View Full Version : The Official 2009 Cody Ransom Performance Thread
Discuss your favorite player named Cody Ransom here.
No off the field stuff. Only performance.
He probably has the inside track for the utility infielders job, has a little bit of pop off the bench. I have no problem with starting the season with him on the team.
Anyone have any data on his how middle infield defense rates?
He seems to make all of the ordinary plays but I'm concerned about his ability to handle 2B.
dabomb2045
03-05-09, 10:39 AM
Looks like he's gonna be our everyday 3B for awhile.....yuck
stephsamps
03-05-09, 11:28 AM
Looks like he's gonna be our everyday 3B for awhile.....yuck
Well, if he's the best athlete on the team, we should have nothing to worry about ;).
I know he won't hit like Alex, but his fielding should be OK. I think Chad Jennings posted a while back that he was a better fielder than given credit for. He might not hit for average, but he does have some pop.
If Gardner is for real, then this becomes the weak link in the lineup.
Eric Duncan, anyone???:eek:
cyhughes22
03-05-09, 04:36 PM
I know he won't hit like Alex, but his fielding should be OK. I think Chad Jennings posted a while back that he was a better fielder than given credit for. He might not hit for average, but he does have some pop.
If Gardner is for real, then this becomes the weak link in the lineup.
Eric Duncan, anyone???:eek:
Honestly, if Ransom is really anemic with the bat they should see what Duncan can do. I know that seems desperate but the trade market is not going to be kind to us. Other teams will smell blood and we'll be raped for anyone of any real ability.
Wow, JDP with the insanely timed thread. Or should I say - conspicuously timed thread? JDP - were you anywhere near A-Rod's hip recently? Alibi?
Wow, JDP with the insanely timed thread. Or should I say - conspicuously timed thread? JDP - were you anywhere near A-Rod's hip recently? Alibi?
JDPNYY is always ahead of the curve.
Yankee Fan in Boston
03-05-09, 08:54 PM
Honestly, if Ransom is really anemic with the bat they should see what Duncan can do. I know that seems desperate but the trade market is not going to be kind to us. Other teams will smell blood and we'll be raped for anyone of any real ability.
Duncan has been anemic in the minors, and really isn't a third baseman. I think Ransom is a better option - and I am sure Cashman is working on finding others.
CT-Yankee
03-05-09, 09:21 PM
I don't think he would hurt in the short term. I liked the fire Ransom had last year and he can be that role player they have lacked in recent years. Some good D and an occasional key hit. The lineup should be solid if Matsui and Posada can hit. Who hits cleanup? Matsui?
Pitching has to dominate for the Yanks to win anyway.
Ransom can also steal some bases
stephsamps
03-05-09, 10:06 PM
Honestly, if Ransom is really anemic with the bat they should see what Duncan can do. I know that seems desperate but the trade market is not going to be kind to us. Other teams will smell blood and we'll be raped for anyone of any real ability.
LOL I thought you meant Shelly Duncan for a second there and the visuals going through my mind were quite entertaining!
Eric Duncan wasn't invited to Spring Training this year, but I wonder if that will change.
Honestly, if Ransom is really anemic with the bat they should see what Duncan can do. I know that seems desperate but the trade market is not going to be kind to us. Other teams will smell blood and we'll be raped for anyone of any real ability.
are you suggesting duncan for third base?
Rocketbooster
03-08-09, 10:20 AM
http://www.northjersey.com/sports/yankees/OConnor_Yankee_haunted_by_brush_with_death.html?c=y&page=1
Not on the field, but wow!
Cody Ransom, in his only year in the majors as a Yankee,
BA: .302
OBP: .400
SLG: .651
OPS+: 170.
Guy's even better than Manny!
Cody Ransom, in his only year in the majors as a Yankee,
BA: .302
OBP: .400
SLG: .651
OPS+: 170.
Guy's even better than Manny!
as a backup, he should be ok.
Hobbes40
03-08-09, 01:39 PM
http://www.northjersey.com/sports/yankees/OConnor_Yankee_haunted_by_brush_with_death.html?c=y&page=1
Not on the field, but wow!
That's a sad story :(
Hope he gets his shot this year as a utility player.
Rocketbooster
03-08-09, 02:52 PM
That's a sad story :(
Hope he gets his shot this year as a utility player.
Me, too. He's going to get exposed playing regularly for a month or so, so I hope the Yanks pick someone up. A good utility player is quite valuable - I hope Ransom turns into that because I am a bit skeptical of him.
BxBomber44
03-08-09, 04:48 PM
He probably has the inside track for the utility infielders job, has a little bit of pop off the bench. I have no problem with starting the season with him on the team.
This post was from weeks ago, now meet our starting 3B ... I think he may raise some eyebrows though.
themgmt
03-09-09, 10:22 AM
JDPNYY is always ahead of the curve.
So you can't hit a breaking ball?
I think Cody should be ok for a few weeks, just don't expect anything near last year.
Letting him take the everyday job until A-Rod gets back is much more preferred than letting some other team hold us for ransom.
roblyo33
03-09-09, 07:25 PM
Letting him take the everyday job until A-Rod gets back is much more preferred than letting some other team hold us for ransom.
Does that mean we would be double ransomed???
ThePinStripes
03-09-09, 07:28 PM
Does that mean we would be double ransomed???
No, it means we'd be ransomed if we do and ransomed if we don't :-rofl-:
hardrain
03-09-09, 07:30 PM
Letting him take the everyday job until A-Rod gets back is much more preferred than letting some other team hold us for ransom.
exactly ...with the pitching the Yanks have, starting and bullpen, they will be fine. Ransom can hold it down for a month or so.
Young Steinbrenner
03-10-09, 04:44 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FNqHjq7lu0&feature=related
Cody Ransom jumps onto a 55 inch box
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7XZX946hWI&feature=related
Cody Ransom jumps onto a 60 inch box
the man can jump!
effdamets
03-10-09, 07:44 PM
the man can jump!
Unfortunately, his vertical leap isn't going to help his OPS.....
35Knucklecurve
03-11-09, 08:02 AM
http://www.northjersey.com/sports/yankees/OConnor_Yankee_haunted_by_brush_with_death.html?c=y&page=1
Not on the field, but wow!
Wow is right - I hadn't heard about this before. Makes me pull for the guy even more to have a decent shot at making it in MLB. I still think he's our best option until A-Rod returns. It's his job to lose or win.
exactly ...with the pitching the Yanks have, starting and bullpen, they will be fine. Ransom can hold it down for a month or so.
i feel the same way.
Ransom has no business being on a major league roster. It is going to be painful watching him at the plate until A-Rod comes back.
He might have no business starting for a major league club but as a bench and temporary replacement utility IF he's really pretty much as good as they come. Any better and he'd be a starter.
NelsonMuntz
03-24-09, 09:00 PM
He might have no business starting for a major league club but as a bench and temporary replacement utility IF he's really pretty much as good as they come. Any better and he'd be a starter.
I just deleted my post. It's not worth getting into. I just don't think Ransom is a legitimate major league player.
themgmt
03-24-09, 09:07 PM
I just deleted my post. It's not worth getting into. I just don't think Ransom is a legitimate major league player.
By what standards?
NelsonMuntz
03-24-09, 09:21 PM
By what standards?
He's an offensive blackhole.
He's an offensive blackhole.
By what standards? He's career 100OPS+ batter at the majors even accounting for regression he should bat to 85~95 OPS+ easily. That's below average (by definition of OPS+), but that's not a blackhole.
Jose Molina's 51 and Melky's 68 in 2008 would be blackholes.
NelsonMuntz
03-24-09, 09:36 PM
By what standards? He's career 100OPS+ batter at the majors even accounting for regression he should bat to 85~95 OPS+ easily. That's below average (by definition of OPS+), but that's not a blackhole.
Jose Molina's 51 and Melky's 68 in 2008 would be blackholes.
His career minor league OPS is .748. Melky's career minor league OPS is actually higher than Ransom's. Ransom's career major league OPS is pretty awful aside from his flukey 30 games at the end of last season.
primetime714
03-24-09, 09:54 PM
I don't expect a whole lot out of Ransom, but I think he could reasonably give us: .240 BA .330 OBP .380 SLG
Far from spectacular, but so long as we don't have too many guys slumping in our lineup that should be enough for to at the very least get by without A-Rod and if our pitching is performing the way they can well then it won't really matter what we get out of Ransom.
themgmt
03-24-09, 11:52 PM
His career minor league OPS is .748. Melky's career minor league OPS is actually higher than Ransom's. Ransom's career major league OPS is pretty awful aside from his flukey 30 games at the end of last season.
And his last three seasons at AAA he has had an OPS over .820. Melky had an awful season at AAA in his only full season there. Let's be realistic.
If Ransom had 600 ABs he'd probably hit .250 with 25 HRs with a .330 OBP. If Melky could do that he'd still have a job.
TheInfallibleOne
03-24-09, 11:57 PM
This thread expires May 2009.
If Ransom had 600 ABs he'd probably hit .250 with 25 HRs with a .330 OBP. If Melky could do that he'd still have a job.
Whoa. 25 HRs as a middle infielder w/ great defense? If he hit that, then he'd have a full-time job somewhere. I guarantee you that.
Whoa. 25 HRs as a middle infielder w/ great defense? If he hit that, then he'd have a full-time job somewhere. I guarantee you that.
Ransom is average defender, + or - depending on exactly where in the IF.
And yes, he is ALMOST good enough to get a full time job somewhere.
themgmt
03-25-09, 08:52 AM
Whoa. 25 HRs as a middle infielder w/ great defense? If he hit that, then he'd have a full-time job somewhere. I guarantee you that.
Great Defense? By what standards? If he did and could hit for average he'd be starting somewhere. He's improved the last 4 years but he's never hit for average or had a high enough OBP where it translates to a starting position at the ML level. He is very much on the cusp though. He would absolutely be starting if he could put up a better OBP/higher BA. He can't so he's not.
NelsonMuntz
03-25-09, 09:04 AM
This thread expires May 2009.
From your lips to God's ears.
aeromac76
03-25-09, 09:21 AM
This thread expires May 2009.
I am hoping we move the expiration date up to late April 2009.
I still think Cashman is being dangerously optimistic if he thinks that Yankees can get replacement-level offense and defense from Ransom for 6 weeks and suffer little in the standings.
themgmt
03-25-09, 04:32 PM
Ransom definitely won't be replacement level at 3B, maybe middle infield. Cano and Jeter have to pick up the slack.
NelsonMuntz
03-25-09, 08:24 PM
I still think Cashman is being dangerously optimistic if he thinks that Yankees can get replacement-level offense and defense from Ransom for 6 weeks and suffer little in the standings.
+1...
YESSIR!
03-25-09, 08:44 PM
With the way Berroa is hitting I'm surprised there's not more talk of him getting a shot at 3rd. His Spring numbers are pretty damn good and he couldn't be much worse than Ransom regardless.
hardrain
03-25-09, 08:47 PM
With the way Berroa is hitting I'm surprised there's not more talk of him getting a shot at 3rd. His Spring numbers are pretty damn good and he couldn't be much worse than Ransom regardless.
Borroa is horribly defensively. He'll give back any offense with his anvil glove and lack of range. Playing him will be a disaster.
YESSIR!
03-25-09, 08:53 PM
Borroa is horribly defensively. He'll give back any offense with his anvil glove and lack of range. Playing him will be a disaster.
Oh. .
With the way Berroa is hitting I'm surprised there's not more talk of him getting a shot at 3rd. His Spring numbers are pretty damn good and he couldn't be much worse than Ransom regardless.
Berroa is so bad defensively people really have no idea where to put him.
I mean, you can't exactly make someone a DH when he's still in AA.
Ok... so why are both of our backup infielders not plus defenders? Isn't that in the job description?
YESSIR!
03-25-09, 09:09 PM
I didn't realize his defense was so terrible. I've only seen him in a few ST games and he seemed capable.
hardrain
03-25-09, 09:14 PM
Ok... so why are both of our backup infielders not plus defenders? Isn't that in the job description?
The backup infielder should be Ramiro Pena...he is a superb defensive guy...
hellonewman
03-25-09, 09:22 PM
Ransom is average defender, + or - depending on exactly where in the IF.
And yes, he is ALMOST good enough to get a full time job somewhere.Then why did it take him so long to get a part-time job anywhere?
Then why did it take him so long to get a part-time job anywhere?
Because nobody actually wants to trade for a part timer and the Astros just didn't need an utility infielder?
No idea if that's what actually happened. But there are a lot of reasons why marginal players dont' get a chance.
primetime714
03-25-09, 10:05 PM
The backup infielder should be Ramiro Pena...he is a superb defensive guy...
Pena needs regular ABs in AAA. If Jeter goes down I think he'll get the call because of his defense, but for the time being (i.e. until ARod gets back) Berroa is the guy.
Berroa is bad defensively but he's a lot better defensively than Betemit was last year. I know that's not saying much, but given the way he has hit the ball this spring he'll be a serviceable utility infielder.
hellonewman
03-25-09, 10:05 PM
Because nobody actually wants to trade for a part timer and the Astros just didn't need an utility infielder?
No idea if that's what actually happened. But there are a lot of reasons why marginal players dont' get a chance.Except it wasn't a case of the Astros holding him down for years and years. He was only in their organization for 2 seasons.
He's been in 5 different organizations in 11 years in the pros. He's 33. Surely he would have at least stuck for a few years on somebody's bench by now if he were any good.
DaSh 1s
03-25-09, 10:40 PM
Except it wasn't a case of the Astros holding him down for years and years. He was only in their organization for 2 seasons.
He's been in 5 different organizations in 11 years in the pros. He's 33. Surely he would have at least stuck for a few years on somebody's bench by now if he were any good.
How many clubs did Pena go through before assuming a role. Tigers Red Sox Yankees and who else?
THEBOSS84
03-26-09, 10:14 AM
I really don't like the decision to use Ransom for the first 40 or so games. It bothers me to no end.
hellonewman
03-26-09, 03:02 PM
How many clubs did Pena go through before assuming a role. Tigers Red Sox Yankees and who else?Carlos Pena was a starter in the majors at age 24-26, had 85 MLB homers by age 27, was considered a prime defensive first baseman during that time, and now, 2 full years after coming into his own, he's still more than 2 years younger than Ransom.
Terrible comp.
JavyVazquezIsSick
04-06-09, 05:27 PM
Not good defensively. Discuss.
MTYankee23
04-06-09, 05:44 PM
Not good defensively. Discuss.
He also had a brutal at bat after the Yankees had cut the lead to 6-3 and had a runner on 2nd with 0 outs. I'm a little disappointed they didn't pinch hit Swisher there. I feel as though they almost have too much confidence in Ransom.
StatenIslandYankee
04-06-09, 05:44 PM
Can't swing. Can't field. What CAN he do?
MTYankee23
04-06-09, 05:46 PM
Can't swing. Can't field. What CAN he do?
Nothing. Those that don't appreciate A-Rod as a player will certainly be doing so by mid-April. Also, we didn't claim Dallas MacPherson when we had the chance.
StatenIslandYankee
04-06-09, 06:04 PM
Nothing. Those that don't appreciate A-Rod as a player will certainly be doing so by mid-April. Also, we didn't claim Dallas MacPherson when we had the chance.We should have.
Yankees1962
04-06-09, 06:28 PM
Nothing. Those that don't appreciate A-Rod as a player will certainly be doing so by mid-April. Also, we didn't claim Dallas MacPherson when we had the chance.
MacPherson is still unsigned which speaks for itself.
Ransom had a solid knock that was just flat out robbed by Mora.
He wasn't really bad defensively either... we just need to realize ARod is way above average defensively.
yankeesrule2000
04-06-09, 09:46 PM
Hurry up Arod, get better!
yankees246
04-06-09, 10:06 PM
Hurry up Arod, get better!
Not for nothing, but I got used to see him in the batting order. :(
NelsonMuntz
04-06-09, 10:16 PM
Hate to say I told you so but ... oh who am I kidding ... told ya :p. Ransom has no business being in the major leagues.
ThunderFan
04-06-09, 10:19 PM
Ransom had a solid knock that was just flat out robbed by Mora.
He wasn't really bad defensively either... we just need to realize ARod is way above average defensively.He wasn't bad? He made 2 awful plays that both led to runs. Without his D they probably win the game.
NYYDragoon
04-06-09, 10:20 PM
It's sad, because he looked passable in ST. But today was a total trainwreck. I'm hoping he'll never pull any of those defensive disasters again.
How many more years do we need to put up with Cody Ransom's crap?
The blessing in disguise in action.
Yeah Cashman, it won't hurt us to give Ransom 40 starts this season...
ThunderFan
04-06-09, 10:33 PM
Yeah Cashman, it won't hurt us to give Ransom 40 starts this season...Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. AKA Cashman and never getting any depth.
TheInfallibleOne
04-06-09, 11:47 PM
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. AKA Cashman and never getting any depth.
fighting a losing battle. who would you get that would play so well we would hardly notice arod missing?
TheYankee
04-07-09, 12:19 AM
Look, obviously Ransom is just a stop-gag. It's kind of silly, however, to start banging our heads against a wall in disgust.
TheYankee
04-07-09, 12:19 AM
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. AKA Cashman and never getting any depth.wtf. This isn't basketball. What do you expect? A roster of 25 all-stars?
Ransom probably shouldn't have dropped that ball. But both plays were borderline and the infield was playing shallow both times.
There is a reason even gold glovers at 3b only have ~.960 fielding % (Cody .959 in minors, 900 in majors over a MUCH smaller sample), it's a damn hard position to field. It's not called the hot corner for nothing.
I'll even say something crazy, today, Ransom made better contact with the ball than Texeira. I absolutely do not expect this to continue but yeah, for tonight, Ransom was the better hitter.
I don't like seeing Ransom at 3b more than anyone else, but better short term rentals are hard to find. Players significantly better than Ransom probably have starting jobs elsewhere.
TheYankee
04-07-09, 12:29 AM
Ransom probably shouldn't have dropped that ball. But both plays were borderline and the infield was playing shallow both times.
There is a reason even gold glovers at 3b only have ~.960 fielding %, it's a damn hard position to field. It's not called the hot corner for nothing.I remember back during my AAU days, my coach thought I was a pretty good fielder from my second base position. I liked to think I was too. We had troubles all year with our third baseman playing defense, so my coach asked if I'd give it a shot. I said sure. I made three errors in three innings. I didn't even have to ask. Coach told me I could go back to second. Man, I hated playing third.
ThePinStripes
04-07-09, 01:54 AM
Ransom probably shouldn't have dropped that ball. But both plays were borderline and the infield was playing shallow both times.
There is a reason even gold glovers at 3b only have ~.960 fielding % (Cody .959 in minors, 900 in majors over a MUCH smaller sample), it's a damn hard position to field. It's not called the hot corner for nothing.
I'll even say something crazy, today, Ransom made better contact with the ball than Texeira. I absolutely do not expect this to continue but yeah, for tonight, Ransom was the better hitter.
I don't like seeing Ransom at 3b more than anyone else, but better short term rentals are hard to find. Players significantly better than Ransom probably have starting jobs elsewhere.
Players worse than Ransom have starting jobs else. It's just blamegame time.
Tehasguard
04-07-09, 05:13 AM
I'm going to give this guy a break,
I mean he only played in 20 games so far ....wait only 1 game
let's relax...
Look, obviously Ransom is just a stop-gag. It's kind of silly, however, to start banging our heads against a wall in disgust.
He hasn't stopped me from gagging.
Ransom had a solid knock that was just flat out robbed by Mora.
He wasn't really bad defensively either... we just need to realize ARod is way above average defensively.
Is he? UZR, PMR, and Plus/Minus don't usually rate him very highly.
Shanghai Bob
04-07-09, 11:24 AM
Ransom's defense worried me most about last night game. There is mountains of data to support CC and Tex will be just fine so I can live with their struggles. BUT Cody's only job at third is to NOT mess up on defense (he doesn't even have to be spectacular there） while ARod is rehabbing. He spectacularly failed in that regard.
TheYankee
04-07-09, 11:26 AM
He hasn't stopped me from gagging.Sure. Me either. But to freak out after one bad performance from a AAA guy is a bit over the top, IMO.
Yankee Tripper
04-07-09, 11:36 AM
Ransom's defense worried me most about last night game. There is mountains of data to support CC and Tex will be just fine so I can live with their struggles. BUT Cody's only job at third is to NOT mess up on defense (he doesn't even have to be spectacular there） while ARod is rehabbing. He spectacularly failed in that regard.
He's not a 3B by trade. He came up as a SS/2B with the Giants originally. I expect him (or Pena when he draws the start) to be PH for quite a bit until A-Rod returns.
YESSIR!
04-07-09, 11:37 AM
Meh. One game may not be much, but it's enough for me to know I've seen enough.
He actually hit the ball really well in his first 2 plate appearances, 1 was an easy double that Mora made an amazing play on, and he's normally a good defensive 3B. he'll do better
Shanghai Bob
04-07-09, 11:41 AM
He's not a 3B by trade. He came up as a SS/2B with the Giants originally. I expect him (or Pena when he draws the start) to be PH for quite a bit until A-Rod returns.
Shouldn't a SS or 2B player be able to handle 3B just fine? It's a lot of less ground to cover ....
Another game like this and we might see Pena get a shot at third...
Shouldn't a SS or 2B player be able to handle 3B just fine? It's a lot of less ground to cover ....
Another game like this and we might see Pena get a shot at third...
Actually, the adjustment from SS or 2B to 3B is said to be pretty difficult. Supposedly, it's a reaction time thing, the ball gets to a 3rd baseman before they have as much chance to see it coming. But someone who's actually played could probably explain it better, it's just what I've heard.
Yankee Tripper
04-07-09, 11:53 AM
Shouldn't a SS or 2B player be able to handle 3B just fine? It's a lot of less ground to cover ....
Another game like this and we might see Pena get a shot at third...
Actually, the adjustment from SS or 2B to 3B is said to be pretty difficult. Supposedly, it's a reaction time thing, the ball gets to a 3rd baseman before they have as much chance to see it coming. But someone who's actually played could probably explain it better, it's just what I've heard.
No you explained it quite well.
YESSIR!
04-07-09, 11:57 AM
Actually, the adjustment from SS or 2B to 3B is said to be pretty difficult. Supposedly, it's a reaction time thing, the ball gets to a 3rd baseman before they have as much chance to see it coming. But someone who's actually played could probably explain it better, it's just what I've heard.
Hence the reason for it being called "the hot corner."
Shanghai Bob
04-07-09, 11:58 AM
Actually, the adjustment from SS or 2B to 3B is said to be pretty difficult. Supposedly, it's a reaction time thing, the ball gets to a 3rd baseman before they have as much chance to see it coming. But someone who's actually played could probably explain it better, it's just what I've heard.
I can accept that argument.
Then I do have to wonder why we couldn't find a good native defensive 3B player in the minors.....For the few weeks until ARod comes back i'd rather have solid defense than marginally better offense.
Yankee Tripper
04-07-09, 12:09 PM
I can accept that argument.
Then I do have to wonder why we couldn't find a good native defensive 3B player in the minors.....For the few weeks until ARod comes back i'd rather have solid defense than marginally better offense.
Well for one there is no 3B of the future in the Yankees system at this point and for two Cody is the ulitly IF guy who is capable at 3B in a backup role and can cover all 4 IF positions if need be but may be exposed over a month of starting.
As others have said it was just one game. He's not bad defensively but he is out of position playing 3B. Berroa or Pena will likely be the same as both are also middle infielders by trade.
The alternative is taking a chance on a 3B who was cut near the end of ST who may or may not be better than what NYY already has or getting less than fair value by trading some excess RHP for a stop-gap 3B until Alex returns. Obviously Cashman doesn't think he can work out a fair trade and that the waiver wire options aren't as good as Cody, Pena or Berroa.
Cody Ransom performing the way everyone (but Cashman) expected Cody Ransom to perform doesn't just hurt the Yankees in April. I'm worried they will put pressure on Alex to say he is ready and 100% so he can come back as soon as possible.
yankswn23
04-07-09, 12:48 PM
I was at this game, he made the first tough play to throw home and get the runner, the next tough play he made was diving and knocking a ball down that saved a run, the only miscue he had was when he backhanded the ball and went to step on third before he had the ball in the glove..he didnt play a bad third base, the fact was too many runners were on base..not cody ransom's play at third..
Ransom was pretty bad yesterday and made us even more excited for the return of this:
http://yankees.lhblogs.com/files/2008/12/alex-rodriguez-madge-11268-12.jpg
JavyVazquezIsSick
04-07-09, 12:52 PM
There is really nothing I see from Ransom that makes me think he is a good fielder, I don't know where everyone is getting that misconception from.
justtxyank
04-07-09, 12:56 PM
That picture is so creepy. I like Alex the baseball player, but I'll admit to strongly disliking his persona.
hellonewman
04-07-09, 01:47 PM
fighting a losing battle. who would you get that would play so well we would hardly notice arod missing?Classic strawman. Nobody expects the fill-in(s) to approach Alex's level of production. The idea is that bringing in a lefty to job-share might at least have given the Yankees some platoon flexibility and mitigated at least a little the effects of having a scrub at the position. Or, going back further, the Yankees might have spent a little more offseason energy lining up a better utility infielder than 33-year-old career minor leaguer Cody Ransom and his bellyful of guts and grit.
hellonewman
04-07-09, 01:49 PM
There is really nothing I see from Ransom that makes me think he is a good fielder, I don't know where everyone is getting that misconception from.It's a mystery to me too. :dunno:
ThunderFan
04-07-09, 05:14 PM
wtf. This isn't basketball. What do you expect? A roster of 25 all-stars?Why does someone parrot this exact quote whenever anyone brings up the pathetic depth the yankees have had for years now? I guess guys who are major league caliber players = all stars...
There is really nothing I see from Ransom that makes me think he is a good fielder, I don't know where everyone is getting that misconception from.
He can jump really high.
Classic strawman. Nobody expects the fill-in(s) to approach Alex's level of production. The idea is that bringing in a lefty to job-share might at least have given the Yankees some platoon flexibility and mitigated at least a little the effects of having a scrub at the position. Or, going back further, the Yankees might have spent a little more offseason energy lining up a better utility infielder than 33-year-old career minor leaguer Cody Ransom and his bellyful of guts and grit.
Lefty to job-share 3b? heh? wehat?
There is a few that throws right and bats left, but I don't think there has ever been a true lefty 3b.
Just to be sure, Cody Ransom has a 102 OPS+ in his major league service record, it's not great and probably slightly inflated by 2008, but seriously, that's solid for a defensively demanding position even for a starter.
goin for 27
04-07-09, 06:43 PM
Why does someone parrot this exact quote whenever anyone brings up the pathetic depth the yankees have had for years now? I guess guys who are major league caliber players = all stars...
Exactly. I will never get on Ransom's play. It is not his fault, he should not be on the field. Cashman really overlooked this as a potential issue.
hellonewman
04-07-09, 06:44 PM
Lefty to job-share 3b? heh? wehat?
There is a few that throws right and bats left, but I don't think there has ever been a true lefty 3b.Did I really have to specify "lefty hitter"?
"wehat" indeed.
YankeesAce4Life
04-07-09, 06:47 PM
There is really nothing I see from Ransom that makes me think he is a good fielder, I don't know where everyone is getting that misconception from.
DING DING DING...we have a winner...the guy is a bonafide Minor League player...how Cashman is banking that he can help this team in anyway is mind boggling.
Did I really have to specify "lefty hitter"?
"wehat" indeed.
You're crazy either way. This is an exhaustive list of left/switch hitting 3bs with 100+OPS+ between 2004 and 2008 with at least 50ABs.
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/6683/3b100ops.jpg (http://img7.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3b100ops.jpg)
So, which one do you want? Which one can you even get? Keep in mind Ransom has 102 career OPS+ in the majors.
All I've been getting out of most of this thread is we're totally spoiled by having ARod starting 3rd.
I think you guys are jumping on him like crazy for 1 game, it sounds like WFAN. He's a backup infielder who has some power. Getting someone competent to play only ONE month who is better than Ransom is tough
the_coach
04-07-09, 07:14 PM
That picture is so creepy. I like Alex the baseball player, but I'll admit to strongly disliking his persona.
Are you in the right thread? ;)
I think you guys are jumping on him like crazy for 1 game, it sounds like WFAN. He's a backup infielder who has some power. Getting someone competent to play only ONE month who is better than Ransom is tough
Hey you! The reasonable discussion thread is way over there by the toilets. Gets to steppin. This is the OFFICIAL 2009 Ransom thread.
hellonewman
04-07-09, 07:35 PM
You're crazy either way. This is an exhaustive list of left/switch hitting 3bs with 100+OPS+ between 2004 and 2008 with at least 50ABs.
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/6683/3b100ops.jpg
So, which one do you want? Which one can you even get? Keep in mind Ransom has 102 career OPS+ in the majors.Yes, with a 79 OPS+ versus righties. I'm guessing there are numerous scrub lefties who could exceed that and might be better at catching the ball too. To reference 1 scrub whose name has been tossed around, Dallas McPherson has a career 115+ OPS against righties.
All I've been getting out of most of this thread is we're totally spoiled by having ARod starting 3rd.Then you're not reading very carefully. No reasonable person expects A-Rod v2.0 from the next 3-6 weeks. That's no reason not to at least look at a minor move to mitigate the damage a little.
Even 79 OPS+ isn't really that low of a bar as far as 3b comes.
As for MacPherson in particular, personally, I think when you're released to make room for a scrub like this:
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/b/bonifem01.shtml?redir
You got serious issues... especially if you go unclaimed and unsigned a week later.
And yes, there is a reason. Namely we can only have 25 men on our roster. You want to say he could take Pena's spot. But then what utility infielder with defense can we find with a decent bat vs. righties? Of course there is also the issue with a long reliever. It's a tradeoff, and at some point it's just not worth the trouble.
hellonewman
04-07-09, 08:40 PM
And yes, there is a reason. Namely we can only have 25 men on our roster. You want to say he could take Pena's spot. But then what utility infielder with defense can we find with a decent bat vs. righties?In the scenario you describe, Ransom could be the UTIL infielder, coming off the bench if he's not in the lineup that day or sliding over from 3rd if he is.
I'll admit the optimal time to bring in a McPherson or other lefty scrub has passed, but because of 40-man issues, not 25-man ones. The Giese DFA was the best time to try it, but they burned that one on adding Pena and now there are no painless 40-man cut possibilities left, making it more difficult.
Still doesn't explain why the Yankees apparently decided way back in the fall that Ransom was their man at Utility and made no visible effort to upgrade all winter.
So who's the utility IF when opposition starts a lefty?
Ransom was good enough and roster spots precious enough that unless you get a significant upgrade on the cheap it just wasn't worth the trouble or money.
hellonewman
04-07-09, 09:57 PM
So who's the utility IF when opposition starts a lefty?I explained that in the previous post.
Ransom was good enoughAgree to disagree.
ransom is what he is. and that is currently the best option we have.
fellows
04-08-09, 07:17 AM
I heard Cashman say on Francesa's show that "with all due respect" Cody is a better fielder than Alex. I like Cash but can't see how he ever came to that conclusion.
Curmudgeon
04-08-09, 07:25 AM
Where is Miguel Cairo when you really need him?
OldYankeeFan
04-08-09, 07:42 AM
Talk about over reaction to one game where in fact he didn't play THAT bad (good play at the plate to prevent a run from scoring and robbed of a double). I just don't get it. He did fairly well when given the opportunity last year but some will correctly point out SSS. But if last year was a SSS, what is ONE game? From what I saw last year he's deserves the role he has. If he plays his way out of it fine, but that will take MUCH longer than ONE game to determine. In the mean time we have yet to lose a game because of Cody Ransom.
hellonewman
04-08-09, 01:03 PM
Talk about over reaction to one game where in fact he didn't play THAT bad (good play at the plate to prevent a run from scoring and robbed of a double). I just don't get it. He did fairly well when given the opportunity last year but some will correctly point out SSS. But if last year was a SSS, what is ONE game? From what I saw last year he's deserves the role he has. If he plays his way out of it fine, but that will take MUCH longer than ONE game to determine. In the mean time we have yet to lose a game because of Cody Ransom.Wrong. I've been saying he shouldn't be here since long before the season started. I'll say it again if he hits a grand slam tonight and makes 3 "Web gems."
OldYankeeFan
04-08-09, 03:32 PM
Wrong. I've been saying he shouldn't be here since long before the season started. I'll say it again if he hits a grand slam tonight and makes 3 "Web gems."Not wrong. Whether you agree with it or not, it's my opinion that the post game negative rhetoric surrounding Cody Ransom is way overblown and is in fact an over reaction to one game regardless of the fact you may not have wanted him here to begin with.
And it's just comical to believe that if he hit a grand slam and made 3 web jems yesterday we would have heard the "same amount of negative rhetoric" from you or anyone else regarding Ransom.
Yankee Tripper
04-08-09, 03:41 PM
Ransom's a minor league journeyman. He really shouldn't have a spot on a $200M roster. I wish him well, hope he plays reasonably solid D and runs into a few fastballs between now and when A-rod returns but I'm with hellonewman on this one.
hellonewman
04-08-09, 03:56 PM
Not wrong. Whether you agree with it or not, it's my opinion that the post game negative rhetoric surrounding Cody Ransom is way overblown and is in fact an over reaction to one game regardless of the fact you may not have wanted him here to begin with.I can't speak for every poster, but I know at least 3 of the posters in this thread who went after Ransom after the game (Nelson Muntz, Mark19, me) were critical of him well before opening day. That's not "overreaction to 1 game" no matter how you try to paint it.
And it's just comical to believe that if he hit a grand slam and made 3 web jems yesterday we would have heard the "same amount of negative rhetoric" from you or anyone else regarding Ransom.I might say something about being glad to be wrong for 1 night, but I'm certainly not going to bandwagon-jump and start saying he's good. Don't presume to tell me how I'm going to react.
THEBOSS84
04-08-09, 04:01 PM
Ransom's a minor league journeyman. He really shouldn't have a spot on a $200M roster. I wish him well, hope he plays reasonably solid D and runs into a few fastballs between now and when A-rod returns but I'm with hellonewman on this one.
I agree, and I had said this before opening day FWIW.
OldYankeeFan
04-08-09, 04:28 PM
OK, I'm in the minority here but I really don't care. To me whether or not he was a MiLB journeyman has little to do with his current qualification to take up a spot on our roster as a backup. That's the most used argument I have seen as to why he's not good enough to be here. Sorry but that's just NOT a good enough argument for me. I'd rather use the SSS from the 33 MLB games he played for us last year as to not be overly concerned with the fact that he is currently our backup infielder.
Don't get me wrong. I'm not a Ransom fan and I really don't care if he is replaced or not. I just don't think we are going to get that much better of a backup to make a guaranteed difference and some are getting their panties all bunched up over at best a negligible difference.
And no matter how many may disagree with me, it is still my opinion that the post game negative rhetoric surrounding Cody Ransom is way overblown.
Rocketbooster
04-08-09, 04:31 PM
OK, I'm in the minority here but I really don't care. To me whether or not he was a MiLB journeyman has little to do with his current qualification to take up a spot on our roster as a backup. That's the most used argument I have seen as to why he's not good enough to be here. Sorry but that's just NOT a good enough argument for me. I'd rather use the SSS from the 33 MLB games he played for us last year as to not to be overly concerned with the fact that he is currently our backup infielder.
Don't get me wrong. I'm not a Ransom fan and I really don't care if he is replaced or not. I just don't think we are going to get that much better of a backup to make a guaranteed difference and some are getting their panties all bunched up over at best a negligible difference.
And no matter how many may disagree with me, it is still my opinion that the post game negative rhetoric surrounding Cody Ransom is way overblown.
Right now, Ransom is not a backup - that's the problem. He's the everyday starting 3B until Alex returns. There have to be better options than him at 3rd - he really should be the utility infielder even now. I'm not going to make a stink about it at this point because the Yankees should be good enough to overcome Ransom's poor play, but I'm going to admit that I don't see him hitting above .240. That will be relatively good for him - I wouldn't be surprised if he hits .200, and that is unacceptable.
Yankee Tripper
04-08-09, 04:33 PM
I don't really think anyone holds anything against ransom. He is what he is. Most of just aren't expeting much and are just hoping for slightly better than replacement level play. If anything I think the resentment is at Cashman for not going out and getting a better utility IF in the off season for just such a case as prolonged injury to A-rod, Jeter or Cano. He didn't and gambled on no injuries to those 3 and lost.
Dont worry guys I'll be back soon and then we can sail away with the American League.
http://blogs.nbcsports.com/home/arod.jpg
Another at bat, another out. Why is he in the majors?
Please come back ASAP Arod.
shadyridr
04-11-09, 08:33 PM
I wasnt expecting much from Ransom offensively but hes been terrible in the field, has no range, and even made a bad baserunning blunder in the field yesterday. We may start seeing a bit more of Pena at 3B.
Shanghai Bob
04-11-09, 09:01 PM
My expectation from Ransom was good defense and just a little bit of offense. I have gotten neither.
Count me in for a little bit of Pena experiment. Like his glove.
Give Pena a chance. At least I can see some good defence.
Ynkcpt23
04-11-09, 09:19 PM
My expectation from Ransom was good defense and just a little bit of offense. I have gotten neither.
Count me in for a little bit of Pena experiment. Like his glove.
Mine too. Guess I'm a knucklehead, 'cause this guy can't do either apparently.
Ransom has done virtually nothing with the bat or the glove over his first five games. I know he realizes he only has 30 more days to make an impact and I know he is putting in the necessary work but he simply may not be talented enough to even be a mediocre stop-gap.
If nothing else, lets get a disposable but reliable glove. Jack Hannahan was sent to AAA by the A's. If nothing else, he'll give you a .320 OBP and superb defense.
ThunderFan
04-12-09, 12:38 AM
Give Pena a chance. At least I can see some good defence.Can't hurt to get another lefty bat in there against meche...
jimmykey2
04-12-09, 12:54 AM
Ransom has done virtually nothing with the bat or the glove over his first five games. I know he realizes he only has 30 more days to make an impact and I know he is putting in the necessary work but he simply may not be talented enough to even be a mediocre stop-gap.
If nothing else, lets get a disposable but reliable glove. Jack Hannahan was sent to AAA by the A's. If nothing else, he'll give you a .320 OBP and superb defense.
He hasn't hit, but he's made one bad play with the glove... which puts him with or below most of his teammates. Let's not go overboard in that direction. My issue with Ransom isn't the hitting as much as it is his inability to make productive outs. He has to do that if he's going to play everyday.
Jack Hannahan was pretty much the worst hitter in the AL last season to qualify for the batting title. Dead last in average, dead last in BA/RISP by 70 points, and 2nd to last in OPS by 2 points. We would need a better option than that.
ETA: I'm reading some of these comments... he hasn't been terrible in the field.
Shanghai Bob
04-12-09, 02:56 AM
He hasn't hit, but he's made one bad play with the glove... which puts him with or below most of his teammates. Let's not go overboard in that direction. My issue with Ransom isn't the hitting as much as it is his inability to make productive outs. He has to do that if he's going to play everyday.
Jack Hannahan was pretty much the worst hitter in the AL last season to qualify for the batting title. Dead last in average, dead last in BA/RISP by 70 points, and 2nd to last in OPS by 2 points. We would need a better option than that.
ETA: I'm reading some of these comments... he hasn't been terrible in the field.
Well completing a DP is also part of his defensive duties (although technically not a glove problem). Add to that his boneheaded running on the bases...it adds up.
We're just too spoiled by having all-stars at every position year in and year out. On any given day, we're likely to have 7 or 8 all-stars out of our 10 starters.
That's pretty sick.
.... Please come back ARod. Ransom is holding us for a bigger ransom than I expected and Obama isn't giving us a bailout.
fellows
04-12-09, 07:22 AM
He hasn't hit, but he's made one bad play with the glove... which puts him with or below most of his teammates. Let's not go overboard in that direction. My issue with Ransom isn't the hitting as much as it is his inability to make productive outs. He has to do that if he's going to play everyday.
Jack Hannahan was pretty much the worst hitter in the AL last season to qualify for the batting title. Dead last in average, dead last in BA/RISP by 70 points, and 2nd to last in OPS by 2 points. We would need a better option than that.
ETA: I'm reading some of these comments... he hasn't been terrible in the field.
I count at least two major screw ups. Clanged an easy force out that kept a rally going and led to runs in Baltimore, and last nights blown dp, where he couldn't get one out and cost Sabathia some pitches and could have been worse if not for CC pitching out of a jam. The Yankees could probably get away with him never getting another hit until Arod returns, but the poor D is a problem.
aeromac76
04-12-09, 07:28 AM
I never expected miracles from Cody. But he now has one hit in 5 games.
His defense has been shaky.
I am not saying we have any white horses ready to save us until Arod comes back. But I think we have seen enough to at least give Pena a start.
He cannot do any worse..
RollingWave
04-12-09, 07:36 AM
If all else fails, Teix for 3rd and Swisher 1st. we get no D either way, might as well have the bat.
Yankees1962
04-12-09, 07:39 AM
If all else fails, Teix for 3rd and Swisher 1st. we get no D either way, might as well have the bat.
This will never happen!
stazsanity
04-12-09, 08:01 AM
I never expected miracles from Cody. But he now has one hit in 5 games.
His defense has been shaky.
I am not saying we have any white horses ready to save us until Arod comes back. But I think we have seen enough to at least give Pena a start.
He cannot do any worse..
don't forget about his inability to hit balls to the right side of the infield to move runners or his base running blunders...
...i am completely with you- i don't expect miracles. i don't expect .300. heck, i don't expect .270 i do, however, expect fundamentally sound baseball.... doing the littel things to help a team win... like running the bases smart and moving runnners along when the situation calls for it...granted, it's only been five games and the rest of the lineup is producing so these errors haven't been as huge...but i hope this is just a funk and he can find at least some way to contribute.
Apparently Ransom is delusional because he thinks he's had good at bats.
YESSIR!
04-12-09, 12:39 PM
ARod cant come back soon enough. Ransom has been painful to watch. I use his ABs as an excuse to use the br, grab a beer, etc. So there's that at least.
Yankee Fan in Boston
04-12-09, 12:40 PM
Apparently Ransom is delusional because he thinks he's had good at bats.
it's all relative... for him, they might be
Ransom working on a nice 1 for 20
Cashman really showed off his flaws by insisting that 30 games of Ransom won't hurt us.
NelsonMuntz
04-12-09, 04:37 PM
Ransom working on a nice 1 for 20
Cashman really showed off his flaws by insisting that 30 games of Ransom won't hurt us.
Yeah I'm generally a big Cashman supporter but he definitely dropped the ball with the 3B situation.
JBursch23
04-12-09, 04:41 PM
It's only been 6 games and we're 3-3. If our bullpen can get 4 outs we're 4-2 with Ransom heading into TB.
He hasn't played well but our Starting Pitching is has had 4 straight quality starts and our offense is getting it done.
It's only been 6 games and we're 3-3. If our bullpen can get 4 outs we're 4-2 with Ransom heading into TB.
He hasn't played well but our Starting Pitching is has had 4 straight quality starts and our offense is getting it done.
Still, this isn't the NL, you can't give away ABs
You need to make the best of your situation and there are a dozen guys in AAA
or in free agency who can perform better than Ransom on both sides of the ball.
jimmykey2
04-12-09, 04:52 PM
Ransom working on a nice 1 for 20
Cashman really showed off his flaws by insisting that 30 games of Ransom won't hurt us.
Ransom has been terrible with the bat (I still think his defense has been fine), but you're assuming ownership was allowing him to add even the slightest bit of salary to the payoll. I have no proof of this, but I get the feeling they weren't.
Ransom has been terrible with the bat (I still think his defense has been fine), but you're assuming ownership was allowing him to add even the slightest bit of salary to the payoll. I have no proof of this, but I get the feeling they weren't.
Cashman wasn't constrained by payroll, he just got complacent.
There were many superior options available for virtually nothing but he decided to settle for someone who is predictably bad rather than roll the dice on a better temporary fix.
jimmykey2
04-12-09, 05:16 PM
Cashman wasn't constrained by payroll, he just got complacent.
There were many superior options available for virtually nothing but he decided to settle for someone who is predictably bad rather than roll the dice on a better temporary fix.
Are you sure about that? After the Teixeira signing, the only addition the Yankees made of any sort was the hardballing of Andy Pettitte.
If theres one kind of player you should never trust in baseball its the career minor leaguer who plays well in September one year, the Shane Spencers of the world. Thats what Ransom is.
We all know Ramiro Pena is due to go to AAA as soon as A-Rod gets back, having him sit on the bench and be a complete non factor on the team does nothing for him or for the yankees. Why not give him a start or two just to let him get his feet wet before A-Rod comes back and in the even that he gets hot then you can explore the idea of DFAing Ransom and keeping Pena as the utility infielder even though hes probably better suited to play everyday in AAA, but the one thing hes not suited for is not playing at all especially when the guy hes backing up is 1 for 20 and not playing solid defense.
matsui has two hits. ransom has one. ok, i know matsui has a track record. i know matsui is a proven hitter. the this season's sample size is the same. i'm don't have the same expectation for the two players.
but i also give our GM the credit for not overreacting to a guy only 6 games into the season. some may say that ransom is a AAA/AAAA player and you could well be right, but he is being given a shot to fill a hole for a while. that "shot" should not be ended after one week.
despite/inspite/with ransom we are 3-3 and could be 4-2 if not for a ⅓ inning bullpen collapse. having ransom playing third is not ideal but i'm sure this team can overcome it.
JL25and3
04-13-09, 09:01 AM
matsui has two hits. ransom has one. ok, i know matsui has a track record. i know matsui is a proven hitter. the this season's sample size is the same. i'm don't have the same expectation for the two players.
but i also give our GM the credit for not overreacting to a guy only 6 games into the season. some may say that ransom is a AAA/AAAA player and you could well be right, but he is being given a shot to fill a hole for a while. that "shot" should not be ended after one week.
despite/inspite/with ransom we are 3-3 and could be 4-2 if not for a ⅓ inning bullpen collapse. having ransom playing third is not ideal but i'm sure this team can overcome it.I agree, he shouldn't overreact 6 games into the season. But maybe he should have reacted before the season started.
JOBA RULES
04-13-09, 09:08 AM
for everyone who said we would be better without AROD...
1-20 enough said.
Rocketbooster
04-13-09, 09:49 AM
This is the one of the problems with Joe being an optimist and not a realist. He's always looking for the positive and, as such, just can not see what's right in front of him. He's bound and determined to play Ransom because he thinks he's had some bad luck (apparently he doesn't see the crappy swings and at-bats Cody's had, or the mediocre D)
NelsonMuntz
04-13-09, 09:57 AM
I agree, he shouldn't overreact 6 games into the season. But maybe he should have reacted before the season started.
+1 ...
freebubba
04-13-09, 10:51 AM
Too bad Swish couldn't play 3B. Seriously, much better MLB players have gotten off to just as bad of a start. It's been 6 games... he can only improve, right?
THEBOSS84
04-13-09, 10:53 AM
Get this guy off the team please. Terrible decision allowing a black hole to start around 30-45 games to start the year (not hindsight, I said this prior to the season).
DaSh 1s
04-13-09, 10:58 AM
Besides Ransom, who were our other options?
THEBOSS84
04-13-09, 11:02 AM
Besides Ransom, who were our other options?
I'm sure Mark Loretta could have been had for nearly nothing. I'd try him out at third no doubt.
justtxyank
04-13-09, 11:08 AM
I'm sure Mark Loretta could have been had for nearly nothing. I'd try him out at third no doubt.
He signed cheap for the Dodgers.
One of these years Cashman will awaken to the fact that he gets burned by crappy players on his bench every year and will actually invest in it.
Loretta could have been had, could have traded for Teahen, etc. There is no reason for Cody Ransom to be on this team because he has a high vertical.
ThunderFan
04-13-09, 11:11 AM
He signed cheap for the Dodgers.
One of these years Cashman will awaken to the fact that he gets burned by crappy players on his bench every year and will actually invest in it.
Loretta could have been had, could have traded for Teahen, etc. There is no reason for Cody Ransom to be on this team because he has a high vertical.This. How a team could spend 206 million dollars and still have multiple non major league quality players on their roster is mind boggling.
ThunderFan
04-13-09, 11:12 AM
Get this guy off the team please. Terrible decision allowing a black hole to start around 30-45 games to start the year (not hindsight, I said this prior to the season).BTW They started the season with the plan of having another black hole start 40 games so this is black hole no 2.
justtxyank
04-13-09, 11:13 AM
This. How a team could spend 206 million dollars and still have multiple non major league quality players on their roster is mind boggling.
I say this every Hotstove and again in the spring. I just don't get it. This year we have a good player on the bench most nights in either Swisher or Nady by accident.
roblyo33
04-13-09, 11:14 AM
I say this every Hotstove and again in the spring. I just don't get it. This year we have a good player on the bench most nights in either Swisher or Nady by accident.
It was by accident that Cash got Tex???
justtxyank
04-13-09, 11:19 AM
It was by accident that Cash got Tex???
I don't think he expected to get Tex when he got Swisher. I believe he expected Swisher to be his starting first baseman and then things worked out better than he could have expected.
I don't even ask him to get studs or guys that are hard to find, but guys like Eric Hinske and Mark Loretta are out there every year looking for someone to give them a job for about a million bucks and we pass ever year for scrubs.
ThunderFan
04-13-09, 11:20 AM
It was by accident that Cash got Tex???If they had spent 2% of what they spent on Tex in the offseason they could've avoided many of the problems they are having right now.
matsui has two hits. ransom has one. ok, i know matsui has a track record. i know matsui is a proven hitter. the this season's sample size is the same. i'm don't have the same expectation for the two players.
but i also give our GM the credit for not overreacting to a guy only 6 games into the season. some may say that ransom is a AAA/AAAA player and you could well be right, but he is being given a shot to fill a hole for a while. that "shot" should not be ended after one week.
despite/inspite/with ransom we are 3-3 and could be 4-2 if not for a ⅓ inning bullpen collapse. having ransom playing third is not ideal but i'm sure this team can overcome it.My concern is less with his results and more with the fact that he appears to be playing like a guy who thinks he has to hit 20 home runs this month to stay in the league. The 7 K's in 20 AB's is more concerning than the 1 hit TBH. Dude - just make some contact, take some walks... get that OBP up around .320 or so for the next couple weeks. We don't need you to try and hit 500ft HR's in your at bats.
justtxyank
04-13-09, 11:29 AM
My concern is less with his results and more with the fact that he appears to be playing like a guy who thinks he has to hit 20 home runs this month to stay in the league. The 7 K's in 20 AB's is more concerning than the 1 hit TBH. Dude - just make some contact, take some walks... get that OBP up around .320 or so for the next couple weeks. We don't need you to try and hit 500ft HR's in your at bats.
Well, if he could make solid contact, post an OBP of around .320, and play all the positions he does, don't you think he'd have stuck around?
THEBOSS84
04-13-09, 11:30 AM
I wish, WISH Ransom never hit those homers in his call-up last season.
If they had spent 2% of what they spent on Tex in the offseason they could've avoided many of the problems they are having right now.I hear ya, but after the success of last offseason I'm not going to bitch overall about a bench of Swisher/Nady, Ransom, Molina and Melky. Cash has tried the Loretta types (e.g. Ensberg) in the past and they haven't exactly panned out. Ransom looked very good in limited action last year, which is what he was being counted on for this year. A-Rod's injury changed that.
And A-Rod's injury is such that it's too short to go out and overpay for a replacement. We go with Ransom for a few weeks and hope for the best. I'm not going to get overly critical about Cashman having Ransom on the roster. This is, however, a place where posters could critique Cash for having poor positional talent in the minors capable of stepping in for a few weeks.
justtxyank
04-13-09, 11:39 AM
I hear ya, but after the success of last offseason I'm not going to bitch overall about a bench of Swisher/Nady, Ransom, Molina and Melky. Cash has tried the Loretta types (e.g. Ensberg) in the past and they haven't exactly panned out. Ransom looked very good in limited action last year, which is what he was being counted on for this year. A-Rod's injury changed that.
And A-Rod's injury is such that it's too short to go out and overpay for a replacement. We go with Ransom for a few weeks and hope for the best. I'm not going to get overly critical about Cashman having Ransom on the roster. This is, however, a place where posters could critique Cash for having poor positional talent in the minors capable of stepping in for a few weeks.
Ensberg was not comparable to a Loretta type. He had decent slugging numbers, but his average and obp were hit hard and his ks were up big time. The guy was completely washed up and had significant mental handicaps at the plate.
Well, if he could make solid contact, post an OBP of around .320, and play all the positions he does, don't you think he'd have stuck around?In his last 175 PA's prior to this season, his OBP was .367. This spanned over 3 seasons in which he saw limited duty, the role he was intended to hold this year. I don't think it was unreasonable for Cash to think he could stick an OBP of .320. And if A-Rod's injury were worse, we'd probably see some pitching departing for a better option.
Again, I just want the guy to cut down on his swing.
Ensberg was not comparable to a Loretta type. He had decent slugging numbers, but his average and obp were hit hard and his ks were up big time. The guy was completely washed up and had significant mental handicaps at the plate.I'm not defending the Ensberg pickup, but I don't think it's as much of a stretch to comp as you do. Ensberg was 32, and a year removed from seasons of .388 and .396 OBP's. In '07, he had a bad year with an 88 OPS+ which incidentally is right around what Loretta has produced over the last 5 years. Loretta is 37 this season.
Get this piece of garbage off the team. He is the worst player I have ever seen. He can't hit or field.
THEBOSS84
04-13-09, 07:24 PM
Get this piece of garbage off the team. He is the worst player I have ever seen. He can't hit or field.
Ever.
MikeHitman
04-13-09, 07:28 PM
Pena needs to be at 3rd
dave8274
04-13-09, 07:49 PM
Pena needs to be at 3rd
True.. if you need to go with a guy who can't hit, at least go with a guy who can play defense.
The Q Bomb
04-13-09, 07:52 PM
Ransom has just been plain awful.
This guy is driving me insane. Get him out of here.
NelsonMuntz
04-13-09, 07:52 PM
This is beyond embarrassing. Get him out of here.
MikeHitman
04-13-09, 07:53 PM
Ok Ransom needs to go now....
Has swisher ever played 3rd?
Anyone can play third better than this guy.
NelsonMuntz
04-13-09, 07:54 PM
I just deleted my post. It's not worth getting into. I just don't think Ransom is a legitimate major league player.
I guess I had no reason to delete my original post.
He stinks.
Someone needs to put a skunk in front of him.
MikeHitman
04-13-09, 07:55 PM
Ok if posada can make that play then ransom has ZERO excuse......
Girardi may want to get swish to start learning 3rd
THEBOSS84
04-13-09, 07:56 PM
Anyone can play third better than this guy.
"If we are scared of having Ransom replace A-rod than this team wasn't good enough to make the playoffs anyway"
"It's ok, our pitching should be so good that Ransom replacing A-rod wont matter much"
dave8274
04-13-09, 07:56 PM
Ok if posada can make that play then ransom has ZERO excuse......
Girardi may want to get swish to start learning 3rd
Just use Pena for the next 2 weeks. Wang and Ransom carpool over to Scranton .
ThePinStripes
04-13-09, 07:57 PM
Ok Ransom needs to go now....
Has swisher ever played 3rd?
Has Ransom?
MikeHitman
04-13-09, 07:59 PM
Has Ransom?
HAHAHA
that 60" vert aint helping now
This man has no talent. Get him off the team.
MikeHitman
04-13-09, 08:02 PM
If he is starting tomorrow I am very disappointed in Joe G
THEBOSS84
04-13-09, 08:04 PM
Wow..
That was right down the middle Ransom yet you think it was a ball.
jimmykey2
04-13-09, 08:06 PM
That was right down the middle Ransom yet you think it was a ball.
In his defense, the exact same pitch was called a ball in Nick Swisher's first AB.
Ransom has really committed the cardinal sin of baseball... he's carried his hitting issues onto the field.
Torre Must Go
04-13-09, 08:08 PM
What has this guy done for Cashman to have such faith in him? Other than jump really well.
teknetic
04-13-09, 08:08 PM
I'll be shocked if he isn't in the lineup tomorrow. This is Melky 2008 all over again.
THEBOSS84
04-13-09, 08:09 PM
What has this guy done for Cashman to have such faith in him? Other than jump really well.
He kidnapped Cashman's kid and is receiving playing time as Ransom.
jimmykey2
04-13-09, 08:10 PM
I'll be shocked if he isn't in the lineup tomorrow. This is Melky 2008 all over again.
Because Ramiro Pena the career 258/316/319 minor league hitter MUST get the starts over him? I could see if we were discussing someone else.
Because Ramiro Pena the career 258/316/319 minor league hitter MUST get the starts over him? I could see if we were discussing someone else.
Because Ramiro Pena can at least catch the ball. Ransom can't even do that.
teknetic
04-13-09, 08:12 PM
Because Ramiro Pena the career 258/316/319 minor league hitter MUST get the starts over him? I could see if we were discussing someone else.
Because that's what I meant? The dude has been downright horrendous, anyone at this point would be an improvement.
Because that's what I meant? The dude has been downright horrendous, anyone at this point would be an improvement.
If the guy can field, that is a major improvement over Ransom.
Rocketbooster
04-13-09, 08:15 PM
I said earlier that Joe is an optimist. That's good in a way, but bad also in that it may blind him to the reality that he faces.....in this case, that Ransom is just a bad, bad ballplayer who (as another poster said) has carried his hitting woes into the field. Inexcusable.
jimmykey2
04-13-09, 08:15 PM
Because that's what I meant? The dude has been downright horrendous, anyone at this point would be an improvement.
Classic message board sentence.
(I'm not defending Ransom because he's stunk completely. I simply can't get worked up over why he's getting starts over Ramiro Pena.)
Classic message board sentence.
(I'm not defending Ransom because he's stunk completely. I simply can't get worked up over why he's getting starts over Ramiro Pena.)
Because one can field and the other can't. Do you not read the posts?
TheGameEpisode2
04-13-09, 08:26 PM
And who knows, maybe we catch lighting in the bottle with Pena and he gets a few hits like Alberto Gonzalez did last year.
You never know until you try...(unless you can tell the future)
DaSh 1s
04-13-09, 08:26 PM
Cody's body language has become alarming, and the feeling of sucking at your job is a very very bad feeling.
mrmike98
04-13-09, 08:31 PM
Time to give him a rest. Play Pena, Joe.
MikeHitman
04-13-09, 08:32 PM
I see Pena at 3rd, Tex at first, Swish in Right tomorrow
I say they give him his 10 games and then bring in someone who knows how to make contact with a baseball with a man on third and one out.
teknetic
04-13-09, 09:10 PM
Classic message board sentence.
(I'm not defending Ransom because he's stunk completely. I simply can't get worked up over why he's getting starts over Ramiro Pena.)
Yea, except it makes sense in this case.
goin for 27
04-13-09, 09:12 PM
Classic message board sentence.
(I'm not defending Ransom because he's stunk completely. I simply can't get worked up over why he's getting starts over Ramiro Pena.)
No, it is classic logic. You pretty much can't get worse than Ransom right now, his head is spinning. Pena is a better fielder, and may give you a little offense along the way.
jimmykey2
04-13-09, 09:30 PM
Yea, except it makes sense in this case.
It's just me. I can't get worked up over Pena like he's Lou Gehrig sitting on the bench.
I'd be screaming from the rooftops for Esteban German to start if he was here. I just see Pena and Ransom as 2 different levels of suck, but hopefully I'm wrong. I'd be shocked if Pena didn't start tomorrow.
BornAYankeesFan
04-13-09, 09:39 PM
It would be hard for anyone Joe throws out there to be worse than Ransom. The guy's a joke right now. It's not even like he's a kid, please DFA this person as soon as possible.
First DFA of the year? Its a good bet.
jimmykey2
04-13-09, 09:49 PM
First DFA of the year? Its a good bet.
The scary part is who is going to replace him? They have to hope Pena turns into Alberto Gonzalez (like someone else mentioned) or get someone like... Morgan Ensberg.
I do think Ranson won't be making the trip back to the Bronx Wednesday night.
I still don't know why they didn't give McPherson a shot.
I still don't know why they didn't give McPherson a shot.
It wouldve been worth it, you would think guys who have been around as long as Cash and Girardi would know not to trust spring and September stats.
jimmykey2
04-13-09, 09:57 PM
I still don't know why they didn't give McPherson a shot.
The same McPherson who couldn't beat out a converted 2nd baseman for the 3rd base job? Plus, the Marlins added Russ Gload a day before the season rather than keeping McPherson on the bench.
The same McPherson who couldn't beat out a converted 2nd baseman for the 3rd base job? Plus, the Marlins added Russ Gload a day before the season rather than keeping McPherson on the bench.
Yeah, that same guy. I'd sure rather have him at 3B for 5 or 6 weeks than Cody Ransom.
Adam Kennedy or Mike Lamb would be massive upgrades over Ransom
The same McPherson who couldn't beat out a converted 2nd baseman for the 3rd base job? Plus, the Marlins added Russ Gload a day before the season rather than keeping McPherson on the bench.
If the choice is a former big time prospect or a 33 year old career minor leaguer Im going to take the failed prospect. Not saying either are great choices but with the failed prospect the talent is probably there but something just isnt clicking. With the 33 year old career minor leager theres nothing to work with.
jimmykey2
04-13-09, 10:04 PM
Adam Kennedy or Mike Lamb would be massive upgrades over Ransom
Lamb stinks, but I'd give him a shot. Did he become a FA when the Brewers tried to send him down?
Has Kennedy ever played third?
Lamb stinks, but I'd give him a shot. Did he become a FA when the Brewers tried to send him down?
Has Kennedy ever played third?
Lamb at least has a MLB track record of being adequate some of the time. Ransom has never been that good at any level.
Kennedy played a lot of 3B during ST with the Rays before getting cut.
jimmykey2
04-13-09, 10:09 PM
Lamb at least has a MLB track record of being adequate some of the time. Ransom has never been that good at any level.
Kennedy played a lot of 3B during ST with the Rays before getting cut.
I think Kennedy reported to the Rays AAA team (at least that's what I recall reading). Lamb may still be a FA.
Curmudgeon
04-13-09, 10:09 PM
I've watched four full games now and it's fairly clear theat the Yankees suck, and it isn't just Ransom. He just sucks worse than some of the others.
Jeter has lost another step in the field and he's 1 for his last 20. Posada can't throw. Teams are going to run wild on him. Matsui is finished. Thir 180 million dollar first baseman has a boo boo and has to sit out a few games. At least his replacement is playing at a major league level.
Their middle relief sucks. Wang has just lost it and I see no eveidence that he'll get it back. Pettitte is too old. Chamberlain ought to be in the bullpen.
They'll be lucky to finish 3rd in the division.
CoyoteYankee
04-13-09, 10:12 PM
I've watched four full games now and it's fairly clear theat the Yankees suck, and it isn't just Ransom. He just sucks worse than some of the others.
Jeter has lost another step in the field and he's 1 for his last 20. Posada can't throw. Teams are going to run wild on him. Matsui is finished. Thir 180 million dollar first baseman has a boo boo and has to sit out a few games. At least his replacement is playing at a major league level.
Their middle relief sucks. Wang has just lost it and I see no eveidence that he'll get it back. Pettitte is too old. Chamberlain ought to be in the bullpen.
They'll be lucky to finish 3rd in the division.
Your user name suits you.
ThunderFan
04-13-09, 10:12 PM
I've watched four full games now and it's fairly clear theat the Yankees suck, and it isn't just Ransom. He just sucks worse than some of the others.
Jeter has lost another step in the field and he's 1 for his last 20. Posada can't throw. Teams are going to run wild on him. Matsui is finished. Thir 180 million dollar first baseman has a boo boo and has to sit out a few games. At least his replacement is playing at a major league level.
Their middle relief sucks. Wang has just lost it and I see no eveidence that he'll get it back. Pettitte is too old. Chamberlain ought to be in the bullpen.
They'll be lucky to finish 3rd in the division.Boston is about to be 2-5 and Ortiz is just as done as Matsui is.
Metroidman
04-13-09, 10:13 PM
I've watched four full games now and it's fairly clear theat the Yankees suck, and it isn't just Ransom. He just sucks worse than some of the others.
Jeter has lost another step in the field and he's 1 for his last 20. Posada can't throw. Teams are going to run wild on him. Matsui is finished. Thir 180 million dollar first baseman has a boo boo and has to sit out a few games. At least his replacement is playing at a major league level.
Their middle relief sucks. Wang has just lost it and I see no eveidence that he'll get it back. Pettitte is too old. Chamberlain ought to be in the bullpen.
They'll be lucky to finish 3rd in the division.
I sometimes wonder what would happen if your kind of mentality ran the world. I'm guessing we'd have surrendered in WW2 after the Japanese hit Pearl Harbor
jimmykey2
04-13-09, 10:14 PM
Boston is about to be 2-5 and Ortiz is just as done as Matsui is.
Thunder... don't take the bait!:D
I've watched four full games now and it's fairly clear theat the Yankees suck, and it isn't just Ransom. He just sucks worse than some of the others.
Jeter has lost another step in the field and he's 1 for his last 20. Posada can't throw. Teams are going to run wild on him. Matsui is finished. Thir 180 million dollar first baseman has a boo boo and has to sit out a few games. At least his replacement is playing at a major league level.
Their middle relief sucks. Wang has just lost it and I see no eveidence that he'll get it back. Pettitte is too old. Chamberlain ought to be in the bullpen.
They'll be lucky to finish 3rd in the division.
Yup, you can definitly declare a team done in game 7 before they even play a home game.
ThunderFan
04-13-09, 10:15 PM
Thunder... don't take the bait!:DI'm not. I just wanted to say Ortiz is done again. And that boston is gonna be 2-5.
Micky Rivers's Bat
04-13-09, 10:42 PM
Arod cannot come back soon enough.
Curmudgeon
04-14-09, 12:14 AM
I'm not. I just wanted to say Ortiz is done again. And that boston is gonna be 2-5.
So? Boston sucks too. Ortiz probably is finished and they will miss Ramirez' 120 RBIs. Does that make the Yankees better?
Tampa Bay is way better than the Yankees. They have guys who can run, catch the ball, hit.
Matsui, Posada and yes, Jeter are just old farts playing out the string, just like Ortiz.
Ransom really has looked over-matched so far, both with the bat and with the glove.
ThunderFan
04-14-09, 12:58 AM
So? Boston sucks too. Ortiz probably is finished and they will miss Ramirez' 120 RBIs. Does that make the Yankees better?
Tampa Bay is way better than the Yankees. They have guys who can run, catch the ball, hit.
Matsui, Posada and yes, Jeter are just old farts playing out the string, just like Ortiz.The yankees are playing without their 2 best hitters now...
The yankees are playing without their 2 best hitters now...
they should play molina more.
JL25and3
04-14-09, 05:04 AM
And who knows, maybe we catch lighting in the bottle with Pena and he gets a few hits like Alberto Gonzalez did last year.
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bat him third.
Shanghai Bob
04-14-09, 06:18 AM
I've watched four full games now and it's fairly clear theat the Yankees suck, and it isn't just Ransom. He just sucks worse than some of the others.
Jeter has lost another step in the field and he's 1 for his last 20. Posada can't throw. Teams are going to run wild on him. Matsui is finished. Thir 180 million dollar first baseman has a boo boo and has to sit out a few games. At least his replacement is playing at a major league level.
Their middle relief sucks. Wang has just lost it and I see no eveidence that he'll get it back. Pettitte is too old. Chamberlain ought to be in the bullpen.
They'll be lucky to finish 3rd in the division.
And you are a little troll...
I've watched four full games now and it's fairly clear theat the Yankees suck, and it isn't just Ransom. He just sucks worse than some of the others.
Jeter has lost another step in the field and he's 1 for his last 20. Posada can't throw. Teams are going to run wild on him. Matsui is finished. Thir 180 million dollar first baseman has a boo boo and has to sit out a few games. At least his replacement is playing at a major league level.
Their middle relief sucks. Wang has just lost it and I see no eveidence that he'll get it back. Pettitte is too old. Chamberlain ought to be in the bullpen.
They'll be lucky to finish 3rd in the division.
that just gave you away.
Curmudgeon
04-14-09, 08:00 AM
that just gave you away.
Not at all. I've been a diehard Yankee fan since before you were born. I was there when Mantle hit the facade in right field.
But reality is reality. This is not, overall, a good team.
They have several key position players who are aging. They have a catcher who can't throw and outfielders who can't throw (except for Cabrera, and he's not an every day player). Their shortstop lacks range-- and not just to his left. The pitching staff is poorly constructed. Oh, they've got a great #1 starter, but everyone else is a question mark, and that includes Burnett (history of injury), Pettitte (getting old), Rivera (getting old) and Wang (throwing 89 mph instead of 94-- why?).
It makes me sad.
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