View Full Version : What if A-Rod is our Manny?
yankeegeek
03-18-09, 10:20 PM
You know how in Boston it became"Manny being Manny" whenever he did something that made Boston fans scratch their heads. What it Yankee fans have that with A-Rod? I think that we can all agree that A-Rod has done many things that make us scratch their heads and say"huh" on more than once.
Do we have our own case of "A-Rod Being A-Rod"?
goin for 27
03-18-09, 10:22 PM
In before the lock.
ericns1
03-18-09, 10:24 PM
afraid so and for several more years given his salary
TheInfallibleOne
03-18-09, 10:25 PM
Oh good, ANOTHER A-Rod thread.
And no, we won't have A-Rod being A-Rod because A-Rod's head scratchers are never going to be as funny as Manny diving to cut off the throw from CF, wearing MP3 sunglasses and dropping easy flies, going into the scoreboard for no apparent reason, or using the term Mannywood.
Wouldn't we have won a few championships with him if he was OUR Manny?
roblyo33
03-18-09, 10:34 PM
Please, let the season begin so we can put an end to threads like this one. :-padlock-
Another day another A-Rod thread.
We can dream, can't we? ;)
Dave Visbeck
03-18-09, 10:41 PM
You know how in Boston it became"Manny being Manny" whenever he did something that made Boston fans scratch their heads. What it Yankee fans have that with A-Rod? I think that we can all agree that A-Rod has done many things that make us scratch their heads and say"huh" on more than once.
Do we have our own case of "A-Rod Being A-Rod"?
Doubt it.
NYYDragoon
03-18-09, 11:30 PM
Arod hasn't sat out on his team.
JeterForPresident
03-19-09, 12:03 AM
Arod hasn't sat out on his team.
Exactly. Call me when he fakes an injury to force a trade so he can try and get himself a bigger contract.
teknetic
03-19-09, 12:14 AM
afraid so and for several more years given his salary
We'll never recover. Someone get Brosius out of retirement.
Hitman23
03-19-09, 02:09 AM
Wouldn't we have won a few championships with him if he was OUR Manny? http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/b/b8/Regan.gif
That means we can have two WS titles in the next few years? I take it.
Please guys stop using the phrase A-Rod being A-rod its "Thats Alex" as the clubhouse says :)
BRNXBMRS
03-19-09, 08:09 AM
If it means A-rod putting the fear of god into the opposing team everytime he steps into the batters box, I'll take it. Along with Mannys WSMVP.
YanksFanTillDeath
03-19-09, 08:20 AM
jeez we got some clueless fans...
Hope this is locked soon... Get over it ... this team is not the same without A-ROD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DontHateOnNumber2
03-19-09, 08:51 AM
Manny talked too much garbage, and didn't want to play. Alex is actually hurt and gets legitimately pissed when the Yankees lose. I don't think it's much of a comparable situation.
Retire21
03-19-09, 09:03 AM
I don't think there's any "if" involved. Unfortunately, he is our Manny on the behavioral side of things and not performance-wise.
THEBOSS84
03-19-09, 09:06 AM
I don't think there's any "if" involved. Unfortunately, he is our Manny on the behavioral side of things and not performance-wise.
I understand you don't love A-rod, but this is way off.
rudedog71
03-19-09, 09:14 AM
Exactly. Call me when he fakes an injury to force a trade so he can try and get himself a bigger contract.
agreed...i'm not a huge Alex fan, but i agree the comparison in the context of selfishness and teamsmanship is a bit of a stretch. Arod's not a cancer, maybe just a bad sunburn.
Retire21
03-19-09, 09:14 AM
I understand you don't love A-rod, but this is way off.
Okay, to be fair: October performance. :)
Derek2HOF
03-19-09, 09:17 AM
Manny being Manny got Boston two World Series Championships. Sign me up!
Retire21
03-19-09, 09:18 AM
As much I dislike them both, I can honestly say that- if I had to choose- I would rather have Manny on the team than Alex- both going forward as well as from 2004-2008. I think it is extremely likely this team would have won something other than 2004 infamy with Manny on the team. Granted, I am saying this with the results of October 2004-2007 in hindsight and that is probably not fair, but if you could go back and take Manny off irrevocable waivers in 2003 and pass on the Alex trade in Feb. 2004, would you do it?
That is not to say I hold Alex solely responsible for the teams' failures in the playoffs from 2004-2007, but considering Alex's position in the batting order and his weak performances in that position, I think it is fairly reasonable to say that Manny would have performed better in those situations and maybe would have helped carry us to more titles. And I can't stand the guy (Manny)- but there you have it.
i woke up this morning and thought "i really hope someone opens another a-rod thread, i don't feel we have enough places to discuss our third baseman".
A-Rod is the perfect teammate that you don't want to go to the bar with.
I don't even want Manny on the team.
Bambino22
03-19-09, 01:34 PM
As much I dislike them both, I can honestly say that- if I had to choose- I would rather have Manny on the team than Alex- both going forward as well as from 2004-2008. I think it is extremely likely this team would have won something other than 2004 infamy with Manny on the team. Granted, I am saying this with the results of October 2004-2007 in hindsight and that is probably not fair, but if you could go back and take Manny off irrevocable waivers in 2003 and pass on the Alex trade in Feb. 2004, would you do it?
That is not to say I hold Alex solely responsible for the teams' failures in the playoffs from 2004-2007, but considering Alex's position in the batting order and his weak performances in that position, I think it is fairly reasonable to say that Manny would have performed better in those situations and maybe would have helped carry us to more titles. And I can't stand the guy (Manny)- but there you have it.
Personally, I think we would have been better off with Tony Womack.
djeter220
03-19-09, 01:35 PM
A-Rod is the perfect teammate that you don't want to go to the bar with.
I don't even want Manny on the team.
Exactly. I'm happy the team has some chemistry with guys like CC, Joba, Swish and Bruney, but A-Rod is far from detrimental to the team. Anyone who compares him to Manny is delusional.
flymick24
03-19-09, 01:48 PM
a-rod makes my balls hurt
Sheffield
03-19-09, 01:53 PM
Why is that everyone with a mildly amusing post think that it's worthy of a entirely new thread?
Mr. Mxylsplk
03-19-09, 01:56 PM
Why is that everyone with a mildly amusing post think that it's worthy of a entirely new thread?
Interesting question - probably should be a thread....
djeter220
03-19-09, 01:56 PM
Why is that everyone with a mildly amusing post think that it's worthy of a entirely new thread?
Because all the A-Rod detractors feel that they're the brilliant mind that thinks scott brosius is better than alex rodriguez.
RIYankeeFan
03-19-09, 02:30 PM
A-Rod hasn't taken a leak in the green monster yet...
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/39/GodfreyKneller-IsaacNewton-1689.jpg
Compared to this guy A-Rod might as well be Barack Obama... yet if this guy were ever to come back to life, there would be billions of people lining up to pick his brains.
JeterRodriguezSheff
03-19-09, 03:08 PM
What if their Manny is our A-rod?
JavyVazquezIsSick
03-19-09, 03:18 PM
What if Manny is A-Rod?
JeterRodriguezSheff
03-19-09, 03:27 PM
x-defense+clutchness=Y+Steroids
DaSh 1s
03-19-09, 03:51 PM
Another Manny thread! Joy.
BBombers85
03-19-09, 04:29 PM
Who calls their rod manny?!
DEADSOX
03-19-09, 04:53 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/39/GodfreyKneller-IsaacNewton-1689.jpg
Compared to this guy A-Rod might as well be Barack Obama... yet if this guy were ever to come back to life, there would be billions of people lining up to pick his brains.
This man is my hero, he is the greatest genius of all time imo.
Sheffield
03-19-09, 05:40 PM
Interesting question - probably should be a thread....
lol, you're right!
Sheffield
03-19-09, 05:42 PM
Compared to this guy A-Rod might as well be Barack Obama... yet if this guy were ever to come back to life, there would be billions of people lining up to pick his brains.
I don't get it...
This thread strikes me as ultimately derived from a desire to have Manny-like nonsenes occur to the Yankees for publicity and comic-relief. Basically, the thread-maker is jealous of the attention that Manny got while w/ the Sox and wants that kind of thing for the Yankees.
A suggestion: if you want drama and humor, watch a sitcom.
The media has created this nonsensical equation of the baseball season with narrative. That "narrative" is not reflective of reality and is concocted to sell. Get over it and realize that these are actually just a bunch of real-life dudes playing a sport.
wow. got kinda riled up there. lol
TheInfallibleOne
03-19-09, 10:02 PM
Who calls their rod manny?!
flymick...
If only we had him back! With the pitching we've got this year ...
A-Rod and A staff, they would comfort me! ;)
sweet_lou_14
03-19-09, 11:45 PM
I don't think A-Rod and Manny have that much in common. I don't think there is any significant overlap between the specific list of negative attributes commonly associated with each of the two players. (For example, as has been said above, A-Rod has never quit on his team.)
However, I do think there is a case to be made that "A-Rod is our Manny," in this respect. For both players, there is a sizeable portion of the fan base, along with key members of the organization and even teammates, who simply don't care for the player as an individual, but do their best to overlook everything they dislike about him because of the numbers he can put up on the field.
My sense is that there is a much larger contingent in the New York fan base that's willing to say "screw it, even though he's a great player, I wish this guy wasn't on our team" than there was in Boston. And a much, MUCH smaller contingent in New York who are enthusiastic fans of A-Rod as an individual, as opposed to the huge following Manny had in Boston right up until the people who tell Red Sox Nation what to think changed their story about their star player. Also, it should be pointed out that the Boston media defended and coddled Manny until the last few months of his time in Boston, whereas the New York media has been carving A-Rod up since day one.
But from an organizational perspective, I think the teams are in the same position. IMHO, the Yankees front office would jump if they had a chance to rid themselves of A-Rod and his contract at this point, just as the Red Sox tried to get rid of Manny just about every year since the new ownership came in.
Rocketbooster
03-20-09, 07:24 AM
I don't think A-Rod and Manny have that much in common. I don't think there is any significant overlap between the specific list of negative attributes commonly associated with each of the two players. (For example, as has been said above, A-Rod has never quit on his team.)
However, I do think there is a case to be made that "A-Rod is our Manny," in this respect. For both players, there is a sizeable portion of the fan base, along with key members of the organization and even teammates, who simply don't care for the player as an individual, but do their best to overlook everything they dislike about him because of the numbers he can put up on the field.
My sense is that there is a much larger contingent in the New York fan base that's willing to say "screw it, even though he's a great player, I wish this guy wasn't on our team" than there was in Boston. And a much, MUCH smaller contingent in New York who are enthusiastic fans of A-Rod as an individual, as opposed to the huge following Manny had in Boston right up until the people who tell Red Sox Nation what to think changed their story about their star player. Also, it should be pointed out that the Boston media defended and coddled Manny until the last few months of his time in Boston, whereas the New York media has been carving A-Rod up since day one.
But from an organizational perspective, I think the teams are in the same position. IMHO, the Yankees front office would jump if they had a chance to rid themselves of A-Rod and his contract at this point, just as the Red Sox tried to get rid of Manny just about every year since the new ownership came in.
I really can't agree with the premise of the post. First, I think this is a little dramatic, at least for Alex. I don't believe anything I read in the media in regards to Alex and his relationship with his teammates because they simply have no motivation for revealing the truth - his teammates basically like him, as weird as they may think he is. Of course maybe a few people dislike Alex, but then, there is no person in the world that is liked by everyone. I won't get into the organization's feelings about Alex because, again,. we are getting our info from an unreliable media that has an agenda with regards to this player.
there is a sizeable portion of the fan base, along with key members of the organization and even teammates, who simply don't care for the player as an individual, but do their best to overlook everything they dislike about him because of the numbers he can put up on the field.
Also, if the Yankees would want to dump Alex, it would basically be because of the contract. The Red Sox wanted to dump Manny because he was truly becoming a problem ON the field - there is a big difference.
TheoShmeo
03-20-09, 07:29 AM
That means we can have two WS titles in the next few years?
As a Sox fan, that was my first thought.
sweet_lou_14
03-20-09, 09:29 AM
I really can't agree with the premise of the post. First, I think this is a little dramatic, at least for Alex. I don't believe anything I read in the media in regards to Alex and his relationship with his teammates because they simply have no motivation for revealing the truth - his teammates basically like him, as weird as they may think he is.
Actually, I think the opposite is true. The players have no motivation to reveal the truth about any issues they have with Alex personally. They know they need his production, and I'm guessing they realize he's a great team player between the lines, so they are not going to stir up a storm if they can avoid it. This is precisely at the heart of the (small, thin) parallel to be drawn between A-Rod and Manny.
Of course maybe a few people dislike Alex, but then, there is no person in the world that is liked by everyone. I won't get into the organization's feelings about Alex because, again,. we are getting our info from an unreliable media that has an agenda with regards to this player.
If you can honestly watch Brian Cashman talk about A-Rod without reading his personal opinion of A-Rod all over his face, I think you're intentionally choosing to overlook the obvious.
Also, if the Yankees would want to dump Alex, it would basically be because of the contract. The Red Sox wanted to dump Manny because he was truly becoming a problem ON the field - there is a big difference.
I agree with all of this. However I think it's important to talk about what it means to say "it would basically be because of the contract." Part of it is the obvious stuff that no player should be given 10 years at $30M per year when there isn't even a second bidder, etc. But part of it is that the justification for the huge dollars was predicated on the marketing value of a "clean" player chasing down the home run record. If I were the Yankees I would be livid, absolutely rip-s**t livid to learn just one year later that the player's marketing value is now completely and permanently trashed. Compound that with the possibility that he's not going to be nearly as durable as they all thought, and it's pretty bad news.
Everybody has nine more years to figure out how to try to make things work. But I would bet anything that at least right now, thinking about A-Rod makes the Yankees brass' collective stomachs turn.
JL25and3
03-20-09, 09:34 AM
If you can honestly watch Brian Cashman talk about A-Rod without reading his personal opinion of A-Rod all over his face, I think you're intentionally choosing to overlook the obvious.I agree with this. It's got nothing to do with media agenda; Cashman's been pretty obvious.
sweet_lou_14
03-20-09, 09:35 AM
A-Rod and A staff, they would comfort me! ;)
On a lighter note, I have to say that this little quip is brilliant. :)
If you can honestly watch Brian Cashman talk about A-Rod without reading his personal opinion of A-Rod all over his face, I think you're intentionally choosing to overlook the obvious.
I don't know about much else but this much I agree with totally and honestly I can't blame Cashman too much for the way things have been going down.
pumpkin.pie
03-31-09, 01:28 AM
A-Rod and A staff, they would comfort me! ;)
Ha ha ha! :roflmao:
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