02:39 PM
Just called Francesca and told him that video and photo evidence shows it did not hit the ball. He pauses, goes "...okay, okay...how many man hours...how many man hours have been spent..."
Then he hung up on me and I don't have radio, so I have no idea what happened after.
I'd like to see Mo spit on that monkey tonight.
JavyVazquezIsSick
10-20-09, 02:44 PM
I'm hoping Mo won't be needed tonight.
JeterRodriguezSheff
10-20-09, 02:47 PM
someone call up francessa and tell him, you dont throw spitballs by spitting on the ball, and then call him fat.
DaSh 1s
10-20-09, 02:47 PM
From SoSH
Rivera looks like he spit straight on the ball, but he employs a deadly cut-loogie that has late movement darting inside and missing the ball entirely.
^ :lol:
BurntAsh
10-20-09, 02:52 PM
You have to let those loogies crust up before they work.
Rocketbooster
10-20-09, 05:22 PM
F-ing Franscesa is saying he did spit on the ball-that it's obvious. What a tool.
I hate that fat bastard.
What ? Francesca accused Mo, MO, of cheating? What a prick.
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