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Snatch Catch
02-02-09, 07:44 AM
Right off the bat there are the two Cubans, and W+C=F just brought up a 16 year old bumping 93 with two breaking pitches and clean mechanincs (De Paula).
Figured to just start anew here instead of continuing the 2008 version of this thread.
wang+cano=future
02-02-09, 08:26 AM
Good idea Snatch.
Here is an article on De Paula.
http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.diariolibre.com%2Fnoticias_det.php%3Fid%3D186424&sl=es&tl=en&history_state0=
YESSIR!
02-02-09, 09:13 AM
Good idea Snatch.
Here is an article on De Paula.
http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.diariolibre.com%2Fnoticias_det.php%3Fid%3D186424&sl=es&tl=en&history_state0=
Love the translation there. It's like reading code.
JavyVazquezIsSick
02-02-09, 12:03 PM
Let's hope the Yanks are willing to spend money this time around.
NYNJYank
02-02-09, 12:22 PM
Good idea Snatch.
Here is an article on De Paula.
http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.diariolibre.com%2Fnoticias_det.php%3Fid%3D186424&sl=es&tl=en&history_state0=
that translation is brutal.
wang+cano=future
02-02-09, 12:59 PM
Haha yeah its not the best.......
Stache Fan
02-02-09, 02:37 PM
is de paula supposed to be the year's #1 IFA?
CallOfTheCrow
02-02-09, 02:40 PM
I'm sure I've asked this before but I forget. Are there any free sites you guys check for info on international free agents? Or is it just BA & PP?
wang+cano=future
02-02-09, 02:42 PM
I'm sure I've asked this before but I forget. Are there any free sites you guys check for info on international free agents? Or is it just BA & PP?
Yeah basically I get info from BA & PP. I found that article off of RiverAveBlues though.
THEBOSS84
02-02-09, 02:51 PM
Yeah basically I get info from BA & PP. I found that article off of RiverAveBlues though.
There was another site last year that was good for the draft and the IFA that I can't remember right now. It was a free site - very good articles too.
that translation is brutal.
"young pitcher right leaflet Rafael De Paula
He has a mechanical pulling attractive because it is clean and fairly short,(sounds vaguely kinky )"
The Yanks were willing to spend money last season, they just had a kid accept an offer than sign with the A's.
btw, this has been rumored for 2 years to be the most talented July 2 class maybe ever.
who are the consensus top prospects from this years class? i cant find much info on BP currently, and the article on DePaula is hard to read.
ArodMVP217
02-12-09, 04:22 PM
aprende algun espanol
yankeelover
02-17-09, 07:01 PM
Sean M:
According to Patrick at Pinstripesplus, some of the top international prospects are:
- Wagner Mateo, a 5-tool outfielder;
- Russell Herrera: a shortshop reported to be already 6' 4" at 15 years old;
- Mariosal Cairo: a LHP with a plus curve who is reported to sit at 88-89 at 15 years old;
- Victor Payano: another LHP who is 6' 4" at 15 years old;
- Anderson Encarnacion: a RHP who is 6' 5" and sits at 91-93
Yankeelover
Scallinno
02-17-09, 07:47 PM
Well, I'll start it off. Starting now, I'm praying that we get DePaula, Mateo, Herrera, and/or at least 1 of the top pitchers. If we don't, I'm gonna be upset.
NY_GOLDENARMS
02-17-09, 08:35 PM
I'll do better. If we don't sign all of them, I'm not going to be a Yankee fan anymore.
philleotardo
02-17-09, 10:31 PM
Payano is too close to Pavano. Sign everyone else.
Third Stream
02-18-09, 01:24 AM
I'll do better. If we don't sign all of them, I'm not going to be a Yankee fan anymore.
Time to make up for those lost draft picks...
Snatch Catch
02-18-09, 06:37 AM
I don't care how much stronger the immigration standards are now, I still have a tough time believing some of these ages in conjunction with their vital stats/velocities.
budstinks
02-18-09, 07:58 AM
I don't care how much stronger the immigration standards are now, I still have a tough time believing some of these ages in conjunction with their vital stats/velocities.
The heights don't surprise me at all, kids just bust out between 13-15.
Now the velocities?
budstinks
02-18-09, 08:00 AM
I'm hoping that we have the best guys already rapped up and hidden away in our camp where no one else can get their greedy little hands on them.
I don't want to hear any names until they are signed and then they turn out to be the best of all time.
:-)
scooterfan
02-18-09, 08:46 AM
I don't care how much stronger the immigration standards are now, I still have a tough time believing some of these ages in conjunction with their vital stats/velocities.
Speaking of, a Nats prospect chopped 4 years off his age:
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/02/esmailyn-gonzal.html
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/baseball/mlb/02/17/nats.gonzalez/index.html
He was signed for $1.4 mil 3 years ago (2006) so the Nats thought he was 16, when he was really 20. The guy was playing in the GCL at 23
Snatch Catch
02-18-09, 09:06 AM
Holy crap, that's hilarious.
Matsui55
02-18-09, 09:12 PM
The Yanks were willing to spend money last season, they just had a kid accept an offer than sign with the A's.
I think this is the year you see the Yankees go get the kids they missed last year- the A's and other small and mid-market teams just aren't going to be able to justify spending $2-5M on international signings when they won't put the money into the big league club.
The Yanks also wisely did not join in the "signing inflation" that took place last fall- that will allow them to draw the line on bonuses to the kids this summer- meaning that just because the Yanks are now one of the only games in town, they aren't going to just start handing out $1M bonuses just because they can.
I would suspect that the Yanks give out maybe one "big" bonus as a headline grabber, but invest their resources in getting as many solid kids out of this class as they can. If it is as deep as rumored, signing 5-10 "very good" guys beats signing the 1-2 big fish- because you should get more ML guys out of it that way.
Remember that Brien Taylor and Ruben Rivera were "can't miss guys," so you really can't afford to just put all your eggs in one basket- especially when you have lost so many high draft picks in the past 2 years (1st and 2nd last year; 3rd this year).
primetime714
02-18-09, 10:22 PM
Much like regular Free Agency I think we'll see a lot of teams skimping on the bonuses they're willing to give these IFA's. The top names will still garner good pay as they'll be in high demand, but some of the other guys may come at bargain basement prices. I definitely don't think we'll see money thrown around like it was last year though.
I think the Yankees will do what they normally do sign 1-2 really big name guys and a couple other guys that their scouts feel are undervalued.
THEBOSS84
02-18-09, 11:15 PM
Callis:
An assistant GM I spoke to brought up another area where teams may cut back—the international market. Teams handed out more than 100 six-figure bonuses to Latin American and Pacific Rim prospects in 2008, including the three largest bonuses ever given to foreign amateurs: $4.25 million for Dominican righthander Michael Inoa (Athletics), $2.55 million for Dominican outfielder Rafael Rodriguez (Giants) and $2.5 million for Venezuelan outfielder Yorman Rodriguez (Reds). The assistant GM noted that the players and money involved internationally are less known than those involved with the draft, and could be slashed without much backlash from fans.
http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/prospects/ask-ba/2009/267624.html
scooterfan
02-18-09, 11:23 PM
Callis:
http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/prospects/ask-ba/2009/267624.html
Wow... talk about robbing Peter to pay Paul - that's utter stupidity. It's a situation that the Yankees need to exploit - especially given the quality of the 2009 class.
CallOfTheCrow
02-19-09, 10:59 AM
I hope Inoa turns out to be 25.
budstinks
02-19-09, 01:48 PM
I think this is the year you see the Yankees go get the kids they missed last year- the A's and other small and mid-market teams just aren't going to be able to justify spending $2-5M on international signings when they won't put the money into the big league club.
The Yanks also wisely did not join in the "signing inflation" that took place last fall- that will allow them to draw the line on bonuses to the kids this summer- meaning that just because the Yanks are now one of the only games in town, they aren't going to just start handing out $1M bonuses just because they can.
I would suspect that the Yanks give out maybe one "big" bonus as a headline grabber, but invest their resources in getting as many solid kids out of this class as they can. If it is as deep as rumored, signing 5-10 "very good" guys beats signing the 1-2 big fish- because you should get more ML guys out of it that way.
Remember that Brien Taylor and Ruben Rivera were "can't miss guys," so you really can't afford to just put all your eggs in one basket- especially when you have lost so many high draft picks in the past 2 years (1st and 2nd last year; 3rd this year).
I sure hope we take advantage of the economy being down. With the new stadium revenues, we should be rolling in cash while everyone else is tanking.
This is a year that could set us up for the next decade (if this really is a great class and if we can get a huge haul). The truth is in numbers. If you sign enough of the very top of the class, some will end up producing. Just look at the number of dominicans/venz on the all-star teams.
Here's to the Yankees truly hording the international market this year. Just like the other poster stated, its an area where they can dominate the market and not get much criticism from the press because nobody cares. (Unlike the FA market)
JavyVazquezIsSick
02-19-09, 06:44 PM
We need to kill it this year. High risk toolsy prospects only.
I think Yankee dollars will rule in FA this year.
AcidLake
02-20-09, 02:17 PM
dunno if this the right place to post it, but you guys have heard of this guy
Aroldis Chapman
http://mlbbada.com/zeroboard/data/freeboard_1/chapman.jpg
a Cuban lefty who reportedly hit 102mph, which is Cuban record. he's 21 and will be participating in WBC... defect perhaps?
Snatch Catch
02-20-09, 02:22 PM
defect perhaps?
You mean the gun? I'd say so.
That picture leads me to believe he's got uglier mechanics than Dontrelle.
That 102 would also be the world record, by the way, and is the threshold of human abilities, I believe.
mentalgidget
02-20-09, 02:31 PM
dunno if this the right place to post it, but you guys have heard of this guy
Aroldis Chapman
http://mlbbada.com/zeroboard/data/freeboard_1/chapman.jpg
a Cuban lefty who reportedly hit 102mph, which is Cuban record. he's 21 and will be participating in WBC... defect perhaps?
aside from what Snatch said, if he defects in the US, he'd be subject to the draft.
bmxstreetrider86
02-20-09, 02:38 PM
he could defect to other countries, besides the US
mentalgidget
02-20-09, 03:27 PM
he could defect to other countries, besides the US
absolutely... but considering the semi-finals and finals are in LA, odds are if he defetcs immediately post WBC, it'd be here (US)
edit: and i'm faily certain they'll make it out of pool play in Mexico against Australia, South Africa & Mexico
bmxstreetrider86
02-20-09, 03:36 PM
true, he wont be defecting during or immediately after the WBC in LA, more likely he pitches in it, build up his hype, and plans his defection from there.....if he defects at all
Fabien Brandy
02-20-09, 05:00 PM
btw, this has been rumored for 2 years to be the most talented July 2 class maybe ever.That's great news for the corrupt international scouts!
yankee82093
02-20-09, 09:39 PM
You mean the gun? I'd say so.
That picture leads me to believe he's got uglier mechanics than Dontrelle.
That 102 would also be the world record, by the way, and is the threshold of human abilities, I believe.
I believe 103 is the world record, held by Joel Zumaya. Bob Feller also reportedly through a 107mph fastball, though that was calculated by hand so it's considered innacurate
AcidLake
02-20-09, 09:42 PM
That picture leads me to believe he's got uglier mechanics than Dontrelle.
not really, his mechanics look smooth, check 3:08 of this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pE6GdrPGXzQ
albo4lyfe
02-21-09, 01:15 AM
I believe 103 is the world record, held by Joel Zumaya. Bob Feller also reportedly through a 107mph fastball, though that was calculated by hand so it's considered innacurate
Finch crushed both those so-called "records". 168, baby, 168!
Fabien Brandy
02-21-09, 08:28 AM
Wasn't there a 6'8" lefty from Russia mentioned on these lists a couple years ago? What ever happened with him?
Yankyfan
02-21-09, 08:43 AM
Wasn't there a 6'8" lefty from Russia mentioned on these lists a couple years ago? What ever happened with him? Not a real person again...:P
We're gonna have a good year in Latin America, and there could be a little news soon on the IFA front.
yankeelover
02-21-09, 11:16 AM
Keep us posted regarding any new news Buzah!
IrishYankee
02-21-09, 05:23 PM
We're gonna have a good year in Latin America, and there could be a little news soon on the IFA front.
Always with the teasing...........;)
yank4life2005
02-21-09, 09:33 PM
We need position players and LHP.
Yankees1962
02-22-09, 06:16 AM
We're gonna have a good year in Latin America, and there could be a little news soon on the IFA front.
Phil,
No disrespect towards you, but we heard that last year too and many of us came away disappointed.
Phil,
No disrespect towards you, but we heard that last year too and many of us came away disappointed.The Yanks were very happy with what they got in IFA last year. Of course, they consider Banuelos, Duran and Aceves along with the 7/2 kids and the 3 or 4 guys they signed after 7/2 like Reynoso, Fulgencia, Lianora, Ramos and Vasquez all part of the international haul. This year's 7/2 class is supposed to be the "best ever" and they're expecting to do well again.
Yankees1962
02-22-09, 03:39 PM
The Yanks were very happy with what they got in IFA last year. Of course, they consider Banuelos, Duran and Aceves along with the 7/2 kids and the 3 or 4 guys they signed after 7/2 like Reynoso, Fulgencia, Lianora, Ramos and Vasquez all part of the international haul. This year's 7/2 class is supposed to be the "best ever" and they're expecting to do well again.
Well, I remember a few of us including the both of us being a little unhappy last July after the Yankees bragged how they were going to continue to stock their system with prime talent. It remains to be seen whether we were right and wrong in displaying some disappointment in those signed players, but I won't make that mistake again in getting my hopes up too high for what the Yankee may or may not accomplish this upcoming July.
cuse621
02-22-09, 07:43 PM
Buzah,
I know you have a lot of knowledge regarding international F/A's. Do you know if the kid Jurickson Profar is even eligible to be signed this year? Thanks!
He was born 2/20/93 so he will be 16 by 7/2.
Well, I remember a few of us including the both of us being a little unhappy last July after the Yankees bragged how they were going to continue to stock their system with prime talent. It remains to be seen whether we were right and wrong in displaying some disappointment in those signed players, but I won't make that mistake again in getting my hopes up too high for what the Yankee may or may not accomplish this upcoming July.
Basically, spot on.
It will be interesting to see who all those guys they got last year do this year. I bet by July people will be getting their hopes up again.
budstinks
02-23-09, 12:49 PM
It will be interesting to see who all those guys they got last year do this year. I bet by July people will be getting their hopes up again.
My hopes are already up. I'll admit, I was disappointed last year (primarily because of Hanky boy's horde comment). That said, I still have high hopes for those signed last year.
Rarely have we seen the impact in the likes of Aceves, Banuelos, etc.
I'm READY to see the others hit the field. And guys like Mojica who didn't play last year.
This should be an exciting year as some of the unproven guys hit A-ball.
ArodMVP217
02-24-09, 05:23 AM
yea, Urena hardly played also
yea, Urena hardly played also
Cause he got shot.
DominicanYankee
02-24-09, 08:43 AM
I think this year the Yankees will pursue pitching, specially LHP. They're solid regarding position players at the lower levels so this have to be the next move.
Some kids were throwing pretty well during tryout camp (I can't tell more).
27IsNext
02-24-09, 01:47 PM
Cause he got shot.
...shot? Did I miss some news?
CallOfTheCrow
02-24-09, 02:00 PM
...shot? Did I miss some news?
Earlier in the season, he was shot in a liquor store I believe.
AcidLake
02-24-09, 02:07 PM
all i've heard is that he was shot in the chest in last july and is expected to make full recovery
He was back and swinging a mean stick in Dominican instructs. He'll be over in America this year.
JavyVazquezIsSick
02-24-09, 02:54 PM
He was back and swinging a mean stick in Dominican instructs. He'll be over in America this year.
Probably what got him shot in the first place.
Probably what got him shot in the first place.Chicks dig the long ball.
yankeelover
02-24-09, 07:55 PM
I've lowered my expectation for Carlos Urena considerably. He has spent two years in Latin America. I know he was shot but he would have spent all summer in Latin America regardless. This is a bad sign. On another site it has been implied that Urena has a poor attitude and is somewhat lazy. If this is remotely true he won't advance far. I hope he turns it around because it sounds like the tools are terrific.
ArodMVP217
02-24-09, 07:58 PM
My hopes are already up. I'll admit, I was disappointed last year (primarily because of Hanky boy's horde comment). That said, I still have high hopes for those signed last year.
Rarely have we seen the impact in the likes of Aceves, Banuelos, etc.
I'm READY to see the others hit the field. And guys like Mojica who didn't play last year.
This should be an exciting year as some of the unproven guys hit A-ball.
jose Mojica, SS del futuro?
I've lowered my expectation for Carlos Urena considerably. He has spent two years in Latin America. I know he was shot but he would have spent all summer in Latin America regardless. This is a bad sign. On another site it has been implied that Urena has a poor attitude and is somewhat lazy. If this is remotely true he won't advance far. I hope he turns it around because it sounds like the tools are terrific.He had one of the great ST performances in Yankee prospect history in 2007 and they sent him down. It's hard to say if they were right or wrong, but he went into a funk when they did. Victor Mata who is the field coordinator/etc. in the Dominican Republic is incredibly insistent on kids smiling a lot and having what he decides is the right hunger. That's an awfully subjective way to go about things, and it may not be the best way. Last year, they sent Kelvin DeLeon down after a good ST and he mashed in the DR. Afterwards, Mata was saying he didn't think he was hungry enough, etc. I'm not sure what his point is, but DeLeon should be in the US this year, and I'd get sick if I heard about another kid getting sent back for not smiling enough.
ArodMVP217
02-24-09, 08:38 PM
If I'm 'hungry' I wouldn't be smiling, jaja
DominicanYankee
02-24-09, 10:07 PM
The fact that Urena, De Leon and Sosa are coming over can't surprise anybody... it's not Victor's call.
I'm wondering if they wil send Zoilo Almonte, Jose Pirela, Jimmy Paredes to Charleston or SI? and if some valuable names from the DSL will coming over, like Francisco Santana, Jorge Liccien, Nixton Perez, Jose Toussen, among others... a bottle neck is taking place at the lower levels.
budstinks
02-24-09, 10:28 PM
The fact that Urena, De Leon and Sosa are coming over can't surprise anybody... it's not Victor's call.
I'm wondering if they wil send Zoilo Almonte, Jose Pirela, Jimmy Paredes to Charleston or SI? and if some valuable names from the DSL will coming over, like Francisco Santana, Jorge Liccien, Nixton Perez, Jose Toussen, among others... a bottle neck is taking place at the lower levels.
Well, whereas the GCL used to be for High School Draft signees, (with the increase in College selections, late signees, etc), we'll see more of the Dominican kids start there after an extend spring training.
I'm thinking most of the GCL squad could be those kids hitting the states for the first time. Many will spill over into SI.
With the Yankees going overslot for many of their picks, it seems the shortseasons don't really have as much of a place anymore.
I'd like to see them get rid of one of those teams and get another full season team like Charleston. No way SI is going anywhere and I think they like having the rookie ball team in Tampa. But I'd like to see the kids play more games. Of course the Yanks may be just as happy having the kids spending more time in instructs out of the spotlight.
CallOfTheCrow
02-24-09, 10:59 PM
I want to see Garce throw batting practice to Youkilis.
Fabien Brandy
03-06-09, 04:10 PM
Victor Mata hasn't been implicated in the corruption involving Carlos Rios, has he?
It's unfortunate that everything Rios said about prospects now has to be scrutinized for hype to cover his alleged malfeasance.
metalboy15
03-10-09, 09:27 PM
dunno if this the right place to post it, but you guys have heard of this guy
Aroldis Chapman
http://mlbbada.com/zeroboard/data/freeboard_1/chapman.jpg
a Cuban lefty who reportedly hit 102mph, which is Cuban record. he's 21 and will be participating in WBC... defect perhaps?
He's on the mound for Cuba right now.
4 pitch guy. mid 3/4's slot. fastball was 94-95 in the 1st. two breaking balls. slider in the low 80s. sweeping pitch. not sure if it has enough depth to be effective against right handers. should be death to lefties. good/solid uncle charlie. high 70s. decent 3rd pitch. changeup was well below average though. high 70's.
I'm intrigued.
metalboy15
03-10-09, 09:41 PM
Wow... okay.
This guy's not fooling around.
Just hit 100 mph on the gun.
Couple of 96s, and one 99 mph.
Not sure how accurate the gun is though.
metalboy15
03-10-09, 09:51 PM
Travis Blackley, the pitcher on the mound for the Australian team, was in the 83-87 mph range in the 2nd.
Travis made his MLB debut with the Giants back in '07.
His velo reading back then (according to BIS data):
83.5 mph.
So chances are that this gun is off by ~2 mph.
yankee82093
03-10-09, 10:04 PM
This guy Chapman has some nasty stuff
metalboy15
03-10-09, 10:05 PM
He just struck out the side in the 3rd.
No FB was slower than 94 mph, hit 100 mph a couple of times.
1st strikeout was on the backdoor slider (he actually missed with the pitch, it was supposed to be down and in, just like CC likes to use it).
2nd and 3rd strikeout were on fastballs, 100 mph and 96 mph respectively.
He actually has pretty good command of the fastball. Average at worst.
yankee82093
03-10-09, 10:06 PM
Cuban lefty Strasburg?
metalboy15
03-10-09, 10:11 PM
Cuban lefty Strasburg?
His line so far:
3.0 IP 1 H 0 R 0 ER 0 BB 5 K's | 1-3 FB/GB ratio.
40 pitches - 28 for strikes.
ARoDfan4life
03-10-09, 10:12 PM
He is rumored to be a guy Cuban officials are trying to keep from defecting.
teknetic
03-10-09, 10:17 PM
This guy is filthy.
ARoDfan4life
03-10-09, 10:19 PM
Aroldis Chapman , a lerky 6'4 180 pounds black Cuban kid is now 4-0 in their just started Cuban series....its rumored that his status as Team Cuba is in Danger, because of rumors he may stay over...when Cuba comes to play at the WBC......Mexico is just perfect to defect....
75% of Cuban defectors have done it in Mexico.....best thing about him...his age.
he is only 21 years old.......looks like a young D Willis, with the same Characteristics of been wild at times....but at that age , anything could be fix.
I WANT
Snatch Catch
03-10-09, 10:24 PM
He is rumored to be a guy Cuban officials are trying to keep from defecting.
I refuse to believe this.
ARoDfan4life
03-10-09, 10:26 PM
I refuse to believe this.
It's true, the kid might end up in Mexico after this.
metalboy15
03-10-09, 10:40 PM
Gave up a run in the 4th.
Things kinda "fell apart" for him.
Double, balk, K, GO, single, walk (with wild pitch) then K.
Final line:
4.0 IP 3 H 1 R 1 ER 1 BB 7 K's | 2-3 GB/FB ratio.
67 pitches - 45 for strikes.
Last strikeout was on a 2-2 change.
metalboy15
03-10-09, 10:42 PM
Some of the best stuff I've seen from the left side in my entire life.
Just unbelievable.
ARoDfan4life
03-10-09, 10:45 PM
Very emotional kid, raw and his raw is better than Oli Perez and most #1's in the majors, DEFECT please.
budstinks
03-11-09, 05:06 AM
He is rumored to be a guy Cuban officials are trying to keep from defecting.
Ya think?
As opposed to El Duque, who they gave a gift basket, a toaster and a fruit cake to on the way off the island.
Viva Americana El Duque!! (Please note I don't speak Spanish)
budstinks
03-11-09, 05:11 AM
I WANT
:smokin:
Snatch Catch
03-11-09, 07:47 AM
It's true, the kid might end up in Mexico after this.
Impossible.
metalboy15
03-11-09, 01:40 PM
BA's Ben Badler:
Anthony (Staten Island, NY): While I was watching the WBC last night one of the announcers mentioned that Chapman was the best pitching prospect in the world. What's your thoughts on that comment and how does he compare to the great Strasburg?
http://a.espncdn.com/i/sn2.gif Ben Badler: (2:03 PM ET ) Yes, that's a bit of hyperbole, but that's typical. He's the best pitching prospect from Cuba, sure, and one scout said he hit 100 mph several times yesterday, but I don't think we have enough information to say he's better than David Price, and there's at least a handful of pitching prospects in the minors I'd take over him right now. I'll wait to talk to some more scouts and see some Pitch F/x data on him before passing further judgment, but that is one electric arm.
albo4lyfe
03-11-09, 11:17 PM
What is Badler smokin'? A handful of pitching prospects? Let me guess... would one of those 'spects possibly be Brett Anderson? Please!
DEFECT please.
To the Yankees, of cousre!
albo4lyfe
03-12-09, 09:26 AM
To the Yankees, of cousre!
Seriously. Otherwise, why bother?
bmxstreetrider86
03-14-09, 04:52 PM
i dont know if anyone saw this (it was posted in another thread i believe), but here is a story about the process of signing dominican players.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espnmag/story?id=3974952
they drop a couple of names worth watching in the story, especially Miguel Angel Sano (if what they are saying is true)
bmxstreetrider86
03-15-09, 03:42 PM
chapman is pitching on espn 2, its the first time i have seen him. he has excellent stuff. control/command is off so far. very demonstrative. he isnt a finished product but could probably start in AA. very very nice pickoff move
from what i have seen so far, chapman is clearly behind strasburg to me, who has comparable stuff but better command and polish. second best non MLB affiliated arm in the world for me right now.
eaganmafia
03-15-09, 04:54 PM
What is Badler smokin'? A handful of pitching prospects? Let me guess... would one of those 'spects possibly be Brett Anderson? Please!
He's just saying he doesn't have enough info on the guy to say he's better then Price, Anderson, Bumgarner, Matusz, Holland etc.
I don't see what the big deal is?
metalboy15
03-16-09, 11:20 AM
Baseball America:
Cuba started Albertin Aroldis Chapman, a lanky, 21-year-old lefthander who one scout here said is among the top three pitchers in the world not affiliated with a major league team. The other two also happen to be in town: Korea lefthander Hyunjin Ryu (who starts tonight against Mexico) and San Diego State righthander Stephen Strasburg.
Chapman shares another distinction with Strasburg—both have thrown pitches clocked at 102 mph. Strasburg did it three weeks ago in a game against Nevada. Chapman reportedly hit 102 in December against Las Tunas, breaking the record for the fastest pitch in Cuban history.
Cuba assistant coach Pedro Perez may have broken the country’s record for the fastest hook in history for a scoreless game. He pulled Chapman in the top of the third inning when Japan loaded the bases with one out.
Although he registered just one strikeout, Chapman had been fairly impressive to that point. His fastball ran into the high 90s—and a pitch just under the chin of Norichika Aoki in the first inning touched 100 mph. Chapman walked the first two hitters he faced in the second inning, but he picked each of them off first base.
Chapman was charged with three runs in the third inning, although all the runs scored after he was already in the dugout—on a wild pitch from reliever Norberto Gonzalez, a single and a sacrifice fly.
“He’s 21 years old,” said Velez, perhaps giving away Chapman’s age, which is not listed on the official Cuban roster. “Perhaps he felt the pressure and was not at his best game. . . . He has a great future.”
AcidLake
03-16-09, 02:13 PM
Hyun Jin Ryu would have pitched a great game if he wasn't squeezed by Joe West yesterday and wasn't forced to throw higher. he's basically lower corners guy who can throw changeup any time he wants and from what i've seen yesterday, his fastball ranged about 89~93mph. his somewhat rotund size and repertoire reminds me of David Wells in his prime a lot.... btw Ryu is 21 years old
bmxstreetrider86
03-16-09, 03:58 PM
ryu wouldnt be in my top 3, thats for sure (though its a small sample size of watching him), id def take strasburg, chapman, darvish, and alex white over him for sure, and possibly mike minor and aaron crow as well. he is a nice arm though, very intriguing
albo4lyfe
03-17-09, 12:33 AM
He's just saying he doesn't have enough info on the guy to say he's better then Price, Anderson, Bumgarner, Matusz, Holland etc.
I don't see what the big deal is?
Then he's not watching the kid pitch. Anderson.. lmao, sorry, I'm just not excited by him much.
Any news on those 2 Cubans who did defect?
primetime714
03-17-09, 01:24 PM
ryu wouldnt be in my top 3, thats for sure (though its a small sample size of watching him), id def take strasburg, chapman, darvish, and alex white over him for sure, and possibly mike minor and aaron crow as well. he is a nice arm though, very intriguing
Totally agree. Not including Darvish in that group was a clear oversight.
Totally agree. Not including Darvish in that group was a clear oversight.
Darvish should be the best among them.
bmxstreetrider86
03-17-09, 02:35 PM
Darvish should be the best among them.
id take strasburg over darvish for sure, and chapman is 50-50 for me.
eaganmafia
03-17-09, 03:22 PM
Then he's not watching the kid pitch. Anderson.. lmao, sorry, I'm just not excited by him much.
Cause he can throw 100 mph from the left side, who cares? From what I saw he looked more thrower then pitcher and didn't really have command of anything he threw.
He's raw and if everything clicked yeah he would be a monster. But I wasn't really impressied by anything outside of his velocity. And not impressed emough to say I'd take him over Price, Anderson, Bumgarnder etc.
The FUTURE
03-17-09, 04:03 PM
id take Darvish over chapman personally
id take strasburg over darvish for sure, and chapman is 50-50 for me.
I think Darvish is slightly better that Strasburg. I have watched him pitch a lot as I'm a Fighter fan also. He doesn't have any plus plus pitch like Strasburg's fastball or slider. But he does have four plus pitches (4-seamer, 2-seamer, slider and curve) and his command is exceptional on all four pitches. He has pitched lots of big games in Japan and his makeup is very good. They are close but I take Darvish if I can choose. Too bad he doesn't want to go to MLB.
Chapman has very good stuff. But he is too raw comparing to Darvish and Strasburg. No way I take him over any one of them.
Yankyfan
03-17-09, 05:22 PM
Chapman looked like a lefty Daniel Cabrera.
ARoDfan4life
03-20-09, 04:28 PM
Chapman looked like a lefty Daniel Cabrera.
With devasting stuff. 21 yrs. old and raw I don't give a ..... GET HIM :mad:
With devasting stuff. 21 yrs. old and raw I don't give a ..... GET HIM :mad:
Are you advocating kidnapping him? How can they get him otherwise?
I've seen him listed as 26, 24, 22, 21, and 20. Now Cuba claims he was born Sept 11, 1987 making him 21. I honestly doubt we'll never know how old he really is.
Yankyfan
03-20-09, 05:48 PM
With devasting stuff. 21 yrs. old and raw I don't give a ..... GET HIM :mad: Don't take me wrong .I too would look to sign a lefty who throws like that. He just reminds me of Cabrera who i still would have taken a shot at. Cabrera's head has been his problem not his arm...
Fabien Brandy
03-21-09, 09:40 AM
I've seen him listed as 26, 24, 22, 21, and 20. Now Cuba claims he was born Sept 11, 1987 making him 21. I honestly doubt we'll never know how old he really is.According to Baseball Prospectus the only way to know for sure with pitchers is to cut off the arm and count the inner rings.
scooterfan
03-21-09, 10:27 AM
According to Baseball Prospectus the only way to know for sure with pitchers is to cut off the arm and count the inner rings.
Hehe...
If there are any more defections, the Yankees should move quickly to snap up a few players now. You wonder how much longer international free agency will hang around
Could be interesting to keep an eye on the economic and political situation in Cuba. IF there is some sort of rapprochement between the US and Cuba, Castro could decide to 'allow' top Cuban players to play in the majors - so long as the government reaps some major benefits. (What would Chapman bring back in a 'posting fee' to his current team?)
You could see a situation where guys like Chapman and Gourriel don't have to defect. If the doors open up for Cuban players, MLB may try to impose rules on international player movement in response - and that could end international free agency as we know it.
The FUTURE
03-21-09, 10:43 AM
darrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrvisssssssssshhhhhhh. forget chapman.
Stache Fan
03-21-09, 11:15 AM
darrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrvisssssssssshhhhhhh. forget chapman.
But Darvish wants to stay in Japan for awhile, he's said so. Might as well get Chapman considering he's the best available right now.
just-blaze
03-21-09, 11:49 AM
Get both.
Scallinno
03-21-09, 01:51 PM
Get both.
That's the way I always think.
ARoDfan4life
03-21-09, 03:01 PM
Are you advocating kidnapping him? How can they get him otherwise?
I've seen him listed as 26, 24, 22, 21, and 20. Now Cuba claims he was born Sept 11, 1987 making him 21. I honestly doubt we'll never know how old he really is.
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Yes I'm advocating kidnapping him, BTW Bill Livesey (YANKEES SCOUT) was at Petco field this weekend paying special attention to Chapman and even compared him to Brien Taylor if he would have panned out.
Ok after reading that here's the most important words
Bill Livesey - Yankees scout, watching Chapman :D
ngruz25
03-21-09, 03:31 PM
I like how all that video does it highlight his awesome inverted-W.
Stache Fan
03-21-09, 03:50 PM
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Ok after reading that here's the most important words
Bill Livesey - Yankees scout, watching Chapman :D
Heh... Checkmate! :NY: :rockin:
Matsui55
03-21-09, 03:59 PM
I like how all that video does it highlight his awesome inverted-W.
It really isn't much of a W- in fact, its more like a V than a W.
This is all from the unprofessional eye (I'm not a scout or a pitching coach)- but what I WOULD be worried about is the "whip" action he uses in this delivery. His pitching arm "whips" the ball forward, then has a violent "recoil" at the end. Liraino uses this and see where that has gotten him.
The bigger question is this- is his pitching delivery fixable? In other words, if you eliminate the "whip and recoil," does it eliminate that monster FB? I read that the Twins are working on trying to eliminate Liriano's recoil, but he still "relapses" and does it. The Twins apparently believe that the recoil is what caused his 2 arm injuries.
After watching Chapman, I see a lot of Liriano there. THAT is what I would worry about.
JavyVazquezIsSick
03-22-09, 11:19 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZE0iQmsFSms
Pretty incredible stuff
teknetic
03-22-09, 11:53 AM
Wonder what it's gonna take for us to not nab him.
AcidLake
03-22-09, 02:59 PM
It really isn't much of a W- in fact, its more like a V than a W.
This is all from the unprofessional eye (I'm not a scout or a pitching coach)- but what I WOULD be worried about is the "whip" action he uses in this delivery. His pitching arm "whips" the ball forward, then has a violent "recoil" at the end. Liraino uses this and see where that has gotten him.
The bigger question is this- is his pitching delivery fixable? In other words, if you eliminate the "whip and recoil," does it eliminate that monster FB? I read that the Twins are working on trying to eliminate Liriano's recoil, but he still "relapses" and does it. The Twins apparently believe that the recoil is what caused his 2 arm injuries.
After watching Chapman, I see a lot of Liriano there. THAT is what I would worry about.
i actually don't buy this 'inverted w' or 'inverted v' bs a lot nowadays and the inventor of these terms, chris o'leary, is getting knocked around by many many baseball people in the instruction world right now. he apparently lately quit boarding and just moved on to his blogging and such
that being said, even if we are to believe on his terms, i don't think his elbow elevates over the shoulder level and you know what, with greater velocity there comes a greater risk of stress of the arm. liriano's injury was also helped by that nasty hard slider he frequently threw imo. and imo what people percieve as 'whip' in the end would be just that recoiling of the arm after the ball release. other pitchers do have whippy arm actions yet they do an excellent job of decelerating their arms, therefore the better chance of arm health. whip is not a bad thing, the recoil is
yarosh25
03-23-09, 09:27 AM
From the video posted by Javy, he does have a power fastball, but his secondary stuff are flat and his control and command are almost nonexistent, especially on secondary pitches, his breaking ball in the video is almost always up. But as they say you can teach mechanics and control but you can't teach LH 94-99 MPH fastball.
Snatch Catch
03-23-09, 09:30 AM
From the video posted by Javy, he does have a power fastball, but his secondary stuff are flat and his control and command are almost nonexistent, especially on secondary pitches, his breaking ball in the video is almost always up. But as they say you can teach mechanics and control but you can't teach LH 94-99 MPH fastball.
I'd be all about him, even considering these shortcomings, if he was 20-21 years old for sure.
Given that he could be 25-26, there's a legitimate chance he's nothing more than a setups guy if what he is now is his ceiling.
JavyVazquezIsSick
03-23-09, 09:38 AM
I just don't understand that line of thinking, why can't you re-work mechanics past the age of 20-21 years.
AcidLake
04-06-09, 08:26 AM
i do not know how legit this would be, (well, the news website itself is very credible) but yankees are apparently on battle with dodgers to sign this korean prospect.
http://news.naver.com/main/read.nhn?mode=LS2D&mid=sec&sid1=001&sid2=107&oid=073&aid=0001990378
the dude's name is sung-bum na. lefty, sophomore in yun-sae university and according to some, he is better than other young players who participated in WBC such as hyun-jin ryu, kwang-hyun kim, etc. but i am not sure about that. what i've heard is that he can hit 93mph (hit about 90mph with his arm not being in midseason form) with acceptable control (did not allow a walk in the game where scouts where watching)
the estimated bonus, according to the article, would be 2 million dollars. he had an overuse injury before being drafted after his high school career; he opted to go to college and it seems that his stuff is back
wang+cano=future
04-06-09, 09:11 AM
I am sure they are just reacting to the Tazawa signing. ;)
Stache Fan
04-07-09, 02:07 PM
i do not know how legit this would be, (well, the news website itself is very credible) but yankees are apparently on battle with dodgers to sign this korean prospect.
http://news.naver.com/main/read.nhn?mode=LS2D&mid=sec&sid1=001&sid2=107&oid=073&aid=0001990378
the dude's name is sung-bum na. lefty, sophomore in yun-sae university and according to some, he is better than other young players who participated in WBC such as hyun-jin ryu, kwang-hyun kim, etc. but i am not sure about that. what i've heard is that he can hit 93mph (hit about 90mph with his arm not being in midseason form) with acceptable control (did not allow a walk in the game where scouts where watching)
the estimated bonus, according to the article, would be 2 million dollars. he had an overuse injury before being drafted after his high school career; he opted to go to college and it seems that his stuff is back
Might as well try to sign him, but I'm sure Gammons will find a way vto trash it.
and why did you post the link, it's in another language?
bmxstreetrider86
04-07-09, 02:22 PM
not about signings but BA has a nice writeup on the WBC's top prospects on thier website
hallofamer2000
04-07-09, 05:46 PM
i do not know how legit this would be, (well, the news website itself is very credible) but yankees are apparently on battle with dodgers to sign this korean prospect.
http://news.naver.com/main/read.nhn?mode=LS2D&mid=sec&sid1=001&sid2=107&oid=073&aid=0001990378
the dude's name is sung-bum na. lefty, sophomore in yun-sae university and according to some, he is better than other young players who participated in WBC such as hyun-jin ryu, kwang-hyun kim, etc. but i am not sure about that. what i've heard is that he can hit 93mph (hit about 90mph with his arm not being in midseason form) with acceptable control (did not allow a walk in the game where scouts where watching)
the estimated bonus, according to the article, would be 2 million dollars. he had an overuse injury before being drafted after his high school career; he opted to go to college and it seems that his stuff is back
I put that through a translator site:
Park, Kim and amateur athletes since the country's super big deal 'birth was imminent. Myeongmuntim Choi, as Major League Baseball New York Yankees and LA Dodgers left-handed pitcher is a student at Yonsei University, Year 2 naseongbeom (20) and the big contract is pursuing. whopping seven teams in addition to the team's interest in the ransom of $ 2,000,000 is expected to have this out. $ 2,000,000 to $ 2,250,000 received in 1999 for the Arizona Diamondbacks Kim, who is joining the biggest. this season in Major League Baseball teams, South Korea rush to sign players, but yieoji interest naseong pan, which is the major league players and qualitatively different from the rest of the down payment if you ask aeksuman. Yonsei University last month, 24 days Walkthrough of Chapter 10 of the game at the Major League ilsangu scouts and agents gathered was crowded. Yonsei University, a major league club side to side in the two months that the official offer will come soon if conditions right deals said. South Korea has never been brought players in the New York Yankees made the move. Naseong last year, and domestic teams, and get information about the killers, nine year dispatch directly to the boy and said to be active. LA Dodgers scout anbyeong Korean at Yonsei University last winter training camp at the time of exchange naseong by Mr. Pan went chekeuha physical fitness here. The Padres are looking to belong, and the Philadelphia and Seattle. naseong the end of last month already in the pan was the inquiry of the major league. Yonsei University, the deposit is more than $ 2,000,000 contract with the university to be held in Ha jeonggijeon year after 9 naseong will have to send killers to the United States. jingooj @ jeongjingu News
Interpret as you wish.....
jdelavalle
04-08-09, 11:52 AM
According to a recent article on ESPN that says the top signing bonus out of the Dominican Republic this year would be disputed between outfielder Wagner Mateo (from same academy as Inoa), shortstop Miguel Angel Sano, and catchers Jacob Beltre and Gary Sanchez.
Another interesting player out there is Noel Arguellez (the cuban who fled the junior team in canada, represented by viciedo's same agent) The lefty apparently throws 93-95 with a good curve. No recent updates on him, but it'll be interesting to see what happens. Victor Payano and Miguel Sel Cairo are two other tall dominican lefty's that already throw in the mid 90s
I also recently heard that there are at least two Korean outfielders supposed to get signing bonuses close to 7 figures
Tonyf629
04-08-09, 12:22 PM
Can someone help me understand why we haven’t heard about any early signings like there was last year? Im sure its possible we did not have any but im just curious about that. I can't wait to hear who were interested in on this years IFA group. Im looking forward to picking up a nice OF bat to replace Tabata's ceiling in the system.
Tonyf629
04-08-09, 12:23 PM
mistake repost
YESSIR!
04-08-09, 01:15 PM
i do not know how legit this would be, (well, the news website itself is very credible) but yankees are apparently on battle with dodgers to sign this korean prospect.
http://news.naver.com/main/read.nhn?mode=LS2D&mid=sec&sid1=001&sid2=107&oid=073&aid=0001990378
the dude's name is sung-bum na. lefty, sophomore in yun-sae university and according to some, he is better than other young players who participated in WBC such as hyun-jin ryu, kwang-hyun kim, etc. but i am not sure about that. what i've heard is that he can hit 93mph (hit about 90mph with his arm not being in midseason form) with acceptable control (did not allow a walk in the game where scouts where watching)
the estimated bonus, according to the article, would be 2 million dollars. he had an overuse injury before being drafted after his high school career; he opted to go to college and it seems that his stuff is back
I so want to be able to root for a player named Sung-Bum Na.
budstinks
04-10-09, 10:56 AM
I so want to be able to root for a player named Sung-Bum Na.
I was thinking the same thing.
Does the na act like a negative? So he's the opposite of a bum?
budstinks
04-10-09, 10:57 AM
Can someone help me understand why we haven’t heard about any early signings like there was last year? Im sure its possible we did not have any but im just curious about that. I can't wait to hear who were interested in on this years IFA group. Im looking forward to picking up a nice OF bat to replace Tabata's ceiling in the system.
I was thinking the same thing, I'm Greedy. Where's this years Aceves or Banuelos? lol.
Yankees' talks with Cuban exiles stall
Friday, April 17, 2009
Posted by Jorge Arangure Jr.
Negotiations between the New York Yankees and Cuban exile prospect Felix Perez have broken down because of the outfielder's problem in obtaining a visa from the U.S. Consulate in the Dominican Republic, according to several baseball sources.
http://insider.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?name=la_esquina
AcidLake
04-18-09, 07:30 AM
felix is a raw yet 5-tool talent guy. interesting...
Yankees1962
04-18-09, 07:55 AM
felix is a raw yet 5-tool talent guy. interesting...
He's a lot older than that reported 20 years old too.
If a visa is the issue, then I am not too worried about someone else signing him out from under us ;).
Tonyf629
04-19-09, 01:10 AM
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=es&u=http://espndeportes.espn.go.com/news/print%3Fid%3D796644%26type%3DblogEntry&ei=Er_qSc6wC4OGtgfcyMDEBQ&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=1&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3DNoel%2BArguelles%2Byankees%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26as_qdr%3Dd , I guess we are getting more than one deffector but can someone make sense of this article. I think it says we will probabley get Perez for less money but i can't really tell.
Yankees1962
04-19-09, 05:15 AM
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=es&u=http://espndeportes.espn.go.com/news/print%3Fid%3D796644%26type%3DblogEntry&ei=Er_qSc6wC4OGtgfcyMDEBQ&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=1&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3DNoel%2BArguelles%2Byankees%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26as_qdr%3Dd , I guess we are getting more than one deffector but can someone make sense of this article. I think it says we will probabley get Perez for less money but i can't really tell.
I can't translate your linked article, but the ESPN article indicated that the Yankees will probably still sign Perez despite his age issue, but for less money than the reported 3-3.5M. Also, the Yankees are in position to sign left-hander Noel Arguelles once MLB declares him a free agent. He throws around 93 mph and is reportedly 19 years old? which might or might not be true and he worked for Cashman, Newman and Mata.
Iknowcool
04-19-09, 12:44 PM
Two scouts with American League organizations independently arrived at the same conclusion about Iglesias,. "He’s a stud," one of the scouts said. "He’s a plus run and plus arm Orlando Cabrera clone. He’s got a quick bat but I didn’t see much power.
Arguelles, whose name was misspelled on this blog previously, was pegged as a first-round talent. "It’s a three-quarters slot with a clean stroke," the scout said. "He’s very intriguing." Another scout said Arguelles reminded him in some ways of Twins lefty Francisco Liriano.
http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/prospects/?p=1615
Stache Fan
04-19-09, 01:24 PM
Cmon Cashman, let's buy ourselves some real prime talent this year.
JavyVazquezIsSick
04-29-09, 01:25 PM
Ed( San Diego,CA): Are there any Michael Inoa or Adys Portillo types in this year's international draft?
http://a.espncdn.com/i/sn2.gif Ben Badler: (2:23 PM ET ) No, Ynoa was a rare talent. I don't think there's anyone who eclipses $4.25 million this summer.
Grapeweasel, Newark: On the 1-10 scale, excitement over the International Class of 2009 is....
http://a.espncdn.com/i/sn2.gif Ben Badler: (2:24 PM ET ) An 8, mostly for the hitters at the top of the class and the uncertainty going on with regards to some of the ongoing investigations in Latin America.
wang+cano=future
04-29-09, 02:36 PM
Ed( San Diego,CA): Are there any Michael Inoa or Adys Portillo types in this year's international draft?
http://a.espncdn.com/i/sn2.gif Ben Badler: (2:23 PM ET ) No, Ynoa was a rare talent. I don't think there's anyone who eclipses $4.25 million this summer.
Grapeweasel, Newark: On the 1-10 scale, excitement over the International Class of 2009 is....
http://a.espncdn.com/i/sn2.gif Ben Badler: (2:24 PM ET ) An 8, mostly for the hitters at the top of the class and the uncertainty going on with regards to some of the ongoing investigations in Latin America.
This makes me :mad: .
Snatch Catch
04-29-09, 02:50 PM
What Badler fails to mention is that it was more than Ynoa's talent that had his dollar value up to $4+ mil. The market had been artificially inflated for years, and last year it went even more nuts.
Also of note, Ynoa has yet to report to the States because of "personal reasons."
albo4lyfe
04-29-09, 05:03 PM
Don't know why that person mentioned Portillo in there with Inoa. From everything I've read, Portillo is hardly Earth-shattering of a prospect.
Blackdragon905
05-01-09, 10:06 PM
Hey guys, who are some of the big time international free agents we should be hoping the yanks can sign this year? I believe this is supposed to be a good year of talent, but I could be wrong. Thanks.
wang+cano=future
05-04-09, 01:21 PM
"Much younger than Strasburg, but no less pursued, is a terrific 15-year-old shortstop in the Dominican Republic named Miguel Angel Sano who is seen as one of the best prospects available in the upcoming July 2 international free-agent class for 16-year-olds.
And the Pirates are one of ... well, 30 teams interested in him, with word that the young man's bonus could reach $3 million, miles above the Dominican average bonus of $108,000. And the Pirates' entire budget for international players last year was $2 million, so this venture would require quite the extra expenditure on the part of ownership.
Still, the Pirates, known to have been on Sano's trail for an extended period, are seen as one of the favorites."
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09123/967312-63.stm
JavyVazquezIsSick
05-04-09, 01:24 PM
I wonder how old he actually is?
THEBOSS84
05-04-09, 01:31 PM
Yes please.
Tonyf629
05-04-09, 04:24 PM
"Moreno keeps a running list of the teams Sano has tried out for, and he chuckles when asked about it. As he starts to list off teams that are interested in Sano — Boston, Tampa, the New York Yankees, Seattle, Texas, Houston, the Chicago Cubs, Colorado — it becomes clear he’s talking about every team in MLB."
http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/sports/090427/dominican-dreams-part-2?page=0,1
Also found some news on potential July 2nd signings,
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=es&u=http://espndeportes.espn.go.com/blogs/index%3Fname%3Djorge_arangure&ei=Jlz_SYupMJXEMo2DucAE&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=5&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3D%2522Miguel%2BAngel%2BSano%2522%2Byankee%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26start%3D30
bmxstreetrider86
05-04-09, 04:46 PM
I wonder how old he actually is?
the real question is, how many times will his name change between now and july 2nd.
also, id obviously love to get him
JavyVazquezIsSick
05-04-09, 06:20 PM
the real question is, how many times will his name change between now and july 2nd.
He's actually Salcedo.
bmxstreetrider86
05-04-09, 06:24 PM
He's actually Salcedo.
or michael inoa, or michel inoa, or michael ynoa?
Stache Fan
05-04-09, 06:40 PM
or michael inoa, or michel inoa, or michael ynoa?
Michel Ynoa.
bmxstreetrider86
05-04-09, 06:46 PM
Michel Ynoa.
i know, he has been known by all 3 of those names since signing
yankeelover
05-04-09, 08:07 PM
From people I trust, the five big names from the Dominican Republic this coming summer are:
Outfielder, Wagner Mateo - 5-tool player
Shortstop, Russell Herrera - already 6-foot-4 at 15 years old
LHP, Mariosal Cairo - plus curve already, sits 88-89 at 15 years old
LHP, Victor Payano - 6-foot-4 lefty at 15 years old!
RHP, Anderson Encarnacion - 6-foot-5 and sits 91-93
From the video he seems to be a keeper. Wouldn't mind getting him, but I'm not going to get my hopes up this time around.
Thanks for the info by the way, lover.
DominicanYankee
05-05-09, 08:43 AM
From the video he seems to be a keeper. Wouldn't mind getting him, but I'm not going to get my hopes up this time around.
Thanks for the info by the way, lover.
I have the feeling the Yankees will sign one of those lefties
MooseCaLLinTheBronx
05-05-09, 12:05 PM
Check out this site guys
http://dominicanbaseballuniverse.blogspot.com/
wang+cano=future
05-05-09, 12:06 PM
Check out this site guys
http://dominicanbaseballuniverse.blogspot.com/
"Now I know most of you want news on prospects, I will tell you that Gary Sanchez the super prospect will sign with the Yankees."
I think he was said to be a catcher who will get one of the top bonuses this year.
:D :D
Snatch Catch
05-05-09, 12:26 PM
:lol:
A.J. Preller for Dominicans “A JAY”, the guy is short skinny and very young, some New York Yankee official wanted to beat the crap out of him in Estadio Quisqueya and he flew the scene running faster that Usain Bolt, despite the fact that the Rangers are growing old on Dominican Buscones or baseball business men, you can’t take away from A.J the credit he deserves, they are signing a lot of talented players at a discount, Kudos to them
Check out this site guys
http://dominicanbaseballuniverse.blogspot.com/
Thanks. A very good site.
Posada_20
05-05-09, 12:48 PM
"Now I know most of you want news on prospects, I will tell you that Gary Sanchez the super prospect will sign with the Yankees."
I think he was said to be a catcher who will get one of the top bonuses this year.
:D :D
Well, Happy Cinco Da Mayo then!!!
justtxyank
05-05-09, 12:53 PM
I refuse to get excited about anyone this year.
Blackdragon905
05-05-09, 01:26 PM
This is from the comments section about Gary Sanchez, the catcher and about another prospect:
Question:
"this is the first time i've heard of Gary Sanchez? do you know anything about him?"
Answer:
"I have seen him on several tryouts, once he did 2 tryouts in one day first to cashman then with Omar minaya. Best power hitter this year, him and another pitcher are the top 2 players the yanks want to sign.
The yanks signed an SS for 300,000 last week he was suppose to be 16; turned out to be 18 soon to be 19.
As a 16 yr old Boston had 1.3 million for him, with the new age the yanks got him for 300,000. I think they overpayed but thats the yanks."
http://dominicanbaseballuniverse.blogspot.com/2009/05/best-international-scouting-directors.html#comments
NY_GOLDENARMS
05-05-09, 02:06 PM
"FIVE QUESTIONS: Gary Sanchez, Dominican amateur prospect
During the last couple weeks of spring training, Gary Sanchez, the 16-year-old catching phenom from Villa Mella in the Dominican Republic, went on a whirlwind workout tour that will likely set him up for a big bonus day come the July 2 signing date. In all, Sanchez's representatives say at least 10 teams are seriously interested in the catcher. I sat down with Sanchez on his final workout day on March 30 at the Giants' complex in Scottsdale.
1. HAS ALL OF THIS BEEN NERVE RACKIN? I just try not to pressure myself. Back in the Dominican, I've worked out for several teams and in front of a lot of people, so I quickly learned to erase all that pressure. When I came here, I had the experience of having been through so many workouts from when I was younger, as early as 14-years-old. And that helps keep the pressure away. I feel I've pretty much improved in everything [since those early workout]. I've gotten stronger, I've learned to hit better. These workouts aren't anything different for me. I feel no pressure. They're the ones who want to see me. Why should I get nervous?
Jorge ArangureGary's in the runnings for top Dominican amateur signing bonus this year.
2. HOW FREQENTLY HAVE YOU BEEN TALKING TO YOUR FAMILY AT HOME SINCE YOU'VE BEEN IN THE U.S.? I talk to them every day. Each time they ask me how I did. And I tell them I did well every day, which of course makes them very happy. I speak to them in the evening, usually around 7-8 p.m.
3. HOW DID YOU GET STARTED PLAYING BASEBALL? I used to go to the baseball fields since I was a little kid and I loved to play. I signed up for a league. My brother (Miguel Sanchez) signed last year with the Seattle Mariners. I was like 8 years old when I started to go to those baseball fields. I never played another sport.
4. HOW DID YOU END UP AS A CATCHER? Well when I first started, I was an outfielder. But I really didn't know how to play out there. They used to send me out to left field. Then they put me at third base. When I would go home, I used to play around with a rubber ball trying to learn how to play catcher. I told my coaches to put me at catcher because we had a really good third baseman on my team and he used to play while I sat on the bench. I wanted to play catcher so that I didn't have to sit on the bench. And that's how I got started there. I then noticed that I did really well playing there. And that's the position I like best now, since playing that position will get me the best bonus. I mean I mean I like playing third too, but they used to put me on the bench because of that other third baseman! He was better than me at that point.
5. DID YOU HAVE GROWING PAINS LEARNING TO PLAY CATCHER? At first it was really difficult. I used to mess up my thumb all the time when catching really good pitchers. I never played with younger kids. I was always playing with older kids who threw really hard, which really hurt my thumb at first. But then I got used to it.
NOTES FROM THE CORNER:
•The fight for the top Dominican amateur bonus this year appears to be between Sanchez, outfielder Wagner Mateo, catcher Jacob Beltre and shortstop Miguel Angel Sano. No player is expected to receive as much as the $4.2 million given last year by the Oakland A's to pitcher Michel Inoa. The most interesting fight within the fight may be between the catchers Sanchez and Beltre. Both are clearly at the top of their positions, and both wield powerful bats. Of the two, scouts say that Sanchez is more advanced defensively, but one National league scout said he still prefers Beltre, who was formerly an outfielder making the transition to catcher. "To me Beltre plays the game with more passion than I've seen with Sanchez," he said. "Beltre just has an enthusiasm you can't teach."
•Several sources expect the Texas Rangers to be major players in the signing market this summer. Last year, the Rangers were heavily in competition to sign Inoa and pitcher Adys Portillo, who received $2 million from the Padres, but missed out on both. In this class, the Rangers are known to covet left-handed slugger Guillermo Pimentel, whom one scout described as one of the best pure hitters on the market. "
http://www.forums.mlb.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?tsn=255&nav=messages&webtag=ml-giants&tid=107446
NY_GOLDENARMS
05-05-09, 02:09 PM
The yanks signed an SS for 300,000 last week he was suppose to be 16; turned out to be 18 soon to be 19.
As a 16 yr old Boston had 1.3 million for him, with the new age the yanks got him for 300,000. I think they overpayed but thats the yanks."
http://dominicanbaseballuniverse.blogspot.com/2009/05/best-international-scouting-directors.html#comments
Sounds very similar to what they did with SS Jose Mojica who turned out to be 18 when they signed him.
budstinks
05-05-09, 02:14 PM
The yanks signed an SS for 300,000 last week he was suppose to be 16; turned out to be 18 soon to be 19.
As a 16 yr old Boston had 1.3 million for him, with the new age the yanks got him for 300,000. I think they overpayed but thats the yanks."
http://dominicanbaseballuniverse.blogspot.com/2009/05/best-international-scouting-directors.html#comments
That's not Salcedo, is it?
Fabien Brandy
05-05-09, 04:14 PM
That guy needs a better Latin name than Gary. I can't take him seriously as a phenom.
Iknowcool
05-05-09, 05:09 PM
I like his honesty, hes playing catcher so he'll get a bigger bonus.
yankeelover
05-05-09, 09:16 PM
That's not Salcedo, is it?
His name is Jerison Lopez.:D
Micky Rivers's Bat
05-06-09, 07:48 PM
great site, been looking for a resource like this.
http://dominicanbaseballuniverse.blogspot.com/2009/05/salcedo-case.html
Posada_20
05-07-09, 09:08 AM
His name is Jerison Lopez.:D
Googled his name. Can't find him on internet. How did you get this info? By the way, $300,000 is overpaying? Thats chump change today.
yankeelover
05-07-09, 09:27 AM
I asked Patrick at PinstripesPlus. He answered that the only signing he was aware of was the shortstop, Jerison Lopez.
NY_GOLDENARMS
05-07-09, 04:15 PM
If you have read this much, now I have some Bonus for you, early this week I was told that the apparent signing of Outfielder Guillermo Pimentel by the Texas Ranger was put on hold. Supposedly the Rangers had held this prospect for more than 2 months (Violating the rules) on their academy and had offered a bonus raging from 1.5 to 2 millions. The Yankees made a formal complaint to MLB and now the Rangers might not be eligible to sign the prospect.
http://dominicanbaseballuniverse.blogspot.com/
CallOfTheCrow
05-07-09, 04:19 PM
How do you just hold the kid at the academy?
justtxyank
05-07-09, 04:36 PM
How do you just hold the kid at the academy?
With a rope.
Iknowcool
05-07-09, 06:12 PM
Not hard, have a chef cook five star food, give him a great room with a plasma and ps3, bring in some prostitutes, make it so he doesn't wanna leave.
Blackdragon905
05-07-09, 10:39 PM
Ok maybe this is stupid, but who exactly is Eduardo Salcedo? I always here about him and how he hasn't signed I think because of his birth certificate. But what exactly is his ceiling and should the Yanks sign him?
Scallinno
05-08-09, 12:48 PM
Don't know if anyone saw this. It's a story from ESPN on Venezuelan and Colombian prospects.
http://insider.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?name=la_esquina
Says we're looking at "Colombian prospect Leonardo Fuentes, a 16-year-old, 6-foot-3 power-hitting outfielder", and Sanchez is "likely" to sign with us for between 2-3 mill.
Snatch Catch
05-08-09, 01:45 PM
Hmmm...seems like that Dominican Baseball blog has some legs...
yankeelover
05-09-09, 04:24 PM
Leonardo Fuentes is a lefthanded power hitter. Sanchez bats from the right side.
R we interested in any of these guys?
MLB Suspends Top Latin American Prospects
http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/prospects/international-affairs/2009/268082.html
About the Yankees prospects, all year long I have heard that the Yankees priorities are Rafael de Paula and Gary Sanchez, I believe Gary Sanchez will ink with the Yanks.
Some weeks ago I was told about the Yankees pursuit of either Mateo or Gulliermo Pimentel, An agent told me he thought that Mateo was going to sign for around 2.5 million with the yanks, then word came that the yankees placed a complain on MLB regarding Pimentel and the Texas Rangers.
De Paula is not a sure thing, there is an issue about his eligibility to sing ( I'll make a whole blog about this kid later on) plus the Red Sox are also very high on him, and since the Red Sox are smoother in the way they negotiate it might be very possible that De Paula ends up signing with them.
http://dominicanbaseballuniverse.blogspot.com/2009/05/answering-questions.html
Combine with the BA news, it seems that the issue of De Paula's eligibility is about misrepresenting his age.
ArodMVP217
05-11-09, 05:24 PM
demasiado joven? dePaula, Sancez y Mateo seri'a fabuloso
Blackdragon905
05-11-09, 06:28 PM
Wow, from that video, Mateo looks like the real deal. He has a beautiful swing and it looks like he generates really good power too, along with having a good arm, and pretty good speed too. I hope the yanks sign him and the other top guys. That would be great!
R we interested in any of these guys?
MLB Suspends Top Latin American Prospects
http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/prospects/international-affairs/2009/268082.html De Paula.
Micky Rivers's Bat
05-11-09, 09:31 PM
Wow, from that video, Mateo looks like the real deal. He has a beautiful swing and it looks like he generates really good power too, along with having a good arm, and pretty good speed too. I hope the yanks sign him and the other top guys. That would be great!
No kidding. He looks good.
JavyVazquezIsSick
05-12-09, 08:01 AM
The buscón scoffs at his critics. "All I want is to have the best 30 players in the Dominican," Mercedes says. "They can have the rest." He adds that he's selling his gambling halls "to give peace of mind to people in baseball and to dedicate myself to this business." His latest prize prospect, Wagner Mateo, is a sweet-swinging outfielder who will compete for this year's highest signing bonus, likely more than $2 million.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espnmag/story?id=3974952
The most promising player in the BPBA is 16-year-old, 6’2”, Wagner Mateo OF who leads the four players with strong hitting, power, speed, and defensive tools. The others are shortstop Rosel Herrera and pitchers Victor Payano and Mario Sel Cairo. All four players attended spring training in Florida by invitation this year as a way to evaluate them in the United States.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/156718-international-signing-day-an-early-look-at-some-dominican-prospects
Really want him.
wang+cano=future
05-12-09, 08:10 AM
Landing Mateo, De Paula and Sanchez would be awesome. The age-issue with De Paula might prevent a signing though....
JavyVazquezIsSick
05-12-09, 08:42 AM
I really want high ceiling position prospects. Mateo is exactly what this team needs.
This team could also use a SS prospect.
NY_GOLDENARMS
05-12-09, 11:57 AM
I really want high ceiling position prospects. Mateo is exactly what this team needs.
This team could also use a SS prospect.
Yep, the Yankee system needs an infusion of high ceiling position prospects and Mateo, Sanchez and Sano are on my wishlist.
Michaels07
05-12-09, 10:23 PM
Stick with the gringo`s in the June Draft for immediate help.
budstinks
05-13-09, 09:38 AM
Stick with the gringo`s in the June Draft for immediate help.
That might work if you drafted in the top 10. But from where the Yankees draft, they need to get talent and use their resources at all opportunities across the world.
Heck, if there is a Martian that can throw 99, sign him too.
ArodMVP217
05-13-09, 09:54 AM
we don't have to play the race card here. we can get pitchers and pos players from both amateur talent pools
but yes, load up on 5 tool athletes up the middle and hope they can maintain the most important tool down
albo4lyfe
05-13-09, 11:25 AM
I really want high ceiling position prospects. Mateo is exactly what this team needs.
This team could also use a SS prospect.
Yup, thanks to Angelini blowing chunks again this year.
kongull
05-13-09, 01:10 PM
Yup, thanks to Angelini blowing chunks again this year.
people keep saying hes a prospect, i keep looking and havent found anything that suggests that.
JavyVazquezIsSick
05-13-09, 02:06 PM
Jake H (Kansas City, KS): Ben, can you tell me about these 2 latin guys(Rafael de Paula and Gary Sanchez) who are looking to get taken up on July 2nd?
Ben Badler: (3:06 PM ET ) Rafael DePaula was supposed to be a July 2 guy last year who was still unsigned, but he will not be signing because MLB has suspended him. I'll have more on Sanchez at BA soon, but he is one of the top prospects for this July 2.
........
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09135/970290-63.stm
Story on Miguel Angel Sano from Pittsburgh paper. Article states he's already over the $3M range, it will probably take $4M to get him. Obviously it's agent-speak, but here is what his said:
"Based on what I've seen and heard from talent evaluators, his upside is that he's Albert Pujols in Hanley Ramirez's body," Plummer said of the stars of the St. Louis Cardinals and Florida Marlins, respectively. "He might not stay at short the way Ramirez has, but he's been compared to Pujols' bat because of a short, compact swing with lots of power."
Matsui55
05-15-09, 07:36 AM
Stick with the gringo`s in the June Draft for immediate help.
One factor that may end Yankee hopes in the draft is that Keith Law is hearing fom scouts that the slotting system is dead- in that teams will freely ignore it this year, leading to top players being picked in spots based on talent, not signability.
Thus, the likelihood of a top 10/15 player falling to the Yanks is much reduced. Instead, they will get the usual middling guy who isn't likely to make a big impact at 27A.
Add in that the Yanks now have no 3rd rounder, I think they are stuck in the position of having to "go big" in Latin America this year to get impact talent.
Just because they won't screw up the first round doesn't mean we won't be able to make good signings later on. Another Austin Jackson/Betances/Melancon special would be nice.
JavyVazquezIsSick
05-15-09, 09:07 AM
Just kill this draft, there are no restrictions, it amazes me, we don't rape every year.
NY_GOLDENARMS
05-15-09, 09:36 AM
Just kill this draft, there are no restrictions, it amazes me, we don't rape every year.
I agree, there are teams with much less resources that are out working the Yankees. What a HUGE area of missed opportunity but they have been better the last couple of years and we'll soon see what we have in all the bats they signed last year.
Snatch Catch
05-15-09, 09:44 AM
I think there's been some weird stuff going on with the draft in recent years, that goes unsaid, in terms of doing things to not piss people off.
I too hope they just unleash the fury at some point, but I doubt it.
That said, I'm not at all "down" on the Yankees drafting in recent years.
yankeelover
05-15-09, 05:02 PM
Mark Newman has been spending a significant amount of time in Latin America. It will surprise me if his effort (and money) aren't rewarded handsomely.
kongull
05-15-09, 05:07 PM
Just kill this draft, there are no restrictions, it amazes me, we don't rape every year.
this....
NY_GOLDENARMS
05-15-09, 05:12 PM
I'm assuming he was talking about the Intl FA signing period since he posted in this thread. My comments were pertaining to Intl FA's and not the draft.
yankeelover
05-16-09, 08:33 AM
Taken from the comment section of Dominican Baseball Universe:
"Now there are some players who are very special, if Gary Sanchez is not on roids and his age is real, he is worth more than 3 million easily."
Could be a blogger's BS or maybe the Yankees have something special if a deal with Sanchez does, in fact, become reality.
Taken from the comment section of Dominican Baseball Universe:
"Now there are some players who are very special, if Gary Sanchez is not on roids and his age is real, he is worth more than 3 million easily."
Could be a blogger's BS or maybe the Yankees have something special if a deal with Sanchez does, in fact, become reality.
The blogger seems to know what he is talking about. His blog quickly becomes one of my favorites.
The best sentence was the one following info on Sanchez;
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http://http://dominicanbaseballuniverse.blogspot.com/2009/05/chinese-raul-mondesi.html
"Now there are some players who are very special, if Gary Sanchez is not on roids and his age is real, he is worth more than 3 million easily.
One of the better indications that a kid was part of a scam is if the prospect is a 7 figure bonus and is left to play in the Dominican summer League."
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Does that ring any bells about Yankee Dominican OF prospects?
NY_GOLDENARMS
05-16-09, 12:47 PM
The best sentence was the one following info on Sanchez;
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http://http://dominicanbaseballuniverse.blogspot.com/2009/05/chinese-raul-mondesi.html
"Now there are some players who are very special, if Gary Sanchez is not on roids and his age is real, he is worth more than 3 million easily.
One of the better indications that a kid was part of a scam is if the prospect is a 7 figure bonus and is left to play in the Dominican summer League."
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Does that ring any bells about Yankee Dominican OF prospects?
Prospects? Not at all. The only one that qualifies is Kelvin Deleon and its already well known that he was part of the scam that got Rios and Valdivia fired.
Now if you want to talk about high six figure bonuses, the Yankees were completely duked into signing 3B Elio De La Rosa (850K) and OF Henry Pena (600K).
ICEBERG18
05-16-09, 01:37 PM
Now if you want to talk about high six figure bonuses, the Yankees were completely duked into signing 3B Elio De La Rosa (850K) and OF Henry Pena (600K).
Explain? Thanks..
NY_GOLDENARMS
05-16-09, 02:17 PM
Explain? Thanks..
If your a PP.com subscriber, they are nothing Rios described them to be and certainly not worth their signing bonuses.
JavyVazquezIsSick
05-16-09, 02:43 PM
Spend 10-15 mil, get some quality position players in your farm system. Just spend the money. That way down the road you don' have to hand out 200+ mil contracts. Seems so simple.
bmxstreetrider86
05-16-09, 03:18 PM
as long as we grab mateo or sano, im ok. if we get both id be thrilled
NY_GOLDENARMS
05-16-09, 03:24 PM
Spend 10-15 mil, get some quality position players in your farm system. Just spend the money. That way down the road you don' have to hand out 200+ mil contracts. Seems so simple.
I agree but they also need to have quality, trustworthy scouts and enough of them to scour the entire country looking for hidden gems early in their teens and evaluation process so they can establish relationships. They seem to settle for the low lying fruit, the well known players or players that show up at the complex or surrounding areas for tryouts.
JavyVazquezIsSick
05-16-09, 03:34 PM
as long as we grab mateo or sano, im ok. if we get both id be thrilled
I want both and then Sanchez.
CallOfTheCrow
05-16-09, 07:48 PM
I got excited when they said they'd hoard the talent last year. This year I want it done.
yankeelover
05-18-09, 09:25 PM
From the Dominican Baseball Universe blogger:
"Since I dont want to be like this guys who do not provide accurate Info, I must update on a previous information, the SS who supposely was going to be signed by the yanks for a 300,000 bonus, is now on the verge to be suspended by MLB despite the fact that he confessed to his "real" age.
It might be a case where he lied about his "real" age again, or that MLB are going to punish him despite the fact that he was told that if he confesses he was going to sign with his real name. Needless to say baseball people are not happy with this."
The kid that intrigues me is this Capellan he mentioned. A line drive hitter who stands in to midnineties heat at 16 is fast and has a gun for an arm is someone I want this summer.
JavyVazquezIsSick
05-20-09, 08:57 AM
When can the Yankees start signing players?
THEBOSS84
05-20-09, 08:57 AM
July 2nd.
Tonyf629
05-20-09, 09:32 AM
http://dominicanbaseballuniverse.blogspot.com/2009/05/so-much-and-nothing-to-say.html#comment-form
"Someone who works for a very prominent U.S. agent told me that the Yanks have actually a chance of signing Sano, his company feels that Mark Newman and Rob Plummer are very good friend and with Carlos Rios gone players from Plummer will get offers more to his liking (Remember Aramboles) I don’t know if this is true, last year the yankees signed an outfield from Plummer and I think Carlos was still over there not sure."
I we got Sano and Sanchez, it would be murdering the IFA class by the yanks. It would be our best haul in a while. If you added Wagner Mateo too i don't know what you can call it. Overall if we get two out of the three (Sanchez, Sano, & Mateo) and have a decent draft i think we will all have a really good summer. Im excited about this year becasuse i feel like we havent drafted that well in recent and shyed away from the top guys last year; and now we are out to do some business. I bet after this summer yankees are a top ten farm system.
JavyVazquezIsSick
05-20-09, 09:38 AM
We have a chance of signing Sano. Not exactly breaking news.
I definitely want all three. No excuses. Drop 10-15. Get it done, get some premium young talented position players on this team.
Tonyf629
05-20-09, 10:14 AM
It's not "breaking news" but significant when you consider the fact Sano has almost every MLB team after him. A chance to get somebody sounds good when your up against about 30 other teams. Plus any news is better than none and it's nice to hear we are trying to sign some good players.
JavyVazquezIsSick
05-20-09, 10:18 AM
Don't all 30 teams have chances? It would nice to hear him say, the Yankees are the front runners or there is a very good chance. I guess it's just semantics, but I'm not getting excited over that article.
In addition, you always want the Yankees involved in any bidding, even if you don't want to sign there.
Considering the huge advantage they have given Wang, I'm surprised the Yanks have done nothing of substance in Taiwan.
ICEBERG18
05-21-09, 12:32 PM
(http://www.baseballamerica.com/online/prospects/international-affairs/2009/268162.html)
http://www.baseballamerica.com/images/gsanchez09428309cw.jpg (http://www.baseballamerica.com/online/prospects/international-affairs/2009/268162.html)
Catcher Gary Sanchez is expected to sign with the Yankees
http://www.baseballamerica.com/online/prospects/international-affairs/2009/268162.html
JavyVazquezIsSick
05-21-09, 12:32 PM
holy shi* :drool:
Someone tell me what that article says please
kongull
05-21-09, 12:38 PM
He can't be signed till July 2nd right? Is it too early to determine such a thing or its common to see such announcements a month in advance
bmxstreetrider86
05-21-09, 12:41 PM
sanchez sounds pretty awesome
AcidLake
05-21-09, 12:48 PM
does he have a montero syndrome aka people think he's too big for a catcher?
geodork
05-21-09, 01:04 PM
does he have a montero syndrome aka people think he's too big for a catcher?
Nope, 6-2 190. Should be fine behind the dish. Fast pop times, ~1.8, which is similar to Romine I think.
Stache Fan
05-21-09, 01:20 PM
http://www.baseballamerica.com/images/gsanchez09428309cw.jpg (http://www.baseballamerica.com/online/prospects/international-affairs/2009/268162.html)
Catcher Gary Sanchez is expected to sign with the Yankees
http://www.baseballamerica.com/online/prospects/international-affairs/2009/268162.html
Say what? I'm thrilled, but I could have sworn he was an OF! Was he converted?
JavyVazquezIsSick
05-21-09, 01:25 PM
Signing Sanchez, Sano, and Mateo would make me so happy.
CallOfTheCrow
05-21-09, 01:27 PM
Pillage & Plunder.
AcidLake
05-21-09, 01:27 PM
if they sign depaula, i'd be the happiest man in july 2nd
yankstaketitle
05-21-09, 02:40 PM
In that picture, he has a Yankee cap on!
JavyVazquezIsSick
05-21-09, 02:46 PM
In that picture, he has a Yankee cap on!
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http://insider.espn.go.com/espn/print?id=4052730&type=blogEntry
yankstaketitle
05-21-09, 02:48 PM
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well that sucks
THEBOSS84
05-21-09, 02:49 PM
If I'm not mistaken, a team can have a specific player in their facility for as long as 30 days. That could mean he was in the Yankees facility for a time and wore their goods, and he was at SF's for another time and wore their goods as well.
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