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JavyVazquezIsSick
07-14-08, 08:11 PM
With Houston as far out of the NL Central as possible and Berkman owed some change the next 2 years, any chance Houston looks to move him? I'm bored.


Lance Berkman 1b-of
6 years/$85M (2005-2010), plus $15M 2011 club option

05:$10.5M, 06-10:$14.5M/year, 11:$15M club option ($2M buyout)
full no-trade clause
Berkman to donate $100,000/year to club charity
MVP award bonus:
$0.5M for 1st place in voting
$0.35M for 2nd place in voting
$0.25M for 3rd place in voting

signed extension 3/05, replacing 1 year/$10.5M contract for 2005
avoided arbitration 1/05 ($11M-$10M)
3 years/$10.5M (2002-04)
02:$0.5M, 03:$3.5M, 04:$6.5M
award bonus: $25,000 for All Star selection
drafted 1997 (1-16), $1M signing bonus
agent: Michael Moye (formerly Larry Berkman)
ML service: 8.052-Cots

a yankeesfan
07-14-08, 08:12 PM
Doesn't seem like a bad contract.

webassign
07-14-08, 08:20 PM
Is there a secret stash of NYYFans crack cocaine that I don't know about?

nnysiny
07-14-08, 09:34 PM
sure, lets acquire the face of the Astros with a modest contract. maybe he can be had for Suttle and cash

bigjf
07-14-08, 11:34 PM
Doesn't seem like a bad contract.

Which is why, among other reasons, the Astros won't trade him.

NYYDragoon
07-14-08, 11:35 PM
Is there a secret stash of NYYFans crack cocaine that I don't know about?Josh Hamilton blinded us.

I don't think there's any chance at landing Berkman.

False1
07-15-08, 12:55 AM
He's having a freaky good year. What's up with the sudden SB's, too?

Anyway - doubtful the 'Stros trade him. This is a team that seems to be loyal to its players (e.g. Biggio) and he is a stud with a reasonable deal to boot.

That said, he is 32 and the 'Stros need to rebuild. Hmmmm... It would take a massive package though, probably more than a single player is worth.

ThePinStripes
07-15-08, 02:51 AM
He's having a freaky good year. What's up with the sudden SB's, too?

Anyway - doubtful the 'Stros trade him. This is a team that seems to be loyal to its players (e.g. Biggio) and he is a stud with a reasonable deal to boot.

That said, he is 32 and the 'Stros need to rebuild. Hmmmm... It would take a massive package though, probably more than a single player is worth.

We need to not look at anyone over 30, with extremely rare exception. Learn from your mistakes. Players sharply decline both in performance and health after ~32. Statistically (PEDs aside), players are plateauing and then downhill from about 27 or 28. There are some freaks (Mo, Posada, etc) but they are the very rare exception to the rule.

We don't need to catch the tail end of anything. The idea is buy something LOW, that will improve. Buying someone that has nowhere to go but down while they they are at or near their peak is a poor choice we make too frequently. We've been burned so bad with aging free agent veterans that we're scared to pick up a 27 year old Cy Young winner.

surge511
07-15-08, 03:26 PM
I give us almost 0 chance of landing Berkman.

Toaderly
07-15-08, 05:21 PM
Is there a secret stash of NYYFans crack cocaine that I don't know about?


You need to have at least 5,000 posts before you find out where its located.

THEBOSS84
07-15-08, 05:24 PM
I would love to land Lance.

KeithF40
07-16-08, 07:34 AM
What site did u get the contract info from. Ive been there before but I want to bookmark it, its a great site.

webassign
07-16-08, 08:35 AM
What site did u get the contract info from. Ive been there before but I want to bookmark it, its a great site.
http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/

bigjf
07-16-08, 10:09 PM
That said, he is 32 and the 'Stros need to rebuild. Hmmmm... It would take a massive package though, probably more than a single player is worth.

They traded for Tejada this off-season. They are not in rebuilding mode. I'm not aware of what their farm system is like right now, but they've underperformed this year. They've got some young talent in Pence, Towles, Wandy Rodriguez, etc., but the Cubs and Brewers are keeping them towards the bottom (not to mention the Cardinals are overachieving once again).

Maybe they would trade Oswalt, but they would do well to be buyers in the off-season, I think. I'd target Ben Sheets if I were them and depend on Michael Bourn relearning how to hit because he has terrific speed.

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