View Full Version : Rumored Oswalt for Cano/Kennedy Trade?
Mattinglyrules
06-26-08, 10:16 PM
yesnetwork.com's Dugout Central quotes a WFAN report of a rumored Roy Oswalt for Robinson Cano and Ian Kennedy. Also provides pros and cons from many of the Yes Network writers. Discuss....
Mattinglyrules
06-26-08, 10:18 PM
http://web.yesnetwork.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080626&content_id=1447074&oid=36019&vkey=4
teknetic
06-26-08, 10:19 PM
Tune in next week to find out what struggling NL pitcher, Robinson Cano will be traded for!
themgmt
06-26-08, 10:22 PM
The way Oswalt is pitching, Cano + anyone would be a fleecing
Mattinglyrules
06-26-08, 10:24 PM
Don't you think that's what the Houston fans will be saying about Cano and Kennedy? BTW, what would the Yanks do about 2nd base???
themgmt
06-26-08, 10:33 PM
Don't you think that's what the Houston fans will be saying about Cano and Kennedy? BTW, what would the Yanks do about 2nd base???
Maybe last year or any year before that. You can't ask for the sky with a player who has been getting hammered for 3 months. 3 of his last 4 starts have been pretty good and I doubt he's really lost anything though. Although from the other side, Cano is having an awful year and if you're going on current market value it would probably be an even deal. Cano is clearly a .310 25HR second baseman though.. that's rare.
just-blaze
06-26-08, 10:34 PM
Cook had the best assessment of the nothappening trade from all sides in the article.
sweet_lou_14
06-26-08, 11:03 PM
I don't like the idea.
fellows
06-26-08, 11:41 PM
The Yankees can't trade Cano. He is the only young quality position player they have. Selling low is a bad idea as well. What would the Astros do with Matsui who they just signed anyway?
A NL pitcher who will probably get killed in the AL...no thanks
JeterRodriguezSheff
06-26-08, 11:48 PM
I would consider it but I doubt the Astros would. An Ace is much harder to find than a second baseman and Kennedy's upside is a third starter. Oswalt Wang Joba Hughes and then the possibility of signing a CC or Sheets via FA is orgasmic.
That being said it is a pipe dream. The Astros would want more.
Masta Z
06-26-08, 11:48 PM
trading cano would be ....... such an upset
would feel to me like a soriano pt 2
JeterRodriguezSheff
06-26-08, 11:50 PM
trading cano would be ....... such an upset
would feel to me like a soriano pt 2
We raped in that deal. Trading developed talent isnt always a bad thing.
YanksFan1992
06-26-08, 11:56 PM
We raped in that deal. Trading developed talent isnt always a bad thing.
It is when your trading away a guy like Soriano. :(
I love that we got A-Rod, but I just wish it had happened some other way.
fellows
06-26-08, 11:57 PM
I would consider it but I doubt the Astros would. An Ace is much harder to find than a second baseman and Kennedy's upside is a third starter. Oswalt Wang Joba Hughes and then the possibility of signing a CC or Sheets via FA is orgasmic.
That being said it is a pipe dream. The Astros would want more.
Yeah, and the lineup could get ancient overnight. Oswalt isn't an ace this year, and is on the wrong side of 30.
Masta Z
06-26-08, 11:59 PM
We raped in that deal. Trading developed talent isnt always a bad thing.soriano was a godsend to us:(
Please, please let this stay a rumour. Plus didn’t Oswalt once say he wouldn’t play for the Yankees if you payed him a billion dollars? Forget him, I’m not giving up Cano for him.
just-blaze
06-27-08, 12:17 AM
I would consider it but I doubt the Astros would. An Ace is much harder to find than a second baseman and Kennedy's upside is a third starter. Oswalt Wang Joba Hughes and then the possibility of signing a CC or Sheets via FA is orgasmic.
That being said it is a pipe dream. The Astros would want more.
Its hard to find a second baseman of Cano's ability........harder than finding an
"Ace"
hockeypuck2008
06-27-08, 01:00 AM
Its hard to find a second baseman of Cano's ability........harder than finding an
"Ace"
true but that doesn't mean anything. Not a lot is asked from second baseman.
sugmasterflex
06-27-08, 05:26 AM
This would be a horrible trade for the Yanks. I can't see Cashman taking this trade seriously.
NYDCYankee
06-27-08, 06:17 AM
I might offer that package for Rich Harden.
I might offer that package for Rich Harden.
Cano is probably not on Beane's radar. Mark Ellis is doing a great job for him, and he has more important holes.
NYDCYankee
06-27-08, 06:39 AM
Cano is probably not on Beane's radar. Mark Ellis is doing a great job for him, and he has more important holes.
Cano could probably play anywhere on the diamond besides CF and C.
A position players useful life in the majors if far longer than a pitcher and in today's game a pitcher's career appears to be far more erratic. Up one year and down the next. The Yankees have had bad success in their pitching acquisitions. No thanks. This year isn't over yet and Cano should finish close to .300. He will be an offensive and defensive force for the Yankees for another 15 or so years. If Cashman is in control the deal will not even be discussed
Its hard to find a second baseman of Cano's ability........harder than finding an
"Ace"
I don't know if I agree with this. In the last 8 years we found two all-star second basemen (Soriano and Cano) and NO Ace's.
CommerceComet
06-27-08, 08:23 AM
I don't know if I agree with this. In the last 8 years we found two all-star second basemen (Soriano and Cano) and NO Ace's.Although Chamberlain and Hughes might change that.
Bleacher_Creature
06-27-08, 08:27 AM
It's only a rumor. It's been said that Oswalt does not want to pitch in NY. Maybe the Yankees want to light a fire under Cano's ass and let him know that if he doesn't perform, he's getting traded.
JavyVazquezIsSick
06-27-08, 08:28 AM
I might offer that package for Rich Harden.
Your crazy. Harden has pitched a COMBINED 140 innings in the last 3 years.
The only pitcher I'd trade Cano for is Sabathia.
THEBOSS84
06-27-08, 08:37 AM
The only pitcher I'd trade Cano for is Sabathia.
I hope you mean assuming a contract extension.
jeterlove
06-27-08, 08:45 AM
Oswalt has an 88 ERA+ in the NL
Yea he would flourish in NY :uhh:
THEBOSS84
06-27-08, 08:46 AM
Oswalt has an 88 ERA+ in the NL
Yea he would flourish in NY :uhh:
You forgot one word - in the NL CENTRAL.
I want no part of this man.
primetime714
06-27-08, 09:41 AM
We can't really trade Cano. Our offense is too old as it is and our minor league system is focused on pitching.
On top of that we're forgetting that we have absolutely no one else to play 2B. Who is our starting 2B if we trade Cano? Betemit? Gonzalez? No thanks to either.
Also trading Cano when his value is at its lowest is an awful idea. If you want to trade him hold until his value goes up to where it was at the beginning of the year and get a top flight young player for him. However at that point we'll probably be saying he is untouchable again.
YESSIR!
06-27-08, 10:23 AM
It's only a rumor. It's been said that Oswalt does not want to pitch in NY. Maybe the Yankees want to light a fire under Cano's ass and let him know that if he doesn't perform, he's getting traded.
This is not true. Oswalt has said that he does want to pitch in New York, specifically because they are always a contender, and he wants to contend.
I like Oswalt, and I was stumping for a trade for him a few weeks back. I think he would be very affective in this rotation, and I don't buy into any of the "NL to AL" hype.
However, trading Cano for him would not be smart. I think we could get him for a a heavier "quantity" side package, rather than a huge "quality" side one.
Cano for Sabathia would be the only deal I'd consider Robbie for, and that would be tough. An extension would have to be a must.
I hope you mean assuming a contract extension.
Yeah, and also not giving up any major prospects along with him.
flymick24
06-27-08, 11:56 AM
he's been steadily declining for a while now... no thanks
BillBuckner
06-27-08, 12:17 PM
This idea makes me absolutely sick to my stomach. I really hope it's nothing more than a stupid rumor.
This is not true. Oswalt has said that he does want to pitch in New York, specifically because they are always a contender, and he wants to contend.
I like Oswalt, and I was stumping for a trade for him a few weeks back. I think he would be very affective in this rotation, and I don't buy into any of the "NL to AL" hype.
However, trading Cano for him would not be smart. I think we could get him for a a heavier "quantity" side package, rather than a huge "quality" side one.
Cano for Sabathia would be the only deal I'd consider Robbie for, and that would be tough. An extension would have to be a must.
The NL to AL thing seems to not work for the yankees in recent history (Vazquez, Brown, Johnson) although 2 of those guys had other issues. Id love to have Oswalt even with his numbers being terrible this year I just wouldnt trade Cano for him.
fellows
06-27-08, 12:27 PM
Extension or not you can't trade Cano for Sabathia. Cano's career is more important than getting Sabathia a couple of months early. You trade Cano and 32 year old Arod is the youngest quality player in the lineup. Scary.
indianyanksfan
06-27-08, 05:03 PM
no trading youth for older guys.
trade the older guys for youth.q
the_coach
06-27-08, 09:58 PM
jeez no...
Yankees Empire
06-27-08, 10:14 PM
Roy Oswalt? The guy with the 1.40 WHIP?
The same Roy Oswalt who's coughed up 18 HRs in 101 2/3 IP?
Yeah, no thanks.
JeterRodriguezSheff
06-27-08, 10:16 PM
You forgot one word - in the NL CENTRAL.
I want no part of this man.
ERA+ acounts for league and division no? Its an outlier year thus far nad he has pitched much better recently.
BroadwayBomber55
06-27-08, 10:16 PM
Please, the Astros need Roy Oswalt more than the Yankees.
Oswalt is their only ace and I have no clue on what the Astros are doing to build around him. My goodness.
Pass.
jimmykey2
06-27-08, 10:18 PM
The only players the Yankees would trade Cano for (Sizemore, Granderson, etc.) are not being traded.
A PLAYER
06-27-08, 10:30 PM
The only pitcher I'd trade Cano for is Sabathia.
Why would we want to burden ourselves with a HUGE contract for Sabathia when he's not even doing that well this year. He has a losing record and his ERA is somewhere around 4.50. WOW! Isn't that special. Plus, I can't stand players who wear their hats crooked thinking they're cool. They look stupid.
BennyTheJetRodriguez
06-27-08, 10:38 PM
Why would we want to burden ourselves with a HUGE contract for Sabathia when he's not even doing that well this year. He has a losing record and his ERA is somewhere around 4.50. WOW! Isn't that special. Plus, I can't stand players who wear their hats crooked thinking they're cool. They look stupid.
CC has been dominant in May and June and has a 3.78 era total. He had 1 bad month. It happens.
YanksFan1992
06-27-08, 10:46 PM
Why would we want to burden ourselves with a HUGE contract for Sabathia when he's not even doing that well this year. He has a losing record and his ERA is somewhere around 4.50. WOW! Isn't that special. Plus, I can't stand players who wear their hats crooked thinking they're cool. They look stupid.
He's been incredible the last two months.
And we shouldn't trade for him because he wears his hat sideways? I don't even know what to say...:roflmao:
Yankees47
06-28-08, 12:20 AM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Cano AND Kennedy for Oswalt?????!!!!! HAHAHAHAHA i wouldnt trade a bag of dog ................ for Roy Oswalt, his best years are behind him, spent his life in the weak NL and his ERA is 5. Im not the biggest fan of Cano and Kennedy But wow No chance, If Ed Wade approached Cashman on this maybe he would have some brain damage from Chacon tossing him around
Why would we want to burden ourselves with a HUGE contract for Sabathia when he's not even doing that well this year. He has a losing record and his ERA is somewhere around 4.50. WOW! Isn't that special. Plus, I can't stand players who wear their hats crooked thinking they're cool. They look stupid.
Joba wears his hat like that too. Just not as exaggerated, I think its cool.
Yankees13
06-28-08, 01:15 PM
He's been incredible the last two months.
And we shouldn't trade for him because he wears his hat sideways? I don't even know what to say...:roflmao:
Might as well get rid of Joba too, he wears his hat funny.
Zimmers' Helmet
06-28-08, 01:44 PM
There is no way that the Yankees are going to trade Cano and Kennedy for Oswalt. They weren't willing to trade Cano for Santana for crying out loud.
This is simply the result of some bored writers trying to get a reaction.
Not happening.
teknetic
06-28-08, 02:09 PM
Why would we want to burden ourselves with a HUGE contract for Sabathia when he's not even doing that well this year. He has a losing record and his ERA is somewhere around 4.50. WOW! Isn't that special. Plus, I can't stand players who wear their hats crooked thinking they're cool. They look stupid.
-Losing record
-Determining the value of a player based on ERA
-Crooked Hat
Good assessments.
montrealer
06-28-08, 02:17 PM
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THanks..............i needed a good cry........
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